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« Reply #1640 on: July 24, 2006, 12:49:55 AM »
A decent theory on Henry Gale/Radzinski, quite similar to what I posted after the finale:

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So a few of us have been rolling around in a few different threads with the idea that Fenry is actually Radzinski - I figured we needed a thread that has all the evidence in one spot...stay with me here

Kelvin told Desmond that his old hatch partner, Radzinksi, "had a photographic memory" so he was able to draw the blast door map. He also said he was the one who figured out how to fake a lockdown to bring down/up the blast doors. We know Radzinksi edited the orientation film to exclude the piece about using the computer to communicate with others. We know that Kelvin had it in him to mislead Desmond because he was planning on sailing away to leave Desmond in the hatch by himself. Now for the Fenry connection.

Fenry was knocked unconscious when he was dragged to the Swan hatch. Somehow he was able to draw a map to a balloon that was a 2 day trek across the island, including landmarks along the way - all without knowing where he was. This says two things: He knew what the swan hatch was (if he was Radzinksi that obviously make sense) and that he has a great memory (which fits Kelvin's description of a photographic memory). Fenry was locked in a room where he had no way of knowing what hatch he was in - so even if he knew the location of the swan because he's an Other, he wouldn't know what hatch he was in. But he DID know what hatch he was in because he's Radzinski.

In Lockedown, Fenry crawled through the vents, hit the button, crawled back, and helped out Locke. Radzinksi knew how to control the blast doors and reveal the blast door map. Coincidence that when Fenry is out of sight in the button pushing room - the map illuminates AND the blast doors raise up? Sure it could be coincidence, but if Fenry is Radzinski, he was showing Locke the map HE drew and would know how to raise the blast doors. Fenry also shows no problem remembering the numbers when Locke tells him, but when the lostaways first have to push it, they needed to write them down a piece of paper attached to the monitor...Locke was even about to enter them incorrectly for his first time until Jack showed up. Fenry knew them because he had done it a million times before. Although being an other he’s probably been exposed to those numbers before – so he knew the numbers already, but was unaware they were used in the hatch…that definitely could be =/

Fenry getting caught in a net never felt right to me - I've always felt he was trying to get back to the swan hatch - HIS hatch - for some reason...he may (and most likely) have known the lostaways were there though.

Here's the part thats more of a stretch:

I think, as many others do, that the Others were all Dharma workers before they were "Others". Backtrack: The Swan orientation edited piece says that it's important they don’t communicate with the outside world so they can avoid another incident. To me this means that "communication" caused "the incident". I believe "the incident" was Radzinski (to make this more probable, it could have been any Dharma member) communicating by the computer to other members (in other hatches I assume) and they formed an island wide revolt - The birth of The Others. And Radzinksi joining/starting the Others would tie in how he became who we call Fenry. Radzinski was obviously against Dharma, and pro communication, which gives great motivation for editing the tape, and seeing as he would have been moving around the island AND would have been in communication with other hatches - explains how that edited piece landed in another hatch.

I think Kelvin lied to Desmond about Radzinksi blowing his brains out. If Kelvin told Desmond the truth - Des would become even more skeptical of what Kelvin was doing outside the hatch. Kelvin was planning to leave Desmond JUST like Radzinski did to Kelvin. Kelvin’s bitterness towards Radzinksi leaving and his distain for fearing an unpushed button explains why he refers to Radzinski's rebellious group as "The Hostiles"...Desmond later refers to them as well. We know Kelvin deceived Desmond about the boat, it would be no surprise if he lied about Radzinski.

I would not be surprised AT ALL if in a Fenry flashback we see him waking up and doing his daily duties inside the hatch - our hatch...Finding out he had worked in the hatch before the lostaways got there sounds like a great season opener and/or end to the first streak of episodes. The man we thought was actually on our turf for once was actually home again.
Maybe they'd show us a flashback of what Fenry really did when he was on the other side of the blast doors...a la-the first few episodes of season two repeating the same event from a different persons prespective?

Some of it's far fetched, but I'd say at least half of that is absolutely bang on.
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« Reply #1641 on: July 24, 2006, 01:13:49 AM »
rumour has it,it's a tele programme
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« Reply #1642 on: July 24, 2006, 01:22:05 AM »
You're not wrong...
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« Reply #1643 on: July 24, 2006, 11:41:32 AM »
Quote from: Andy on July 24, 2006, 12:49:55 AM
Some of it's far fetched, but I'd say at least half of that is absolutely bang on.

I think it's pretty much spot on. The Others have definately got something to do with the DHARMA thing and the fact that Desmond and the hatch people were told not to go outside.
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« Reply #1644 on: July 24, 2006, 07:43:43 PM »
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Lost fans will see the return of the real John Locke next season, according to series co-creator Damon Lindelof. Speaking at comic-con Lindelof teased "Terry O'Quinn's really been nagging us over his character recently, y'know... He keeps telling us how much he wants to have a knife in his hand again next season"... After a momentary pause, Lindelof almost brought the entire crowd to it's feet when he added "And who the hell are we to deny him!?"

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« Reply #1645 on: July 24, 2006, 07:46:38 PM »
Despite thinking the season 2 finale was fantastic, the scene of Locke in the hatch during the system failure didnt seem to fit him. He looked too wimpish cowering slightly as all hell broke loose saying "I was wrong!" I expected him to be a bit more lively in that scene.
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« Reply #1646 on: July 24, 2006, 07:59:18 PM »
I dunno. I guess he was just overwhelmed with shock because he didn't think anything was going to happen... Or because he was right all along, something like that anyway. I suppose the fact that he WAS right all along will be what leads to him getting back to his season one self, maybe he'll follow his beliefs even more vehemently now.

1 is RACING away in that pole btw. 2 needs some sympathy votes.
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« Reply #1647 on: July 26, 2006, 03:35:50 PM »
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Lost has found its new mystery man — and you're reading about it here first! Rodrigo Santoro, best known to American audiences as the hot dude Laura Linney crushed on in Love Actually, is joining the cast this fall. I know what you're thinking, "Rodrigo... Whatchoo Talkin' 'Bout Willis?" That was my initial reaction, too. Well, the 30-year-old actor may not be a household name here in the States, but there apparently is no bigger movie star in Brazil than him. Don't take my word for it though. Read on as Lost boys Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse proudly discuss their latest find.

I have to admit, I'm not all that familiar with Rodrigo's work.
Carlton: You haven't seen Carandiru or Behind the Sun or Brainstorm? You're a little behind the curve. (Laughs) Rodrigo has won, like, eight best actor awards, including the first ever best actor award for the Brazilian Academy of Arts and Film. He's a huge star in Brazil.
Damon: He keeps getting described to us as the Brazilian Tom Cruise.
Carlton: Although we like to refer to him as the Brazilian Russell Crowe. He's also the mystery man opposite Nicole Kidman in those Chanel commercials that Baz Luhrmann directed, and the surfer dude in Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle. He was the hunk in the beach scene with Demi Moore.
Damon: The ladies like it when he takes his shirt off — not to say he'll be competing with Sawyer in that category.

But the hunk thing must've been a big factor in his casting.
Carlton: Only so far as there's going to be a certain expectation for the character based on his looks.
Damon: On [Lost], what you see is never what you get. We also think he is an incredibly talented actor. He's a guy who's perfect for Lost because he's a face that the American audience is not familiar with, but he's been in the business long enough, you know, [that he's also] an awesome actor that makes some really interesting choices. And he's certainly not interested in being the hunk on the show, nor are we interested in writing that for him. Although I think when people start to see him and surmise what role he's going to play on the show that's the place they're going to go to. "More eye candy for Lost!"
Carlton: We don't really want to be at all specific about what we're doing with the character or what he's going to play. Part of the surprise and the enjoyment of watching the show is sort of getting a chance to meet a new character and see how his role is going to unfold in relation to the rest of the cast.

Brazilian actor eh? Could his character possibly be related to the snow station guys per chance?
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« Reply #1648 on: July 27, 2006, 08:57:07 PM »
Some info about 3x01:

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3x01 - A Tale of Two Cities (Written by JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof, Directed by Jack Bender)

Kate centric. flashbacks feature two new recurring characters. Amelia is a warm motherly type in her 60's and Karl is 20 yrs old and is handsome and sardonic.

Word on the street is that 3.02 is Locke-centric, and 3.03 is Jack-centric.
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« Reply #1649 on: July 27, 2006, 08:59:44 PM »
What street?
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« Reply #1650 on: July 27, 2006, 09:02:00 PM »
My street.
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« Reply #1651 on: July 27, 2006, 09:11:40 PM »
You reckon we'll see a Jack flashback without tears?

I'm guessing it'll be a tale from when he was just starting surgery under the guidance of Papa Shepherd.

Lockes flashback to show how he ended up disabled? I think he gets shot in the legs by those heavies. Although that might be too obvious.
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« Reply #1652 on: July 27, 2006, 09:21:26 PM »
The jackback will probably be about his time in Pucket; how he learned to play poker, and why he got his tatoos etc. I think Locke's will go into what happened after Helen left him. It might cover his wheelchair incident, but I have a feeling they'll leave that until his second flashback.
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« Reply #1653 on: July 27, 2006, 11:22:36 PM »
And btw if it DOES go Kate, Locke then Jack, it'll be yet another throwback to season one (which the writers have been banging on about all summer). Leaving aside the pilot, the flashbacks went in the same order then.
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« Reply #1654 on: July 27, 2006, 11:26:53 PM »
Take away her looks and Kate is my least favourite character. The early episodes in season 1 suggested she was going to be some sort of uber-villain yet her crimes were presented in a very sympathetic fashion.
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« Reply #1655 on: July 27, 2006, 11:31:45 PM »
Yeah, I kind of agree. In season one she was pretty determined to be a part of everything and keep her past a secret, and later on she was determined to get off the island on the raft.  In season two they removed her of any motivations, and dumbed her down to only playing a minor part in the story; the love triangle.

They need to use this episode to give the character some drive again.
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« Reply #1656 on: July 27, 2006, 11:39:04 PM »
... And she isn't the only character who needs servicing either. Charlie still has no motivations beyond drugs and Claire. Claire has no motivations beyond her baby. Sawyer's interaction has become limited to Kate, Jack and the odd cameo comedy appearence with Hurley. All Jack does nowadays is take the huff with John/Sawyer/Kate and strop around in tears. Sun and Jin hardly talk to anyone other than each other and maybe Kate every once in a while.... I could go on and on and on.

They need to put as much focus as possible into making the characters real again, the mythology can wait.
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« Reply #1657 on: July 27, 2006, 11:51:54 PM »
Does Mr Eko feature in season 3?
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« Reply #1658 on: July 27, 2006, 11:59:26 PM »
He's listed as a series regular still, so yeah.

Unless he dies of course.
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« Reply #1659 on: July 28, 2006, 12:08:47 AM »
Eko should've been one of the first flashbacks, unless they're saving it for the first episode after the break.
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