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« Reply #1700 on: August 04, 2006, 12:10:31 AM »
Rachel, I gather, is just some nutter trying to make a name for herself by making cringeworthy videos about Lost being real, is she not?
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« Reply #1701 on: August 04, 2006, 12:13:51 AM »
it has to relate to the show officially somehow though because of the whole numbers explanation thing. Andy please come and tell us what it is, who she is and make more sense of that long thing you pasted.
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« Reply #1702 on: August 04, 2006, 12:21:33 AM »
too late to start the 'experiance'?
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« Reply #1703 on: August 04, 2006, 12:22:27 AM »
I guessed she was nobody, but that some of the sites are basically just a collection of all the facts picked up from the show.  I try not to read them though, they just throw me off track. 

I'm more than confident she's not related to the sites, is she?  Or she supposed to be Persephone!?  FUCKSAKE!  You've got me all confused now.
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« Reply #1704 on: August 04, 2006, 07:18:32 AM »
Quote from: BlufPurdi on August 04, 2006, 12:22:27 AM
I'm more than confident she's not related to the sites, is she?  Or she supposed to be Persephone!?  FUCKSAKE!  You've got me all confused now.

Not that I'm following it, but I'm under the impression that woman is this Rachael/Persiphone person... Same one who was shouting at some expo, yes?
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« Reply #1705 on: August 04, 2006, 10:22:37 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Blake
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« Reply #1706 on: August 04, 2006, 10:45:13 AM »
thought so, fictional character
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« Reply #1707 on: August 04, 2006, 10:47:27 AM »
ANNNNNNNNDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYY can you help please  Laughing
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« Reply #1708 on: August 04, 2006, 12:27:11 PM »
I haven't really followed the experience, but yeah Rachel Blake is a fictional character who leads the gamer (probably the wrong word there) through the experience, providing clues etc. The experience itself is written by Carlton Cuse, and is basically intended to fill-in the gaps in the story that the show could probably never realistically get to. The basic premise of it is that they give you a website URL (provided on TV ads, other websites etc) and you have to navigate your way into and through the site to gather information.

It's probably too late to join in now, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Experience has all the info you need.
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« Reply #1709 on: August 04, 2006, 12:33:35 PM »
Do you know if it's revealed anything worthwhile about the show yet?
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« Reply #1710 on: August 04, 2006, 12:36:54 PM »
Just stuff about the hanso foundation really; most of which is in that post on the previous page, or in the post on the first page of the thread.

They won't use it to reveal anything earth-shattering, just gap-filling stuff.
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« Reply #1711 on: August 04, 2006, 12:39:40 PM »
Meaning of the Numbers in Lost
June 09, 2006

The Valenzetti Equation is a fictional book by Gary Troup is a book that speaks of a mathematical equation that can predict the apocalypse, and the end of the world. One theory that I came across about the numbers that continue to show up in Lost is that they are the result of the Valenzetti Equation equalling 4 8 15 16 23 42.
The theory looks at the numbers in a different way then just a string of numbers adding up to 108 like some other theories people are using to try and figure out their meaning. This one uses the set of numbers as a date and time which if Valenzetti's equation is correct would be the end of the world.

The date would be April 8, 2015 at 16:23:42, or 4/8/2015 at 4:23 and 42 seconds. This thoery can be backed up with a little bit of information from the show such as when the blast doors came down on Locke's leg he saw a map, which included a phrase "low relevence to Valenzetti related research activity”.

Also, the man the Hurley got the numbers from in the insitution. Some how that man knew the numbers, and possibly knew what they meant which is why he went insane. Knowing how the world was going to end could lead a man to insanity.

The numbers are obviously a sign of bad luck, as seen with all that has been happening to people around Hurley after he used them in the lottery and won. There is certainly evil about the numbers, and what could be much worse than the world coming to an end?
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« Reply #1712 on: August 04, 2006, 12:44:16 PM »
Found this on a forum, pretty interesting read:

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I don't know for 100% is this is a major spoiler or not. But it looks pretty convincing to me.

There is a book (theory) called "Genetic Mirror Theory and other Natuarlly Occuring Phenomenon," by Marsille Roussau. Someone posted online this:

I recently found an interesting natuarlly occuring thoery found in our world that states everyone has a mirror image somewhere in the world. You may have heard of this. Its called Roussau's genetic mirror theory, and I must say it is very interesting. Roussau's genetic mirror theory says that everyone in the world has an exact twin somewhere, however according to the theory you never encounter this person, by laws of probablitly and other natuaral occuring phemnomen. Its the theory that was devised by a French Mathematician named Marseille Roussau in the year 1988. He used a series of numbers to explain his theory. Now I know you're not going to believe this but here goes.

4 8 15 16 23 42

Let me explain...

The 4 stands for 4 degrees of separation (not 6 or 7 as commonly stated.) Roussau believed that everyone in the world was connected by four different people. So in theory could meet yourself by using four different people connected to you. Example: Your brother's, boss's, neighbor nephew, knows your mirror. Hard to believe, I know but keep reading.

The 8 stands for the eight continent, or the only place in the world where you could meet your mirror. He calculated it to be somewhere in the south pacific. Now we know its not actually as large as the other contintents but its used figurtively because everyone in all 7 continents could meet there mirror on the 8th universal continent.

The 15 stands for the chances of you acually meeting yourself on this place, as in 15 out of 4,815,162,342. Look at the second set "815." Ring any bells? Interesting huh?

The 16 stands for the maximum amount of people that could encounter thier twin all at the same time. Think about the number of main characters.

The 23 is the number of years apart your twin and yourself are. You are not the same age as your twin. By chance and probablity it takes 23 years exactly for the same genes that made you to be connected again to form another you.

The 42 stands for the maximimum number of years your twin and yourself can be alive at the same time. However people do die at diffferent times so thats why everyone isn't dead at 75. For example my twin was born on Sept. 6 2003 b/c i was born on Spet. 6 1980. Now that doesn't mean i will die in the year 2045, I could, but its not set in stone. My twin could die when he is 16, and then the whole thing starts over again.

This is all very complicated and I don't know how well I explained it but the connections with the show are too coinidental to not be real.

Roussau and his team (wife, included) went to the 8th continent. You can figure out how they died and why by the numbers and equations. It also fits with every character. You can predict when they will die. There are others on the island who are twins of the survivors, but have been there 23 years longer.

There is a book Roussau wrote 16 years ago in 1988 when he came up with the theory. Thats where I got it from.
Now, try this & you'll see more of this theory play out:

oceanicflight815.com

click barcode.
type in "theislandiswaiting"

Sheet of script ends with Jack being tackled to the ground by... someone who looks EXACLTY like him. The theory explains that. There is a guy on the boat who looked a lot like Sawyer - maybe his "twin"? The French woman's name is the same as the guy with the GMT theory.

Jack met Desmond at the stadium, and then on the island. Perhaps he met both of Desmond somehow? Locke was spotted in the hospital.

And if you then read about John Desmond Bernal:

In 1929, Dr. John Desmond Bernal conceived of the Bernal sphere.
A NASA Summer Study in 1975 investigated three primary designs, dubbed Island One, Island Two, and Island Three. All three are based on the premise of a self-sustaining, artificial ecology within the station, called an arcology.
Island One was the Bernal sphere, an enclosed design (good for protecting against radiation), excepting the poles, which would be left open to allow mirrors to redirect sunlight from the outside to the interior of the colony. Island Two was the Stanford torus, a mile-wide torus spinning to produce artificial gravity on the inner side of the ring. The center of the torus could then serve as a convenient docking station for spacecraft approaching via the poles. Island Three was the O'Neill cylinder, a spinning tube designed to hold 10,000 people. This design is probably the most popular space colony portrayed in sci-fi.
More about Desmond in this thread: https://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=14177

And the map that Said found at Roussau's camp said something about 3 islands.

If this french guy Marseille Roussau wrote this in year 1988. Its 16 years from 2004, right?

Well we can just say both Roussau and Desmond have a big meaning to everything on the island if this is true.
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« Reply #1713 on: August 04, 2006, 12:54:33 PM »
I have no idea what the island is all about but at least we know it is not purgatory anymore because of the outside influence at the end of the second series.

I like this idea that time runs faster on the island than in real life. After all if Desmond had been on the island for years, why would his wife still be looking for him? Surely she would have given up hope.
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« Reply #1714 on: August 04, 2006, 12:57:34 PM »
does anyone have any idea about this 'incident' the DHARMA bloke is on about?
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« Reply #1715 on: August 04, 2006, 12:59:23 PM »
I believe this theory here: https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,21426.msg479534.html#msg479534

The last few paragraphs cover the incident etc.
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« Reply #1716 on: August 04, 2006, 01:16:56 PM »
what happened to Kelvin's body?
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« Reply #1717 on: August 04, 2006, 01:17:46 PM »
Good question. We've been back to his place of death a few times and it hasn't been there.

Maybe he wasn't actually dead?
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« Reply #1718 on: August 04, 2006, 01:23:21 PM »
Quote from: Andy on August 04, 2006, 01:17:46 PM
Good question. We've been back to his place of death a few times and it hasn't been there.

Maybe he wasn't actually dead?

Possibly. Maybe he became an other like Radzinski is supposed to have done. They're different actors but Kelvin and Tom actually look quite alike (it was pointed out to me on another forum)
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« Reply #1719 on: August 04, 2006, 01:35:06 PM »
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Kelvin Inman name speculation

Damon Lindelof, LOST co-creator, has been quoted saying, "Every single name on the show has purpose and meaning." This bit of info could let a theorist go to town with any of the characters, but my focus today is Kelvin Joe Inman.

This came to me when watching the morning news where they discussed an alleged murderer with the last name of Inman. It was the way they said his name.

The producers stomped on speculation that the two characters played by Clancy Brown, Sayid's personal Gulf War torture tutor Joe Inman and Desmond's hatch partner Kelvin, were different people, possibly twins. They confirmed that they were the same man, Kelvin Joseph Inman, and that they did not want to spoil the reveal by using the name Kelvin when his character first appeared.

His first name, Kelvin, may be a reference to Lord Kelvin, a Scottish mathematician and physicist. What I find most interesting about him, though it may not have anything to do with LOST, is his concept of the Heat Death of the Universe, concerning his interpretation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. More important to our story, however, would be his invention of the adjustable compass, as he was an enthusiastic yachtsman.

More interestingly, however, is his last name. I believe that is the key. He is an "in man," in on whatever is really going on in the Swan hatch. He admitted he'd been a CIA spook for ten years. He taught Sayid the fine art of torture. The yellow hazard suit he wore every time he went outside the hatch was an obvious ruse, as it had a rip in it that he let Desmond see. I believe he wanted Desmond to follow him. Why? I'm not sure about that. I'm sure he didn't intend to die. He may have known he'd baited Desmond enough that he was certain he'd follow, but he couldn't have known how angry Desmond would get to bash his head against that rock. I've seen people suggest that we didn't really see his blood on the rocks, but that he had fake blood capsules... But how? That requires a little too much foresight.

Could Kelvin Inman still be alive, even if the blood was really his? Could he have survived such a traumatic head wound? Some people speculate he may still be alive, that the Others saved him. We never did see his body after Desmond left him for dead. This could be further support for him being an "in man."

But this just leads to more questions. Why did he need to con Desmond? Could he have been "in" on it but still left in the dark about what would actually happen if the button wasn't pushed? If the fail-safe key was turned? Was his late partner Radzinski "in" on it, too?
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