Buying From Our Premiership Rivals 2007: Sunderland
By James Collins On Thu 23 Aug 2007 |
Mackems. Can’t live with them, can’t live without them. But in a playing perspective, could it be worthwhile to make a Mackem player live even closer? Furthermore, would such a player really be welcome at Newcastle United?
There have been a few players who have crossed the divide from Geordie to Mackem. Lee Clark made the move ten years ago, but seemed to play the role of an infiltrating saboteur, and was promptly sold by those Sad Mackem Bastards of which his t-shirt proclaimed. Robbie Elliott made a similar move last summer, but the move clearly had a damaging effect, causing the two-time Geordie to fall down the divisions via Leeds United. Perhaps Michael Chopra learned from these examples, by wisely rejecting a move to Wearside in favour of football league mainstays Cardiff City. Or perhaps not.
Clearly Chopra made the right career move in leaving Newcastle. Had he still been here today, he’d be behind Michael Owen, Obafemi Martins, Mark Viduka, Shola Ameobi, Alan Smith, Andy Carroll and Albert Luque in the pecking order. Since leaving however, he has shown great character in proving that he can at the very least be an excellent goalscorer in the Championship. In fact, his goal return persuaded Roy Keane to pay ten times the fee Newcastle sold Chopra for. Such a move was a risk for player, club and manager, but it appears to have been worked out thus far. Whenever Geordies see Chopra at the Stadium of Light, they will remember his legendary first touch equaliser in our 1-4 derby victory, but Chopra may yet see his time at Sunderland as being the pinnacle of his career.
Crossing the divide may then work it would seem, although perhaps travelling via Cardiff is the best possible route. Less Sunderland players have gone on to play for Newcastle, although it is often forgotten that one of the best Newcastle players of the past twenty years, Mr. Shay Given, is an ex-Mackem. As the Geordies were perfectly happy to accept Given, it is clear that it is possible for a player to cross the divide if they are good enough.
But are there any players good enough to play for Newcastle? No disrespect to Chopra, but if he was to return to St. James’ Park today, he’d still find himself way down the pecking order. Given that he is the best striker Sunderland have on offer, we shouldn’t be looking at Sunderland strikers.
In midfield, Carlos Edwards and Ross Wallace are effective players that will score a very decent return of points at a low price for a Fantasy Football team. However, once more, they struggle to make the Newcastle bench.
In defence, Paul McShane looks excellent. Strong, composed and uncompromising, the ex-Baggie could be one of those underrated gems often found at smaller Premier League clubs. However as a recent Mackem signing, there would be almost no chance of him signing for Newcastle this year.
In fact, Roy Keane, a perfect match for Sunderland given his rivalry with Shearer, has signed players to create a side that has a fighting chance of surviving this season, showing no loyalty to the previous batch of players who wouldn’t have had the quality to keep the Mackems from going straight back down. Thus the majority of talented Mackems are in the same unsignable group as Paul McShane.
Thus, it must be recommended that Newcastle don’t sign any Mackems before August 31st. Quinn and Keane are trying to build a squad to stay up, and the early signs indicate that they have a good chance of success. Such players cannot help a team hoping to challenge for Europe. The only Mackems coming to st. James’ Park will be coming as part of the opposition team.
Will the Mackems survive? Would you welcome a Mackem at St. James’ Park? Have your say.

Ourselves and Sunderland are both aiming for different things this season. Survival and Europe, respectively.
So you’re aiming for survival and Sunderland for Europe, then?
Ug ug!
Patronising git.
Sent in on: August 28th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
We are all envious of Sunderland, well perhaps I am because we lack so much flair and creativity. I would take Edwards, Gordon, Whithead, Halford, McShane, Etuhu looks half decent
Look we have no creativity- midfield of Smith, Butt and Geremi, striking options in Owen, Martins and Viduka. Except from Martins we are very slow as well. Sunderland have Edwards, Richardson, Etuhu, Hysen, Wallace and Chopra and Halford all have pace. Owen has lost his pace- no one can argue with that
I think we are really over hyping ourselves and Sunderland could well become the best team in the North East.
P.S- Another £9.99 a month wasted just for tomorrow
Sent in on: August 25th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
sunderland arent a threat to nufc,chopra will bag 15goals max this year but who else do they have up front, etuhu looks half decent as does mcshane and the goalie but others will struggle to make an impact. mackems will struggle this year and although RK wont say it he’ll be delighted to just survive
Sent in on: August 24th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Well I think ye’re kidding yereselves if ye think that Sunderland are just aiming to survive, this is Roy Keane we’re talking about. He was one of the only people who thought that we could win the WC in 2002, and who knows maybe if he’d been there we might of.
I doubt Sunderland will go down. I think they’ll finish alot higher then people think. Keane’s brought his determination and such with him to Sunderland and you can see it in nearly every match they’ve played, this fightning spirit they have, they never give up, like how many time have they scored winners or equalisers in the last mins of the game. It’s not just a coincidence that it keeps happening and if you’re not willing to fight for that extra inch every time to the last whistle, he wont play you, he has no time for half hearted players or premadonnas, just players that always give 110%. Ye mightn’t think that there’s many great players in Sunderland but Keane just doing buy anyone. He buys them because he see’s something in them, because he think they’re good and he’s hard to impress. Now he’s said there’s something special about McShane, he said that McShane is the type of players he wanted on Wearside..An ideal professional.
Paul McShane is a player for the future, he’s going to have a massive career in front of him if he keeps going the way he is. He’s been amazing for both Sunderland and Ireland. They say he’s too small to make an impact, funny how they said that about Keane. McShane is a leader and is doing outstanding especially considering he’s so young. He’s deffinatley a player to watch.
Sent in on: August 24th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
mcshane? better than who? chopra better than martins? hmmm think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself? i think so. dont get me wrong i hope they stay up but i dont think that they will set anything on fire, just middlehopers, thats all. i believe newcastle wont do a huge deal better though this year, we have got to give BS time to get his team and let it gel. look at what he did at bolton, he will do that at newcastle but on much a bigger scale. cant wait april 19….
Sent in on: August 24th, 2007 at 11:16 am
PS - Sorry. I was being harsh in my Sunderlander criticism then. I’d like to stress I don’t think *all* Makems are socially maladjusted.
I know one and he’s quite a bright guy, and a good fella to boot!
Sent in on: August 24th, 2007 at 10:38 am
I will try and sound as respectful to our rivals as I can:
Ourselves and Sunderland are both aiming for different things this season. Survival and Europe, respectively.
Royston appears to have built a squad that can battle its way to survival, and I think they will stay up.
Basically, Sunderland’s squad is built for a different purpose to ours therefore won’t improve what we have and any acquisitions from them will only serve to add numbers.
Therefore my opinion matches the articles conclusion and is a bit pointless.
Sunderland will actually prove a challenge in the derby match’s this year and sadly won’t be the hilarious push overs of years gone by. At least Boro will fill that role this season, which is a mild consolation.
I look forward to the few Sunderland fans that can use a computer coming on this site and ignoring sensible debate for their usual expression of small minded jealousy and hatred - “Me Sunderland. Me see Geordie. Me hate Geordie. Ug! Ug! Not listen Geordie! Make threaten Geordie! Me big man! Ug!”. I believe that’s their usual standard of intellectual capacity?
I was doing so well until the last paragraph! Damn! Touch paper lit!
Sent in on: August 24th, 2007 at 9:34 am
Mmmm, hold on a minute guys, RK quite righly hasnt been seen to be standing by the players who got them up, and rightly so, Championship players is all they were.
For the first time in years Sunderland now have an uncompromising manager and other teams need to be wary of this, Liverpool may well feel the backlash.
Mcshane looks the type player newcastle have needed for years, at a snip of the price.
Dont underestimate Carlos Edwards, he can be such a match changing player, dark horse.
Dickson Etuhu is a real enigma, along the lines of Patrick Viera, a real unknown quantity but the signs are he could be pivotol in Sunderlands campaign, Michael Chopra never got the chance he deserved, whether it was under Robson, Souness or Roeder, there’s more to the lad than he’s given credit for.
Those four are as good as or better than some at Newcastle at present, Im not being biased just cos’ Im a mackem, I think your team is as strong as it has been for many a year and I think you’ll do well(sadly).
April 19th could be very interesting!!!!
FTM
Sent in on: August 24th, 2007 at 8:34 am
I’m confused, I was expecting several pages of the continuous repetition of the letters ‘h’ and ‘a’ followed by a space.
Sent in on: August 24th, 2007 at 1:37 am
The resounding answer is that no current players are fit for Newcastle from your blurb (Shay was on-loan from Blackburn and never a true Mackem if I remember right). Could we not have had this post just prior to the Mackem game just to needle them? I’d rather buy their best player in the Jan window and stick him in the reserves and hope its enough to take them down. That and a little visit by Shearer to RK residence. By the way Shearer was drinking with me whichever night it happens.
Sent in on: August 24th, 2007 at 1:33 am