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Title: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: MrEko on September 24, 2005, 06:20:22 PM (https://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2940/lostggbd5sd.png) SEASON TWO EPISODE GUIDE SPOILER WARNING: Located below are minor storyline spoilers for EVERY SINGLE EPISODE of season two aired on ABC to date, and some for episodes which are YET to air on ABC to date. Whilst I've been careful not to detail major plot-points (aside from in the linked off-site transcripts), I'd still recommend care be taken if you wish to avoid spoilers altgoether. Thanks to tv.com and abc for some of the descriptions. Episode 2.01: Man of Science, Man of Faith : Episode Centric - Jack Aired: 21st September 05 :5star: Description: Following a stunning reveal prior to the opening credits; the second season starts where the survivors left off, with Jack, Locke, Kate and Hurley peering down the opened hatch, preparing to enter. What they are about to discover, will change EVERYTHING. Well, not really but it's PRETTY DAMN SCOTTISH that's for sure. And it's not shortbread, no. Meanwhile, whilst searching for Vincent Van Gough, Shannon stumbles upon a shockingly familiar face in the jungle. Nobody believes her, and when Charlie accuses her of being an attention seeking whore tensions begin to mount. Flashbacks reveal how doctor Jack "dickhead" Shepherd "fixed" his future wife Sarah, and introduce an intriguing character named Desmond into the mix. He and Jack share shortbread in a stadium whilst having a pivotal discussion about kilts. Episode Preview (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=257) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Man_of_Science_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=648) Episode 2.02: Adrift : Episode Centric - Michael Aired: 28th September 05 :2star: Description: With the abduction of Walt fresh on their minds, their raft destroyed, and Jin hunting fish in the sea somewhere, Michael and Sawyer fight for their lives in the middle of the ocean, and discover a deadly predator lurking in the sea beneath them. (Other than Jin). They call each other names for a while, before having a brutal waterfight using supersoaker4000 blaster guns. Michael, being a ghetto gangster, defeats his enemy with ease. On land, we learn more about Locke’s decent into the hatch after Kate goes missing inside; and a mysterious and pivotal DRAHMA school organisation is hinted at for the first time when Jack takes acting lessons in the pantry. Flashbacks reveal more of Michael's idiotic past, featuring boring lawyers, boring Susan and their EVEN MORE boring baby son Walt, as they fight over custody of their child. It's f****** boring basically. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x02promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Adrift_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=736) Episode 2.03: Orientation : Episode Centric - Locke Aired: 5th October 05 :4star: Description: Jack, Locke and Kate learn more secrets about the hatch, as they are shown an intriguing orientation video. After being beaten and taken captive, Sawyer, Michael and Jin wonder if their captors are fellow survivors, or whether they’re the dreaded "Others”; as Sawyer devises a plan to break free, with a little help from his trusty pistol. Flashbacks reveal more of Locke's weird past, as the introduction of Helen (guest star Katey Sagal) shakes things up with her revealing personality and past. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x03promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Orientation_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=737) Episode 2.04: Everybody Hates Hugo : Episode Centric - Hurley Aired: 12th October 05 :3star: Description: Hurley struggles with an assigned task inside the hatch as he flashbacks to disturbing memories in his life before the crash. Meanwhile, Sawyer, Michael and Jin learn the identities of their captors on the island, and Claire uncovers a startling piece of information about the fate of the raft. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x04promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Everybody_Hates_Hugo_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=748) Episode 2.05: ... And Found : Episode Centric - Sun and Jin Aired: 19th October 05 :3star: Description: Michael sets off into the jungle by himself determined to find Walt, but discovers that he is not alone. Meanwhile, Sawyer and Jin are ordered by their captors to take them to their camp, and Sun frantically searches for her missing wedding ring. In flashbacks this episode reveals more of Jin's life before ending up on the island. We meet Jin's former manager at the Grand Seoul Hotel, Mr. Kim, his beatnik best friend and one-time roomie, Tai Soo, and Jae Lee, an adversary of Jin's who has everything he does not, including a good education, charm and wealth. It all leads into why Jin is the way he is now. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x05promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/And_Found.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=757) [THREE WEEK BREAK] Episode 2.06: Abandoned : Episode Centric - Shannon Aired: 9th November 05 :4star: Description: Sawyer's wound becomes life-threatening as he, Michael and Jin make their way through the interior of the island with the tail section survivors. Meanwhile, Shannon is once again haunted by visions of Walt. Also, Shannon's shocking past of her former marriage as well as her manipulation of people prior to the crash are revealed. Plus, there is the revelation on the death of Shannon's father who ended up in the hospital where Jack worked. Lastly, Charlie becomes jealous of Locke's interest in Claire. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x06promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Abandoned_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=775) Episode 2.07: The Other 48 Days Aired: 16th November 05 :4star: Description: The harrowing first 48 days in the lives of the tail section survivors are revealed. Flashbacks reveal the point of view of Ana-Lucia, Mr. Eko, Bernard and Libby and other survivors as they landed on the other side of the island on the beach. As the days progress danger hits their camp as well when "The Others" start taking people against their will. The group moves inland, but unfortunately things become even worse when a member starts betraying the camp when it's revealed one was not on the flight. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x07promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/48_days_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=814) Episode 2.08: Collision : Episode Centric - Ana Aired: 23rd November 05 :3star: Description: Violence erupts when Ana Lucia and her group stumble upon Sayid and the other castaways on the island. Ana Lucia holds Sayid captive. Kate and Jack care for Sawyer when Mr. Eko brings him back to the camp himself. Flashbacks reveal Ana Lucia's troubled life as a cop after suffering a fatal blow from a former suspect she trusted in a crime scene. Lastly, one by one the tailies reach the rest of the camp. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x08promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Collision_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=820) Episode 2.09: What Kate Did : Episode Centric - Kate Aired: 30th November 05 :4star: Description: Kate's crime is finally revealed, and it's... Totally predictable. But quite well done, I guess. The flashbacks here cover her crime, as mentioned, and also her early-days on the run from the law. Be sure to look out for Sayid's guest appearence on the tele, although it's as brief as the rest of his appearences this season aside from Collision; blink and you'll miss it. On the island, Kate is going insane again. Let's face it; she's still hot, so who actually cares? Anyway, her and Jack share their hippy-love for one another behind a bush in the jungle, but as usual, she takes the huff with him and Jack cries again (yes, again). Naturally, we have a big cliffhanger ending, as has become standard before a 5 week break, and also an exciting Eko-Locke love-in, which helps to make this episode great, rather than just good. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x09promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/What_Kate_Did_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=829) [FIVE WEEK BREAK] Episode 2.10: The 23rd Psalm : Episode Centric - Mr Eko Aired: 11th January 06 :5star: Description: This episode sheds more light on the god-like Mr. Eko, and gives us an insight into his former life as a Nigerian warlord, as he stomps off into the jungle in search of his past. En-route, he arrogantly stares down smokey smokelton, the monster, who runs for his life shortly after scanning Eko with some sort of electronic nano-stuff, and realising how beastly he is. Elsewhere, Claire begins to lose faith in heroin-addict Charlie after the Nigerian GIANT Eko begins to question her about the Virgin Mary statue. Locke and Mikey do some convenient target practice on THE CAMP'S LIMITED f****** FOOD SUPPLY out in the jungle - Mikey is a born killer, which is handy for future plotlines. And Kate finally gives the recovering hero Sawyer a much-needed haircut. Episode Preview (https://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=408) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/23rd%20Psalm_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=839) Episode 2.11: The Hunting Party : Episode Centric - Jack Aired: 18th January 06 :3star: Description: Jack, Locke and Sawyer track down a determined Michael, after he heads into the jungle toward the dreaded "Others" in search of Walt. En route however, they have an encounter they could have all done without. Sun, meanwhile, has a surprising reaction to Jin's desire to join the search party, and Hurley and Charlie commiserate over the age-old conundrum of "what women want." We also learn more about some of the problems that plagued Jack's marriage to Sarah, and discover the reason for it's conclusion. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x11promo.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Hunting_Party_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=887) Episode 2.12: Fire and Water : Episode Centric - Charlie Aired: 25th January 06 :2star: Description: When Charlie's vividly surreal dreams lead him to believe Claire's baby - Aaron - is in danger, Locke suspects Charlie may be using again. Cue weird drug scenes, and an array of s*** english accents during flashbacks (which, by the way, are so pointless that I won't even bother mentioning them). Sawyer, meanwhile, encourages Hurley the Hut to act upon his attraction to liar Libby, who claims that Hurley stood on her foot whilst boarding the plane, despite sitting in completely different sections to one another. Stupid bint. Finally, Jack Bender reminds us of his apparent HATRED for John Locke, by once again doing that camera-rotating-around-his-face-to-the-tune-of-evil-music trick that seems OH SO familliar. Oh yeah.. Remember the ending of Tabula Rasa in season one? Yep, that was directed by Jack Bender as well. All Bender needs to do now is get Locke to wrap his fingers together and laugh manically, and it'll be a point well made. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x12promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Fire_Water_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/firepluswater/3/thumb_fire%2Bwater-cap208.jpg) [ONE WEEK BREAK] Episode re-run: 1.18 - "Numbers"[/b] Episode 2.13: The Long Con : Episode Centric - Sawyer Aired: 8th February 06 :4star: Description: Survivors fear that "The Others" may have returned when Sun is badly injured during a failed kidnapping attempt. Sawyer tries to pitch the blame on the war-driven Ana-Lulu, and Kate rashly believes him. Big mistake freckles. As the tension escalates, Jin shouts some random Korean at Sun, before deciding to take matters into his own hands; "Gun? Gun? Gun..? GUN..! GUUUUN!!" he yells at Jack, who noddingly agrees with Jin's crafty plan. Flashbacks explore the con-man past of evil super-villain Sawyer, as he sells some necklaces to some randoms at a gas station for MORE THAN THERE FACE VALUE, and long-cons some idiotic woman, who he inevitabley pretends to fall in love with... Only to ACTUALLY fall in love with her. Clichéd, but good nonetheless. A classic who dunnit, brought to you by ABC. Guest stars in this episode play the characters Gordy, Diane, Cassidy, Arthur and Peter. Roles are played by Kevin Dunn, Beth Broderick, Kim Dickens, Finn Armstrong and Richard Cavanna. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x13promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Long_Con_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=918) Episode 2.14: One of Them : Episode Centric - Sayid Aired: 15th February 06 :4star: Description: When Danielle leads Sayid to a mysterious captive in the jungle, he becomes determined to find out if he is one of the “Others.” Sawyer, meanwhile, discovers Hurley’s potentially devastating breech of the survivors’ trust (just how DO you still weigh 300lbs, Jabba?) and blackmails him into helping track down an elusive island creature that won’t leave Sawyer alone. Flashbacks reveal how those EVIL Americans invaded iraq, and corrupted the heroic Sayid's mind by forcing him to torture one of his own allies. I mean, you'd never see such dirty antics from Saddam's legendary forces, would you? Guest starring Lindsey Ginter as Sgt. Austen, Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, Marc Casabani as Tariq, Theo Rossi as Sgt. Buccelli, Clancy Brown as Joe Inman, and Thomas Meharey and Kamari Borden as the cunningly named U.S. soldier no. 1 and U.S. soldier no. 2. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x14promo-lg.zip) Episode Transcript (https://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/One_Of_Them_Lost.htm) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x14-oneofthem/7/thumb_oneofthem-cap676.jpg) [ONE WEEK BREAK] Episode re-runs: 1.01 - "Pilot #1" + 1.02 - "Pilot #2"[/b] Episode 2.15: Maternity Leave : Episode Centric - Claire Aired: 1st March 06 :5star: Description: When Aaron gets the sniffles, a desperate housewive Claire, along with Kate and Jean-Claude Rousseau, attempts a return to the scene of her fabled kidnapping, where she believes she might find a tub of Vic's Vapour Rub for her annoying child. Meanwhile, handsome trio Sayid, Jack and Locke try to keep their new-found pet prisoner a secret from the rest of the group, but their plans are seriously hampered when Eko demands that they allow him to trim his chin in front of Henry, who is furious when Eko doesn't hoover up the hairs from the armory floor when he's finished. Eko takes exception to this, and sends Henry into a coma by staring at him. Guest starring Mira Furlan as Jean-Claude Rousseau, Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, M.C. Gainey as Mr. Friendly (aka "zeke"), and William Mapother as Ethan Rom. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x15promo-lg.zip) Episode Image Gallery (https://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x15-maternityleave/thumb_maternity-leave-promocap33.jpg) [TWO WEEK BREAK] Episode re-runs: 1.12 - "Whatever the Case may be" + 1.06 - "House of the Rising Sun" Episode 2.16: The Whole Truth : Episode Centric - Sun Aired: 22nd March 06 :3star: Description: When Sun learns that she might be a whore, she collapses in disbelief in front of Rose and Bernard whilst they were arguing. Naturally, Bernard is furious about this. Shockingly, it later turns out that sun might be pregnant to either some random Korean bloke (not jin, the other one), the island, or - more likely - vincent the dog. In the hatch, Ana Lulu gets Henry G to draw an outline image of his balloon, so that she can colour it in later when she gets bored. He also draws a detailed map leading DIRECTLY to his balloon for her, and Ana ultimately trecks off with Shayid and Prince Charles on a nice sunny saturday adventure. What they find is...................... Revealed next week, ONLY on ABC. The episode ends on a giant cliffhanger, when Henry is absolutely disgusted at the taste of his milk, and snaps Locke and Jack's fingers in a fit of PURE rage. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x16promo-lg.zip) Episode 2.17: Lockdown : Episode Centric - Locke Aired: 29th March 06 :5star: Description: When the hatch suddenly takes on a life of its own, Locke is forced to enlist the help of an unlikely ally. Meanwhile, Ana Lucia, Sayid and Charlie go off into the jungle to find out the truth about Henry. Guest starring are Kevin Tighe as Cooper, Katey Sagal as Helen, Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, Geoffrey Rivas as Father Chuck and Theo Coumbis as Jimmy Bane, Andrea Gabriel as Nadia. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x17promo-lg.zip) Episode 2.18: Dave : Episode Centric - Hurley Aired: 5th April 06 :4star: Description: Libby lends Hurley support when he begins to think the island is having a strange effect on him, and Locke's sense of purpose is shaken when the prisoner provides new information about the hatch Guest starring are Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, Evan Handler as Dave, Bruce Davison as Dr. Brooks, Ron Bottitta as Leonard, and Grisel Toledo as nurse. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x18promo-lg.zip) Episode 2.19: S.O.S : Episode Centric - Rose and Bernard Confirmed: 12th April 06 :3star: Description: Rose is surprisingly and vehemently opposed to Bernard's plan to create an S.O.S. signal. Romantic sparks are rekindled between Jack and Kate when they trek into the jungle to propose a "trade" with "The Others"; and Locke begins to question his faith in the island. Guest starring Michael Emerson as Henry Gale. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x19promo-lg.zip) [THREE WEEK BREAK] Special Episode : "Lost: Reckoning". No episode on the first week due to "Alias". Episode 2.20: Two for the Road : Episode Centric - Ana Aired: 3rd May 06 :4star: Description: Jack and Kate bring an exhausted Michael back to the camp, and with him, news about "The Others." Meanwhile, Ana Lucia attempts to get the prisoner to confess, and Hurley plans a surprise date for Libby Guest starring Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, John Terry as Dr. Christian Shephard and Rachel Ticotin as Captain Teresa Cortez. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x20promo-lg.zip) Episode 2.21: ? : Episode Centric - Mr Eko Aired: 10th May 06 :5star: Description: Mr. Eko enlists Locke to help find a secret location he believes houses answers to the island's mysteries. Meanwhile, Jack and the other survivors struggle to cope with the horrific situation in the hatch Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x21promo-lg.zip) Episode 2.22: Three Minutes : Episode Centric - Michael Aired: 17th May 06 :3star: Description: A determined Michael convinces Jack and several castaways to help him rescue Walt from "The Others". Meanwhile, Charlie struggles with Eko's decision to discontinue building the church. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x22promo-lg.zip) Episode 2.23: Live Together, Die Alone: Episode Centric - Desmond Aired: 24th May 06 :5star: Description: After discovering something odd just offshore, Jack and Sayid come up with a plan to confront "The Others" and hopefully get Walt back. Meanwhile, Eko and Locke come to blows as Locke makes a potentially cataclysmic decision regarding the "button" and the hatch. Episode Preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x23promo.zip) SUMMARY OF THE LOST EXPERIENCE HUGE Thanks to Carencey at thefuselage.com for presenting the following information. The Hanso Foundation: Their mission statement says they stand “at the vanguard of social and scientific research for the advancement of the human race”. They have a spectacular website detailing all of their research and development projects worldwide, and they even run television ads promoting their motto of “reaching out for a better tomorrow”. The Foundation was established by noted philanthropist Alvar Hanso, and its executives dedicate the skills they bring from their life experiences to the betterment of mankind through the Foundation. However, things which look “too good to be true” often are. There seems to be a whistleblower within the Hanso Foundation—a woman who calls herself “Persephone” has been hacking the Hanso Foundation website in order to share information on the real nature of their projects and board of directors, and may even be getting assistance from sympathetic employees of companies which do business with the Foundation. Here’s what Persephone has told us so far regarding the executives of the Hanso Foundation: Thomas Mittelwerk: The President and Chief Technologist is described on the Hanso Foundation website as Alvar Hanso’s right hand man. However, Persephone points out that he cannot have been recruited by Alvar Hanso at the age of eighteen while pursuing a molecular biology degree at Caltech, as the site says—Caltech’s records show that he never studied there. Peter Thompson: The “successful corporate lawyer” joined the Hanso Foundation as Vice President, General Counsel, and Secretary after being cured of cancer at one of their clinics. Persephone tells us that before coming to work for the Foundation, the seemingly pro-philanthropy Thompson actually made a career of defending tobacco, oil, and nuclear interests against patients and citizens. He also defended Lawrence Peck and Jacob Vanderfield, members of the Foundation’s Board of Directors, against assorted charges and got very light sentences for both. Hugh McIntyre: The Communications Director has a background as a UN translator and public relations expert. His bio on the website describes him as “deeply committed to family values”. However, Persephone has provided us with evidence that McIntyre was cheating on his wife of fifteen years with an unidentified woman. McIntyre appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show on May 24, stating that Persephone was “more mischievous than damaging” and that the picture on the website was actually his predecessor’s, accidentally posted by the webmaster. The picture then disappeared and was replaced by a question mark. Alvar Hanso: The information Persephone has on the Foundation’s founder and guiding force is a bit different. She hasn’t accused Hanso himself of any nefarious activity; instead, Persephone notes that he hasn’t been seen in public since the end of 2002. Is Alvar Hanso really running the Hanso Foundation now, as the website suggests? Or is someone else in charge? Persephone’s charges regarding the Foundation’s projects are even more damning. Department of Heuristics and Research on Material Applications (DHARMA): We know very little about this department, but its name was given to us as part of a game presented in the MHA hack. There may be more information available on DHARMA in the future. The Hanso Foundation seems notoriously uncomfortable with negative publicity—brief mentions of the Foundation in the novel “Bad Twin” were greeted with a flurry of ads in major newspapers, and revelations such as Persephone’s could provoke a more dangerous response. Mathematical Forecasting Initiative: Despite the MFI’s stated goals of using mathematical models to predict the impact of pollution, population growth, and human disease, Persephone has presented us with a portion of a letter from Peter Thompson to “Minister of the Interior Mugato” regarding using findings from the Foundation’s population growth models to justify preemptive strikes on enemies—Thompson insisted on “plausible deniability”. Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program: On the Hanso Foundation’s website, the WWPDP is described as “a far-reaching educational initiative designed to teach the basics of sanitation, nutrition, and disease prevention to the world”. Persephone suggests that the free hospitals built by the Foundation have a darker purpose. A code hidden on a map of the foundation’s hospitals reads “MISSING ORGANS”. She later provided a South African newspaper account of a raid on a Hanso Foundation hospital that found patients kept in a comatose state with missing organs and bodies being kept just above freezing for organ harvesting purposes. Interestingly, the paper ran a retraction the next day regarding the involvement of the Foundation with the hospital…immediately after the paper’s purchase by the Foundation. The reporter also told Persephone of rumors that another reporter had died in a car accident immediately after penning a similar story. Mental Health Appeal: The expressed goal of the MHA is “the complete eradication of all mental illness by the end of the century”, but according to Persephone, their methods are at best questionable. She has provided us with a letter from Dr. Armand Zander, director of the Vik Institute, the MHA’s flagship institution, to “Dr.” Thomas Mittelwerk, protesting activities conducted by doctors at the hospital acting outside of his authority. Electromagnetic Research Initiative: The most basic of the Foundations’ research projects as well as the most vaguely described, the ERI seeks simply to understand electromagnetism. Persephone’s hack of this area includes another letter to Dr. Mittelwerk from a minister of the Korean government, warning that an offshore antenna project could be moved or destroyed due to negative effects on the surrounding area that include satellite and communications interference and mutations observed in nearby wildlife. Institute for Genomic Advancement: Persephone has told us relatively little about this project, whose goal is described as the eradication of disease and birth defects through a deeper understanding of the function and mechanisms of the human genome. One hack, reached by an interesting password ‘parthenogenesis’ reveals a logo apparently tattoed on the skin of a dead shark, yet this update did not contain any of Persephone’s signature text and documentation. Life Extension Project: The LEP, whose purpose is clearly stated in its name, boasts as its main achievement a 105-year-old orangutan named Joop. Persephone’s earliest site hack shared first a letter from a Global Welfare Consortium official, Jacques Maillot, to the CDC alleging a connection between the LEP’s research activities and a new meningococcal strain transmitted to humans in Africa, and a second letter from Peter Thompson effectively smoothing over the fuss—after he had taken over Maillot’s position at the GWC. So who is Persephone? She has given us very little information on her own identity—one note on the WWPDP map states that she was an employee of the foundation. In addition, as part of that same update, a page was included in the microfilm section that read “Persephone if you can read this I know who you are”. We may not know who Persephone is, but evidently someone else does. Another individual that may be a natural ally of Persephone’s is DJ Dan, a broadcaster and conspiracy hunter. Persephone used a name for Dan’s devoted listeners (“conspiraspies”) to unlock her latest update, which suggests some sort of connection between these two. In addition, one caller to a recent show of DJ Dan’s was “concerned” enough to issue threats if Dan didn’t stop his criticism of the Hanso Foundation. Since Persephone has shared information on the true nature of the Hanso Foundation’s executives and nearly all of its projects, it is unclear what directions any future revelations of hers may take. Hanso watchers and conspiraspies should stay tuned. Addendum June 16, 2006: Persephone had one more update today regarding the disappearance of Alvar Hanso. Hanso had apparently suffered some sort of medical crisis before vanishing, and afterwards, his office was slowly picked over in his absence. Just as Persephone was confessing that she believed Mittelwerk was responsible for the current direction of the Foundation, the transmission was abruptly cut off with the following message—“The Hanso Foundation site has been hacked by malicious infiltrators seeking to damage the good work of many dedicated researchers. Until a legal investigation is completed, the site will no longer be accessible to the public. Namaste.” It appears that Persephone will need to find a new outlet if she wishes to continue her efforts against the Hanso Foundation. Source: https://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=53316 CHARACTERS + FLASHBACKS Jack Shephard (5) 1.05 - White Rabbit; 1.11 - All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues; 1.20 - Do No Harm; 2.01 - Man of Science, Man of Faith; 2.11 - The Hunting Party Kate Austin (4) 1.03 - Tabula Rasa; 1.12 - Whatever the Case May Be; 1.22 - Born to Run; 2.09 - What Kate Did. John Locke (4) 1.04 - Walkabout; 1.19 - Deus Ex Machina; 2.03 - Orientation; 2.17 - Lockdown. Mr Eko (3) 2.07 - The Other 48 Days; 2.10 - The 23rd Psalm; 2.21 - ?. Charlie Pace (3) 1.07 - The Moth; 1.15 - Homecoming; 2.12 - Fire + Water. Sayid Jarrah (3) 1.09 - Solitary; 1.21 - The Greater Good; 2.14 - One of Them. James "Sawyer" Ford (3) 1.08 - Confidence Man; 1.16 - Outlaws; 2.13 - The Long Con. Hugo "Hurley" Reyes (3) 1.18 - Numbers; 2.04 - Everybody Hates Hugo; 2.18 - Dave. Michael Dawson (3) 1.14 - Special; 2.02 - Adrift; 2.22 - Three Minutes. Bernard (2) 2.07 - The Other 48 Days; 2.19 - S.O.S. Claire Littleton (2) 1.10 - Raised by Another; 2.15 - Maternity Leave. Jin Kwon (2) 1.17 - ... In Translation; 2.05 - ... And Found. Sun Kwon(2) 1.06 - House of the Rising Sun; 2.16 - The Whole Truth. Rose (1) 2.19 - S.O.S. Walt Lloyd (1) 1.14 - Special. Desmond David Hume (1) 2.23 - Live Together, Die Alone. Libby (2) (Dead: 2.21 - ?) 2.07 - The Other 48 Days; 2.18 - Dave. Ana-Lucia Cortez (3) (Dead: 2.20 - Two for the Road) 2.07 - The Other 48 Days; 2.08 - Collision; 2.20 - Two for the Road. Shannon Rutherford (1) (Dead: 2.06 - Abandoned) 2.06 - Abandoned. Boone Carlyle (1) (Dead: 1.21 - Do no Harm) 1.13 - Hearts and Minds. SEASON TWO PRODUCTION TEAM Note: Writers are only credited if they wrote the actual final script for the episode; storyline creators are not included. Matt Earl Beesley (Director) Previous Episodes: 2.10 - The 23rd Psalm. Upcoming Episodes: None. Jack Bender (Head Director) Previous Episodes: 1.03 - Tabula Rasa; 1.04 - Walkabout; 1.07 - The Moth; 1.12 - Whatever the Case May be; 1.16 - Outlaws; 1.23 - Exodus Part One; 1.24 - Exodus Part Two; 2.01 - Man of Science, Man of Faith; 2.03 - Orientation; 2.12 - Fire + Water; 2.15 - Maternity Leave; 2.18 - Dave. Upcoming Episodes: 2.23 - Live Together, Die Alone. Carlton Cuse (Head Writer) Previous Episodes: 1.13 - Hearts and Minds; 1.19 - Deus Ex Machina; 1.23 - Exodus Part One; 1.24 - Exodus Part Two; 2.05 - ... And Found; 2.07 - The Other 48 Days; 2.10 - The 23rd Psalm; 2.14 - One of Them; 2.17 - Lockdown; 2.21 - ?. Upcoming Episodes: 2.23 - Live Together, Die Alone. Adam Davidson (Director) Previous Episodes: 2.06 - Abandoned. Upcoming Episodes: None. Roxann Dawson (Director) Previous Episodes: 2.13 - The Long Con. Upcoming Episodes: None. Leonard Dick (Writer) Previous Episodes: 1.17 - ... In Translation; 1.21 - The Greater Good; 2.02 - Adrift; 2.08 - Collision; 2.13 - The Long Con; 2.19 - S.O.S. Upcoming Episodes: None. Paul Edwards (Director) Previous Episodes: 2.09 - What Kate Did; 2.20 - Two for the Road. Upcoming Episodes: None. Karen Gaviola (Director) Previous Episodes: 2.16 - The Whole Truth. Upcoming Episodes: None. Drew Goddard (Writer) Previous Episodes: 1.16 - Outlaws Upcoming Episodes: None. Adam Horowitz (Writer) Previous Episodes: 1.22 - Born to Run; 2.04 - Everybody Hates Hugo; 2.12 - Fire + Water; 2.19 - Dave. Upcoming Episodes: 2.22 - Three Minutes. Dawn Kelly (Writer) Previous Episodes: 2.15 - Maternity Leave. Upcoming Episodes: None. Christina M. Kim (Writer) Previous Episodes: 2.11 - The Hunting Party; 2.16 - The Whole Truth; 2.20 - Two for the Road.. Upcoming Episodes: None. Edward Kitsis (Writer) Previous Episodes: 1.22 - Born to Run; 2.04 - Everybody Hates Hugo; 2.12 - Fire + Water; 2.18 - Dave. Upcoming Episodes: 2.22 - Three Minutes. Eric Laneuville (Director) Previous Episodes: 2.07 - The Other 48 Days; 2.19 - S.O.S. Upcoming Episodes: None. Damon Lindelof (Head Writer) Previous Episodes: 1.01 - Pilot Part One; 1.02 - Pilot Part Two; 1.03 - Tabula Rasa; 1.08 - Confidence Man; 1.12 - Whatever the Case May Be; 1.15 - Homecoming; 1.19 - Deus Ex Machina; 1.23 - Exodus Part One; 1.24 - Exodus Part Two; 2.01 - Man of Science, Man of Faith; 2.05 - ... And Found; 2.07 - The Other 48 Days; 2.10 - The 23rd Psalm; 2.14 - One of Them; 2.17 - Lockdown; 2.21 - ?. Upcoming Episodes: 2.23 - Live Together, Die Alone. Steve Maeda (Writer) Previous Episodes: 2.02 - Adrift, 2.09 - What Kate Did; 2.13 - The Long Con; 2.19 - S.O.S. Upcoming Episodes: None. Javier Grillo-Marxuach (Writer) Previous Episodes: 1.06 - House of the Rising Sun; 1.11 - All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues; 1.13 - Hearts and Minds; 1.17 - ... In Translation; 1.22 - Born to Run; 2.03 - Orientation; 2.08 - Collision. Upcoming Episodes: None. Gregg Nations (Writer) Previous Episodes: None. Upcoming Episodes: None. Matt Ragghianti (Writer) Previous Episodes: 2.15 - Maternity Leave. Upcoming Episodes: None. Elizabeth Sarnoff (Writer) Previous Episodes: 2.06 - Abandoned; 2.11 - The Hunting Party; 2.16 - The Whole Truth; 2.20 - Two for the Road. Upcoming Episodes: None. Deran Sarafian (Director) Previous Episodes: 2.21 - ?. Upcoming Episodes: None. Alan Taylor (Director) Previous Episodes: 2.04 - Everybody Hates Hugo. Upcoming Episodes: None. Stephen Williams (Director) Previous Episodes: 1.11 - All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues; 1.20 - Do no Harm; 2.02 - Adrift; 2.05 - ... And Found; 2.08 - Collision; 2.11 - The Hunting Party; 2.14 - One of Them; 2.17 - Lockdown. Upcoming Episodes: 2.22 - Three Minutes. Craig Wright (Writer) Previous Episodes: 2.03 - Orientation; 2.09 - What Kate Did. Upcoming Episodes: None. OFFICIAL LOST PODCASTS Season Finale Recap (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_19_direct.mp3) May 22nd 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_18_direct.mp3) May 15th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_17_direct.mp3) May 8th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_16_direct.mp3) May 1st 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_15_direct.mp3) April 10th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_14_direct.mp3) April 3rd 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_13_direct.mp3) March 28th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_12_direct.mp3) March 20th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_11_direct.mp3) March 1st 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_10_direct.mp3) February 13th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_09_direct.mp3) February 6th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_08_direct.mp3) January 23rd 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_07_direct.mp3) January 17th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_06_direct.mp3) January 9th 2006 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_05_8213_direct.mp3) Orchestra Special (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_Orchestra_8213_direct.mp3) November 28th 2005 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_04_direct.mp3) Commentary of Episode 8: "Collision" (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_Collision81_direct.mp3) November 21st 2005 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_03rev_direct.mp3) November 14th 2005 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_02abc_direct.mp3) November 8th 2005 (https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/LostPodcast_01_direct.mp3) LOST WEBSITES AND FANSITES ABC Official Site (https://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/) Official LOST Messageboard (https://www.thefuselage.com/) Channel 4 Official Site - Including LOST untold (https://www.channel4.com/lost) Hanso Foundation (Official) (https://www.thehansofoundation.org/) Oceanic Air (https://www.oceanicairlines.com) Oceanic Airlines (Official) (https://www.oceanic-airlines.com/) Oceanic Flight 815 (Official) (https://www.oceanicflight815.com/) Lost Links (https://www.lostlinks.net) Lost-Media (https://www.lost-media.com) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on September 26, 2005, 12:45:31 AM Is this another person in the hatch with Desmond; a woman, apparently, behind Locke's left-most shoulder?
(https://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9035/woman9iq.jpg) THE PLOT THICKENS Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on September 27, 2005, 08:44:39 PM What night is it shown in America and when does it become available to download?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on September 27, 2005, 08:47:46 PM It's aired at around 1 am UK time; so I'd guess it'll be available by 3/4ish...
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on September 27, 2005, 08:48:35 PM It's aired at around 1 am UK time; so I'd guess it'll be available by 3/4ish... Tonight? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on September 27, 2005, 08:51:16 PM It's aired at around 1 am UK time; so I'd guess it'll be available by 3/4ish... Tonight? Tomorrow. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on September 27, 2005, 08:56:38 PM Or Thursday, depending on how you look at it. ;)
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on September 27, 2005, 08:59:33 PM Or Thursday, depending on how you look at it. ;) You just clarified that in time! :lol: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on September 29, 2005, 04:54:42 PM Just watched the second episode; not quite as good as the first, but still good, and it raised yet more questions to be pondered:
1) Who is "him", that Desmond refers to? 2) Why is that hexagonal "Dharma" badge on EVERYTHING (including the shark; https://lost.cubit.net/pics/lostShark.jpg) 3) How did Jin get back to the Island so quickly? 4) Who were the "others" that were following Jin? 5) Why does Desmond have to continuously re-enter the code on his computer every x amount of minutes? Frustrating that we didn't get to see more of Jack/Desmond at the end though, but I suppose that's for next week's episode. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on September 30, 2005, 07:36:48 PM I've a feeling that even midway through the 4th series we still won't have a clue what the hell's going on!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on September 30, 2005, 07:45:12 PM Aye. That's what's I like about it though; it creates LOADS of speculation and questions.
It's like a mystery program, where you don't even know what exactly the mystery is. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on September 30, 2005, 08:12:51 PM Something a bit odd about the whole 60's decor in Desmond's bunker. Lava lamp, American diner style table, music collection. I wonder if he's not the first person to have been down there?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on September 30, 2005, 08:21:45 PM That's what I was thinking; maybe Desmond has been assigned there to protect something (by entering the numbers), and "him" is the person who has to take over the job from Desmond after a certain period of time?
I noticed that Kate ate the chocolate bar after checking the expiry date on it's wrapper; so that alone suggests that either Desmond hasn't been down there for that long, or at least that he gets re-supplied every so often. It was strange though, that he said "So.. There's still a world out there?!", when Locke was talking about the plane crash. Suggests he was maybe brought to the hatch initially under the belief that the world was about to end or something. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 02, 2005, 01:04:14 AM Episode 3 trailer:
https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x03promo-cdn.zip More than likely contains spoilers; so again, don't mention anything from within it if you watch it please. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on October 06, 2005, 07:42:19 PM Episode 3 currently being downloaded... :D
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 06, 2005, 08:54:34 PM I've just watched it (albeit with out-of-synch audio, which was quite annoying), thought it was an outstanding episode overall; arguably as good as the first of the season. Quite a few questions answered as well, which was a pleasant surprise.
I accidently caught the preview for next weeks show at the end as well, and all I can say is ":shock:" Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Hansen on October 07, 2005, 04:47:05 PM Enjoyed the episode, but I must say, I got surprised when we saw the movie in the hatch. The city pictured there i just an hour drive away from here. I travel to the city a couple of times a year for football matches. Up in Northern-Norway, who would have though? Now the Norwegian newspapers are running a story about it. It actually turns out, that the mystic person in the movie (described as Alvar Hanso) is being pointed out by persons in the building as the father of the coach for one of the best clubs in Norway (JA Riise's former club), which the coach doesn't deny after seing the footage. Clearly the same city.
Video image: (https://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/44/445/445691/lostnarvik_2Xcopy.jpg) Narvik (The City): (https://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/44/445/445691/NarvikXRXdhusXXXtorvet.jpg) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on October 07, 2005, 05:47:38 PM Canny episode but the out of sink sound was getting on my tits a bit!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 10, 2005, 01:29:34 PM Dunno if anyone's ever noticed this during episode 1; but you can clearly see some kind of black object, like the smoke seen during the later episodes when the 'monster' attacks, fly past the exploding engine and head upwards:
(https://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ms322801/lostturbineenhanced.gif) There's also another bit flies off to the right, if you look closely. Another interesting thing is that the Dharma logo appears to be engraved on the side of the aircraft: (https://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season1/1x05-whiterabbit/normal_white-rabbit555.jpg) You can see it just to the right of the canopy on the above image, and to the far right of the picture, in line with Walt's waste, on the one below: (https://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season1/1x03-tabularasa/normal_tabularasa530.jpg) There's bigger versions of those images on the links below: https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=47&pos=552 https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=47&pos=552 Could possibly suggest that Dharma brought the plane down deliberately, for whatever reason. Maybe to use the survivors as research subjects? (Which could also co-incide with the next image) Another good one compares the two founding scientists in the Hanso Foundation video, to "the others" that were on the boat when Walt was kidnapped: (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/j_n_thompson/XNot%20Kid%20Related/LOST/theothers.jpg) I think it's certainly plausible that they could be the same people (taking into account that they'd both be around 15/20 years older), which raises yet more questions about what's going on... My current theory is that "the others" are scientists (or ex-scientists) at Dharma, and they deliberately brought the plane down and kidnapped Walt so that they could experiment on him, since he seems to have some kind of "powers" (as we seen when he apparently made the bird crash into the window during his flashback)... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: HTT on October 10, 2005, 02:01:07 PM I know what happens at the end.
It's all a dream. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 10, 2005, 02:06:08 PM I know what happens at the end. It's all a dream. Well if that turns out to be the case whenever the show finaly finishes, I'll come back to this thread, consider that to be a spoiler, hack into your account, and ban your IP from within. Just so you know like. ;) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on October 10, 2005, 06:11:37 PM Dunno if anyone's ever noticed this during episode 1; but you can clearly see some kind of black object, like the smoke seen during the later episodes when the 'monster' attacks, fly past the exploding engine and head upwards: (https://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ms322801/lostturbineenhanced.gif) There's also another bit flies off to the right, if you look closely. At first I was thinking that someone had mocked up that smoke but I've just watched it again on DVD and well buggar me! It really is there! bluebigeek.gif Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 10, 2005, 09:40:36 PM Yep. It could just turn out to be naff special effects of course, but I seriously doubt it given that the rest of the CGI on the show is generally good.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 13, 2005, 06:03:12 PM Just watched episode 4 - one of the best episodes of Lost yet in my opinion; it had just the right amount of plot advancement AND some excellent character development, which we haven't had for a while. I thought Hurley's flashbacks were excellent (certainly the best this series), and the slower pacing of the episode made a nice change from the all-action stuff of late.
Some interesting questions raised too; especially about the other survivors, and why their numbers have been depleted. Also, what it is that's making them so paranoid that they've resorted to attacking anyone they see, and hiding themselves in another one of those hatch things so as not to be found. I presume that either "the others" or "the sickness" are responsible on both accounts, but I'd be surprised if the answer turns out to be that simple. On a side note, I didn't particularly like Michelle Rodrigues' character in this episode, seems like just about every other character she's ever played; the stereotypical hard-ass beast-woman thing. Maybe she'll improve though... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on October 13, 2005, 06:28:14 PM Downloading now so will probably watch it tomorrow night.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on October 13, 2005, 08:48:40 PM I've started to watch the 1st series back and have just watched episode 4. There's something in there that I'd completely forgotten about. Locke was boar hunting and came face to face (?) with the monster/thing in the jungle. It didn't harm him but instead it would seem provided him with the boar it had just captured and killed. Obviously later on in the series the "thing" appears again and would seem to be some weird black smoke. It's also described by the French woman as a security device.
So what did Locke see and why did it spare him? Remember near the end of the series the black smoke was trying to pull him down into the hole and when Jack was trying to save him he said that he knew he would be alright and Jack was to let him go. He must know what the "thing" is and seems to know a lot more about the island then he's letting on. He truely believes it is his destiny to be there particularly as he's recovered the use of his legs since the plane crash. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 14, 2005, 01:35:59 PM That's definately something we'll find out sooner or later I think - but maybe Locke didn't see anything at all; the machine (if it is a machine) could have killed the boar accidentally (when it was doing it's usual ground exploding trick), and Locke could have just happened to stumble upon it on his way back to camp. Alternatively, of course, Locke could have just hunted the boar himself at some other point which we weren't shown...
When "it" tried to drag Locke down the hole in Exodus 2, Locke's response to the situation could have been purely based around his own faith that the being on the island is his "destiny" (a leap of faith, as he would call it), and not based around any of his actual previous experiences on the island at all. Suppose we'll just have to wait and see on that front though... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 15, 2005, 09:34:58 PM Episode 5 preview:
https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x05promo-sm.zip Spoilers etc. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 20, 2005, 02:39:47 PM Talking to myself (https://lost.fubarweb.co.uk/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif)
Just watched episode 5; fairly average, didn't really learn anything new. Based on the episode 6 preview though, I think it's safe to say that it's very much a case of "the calm before the storm". It's all building up to something huge... Apparently we now have 3 weeks to wait until the next episode, because of the American 'Rounders' World Championships potentially interfering with the viewing figures or something (because 23.5 million apparently isn't quite enough). How frustrating. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on October 21, 2005, 05:53:14 PM I thought it was an alright episode. Canny few "others" knocking about!
I can't believe we've got to wait 3 weeks for the next episode!!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 23, 2005, 06:20:04 PM From what I've read about it (I've completely given up on avoiding spoilers nowadays), it's going to be worth the wait. I read a review of the episode on some American entertainment site the other day, and they said that it was probably the best, and by far the most explosive, episode of Lost yet.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on October 23, 2005, 08:19:36 PM yeah the spoilers just seem to find me as well. themes for this season look very good. although after a while they must run out of flash backs for the main characters. suppose some new ones may get written in, as i hear the extras from the original survivors are all proper actors so they could take a main part at any time i.e arzt.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 25, 2005, 03:46:32 PM Yeah, there'll no doubt be flashbacks for the tail survivors sooner rather than later; as you say, the ones for the current cast are kind of rehashing most of what we already know. I suppose we'll get on-island flashbacks before too long as well;such as Claire getting kidnapped by Ethan and so on.
I'm not sure if people constitute this as a spoiler, but I'll put spoiler warnings anyway, just incase. Basically just the names of the upcoming episodes, and who they're based around: *POSSIBLE SPOILERS IN WHITE* Episode 2:6: "Abandoned" : Episode Centric = Shannon Episode 2:7: "The Other 48 Days" : Episode Centric = Unknown (tail-section survivors?) Episode 2.08: "Old Habits" : Episode Centric = Charlie Episode 2.09: "Reunion Tour" : Episode Centric = Sawyer Episode 2.10: "Merged" : Episode Centric = UNKNOWN Episode 2.11: "Early Bird" : Episode Centric = UNKNOWN Episode 2.12: "Vindication" : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN *SPOILERS* Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on October 25, 2005, 08:31:22 PM really looking forward to the other 48 days. theres some picsw on lost-media.com and it looks good. really starting to like that mr.eko bloke and thats weird for me since i only like sawyer, locke, jin and hurley out of everyone on the island. ana-lucia is going to piss me off mind. does rodriguez ever play a role wheres shes not some wise cracking hard ass bitch? 3 weeks is taking the piss mind, bloody world series!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: NE6 on October 26, 2005, 01:12:23 AM Nearly finished watching the last few of series one. Where do i get episode 2 from, I'm hooked :tongue3:
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 26, 2005, 02:46:05 PM really looking forward to the other 48 days. theres some picsw on lost-media.com and it looks good. really starting to like that mr.eko bloke and thats weird for me since i only like sawyer, locke, jin and hurley out of everyone on the island. ana-lucia is going to piss me off mind. does rodriguez ever play a role wheres shes not some wise cracking hard ass bitch? 3 weeks is taking the piss mind, bloody world series! If you think 3 weeks is bad, just wait for the six weeks brake at Christmas, which they'll Inevitably go into on the end of a pathetically frustrating cliffhanger; like they did last year with the discovery of the hatch... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on October 26, 2005, 03:40:10 PM xmas sounds like torture. downloaded the whole first series and watched it in no time so not used to having to wait a week never mind months. frustating as hell like this show. every time one question gets answered, 5 more questions are asked. for instance, we discovered desmond is down the hatch, but now we want to know why all the concrete, what will happen to the island if the numbers aren't entered, who was kelvin, where does desmond get his food from and what was he injecting himself with? it stupidly annoying yet stupidly addictive at the same time!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 27, 2005, 03:35:08 PM They've made a few changes to the episode titles/flashbacks I posted further up the page, new ones are as follows (in white):
2.6 - Abandoned (a.k.a "The Hunt") - Shannon 2.7 - The Other 48 Days - First ever episode to be an entire flashback, centred around the tail-enders' time on the island since the crash 2.8 - Old Habbits (subject to change) - Ana Lucia 2.9 - Reunion Tour - Kate 2.10 - Merged (subject to change) - First ever pre-crash, on-island flashback; reportedly centred around either Danielle or Desmond 2.11 - Early Bird - Claire (subject to change) 2.12 - Vindication - Sayid (subject to change) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on October 27, 2005, 04:42:59 PM cheers mate, some of them sound very intersting indeed.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on October 27, 2005, 05:51:12 PM Has the yank rounders not finished now? Why another 2 weeks before Lost is back???
Yours frustrated of Whitley Bay Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 27, 2005, 05:55:17 PM I think it's partly because the producers need time to create future episodes as well; so that the TV schedule doesn't catch up with them if they make any mistakes, or if something goes wrong during production or whatever.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 27, 2005, 10:10:43 PM In other news, Darren Aronofsky; famed for directing "Pi" and "Requiem for a Dream" has agreed to co-direct (with Damon Lindelof and JJ Abrams, no doubt) one of the series finale episodes of Lost in May. This is basically awesome news, because he's basically an awesome director.
There's a brief article about it here: https://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11739 Can't wait for his episode personally. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on October 30, 2005, 11:19:20 PM The episode list I posted above has changed AGAIN. New ones are below, in white text:
2.6 - "Abandoned" - Shannon 2.7 - "The Other 48 Days" - Tail-enders 2.8 - "Collision" - Ana-Lucia 2.9 - "What Kate Did" - Kate 2.10 - "Merged" - Desmond (TBC) 2.11 - "Early Bird" - Claire (TBC) 2.12 - "Vindication" - Sayid (TBC) ABC's latest press release also contains the basic plot summaries for the episodes to be aired during November (up to episode 2.9). Some spoilers here, but nothing massive: 2.06: LOST -- “ABANDONED” – WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 9 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET) -- Sawyer’s wound becomes life-threatening as he, Michael and Jin make their way through the interior of the island with the tail section survivors. Meanwhile, Shannon is once again haunted by visions of Walt, and Charlie becomes jealous of Locke’s interest in Claire. Guest starring Malcolm David Kelley as Walt, Sam Anderson as Bernard, Ian Somerhalder as Boone. 2.07: LOST – “THE OTHER 48 DAYS” – WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 16 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET) -- The harrowing first 48 days in the lives of the tail section survivors are revealed. 2.08: LOST – “COLLISION” – WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 23 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET) -- Violence erupts when Ana Lucia and her group stumble upon the other castaways. 2.09: LOST – “WHAT KATE DID” – WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 30 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET) – As Kate’s backstory continues, her original crime is revealed. Locke and Eko make an interesting discovery about the film, and Michael has a mysterious encounter with the computer. (end of spoilers) Finally, there's a preview for episode 2.06 on the link below, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet: https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x06promo-lg.zip Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on October 31, 2005, 10:42:49 AM locke and eko together is going to be great. out on the hunt and all that. i running off a theory that ana-lucia is a cop and maybe thats why the violence erupts when the castaways meet cos she sees kate maybe? and then the next episode is what kate did so that fits my theory. my theories have been known to be wrong mind you.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 02, 2005, 12:58:37 AM This hasn't been posted in here, so just on the off chance that any of you haven't seen it yet...
Lost Season One Rhapsody (https://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lost) Amused me anyway :lol: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 02, 2005, 12:02:55 PM Went on the ABC site and it says that the 'orientation' episode is on tonight. Is that right?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 02, 2005, 12:12:27 PM Yeah, they're repeating "Orientation", "Everybody Hates Hugo" and "...And Found" over the course of the next seven days I think.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 02, 2005, 04:11:41 PM That explains it then. So episode 6 is on next week?
Think its going to be Shannon who dies. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: allmo4001 on November 02, 2005, 05:26:04 PM Quote I've started to watch the 1st series back and have just watched episode 4. There's something in there that I'd completely forgotten about. Locke was boar hunting and came face to face (?) with the monster/thing in the jungle. It didn't harm him but instead it would seem provided him with the boar it had just captured and killed. Obviously later on in the series the "thing" appears again and would seem to be some weird black smoke. It's also described by the French woman as a security device. So what did Locke see and why did it spare him? Remember near the end of the series the black smoke was trying to pull him down into the hole and when Jack was trying to save him he said that he knew he would be alright and Jack was to let him go. He must know what the "thing" is and seems to know a lot more about the island then he's letting on. He truely believes it is his destiny to be there particularly as he's recovered the use of his legs since the plane crash. I think locke was infected with the sickness . The sickness maybe the others way of getting locke on there side by cahnging his mental state. Thats why he wanted to get down the hatch so bad because "the others" may have not been to. Also to 108 minutes could be an Elctromagnetism thing that "cloaks " the island form radars etc... That maybe the reason locke was so eager to press the button. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 03, 2005, 08:15:45 PM In other news, Darren Aronofsky; famed for directing "Pi" and "Requiem for a Dream" has agreed to co-direct (with Damon Lindelof and JJ Abrams, no doubt) one of the series finale episodes of Lost in May. This is basically awesome news, because he's basically an awesome director. There's a brief article about it here: https://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11739 Can't wait for his episode personally. Can't express how excited that makes me!! How sad is that!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 03, 2005, 08:16:54 PM Also The Fountain is almost ready!!
About bloody time!! Come on Darren, chop chop. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 03, 2005, 08:23:48 PM Something I noticed:
No. survivors in main group = 42 (Not including what's his face who kidnaped Claire) No. survivors in tail section = 23 No. survivors left from tail section = 4 bollocks it's 5 isn't it, forget that for a theory!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 03, 2005, 08:26:35 PM I heard that the reason for the gaps between episodes is because they haven't made them yet. They're in such a rush to show them and keep the viewing figures that they started the second season asap instead of waiting.
They do this regularly in the States, apparently. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 03, 2005, 08:39:24 PM I heard that the reason for the gaps between episodes is because they haven't made them yet. They're in such a rush to show them and keep the viewing figures that they started the second season asap instead of waiting. They do this regularly in the States, apparently. Oooh, it's just like Corrie! :lol: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 03, 2005, 09:03:46 PM Anyone notice Desmond had a brand new washing machine and tumble dryer?
Maybe he got them online using his ancient Mac 2!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 03, 2005, 09:12:24 PM https://www.thehansofoundation.org/
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 03, 2005, 10:34:38 PM Goto https://www.oceanicflight815.com/
Have a play with the seating plan, there's some good stuff there. If you ask me nicely, I'll let you into a secret (Well something I've not seen anyone else mention). Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 03, 2005, 11:15:25 PM I heard that the reason for the gaps between episodes is because they haven't made them yet. They're in such a rush to show them and keep the viewing figures that they started the second season asap instead of waiting. Yeah, they make seven or eight episodes over the summer, and they then record the next ones as the others are being shown. The three week break in October then buys then enough time to accomodate for any mistakes/accidents/changes in episodes/changes in the schedule etc, and also keeps the viewers waiting in anticipation as they go into the "November sweeps". They then have a six week break at chrismas - 2 weeks for holiday, and 4 weeks for recording. And then they have regular 2 or 3 week breaks between each episode from February to the end of the season, recording a new episode during each week. Or something like that anyway... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 06, 2005, 06:52:59 PM Bloody ABC and their three week break!!
I'm developing LostJunky flu. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 06, 2005, 07:12:14 PM Only three more days of waiting after today. :banana:
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 06, 2005, 08:30:36 PM Yes only three days and half a day waiting for the download to go :banana:
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 07, 2005, 11:02:17 AM Do you download from limewire?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 11:03:37 AM no, elsewhere.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 07, 2005, 12:46:14 PM ......?
no, elsewhere. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: pudmag on November 07, 2005, 12:57:05 PM How far are we through series one here??? The last episode I watched was on e4. ( where charlie shot ethan, i think...)This is killing me, reading about series two, when we still watching series one ARGHHH........ bluebigeek.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 07, 2005, 02:01:10 PM Don't read about season two then :lol:
You're coming up to the best set of episodes in series one before long, don't ruin it for yourself! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 02:02:20 PM ......? no, elsewhere. Not supposed to talk about torrent sites on here, aparently, so if you want to know where I'll pm you. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 02:12:45 PM How far are we through series one here??? The last episode I watched was on e4. ( where charlie shot ethan, i think...)This is killing me, reading about series two, when we still watching series one ARGHHH........ bluebigeek.gif Speaking of this bit, did anyone else notice that when they're burying Ethan he's still breathing?? Do you think this is just a cockup or is it significant? On a programme where so much effort has been put into "hidden" details, you'd think that the only reason they would have allowed this through the editing process would be if it was deliberate. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 07, 2005, 02:17:35 PM It was a cock-up. Or possibly a red herring. The actor who plays him (forget his name) said that he'd been told by J.J Abrams that he wouldn't be returning to the show, except to appear in flashbacks and suchlike.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: pudmag on November 07, 2005, 04:38:30 PM How far are we through series one here??? The last episode I watched was on e4. ( where charlie shot ethan, i think...)This is killing me, reading about series two, when we still watching series one ARGHHH........ bluebigeek.gif Speaking of this bit, did anyone else notice that when they're burying Ethan he's still breathing?? Do you think this is just a cockup or is it significant? On a programme where so much effort has been put into "hidden" details, you'd think that the only reason they would have allowed this through the editing process would be if it was deliberate. No I didn`t notice!! Pit and the Pendulam, gives me the shivers.... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 05:07:22 PM How far are we through series one here??? The last episode I watched was on e4. ( where charlie shot ethan, i think...)This is killing me, reading about series two, when we still watching series one ARGHHH........ bluebigeek.gif Speaking of this bit, did anyone else notice that when they're burying Ethan he's still breathing?? Do you think this is just a cockup or is it significant? On a programme where so much effort has been put into "hidden" details, you'd think that the only reason they would have allowed this through the editing process would be if it was deliberate. No I didn`t notice!! Pit and the Pendulam, gives me the shivers.... Sorry, am I being thick by not knowing what you mean? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 05:09:25 PM Unless you're talking about the Edgar Allen Poe thing or the old Vincent Price film?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 05:47:58 PM Goto https://www.oceanicflight815.com/ Have a play with the seating plan, there's some good stuff there. If you ask me nicely, I'll let you into a secret (Well something I've not seen anyone else mention). Ok seeing as no-one has asked I'll tell you anyway. If you go to the seating plan on the above site and click on rows 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, & 42, in order you get sent to another website with shed loads of stuff on it. Also, click each seat along the top row and after a while some of the seats change colour and if you click on them stuff happens. That's about all I've found so far, if you find anything else let us know. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 06:22:36 PM Whilst checking out some lost stuff I found a link to this page, it's something to do with the show but god knows what. It's also very strange in itself, chack it out.
https://bigspaceship1.com/ Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 07, 2005, 07:33:52 PM Goto https://www.oceanicflight815.com/ Have a play with the seating plan, there's some good stuff there. If you ask me nicely, I'll let you into a secret (Well something I've not seen anyone else mention). Ok seeing as no-one has asked I'll tell you anyway. If you go to the seating plan on the above site and click on rows 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, & 42, in order you get sent to another website with shed loads of stuff on it. Also, click each seat along the top row and after a while some of the seats change colour and if you click on them stuff happens. That's about all I've found so far, if you find anything else let us know. How do you get to the seating plan?? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 07, 2005, 07:43:44 PM Think he linked to the wrong site.
https://www.oceanic-air.com/ is the one with the seating plan. Click on "find", then do what Indigo said in his post. Also, on some of the pages on that site, if you view the page's source you can see some hidden messages from some of the background survivors. None of them really give anything away, but it's still a nice touch. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 07:47:21 PM What do you get when you use that link?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 07, 2005, 07:50:32 PM f*** me! I nearly s*** myself when I clicked on Locke's seat!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 07, 2005, 07:58:43 PM Good bit on the seating plan if you click on the "Pre-Flight Seating Check" bit. Re-arrange the letters of Ethan Rom.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 07, 2005, 08:05:09 PM Oooh, just found another good bit that show you a trailer for Series 2. Click on the flickering seat numbers below the Economy Class bit. The bit that says "11-42" but is flickering with "11-42F". Then click on the seat highlighted.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 07, 2005, 09:33:37 PM Think he linked to the wrong site. https://www.oceanic-air.com/ is the one with the seating plan. Click on "find", then do what Indigo said in his post. Also, on some of the pages on that site, if you view the page's source you can see some hidden messages from some of the background survivors. None of them really give anything away, but it's still a nice touch. Yeah, I kind of gave the game away there by giving the address of the site it links to instead of the first one, oh well. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: pudmag on November 08, 2005, 01:07:08 AM Unless you're talking about the Edgar Allen Poe thing or the old Vincent Price film? Yes, that was it. Bit of topic, sorry about that. Scares the s*** out of me. Buried alive.....shudder....... I can`t even watch that episode of steptoe and son, where the father (you dirty old man) pretended to be dead......ewww..... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 08, 2005, 11:31:27 PM Heh, I've just been watching the final episode of season one again and noticed something I'd somehow never seen before; when Hurley is on the buggy he buys from the old man in the airport, he drives past a set of cheerleaders who are lined up in the forground. Each of them have one of the numbers printed on the back of their shirt.
Subliminal messaging :banana: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 08, 2005, 11:45:33 PM Heh, I've just been watching the final episode of season one again and noticed something I'd somehow never seen before; when Hurley is on the buggy he buys from the old man in the airport, he drives past a set of cheerleaders who are lined up in the forground. Each of them have one of the numbers printed on the back of their shirt. Subliminal messaging :banana: Aha, but in the same episode, did you notice the figures on the dashboard of his car? Even more subliminal!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 08, 2005, 11:46:42 PM Has it been on in the states yet??
If it has how long do you think it'll take for someone to DivX it and get it up on certain websites? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 08, 2005, 11:49:54 PM It's on tomorow night in the states, 9/8 central (About 3am our time).
Probably "available" for UK viewers at around 8am. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 08, 2005, 11:52:12 PM Oh yeah! I forgot it's only Tuesday.
How stupid am I? It's my Birthday tomorrow (Wednesday) and I still forgot, I must be getting old!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 08, 2005, 11:53:13 PM Heh, I've just been watching the final episode of season one again and noticed something I'd somehow never seen before; when Hurley is on the buggy he buys from the old man in the airport, he drives past a set of cheerleaders who are lined up in the forground. Each of them have one of the numbers printed on the back of their shirt. Subliminal messaging :banana: Aha, but in the same episode, did you notice the figures on the dashboard of his car? Even more subliminal!! I actually did see that one! I managed to catch most of the numbers references in the show actually (well, a good few of them anyway); completely missed the cheerleaders though, even though I've probably watched that episode the most of the lot. :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 09, 2005, 12:06:51 AM Yeah, I notice most of the numbers, well more than the other stuff anyway.
23 and 42 are sort of lucky type numbers for me anyway, so before I knew about the whole 4 8 15 16 23 42 thing, I was thinking why do I keep seeing 23 & 42 everywhere in this programme, it freaked me out for a while. I wonder where the other numbers come from? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 09, 2005, 01:34:29 PM tonight is the night guys. gonna be out on the piss and then download it when i get in, should only take an hour so will watch it drunk 2nite and then watch it again tomorrow morning. very much looking forward to it. would have been better if i had self control and hadn't seen spoliers like.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 09, 2005, 01:42:48 PM Yeah, the spoilers have pretty much ruined the main twist in this episode before it's even been aired. Shame.
With a bit of luck Abrams and Lindelof have some kind of other major plot twist up their sleeves for this one that they've actually managed to keep quiet. I doubt it though. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 09, 2005, 01:49:26 PM in the first series there was apparently gonna be a flashback thriugh the eyes of vincent which would show us someones hidden side but this was leaked so they cut it. shame really, but all spoilers are not always correct i guess. some are actually thrown out there to keep us guessing. pretty sure the death spoilers are nailed on like. shame as you say , but nothing could ruin this show for me really. well apart from locke or jin dying,
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Sargey on November 09, 2005, 02:19:44 PM Yeah, I notice most of the numbers, well more than the other stuff anyway. 23 and 42 are sort of lucky type numbers for me anyway, so before I knew about the whole 4 8 15 16 23 42 thing, I was thinking why do I keep seeing 23 & 42 everywhere in this programme, it freaked me out for a while. I wonder where the other numbers come from? Aren't they Hurley's winning lottery numbers? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 09, 2005, 06:13:05 PM I meant where did the writers get them from.
The only thing I've read is that the NY Yankees have retired each of those numbers. (I think it's the yankees, some base ball team, can't be arsed to go and check now) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 09, 2005, 09:08:23 PM Anyone know how to work the channel 4 lost site?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 09, 2005, 09:28:02 PM I meant where did the writers get them from. I think I heard somewhere that the numbers they chose to use were the real life lottery numbers of one of the program's directors/cast members or something. I think it might have been Jorge Garcia (who plays Hurley). Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 09, 2005, 10:56:52 PM Just been watching the episode where charlie shoots Ethan again and i must say, Jack beat the SHI T out of Ethan. He battered him. Yer anyway. Looking forward to tonight
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 10, 2005, 01:54:51 AM In 5 minutes time 20,000,000 people in the US of A will be watching this.
The bastards. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 10, 2005, 01:11:04 PM Okay, I've just watched episode 6. First of all, if people want to discuss the major "event" in the episode, can they maybe post it in white text until tomorow or saturday so that everyone can see it first?
Right. Despite the fact that the ending should have been completely ruined by all the spoilers floating about, it was actually utterly, UTTERLY fantastic. In fact, the whole episode was utterly fantastic. Right upto the standards of anything from season one (even 'Walkabout', 'Exodus', 'Do no Harm' etc. In fact it possibly surpassed them all); just SO well written and perfectly acted. To say that the last couple of episodes have been the calm before the storm would be the biggest understatement in the history of mankind. I want next week's episode (which is specially extended, by the way!) RIGHT NOW. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 10, 2005, 01:41:48 PM 90% - I'll be watching soon! blueyes.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 10, 2005, 03:46:37 PM wondeful stuff. mr eko is a sensation and jin and sawyer continue to be quality. michael also went up in my estimation. no jack or kate which was a bonus, some more locke pearls of wisdom, shannon and claire looking hot, a great ending and some hints at great future flashbacks. generally a quality episode, wouldn't completely agree with andy's wankfest of an analysis but he seems to know his lost so i understand his excitement and enthusiasm. the other 48 days, collision and what kate did look like they are gonna be very good indeed.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 10, 2005, 03:56:00 PM wouldn't completely agree with andy's wankfest of an analysis but he seems to know his lost so i understand his excitement and enthusiasm. :tongue3: Nah, despite the enthusiasm in my previous post, I thought that the episode was actually quite slow at times. Shannon's flashbacks were fairly nafftastic and didn't really cover anything new; and the whole Charlie/choice between baby and drugs thing is starting to arise, which I think will really suck if/when it does happen. It's just covering old teritory. I didn't like that we saw NOTHING from the hatch at all this week either, and NOTHING from Kate and Jack (apart from briefly in the hospital, but that doesn't count), and the story didn't really progress at all other than in the obvious areas. The ending WAS outstanding though, but without it the episode would have actually only been a fairly normalish one at best. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 10, 2005, 07:20:17 PM Right, some disjointed observations/thoughts from the episode. Some BIG spoilers here, so it's in white:
- The death. First of all, we don't actually see that Shannon is dead yet. Something tells me that episode 8 may focus on some kind of decision Jack'll have to make between saving either Sawyer or Shannon. In that scenario, his feelings for Kate would probably force him to save Sawyer. Secondly, it was made to look that Shannon was shot by Ana Lucia. Lost is rarely that simple however. I suspect that Shannon could have already been attacked by one of "the others", and Ana Lucia arived on the scene at around the same time, and fired the shot at the attacker. This is reinforced by what appears to be a gash in shannon's body, rather than a 9mm bullet wound which should be there: lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x06-abandoned/9/abandoned-cap863.jpg There's a good chance that nobody else was in the area when the shot was fired; after all, they (the tail sectioners) were fleeing from "the others", at the time, and as the rest of them were carrying Sawyer, it's very likely that Ana Lucia was quite far in front of them. I think that episode 8, which is focused around Ana Lucia, and is the next progression in the storyline (7 is "the other 48 days") could be based around her trying to prove to the other survivors that it wasn't her who killed Shannon. - As I said earlier, I thought Shannon's flashback's were pretty average; but I did like the flashback at the funeral where we first saw Boone, and in particular the conversation between himself and Shannon : Boone: Death sucks doesn't it? Shannon: Boone! Boone: I'm sorry Shannon Shannon: You came back! Very cleverly written, especially when she was looking at his grave at the time. Those lines are also effective after her death too - as if he was talking to her in an afterlife or something; "death sucks doesn't it?"... - This is unconfirmed, but according to what I've read elsewhere Walt said to Shannon and Sayid; "They're coming, and they're close". This is interesting. Who's coming? The tail section survivors? The others? Either way I think this was a warning to Shannon. - Again, as I said earlier; not a single line from Jack or Kate. This must be a first for the show - and it'll be continued in next week's episode as well. If anything, it at least proves that the show doesn't need to rely on it's two "main" main characters to drag it along. That can't be said of many other shows. - Mr Echo is now officially my second favourite character; him and Locke are going to be awesome together. Jin's also grown on me of late, and I even started to like Michael in this episode. He's not so bad when he's not screaming "WALT! WALT! WAAAAAAAALT! WAAAAAAAAALTER! WHERE ARE YOU WALT!?" over and over again like a psycho. That's about all I can think of for now :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 10, 2005, 10:08:42 PM once again andy your opinions on lost are outstanding. locke and eko will be quality and jin is also great. michael has improved once the screaming has stopped as well. the next three episodes, -the other 48 days, collision and what kate will no doubt be great.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 11, 2005, 04:18:06 PM Well I have to say that it didn't live up to the hype for me. I was expecting it to really kick off and it didn't, maybe it will next week.
Also, what happened to the "hard core others action" people were talking about (not on here, but elsewhere)? Did "it all change"? Nah not really. Here's hoping for next week though. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 11, 2005, 04:56:42 PM I hadn't heard anything about "hardcore others action" for that episode - next episode, yes, but not this one.
This episode was hyped up around the major bit at the end, and that alone. The action will come later in the series - you have to remember that we're only upto episode SIX... remember how little we knew by episode six last season, 'House of the Rising Sun' - the hatch and 'the others' didn't even EXIST at that stage. At the moment it's progressing nicely enough, even though they're still only introducing and setting up the plotlines for this season. The action and the answers will come later. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 11, 2005, 05:49:28 PM it appears that there are more than 1 set of others. the ones who live in the jungle were described by ana-lucia as animals while the ones who took walt were anything but. maybe the ones who took walt were part of the group who ran the initiative associated with the hatch or possibly descendents of the black rock survivors while the jungle others are natives of the islands. who knows? this show is immense!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 11, 2005, 06:14:32 PM it appears that there are more than 1 set of others. the ones who live in the jungle were described by ana-lucia as animals while the ones who took walt were anything but. maybe the ones who took walt were part of the group who ran the initiative associated with the hatch or possibly 1) descendents of the black rock survivors 2)while the jungle others are natives of the islands. who knows? this show is immense! 1) Where'd they get the boat? 2) Their feet didn't look much like those of natives of the South Pacific islands. I agree with you about there being more than one set of others, I think some of them will turn out to have something to do with Danielle. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 11, 2005, 06:42:42 PM fair points. but in all fairness, is it every proven to be a south pacific island. for example the nigerian plane suggests they are closer to africa or even that the island moves, (very out there but thats what my housemate thinks). overall, the general behaviour and description of the jungle others suggests they are tribal and therefore must be from the island.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 11, 2005, 06:52:38 PM fair points. but in all fairness, is it every proven to be a south pacific island. for example the nigerian plane suggests they are closer to africa or even that the island moves, (very out there but thats what my housemate thinks). overall, the general behaviour and description of the jungle others suggests they are tribal and therefore must be from the island. I think there's a possibility they might be from the plane as well and have simply become tribal, Lord Of The Flies style. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 11, 2005, 06:59:16 PM nah i don't see that. apparently three of the ana-lucia survivors were taken on the first night which means the others could not have had time to descent into tribal form in that time, while also they are very smart and don't leave trails which suggests they know the jungle as its their home. i dunno, the writers can throw in pretty much anything and explain it very well.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 11, 2005, 07:00:41 PM nah i don't see that. apparently three of the ana-lucia survivors were taken on the first night which means the others could not have had time to descent into tribal form in that time, while also they are very smart and don't leave trails which suggests they know the jungle as its their home. i dunno, the writers can throw in pretty much anything and explain it very well. Yeah, forgot about that. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: allmo4001 on November 11, 2005, 09:36:22 PM But what do they want with Walts "power". And also I think that there is only one set of others who may get the Ana lucia described monster things to do there bidding. They may be the Hatch Ophera? association but i doubt that . They may all have phsycological powers and and used the numbers to get the right people on the plane and used there powers to crash it or atleast deter its radar and communications OR there maybe another underground building what may be able to affect planes like a transmitter.
Jut random ideas basicly. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 12, 2005, 11:30:42 AM I want to write something in white but can only find every other colour. Someone help!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 12, 2005, 11:31:28 AM Testing
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 12, 2005, 11:31:59 AM Code: [color=white]text here[/color] Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 12, 2005, 11:34:01 AM OK sorted. The rest is in white...
SO who thinks that it was Ana Lucia who shot Shannon? Whats everyones theories? Is Shannon Dead? Was it Danielle who killed Shannon? Does Sayid's voice piss you off? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 12, 2005, 03:15:53 PM I was trying to work out who "Cindy" was. The one who disappeared from the group towards the end of the episode, seemingly taken by the others. Well, she was a flight attendant on the plane! She was first seen in episode 1 of series 1 (she slipped Jack 2 bottles of alcohol) and has appeared in 6 episodes all together. I've a feeling we may be seeing her again and I don't just mean in "The Other 48 days".
(https://tviv.org/w/images/b/ba/Lost-Cindy.JPG) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 13, 2005, 03:36:55 PM The Canadian version of the episode 7 preview is available on the link below; it's a bit more revealing than the American one, and obviously contains spoliers:
https://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DXUAJJU194JJ0YR5MC62ZOYDV The line from Ana-Lucia at the end :shock: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 13, 2005, 06:20:56 PM The Canadian version of the episode 7 preview is available on the link below; it's a bit more revealing than the American one, and obviously contains spoliers: https://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DXUAJJU194JJ0YR5MC62ZOYDV The line from Ana-Lucia at the end :shock: bluebigeek.gif Bloody hell! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 13, 2005, 06:24:14 PM great work on the preview andy. been looking for the canada one, although not as hard as i should have obviously. much better than the us preview. very ominous.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 13, 2005, 06:45:16 PM Spoiler in white below;
It certainly draws on the idea that all the passengers were somehow "selected" with their being a list of their names seemingly already on the island. Plus it would seem a lot of dead bodies that weren't on the plane. The rest of the French women's group perhaps that she murdered? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 14, 2005, 11:33:41 AM A few interesting images, now that everybody should have seen the previous episode...
First of all, a better version of the one I posted earlier of Shannon's wound: (https://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/stab_02-784928.jpg) SURELY that is a knife wound, not a 9mm gun shot wound? It could also just be REALLY bad make-up work that they thought we'd all miss, of course. Secondly, this image shows whatever it is that's in the killers left hand, and it's NOT a pistol: (https://sier.home.comcast.net/sword.gif) Thirdly, a picture of what is apparently one of "the others", taken from the american preview: https://tinypic.com/fkmces.jpg There's a video file of the above image in motion here: https://media.putfile.com/other1 The Hanso Foundation website (which is owned by ABC) has also been updated to contain the following two letters: (https://www.thehansofoundation.org/images/ltr_press.gif) and... (https://www.thehansofoundation.org/images/ltr_who.gif) What's most interesting is that the dates on these letters are 2005 - not 2004, where Lost is set. Again this could just be a mistake, OR, it could confirm that research by the HF is still taking place on the island upto a year in the future from where they are now. Riveting stuff :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 14, 2005, 11:47:33 AM I don't want to be too anal, but in the first letter, what has the average life of chimps in captivity got to do with the life time of an Orangutan?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 14, 2005, 11:57:05 AM In the moving image you've posted above, who's that holding Shannon in the background? It looks like Sayid, if so, he's looking straight at the person in the foreground and so if that's the killer he would know who it is.
Also, although the thing hanging down fro the person's hand doesn't look much like a gun, the thing that emerges from behind the hand does look like a gun barrel to me. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 14, 2005, 12:05:59 PM Quote Also, although the thing hanging down fro the person's hand doesn't look much like a gun, the thing that emerges from behind the hand does look like a gun barrel to me. Possibly, but it looks a lot larger and longer than A-L's pistol. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on November 14, 2005, 07:57:34 PM Quote Also, although the thing hanging down fro the person's hand doesn't look much like a gun, the thing that emerges from behind the hand does look like a gun barrel to me. Possibly, but it looks a lot larger and longer than A-L's pistol. Arm's a bit muscualr-looking to be AL's, too. Andy where do you get these finds? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 14, 2005, 08:20:20 PM Andy where do you get these finds? Most of them are from lost-forum.com, and some are things I've just noticed myself during periods of boredom at work. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 14, 2005, 08:53:46 PM Quote Also, although the thing hanging down fro the person's hand doesn't look much like a gun, the thing that emerges from behind the hand does look like a gun barrel to me. Possibly, but it looks a lot larger and longer than A-L's pistol. Arm's a bit muscualr-looking to be AL's, too. Andy where do you get these finds? I noticed that as well. My point wasn't that it was A-L who shot her only that it looked like a gun to me, in fact it looks more like a rifle with a strap dangling from it each time I look at it..... .....Danielle perhaps? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 14, 2005, 09:09:59 PM Okay, the official line on the death. I suppose this contains spoilers for episode 8, so in white:
I'm kinda pissing on my own parade here I suppose - but it appears that Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, in their latest podcast on the ABC website, have confirmed that Shannon WAS shot, DOES die and it WAS Ana-Lucia who did it. Bloody spoilsports :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 14, 2005, 09:15:18 PM You and your bloody spoilers!! You make them sooooooo tempting by putting them in white and then I just have to read them!!
Damn you sir!! Damn you and your dastardly tempting ways!! Damn You!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 14, 2005, 09:16:01 PM Got a bit carried away there, sorry.
Too much Simpsons I'm afraid. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 14, 2005, 09:22:27 PM Yeah well, the producers spoiled it for me; so I think it's only right that I spoil it for everyone else out of vengeance ;)
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 14, 2005, 09:27:41 PM US TV networks are notorious for shamelessly ripping off each other's successful formulas, so does anyone know what the other networks are doing in response to Lost?
Some of the rip offs are often quite good. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on November 14, 2005, 09:54:29 PM The mural in the hatch also brings curiousity. Here is a rendering of the clear parts of the mural:
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/fitz619/LOST.jpg In the bottom right corner, If you assume the 'eye' to be read as "I," the "M" to be read as "am," the mural may portary the message "I am sick," or even, if you throw the house picture in there "I am home sick." Something else surprising about the mural, it is strangely altered between episodes. https://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iamsickmural0ah.jpg The "sick" part of the mural has been altered and is now difficult to decipher. https://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iamsickiamwellmural5rs.jpg Perhaps it now reads: "I am well" blueconfused.gif Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on November 14, 2005, 10:01:06 PM Thirdly, a picture of what is apparently one of "the others", taken from the american preview: https://tinypic.com/fkmces.jpg There's a video file of the above image in motion here: https://media.putfile.com/other1 Also, while I'm on about the mural, it's interesting to notice that the apparent 'face' of the other that you mentioned above bears some resemblance to a face in the mural: https://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adriftmural1fg.jpg Of course, I could be stretching this a little bit, but it does send the mind racing... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 14, 2005, 10:29:49 PM The mural in the hatch also brings curiousity. Here is a rendering of the clear parts of the mural: https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/fitz619/LOST.jpg In the bottom right corner, If you assume the 'eye' to be read as "I," the "M" to be read as "am," the mural may portary the message "I am sick," or even, if you throw the house picture in there "I am home sick." Something else surprising about the mural, it is strangely altered between episodes. https://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iamsickmural0ah.jpg The "sick" part of the mural has been altered and is now difficult to decipher. https://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iamsickiamwellmural5rs.jpg Perhaps it now reads: "I am well" blueconfused.gif Good spot. Hadn't seen that before. I think it's probably just a case of the producers throwing something in for those of us who are sad enough (;)) to trawl through each episode frame by frame to find clues and stuff. A bit like the mirrored hatch living room from episode one: (https://img321.imageshack.us/img321/3762/mirrored1cb.jpg) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on November 14, 2005, 10:40:40 PM Little (well, much) more in-depth with the mural:
https://www.cs.iastate.edu/~andorfc/iowa_mural.html Gets very interesting toward the bottom with the mural resembling the art of other characters... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 15, 2005, 12:25:50 AM If anyone wants to listen to the podcasts I mentioned above by the way, you can do so here:
https://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts.html As I said earlier, the second one contains some spoilerage, but nothing massive. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on November 15, 2005, 07:05:01 PM (Mainly directed at Andy)
I don't know if you noticed this, but I was just looking back on S1 Ep1, watching the turbine blow up in DVD on slow-mo, to confirm the image you posted some time back for myself. I kept it running in slow-mo, and as the man is sucked into the turbine, you can see a similar 'shadow' that appears to push the man into the turbine with force. Creepy, but I'm sure someone's seen it before. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 15, 2005, 08:05:27 PM (Mainly directed at Andy) I don't know if you noticed this, but I was just looking back on S1 Ep1, watching the turbine blow up in DVD on slow-mo, to confirm the image you posted some time back for myself. I kept it running in slow-mo, and as the man is sucked into the turbine, you can see a similar 'shadow' that appears to push the man into the turbine with force. Creepy, but I'm sure someone's seen it before. I remember when I watched that first I thought, that looks a bit fake, the way that guy just seemed to jump into the engine, anyway that might explain it. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 15, 2005, 09:42:14 PM Few more images:
This one shows Locke holding a mysterious green item just before his second conversation with Claire (about 20 minutes in). When Claire talks to him, he quickly moves the object out of sight. Later, we see a green marking on a tree behind Ana-Lucia's group: (https://img15.imgspot.com/u/05/316/21/lostlockegreen1131935744.jpg) Co-incidence? Could Locke have been following them for some reason? Secondly, this is from Exodus 2; just after Kate chucks a stick of dynamite down the hole at "the monster": (https://img264.echo.cx/img264/9515/enhanceeyes7aj.jpg) You can clearly see two faces in amongst the smoke. Finally, I'll only link to this one because it's from the next episode and contains SPOILERS: https://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/48days/48days-promo12.jpg Recognise anything from that image? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: allmo4001 on November 15, 2005, 09:48:22 PM is that little picture based on lost or AL not in lost.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 15, 2005, 09:49:43 PM It's from tomorrow night's episode.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 15, 2005, 11:27:17 PM Read this elsewhere; it's supposedly from a highly reputable source, and is basically a summary of what happens in episode 8: Collision, without really spoiling too much (i.e. nothing about Shannon etc). I'll stick it in white:
Ana-Lucia's group take Sawyer to the hatch so that Jack can see to him. He practically dies. He is suffering, like the marshall. Ana is all for a mercy killing but Jack refuses. At one point Ana says "I'm taking over", and tries a violent take-over of the hatch using the guns from the armory. However she's cut short when Desmond shows up out of the blue; fans who have been waiting to see Ana-Lucia get put in her place will finally see it. Jack questions Desmond about the medicine, Desmond says it will help, but that Sawyer has "bigger" problems than the infection. The episode's flashbacks explain how Ana lost her job as a cop, and why she was in Australia prior to the crash." Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 15, 2005, 11:38:16 PM How's about this for a bit of a crappy theory:
The Lost of the title doesn't refer to the survivors themselves, but to aspects of their life/personality, ie they've all got something missing from their lives. When they find it they die. Boone: Had lost his independence (from Shannon), he finds it, he dies. Shannon: Had never found true love, she finds it (with Sayid), she dies. It's a bit crappy, I know but what do you think. I've got it into my head that the title "Lost" has more to it than them simply being lost on the island, if it doesn't it would be just about the only thing that doesn't have more to it, on the entire show. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on November 16, 2005, 02:29:39 AM Few more images: This one shows Locke holding a mysterious green item just before his second conversation with Claire (about 20 minutes in). When Claire talks to him, he quickly moves the object out of sight. Later, we see a green marking on a tree behind Ana-Lucia's group: (https://img15.imgspot.com/u/05/316/21/lostlockegreen1131935744.jpg) Co-incidence? Could Locke have been following them for some reason? Secondly, this is from Exodus 2; just after Kate chucks a stick of dynamite down the hole at "the monster": (https://img264.echo.cx/img264/9515/enhanceeyes7aj.jpg) You can clearly see two faces in amongst the smoke. Finally, I'll only link to this one because it's from the next episode and contains SPOILERS: https://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/48days/48days-promo12.jpg Recognise anything from that image? That's the first time I've seen the smoke faces and the mark on the tree. The smoke's really chilling. However, about the linked pic I think that it's common knowledge already that the others took the children, so that's not too surprising for me to see them holding that. I'm upset that tomorrow I have to miss the episode in the states! I'll have to download it like you lot. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 16, 2005, 01:57:37 PM Interview with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse:
https://www.tvguide.com/News/AskAusiello/default.htm?rmDate=11162005 Quite an interesting read. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: No Quarter on November 16, 2005, 02:10:52 PM After reading that I think it's pretty certain that Eko was blind and cured when he got to the island, Locke Style.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 16, 2005, 06:48:53 PM After reading that I think it's pretty certain that Eko was blind and cured when he got to the island, Locke Style. It doesn't look much like a blind man's stick though. I actually think he used to be dumb. Ana Lucia said to him in the last episode, "I liked you better when you weren't talking." Good interview that. White:We WILL find out why the plane crashed! Yippee! :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 17, 2005, 05:28:15 PM Well last night's episode was a bit good...
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 17, 2005, 07:36:11 PM Well last night's episode was a bit good... Downloading it now. Still 3 hours to go! blueupset.gif Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 17, 2005, 07:40:25 PM My thoughts on "the other 48 days", in white:
- "Specially extended", what all FOUR minutes? WOW, how generous of you. This episode should really have been at least 60 minutes long; more time should have been spent studying the group dynamic of the tailies, and more time should have been given to the other characters, rather than it being almost 90% A-L centric. Some it felt a far too quick-paced, especially the days with only one scene. - The introduction was top class, very reminiscent of the pilot episode. Though I have NO IDEA how a large chunk of the plane managed to stay in one piece after hitting the water at the speed it did. - The scenes with Goodwin and Ana Lucia were well done; Nathan was a well designed character, and I never saw the twist coming. Goodwin said the others only wanted "good people", what the hell does that mean? - Mr Echo (Eko, whatever) continues to improve; you can tell he's going to be an excellent character, and I'm looking forward to his flashbacks. I took the advice of Lindelof and Cuse and kept an eye on his stick; he seemed to be carving something into it, but I'm not sure what? - Ana Lucia grew on me a bit, if just for the fact that she managed to dig a MASSIVE hole in the ground in only 2 (TWO!) days. Commendable achievment. - The ending was well done, very suspenseful. It would have been better if Ana Lucia hadn't been confirmed as the killer, but never mind. It should work this way as well. Enjoyed this episode quite a lot overall, next weeks should be good as well going by the preview/what I posted on the previous page. We're approaching the middle section of the season now; the plotlines have been set, and this is where it should start to really get going. Woohoo. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 17, 2005, 08:00:45 PM Just got it, wahey!!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 17, 2005, 08:02:57 PM Andy you b******! You know I'll read that before it's finished downloading! :lol:
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 17, 2005, 08:10:42 PM Don't do it resist.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: allmo4001 on November 17, 2005, 09:39:40 PM Unlike you Andy i thought the godwin incedint was very predictable but also very well done and was better than thought. But why didnt AL know before the Nathan incident when she clearly states it to Godwin.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 17, 2005, 10:38:56 PM Yeah, it felt a bit rushed to me, they could have done it much better with two episodes, a lot of it felt a bit like an extended "catch-up" sequence in parts.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 18, 2005, 12:17:08 AM Episode 8 previews:
USA - https://rapidshare.de/files/7746961/02x08-Collision_promo_video.WMV.html Canada - https://rapidshare.de/files/7747214/02x08-Collision_promo_video-cdn.WMV.html Question. (in white) How come Ana-Lucia's gun has another bullet in it? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 18, 2005, 04:00:05 PM Eh?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 18, 2005, 04:04:40 PM Eh? Is that an "Eh?" at me, or an "Eh?" at the preview?Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 18, 2005, 04:09:26 PM An eh at your question, how did you notice that?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 18, 2005, 04:13:56 PM An eh at your question, how did you notice that? In white: The gun was supposed to only have one bullet in it (as they've mentioned plenty of times in the last few episodes), she shot that bullet at Shannon. The gun is empty. However, in the preview, she somehow fires another bullet at someone/something. All I can think of is that it's a different gun maybe (Sayid's?), but I'm not sure how she'd get a hold of it... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 18, 2005, 04:26:41 PM Oh right, now I understand.
I'm trying to stay away from the previews, they give too much away. A good preview should draw you in without giving the plot away, but the lost ones just spoil the next episode for me. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 18, 2005, 04:33:22 PM I'm trying to stay away from the previews, they give too much away. A good preview should draw you in without giving the plot away, but the lost ones just spoil the next episode for me. I don't think they give that much away; they're usually quite misleading actually. For instance, this one from season one makes Michael look like a raving axe murder: https://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3TF60UJMWCRME2VHS01MZ6SYPZ And this one, also from season one, makes Locke look like he's been murdered by Sayid: https://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=29C0UP54XUVFN19SA8UAE4S3XC Very misleading. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 18, 2005, 04:39:36 PM Hotlinking not allowed on that server, apparently.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 18, 2005, 04:48:07 PM Fixed :banana:
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 18, 2005, 05:32:20 PM Ta
I see what you mean, those aren't that bad, but I remember one, although which one I'm not sure, which I watched and I felt it gave away too much, so I haven't watched them since. I don't mind speculating on what's going to happen, but I prefer not to know too much for certain. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 18, 2005, 07:07:13 PM Andy, did you read the "'Lost' in frustration" article on that site?
Now that's someone who doesn't get the concept of a mystery show. I think it was written by someone on the Chicago Sun-Times, probably a journo who thinks they have a devine right o know more than everyone else, but has not been told anything more in this instance and has thrown their toys out of the pram. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on November 18, 2005, 10:15:55 PM Where do you guys download the episodes from? Cant find it using my methods.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 18, 2005, 11:09:55 PM pm'd you.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 19, 2005, 12:38:20 AM Indigo you are a very helpful chappy! For Somereason I can't get to watch that review. Not sure what to think about the bullet in the gun situation. Could just be a real bad f*** up or that she didn't shoot shannon. But we all know she did so f*** knows. I'm just waitnig for Mr Eko and Locke to get a tag team together bluesky.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 19, 2005, 04:18:03 PM Andy, did you read the "'Lost' in frustration" article on that site? Now that's someone who doesn't get the concept of a mystery show. I think it was written by someone on the Chicago Sun-Times, probably a journo who thinks they have a devine right o know more than everyone else, but has not been told anything more in this instance and has thrown their toys out of the pram. Haha, yeah, there's nothing like completely missing the point. If they were to answer everything now, what exactly would they do for the rest of the show? When they finally come, the answers will probably be rubbish and predictable anyway; that's why the show's about the journey, not the destination. Unfortunately, some people don't realise this. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 19, 2005, 07:01:20 PM Just watched the last episode again; spotters badges to anyone who can spot the driver of a white car arrogantly driving into camera shot during one of the scenes. bluebiggrin.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 19, 2005, 07:05:10 PM Just watched the last episode again; spotters badges to anyone who can spot the driver of a white car arrogantly driving into camera shot during one of the scenes. bluebiggrin.gif In a flash back or on the island? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 19, 2005, 07:08:12 PM Well, the whole episode was set on the island, and it was all a flashback; so... Both I suppose. :wink:
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 19, 2005, 07:09:44 PM And theres a white car in 1 of the scenes?
How the f*** did I miss that! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 19, 2005, 07:16:35 PM Well, it's in the background, and it's only there for a split second. I can see why you'd miss it.
It's about 33.34 minutes in (on my version), when Ana is talking to Goodwin about the Others not wearing shoes. Look closely at the trees in the background. You'll probably only see it if you play it frame-by-frame on fullscreen. Could also be a polar bear I suppose ;) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 20, 2005, 11:00:41 AM Polar Bear driving?
Think your pushing it a bit there. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 20, 2005, 01:13:48 PM Out of interest, did anyone notice the winning numbers on the irish lottery last night?
4 8 15 16 23 24 :shock: So close... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 20, 2005, 02:48:51 PM If those numbers ever do come up it's going to freak so many people out!!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 21, 2005, 08:43:41 PM been away a couple of days, but still caught the other 48 days before i went. brilliant stuff.
mr eko battering those others with a rock was class, and hopefully we'll see that when his flashback arrives. enjoyed the goodwin twist as well, but i still believe nathan was an other as well, fits my theory that there are jungle others and the boat others. interesting stuff that goodwin said about the kids. that they were better off. possible utopian society with brainwashing maybe. very good episode indeed. answered plenty of questions and for the third week running i didn't have to put up with jack. listened to the first three podcasts as well and lindelof and cuse have some good stuff to say. worth a listen i would say. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 22, 2005, 12:02:09 AM Few interesting little tidbits:
Firstly, it appears that, for whatever reason, the weapon in Ana Lucia's left hand in "Abandoned" was edited out at the end of "The Other 48 Days". Compare these two images: Abandoned: (https://home.mchsi.com/%7Ecapandhunny/wsb/media/973900/site1080.gif) Other 48 Days: (https://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x07-48days/7/normal_48days-cap633.jpg) All I can say is: why? It seems daft to remove something just because viewers are discussing it. It was a good red herring, if nothing else. Secondly, a deleted scene from last wednesday's episode. Nothing particularly special, but quite interesting nonetheless: https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=396 Finally, a video link to that lotto draw I mentioned earlier in the thread: https://www.zippyvideos.com/6238189222340276/lostlottosmall/ People who play the numbers (and I know quite a few people do) must have been absolutely gutted, especially when 24 didn't come out 'til last bluelaugh.gif Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on November 24, 2005, 11:18:59 AM Anyone seen it yet then?
Im downloading now. By the way series 1 in england is getting better now. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on November 24, 2005, 03:49:43 PM Poor episode, in my eyes. Really learned nothing about the Island and way too focused on A-L. Spoilers below:
They confirmed that AL was a cop in her past (big surprise), and the only interesting thing in this episode was that AL was pregnant in her past and was shot while on duty, which killed her child. Anyone else notice Locke's crossword puzzle? Maybe some clues there, only really recognized two words: Gilgamesh and Enkidu, both of which are related to ancient religion (learned something in Religion 121) but didn't catch much else. Dissapointed to say the least. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 24, 2005, 05:36:04 PM The site I use to download it seems to be f***** at the moment or at least the search feature is!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 24, 2005, 05:38:54 PM Yeah, it's f*****.
I'll PM you, hold on. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 24, 2005, 08:24:36 PM Just watched the episode. Thought it was pretty good overall; obviously didn't really raise any questions or give any answers, but it nicely wrapped up the whole raft people returning home thing, Shannon's death, and the meeting of two groups.
I think the next few episodes will start to develop the island story again, to close-up the November sweeps in a similar way they did last year with Ethan kidnapping claire, and the discovery of the hatch. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 24, 2005, 08:26:27 PM The site I use to download it seems to be f***** at the moment or at least the search feature is! Still need a link? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 24, 2005, 08:59:53 PM Previews for episode 9; "What Kate Did":
US of A: https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x09promo-lg.zip Canadian https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x09promo-cdn.zip Both obviously contain spoilers, especially the Canadian one; to which the emoticon ":shock:" would be a MASSIVE understatement. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 24, 2005, 09:28:44 PM yeah agree with andy. decent episode, was always just gonna be tying things up. trailers look really good, although its strange the u.s makes a big deal on kate and the canada one places its emphasis on the hatch. looks like an action packed episode either way.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 24, 2005, 10:49:06 PM The site I use to download it seems to be f***** at the moment or at least the search feature is! Still need a link? Got it sorted thanks. Just finished downloading it and going to watch it tomorrow night. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: allmo4001 on November 26, 2005, 11:46:42 AM Just seen the spoiler, can't wait for the next episode.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 26, 2005, 03:49:41 PM Just been reading through this theory; one of the best I've read by a mile, and the writer could actually be on to something. Well worth a look:
https://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3377 Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 26, 2005, 05:46:22 PM A very good theory, well thought out, reminds me a bit of a film called Dark City see here:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118929/ Definately a film worth seeing, if you haven't already. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 27, 2005, 01:04:24 AM Have any of you been to https://www.bigspaceship1.com/ before? It's something to do with Lost although it's very cryptic. Every day or so the site changes, although there is always a picture and sometimes sound, the picture often links to another website. Today it links to:
https://www.thinkbabynames.com/keyword/0/katharos The title of the page is always in Morse code and often relates to Lost in some way, today it translates as: THREELITTLECHILDRENLAYININTHEBED TWOWERESICKANDTHEOTHERMOSTDEAD SENTFORTHEDOCTORTHEDOCTORSAIDFEEDTHOSECHILDRENONSHORTNINBRE AD Weird eh? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 27, 2005, 01:12:39 AM Woh!! Even more weird!!
I had a look at the source code for the bigspaceship1 site and saw the picture was at <img src="/images/14.gif"> so I typed in www.bigspaceship1.com/images and it took me here https://www.ieattapes.com/library/Safety%20Dance.mp3 which is some weird tune!?! Very stange. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 27, 2005, 01:19:02 AM Further hunting reveals that you can see all the different pictures that have been on the site by adding /images/?.gif were?=a number eg 1, 2 etc my personal favourite is this one no.9
(https://www.bigspaceship1.com/images/9.gif) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 27, 2005, 01:20:47 AM Another interesting one:
(https://www.bigspaceship1.com/images/13.gif) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 27, 2005, 01:22:50 PM That site isn't registered to ABC or Walt Disney, so you're wasting your time :tongue3:
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 27, 2005, 01:27:44 PM Yeah, I know, but it's linked to from some of their sites.
Going to watch the match now, details to follow. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 27, 2005, 04:40:31 PM Ok, on https://www.oceanicflight815.com/ (An ABC site) if you click on the beam of light you go to https://www.thehansofoundation.org/ which when it had something on it, used to link to www.bigspaceship1.com as there's nothing on the hansofoundation site at the moment I can no longer proove this, so you'll just have to take my word for it, or not.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 27, 2005, 05:07:50 PM Interesting, though i think it's probably just one of the production team taking the piss (hence not registering the site with ABC).
On another note, i want one of these (https://www.cafepress.com/blackrock.36281612) NOW. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 27, 2005, 05:22:18 PM You could make one of those so easily.
A bit of paper and a crappy pondshop clock, give me a tenner and I'll do one for you. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: chip2388 on November 27, 2005, 08:23:27 PM Right finallly caught up to you guys, so the next one is episode 8 right? Last episode i'd agree abit rushed, someone mentioned about the bit in the last series with the bears in the background? Had a look back couldn't see anything.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on November 27, 2005, 08:59:42 PM Right finallly caught up to you guys, so the next one is episode 8 right? Last episode i'd agree abit rushed, someone mentioned about the bit in the last series with the bears in the background? Had a look back couldn't see anything. No, the next one is episode 9. You're still one behind. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 27, 2005, 10:56:54 PM The names, dates and character-flashbacks of the next few episodes have been announced; there's still some confusion over the dates and order of the episodes though, so they could be inaccurate. In white anyway:
2.10 - "The 23rd Psalm" - Eko - 11/01/06 2.11 - "The Hunting Party" - Jack - 18/01/06 2.12 - "Fire and Water" - Charlie - 25/01/06 Six week wait for Eko's episode :( Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 27, 2005, 11:10:48 PM Bloody americans and their holiday breaks!!
What do they do at Christmas if they're not watching TV??? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 28, 2005, 03:06:44 PM Dunno. Like I said though, it's not 100% confirmed yet; TV.com still has an episode ("merged") listed as the 14th december, so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Jonny2J on November 28, 2005, 11:51:12 PM Another interesting one: is that meant to be the little boat on the last episode of series 1?(https://www.bigspaceship1.com/images/13.gif) Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 28, 2005, 11:59:47 PM Yeah, it looks like it to me.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Jonny2J on November 29, 2005, 12:00:58 AM Just been reading through this theory; one of the best I've read by a mile, and the writer could actually be on to something. Well worth a look: jesus that is good blueeek.gifhttps://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3377 Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 29, 2005, 08:39:40 PM that theory is quality, the guy must have so much time on his hands. really excited by what kate did, looks good. although 3 weeks off over xmas doesn't look good. the newest podcast alludes to some good stuff with eko and locke which excites me, some more desmond stuff and some interesting stuff on the orientation video. all good stuff.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 29, 2005, 08:47:39 PM Although 3 weeks off over xmas doesn't look good. It's double that though, which is even worse! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 29, 2005, 09:07:17 PM yeah sorry, my mistake. if the dates provided are right then it'll be 5 weeks because theres a week off after tomorrows episode. not looking forward to that.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 30, 2005, 10:55:23 PM right, tonights episode better be absolutely amazing because after that performance i'm ready to end it all. can;t even be arsed to post on the actual forum because its all been said. so i'm in here talking about the show that keeps me sane in times like this. sad i know but true.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 30, 2005, 10:59:15 PM It's the only thing that's keeping me going at hte moment.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 30, 2005, 10:59:16 PM Yeah, I've been watching Numbers on C4 just now to put tonight's shambles to the back of my mind. That ending with the hatch is still the best EVER.
From what I've heard, tonight's episode is really, REALLY good; with a massive cliffhanger at the end, going into the winter break. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on November 30, 2005, 11:01:00 PM Yeah, I've been watching Numbers on C4 just now to put tonight's shambles to the back of my mind. That ending with the hatch is still the best EVER. From what I've heard, tonight's episode is really, REALLY good; with a massive cliffhanger at the end, going into the winter break. Right, now I'm depressed again!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on November 30, 2005, 11:02:29 PM SACK THE SOU !!!!!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on November 30, 2005, 11:35:03 PM my favourite ending is Deux Ex Machina when locke's on the hatch and the light comes on. sheer brilliance. although i wacthed them all at once so i don;t know if numbers was prior to a large break which would increase its brilliance in terms of endings.
anyway, really hope tonight is quality and i believe it will be. lost never lets me down like newcastle do. maybe cos its managed by genius' like lindelof and j.j abrams and not by some stupid prick. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on November 30, 2005, 11:39:28 PM Yeah, that ending's brilliant too. When I first watched it I was like "WHAT THE SWEET BABY JESUS WAS THAT?!" now I'm like "Ah, there's good old Des switching the living room light on again".
Awesome. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 01, 2005, 12:39:27 AM Yeah, that ending's brilliant too. When I first watched it I was like "WHAT THE SWEET BABY JESUS WAS THAT?!" now I'm like "Ah, there's good old Des switching the living room light on again". Awesome. heh heh, yeah. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Bellars on December 01, 2005, 06:13:27 AM Tonight's episode was brilliant. It's safe to say that my faith in the show has been restored. Great character progression, perfect amount of plot revealed, interesting discoveries. HUGE cliffhanger at the end, which makes this a long long 6 weeks. You can't miss this episode.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 01, 2005, 08:47:50 AM my favourite ending is Deux Ex Machina when locke's on the hatch and the light comes on. sheer brilliance. although i wacthed them all at once so i don;t know if numbers was prior to a large break which would increase its brilliance in terms of endings. anyway, really hope tonight is quality and i believe it will be. lost never lets me down like newcastle do. maybe cos its managed by genius' like lindelof and j.j abrams and not by some stupid prick. That episode was shown in england last night. Best by far. Said the same about old Des aswell. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 01, 2005, 11:56:25 AM Just watched it. Seemed like it was shorter than normal. Kates flashbacks were pretty s***. Didnt understand about the horse. Good Ending
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 01, 2005, 03:02:50 PM Just watched the episode, thoughts in white:
Firstly, this episode was, for me, the strongest the season; it got back to the real island-devlopment/character interaction mix of stuff, reminiscent of last season, and it had great flashbacks, and a FANTASTIC, completely unexpected ending to boot. It was great to see the supernatural side of the island returning as well; with the appearence of the horse, and with Sawyer apparently being possesed by Wayne. It's just a nice change to get back to this sort of stuff, because we've had far too much science lately, and not enough mystery. The horse is obviously similar to the toy plane from "whatever the case may be" last season; we don't know nothing about it yet, but it'll have some sort of sentimental value to Kate. My guess is that it either belonged to Kate's father, mother, or Wayne; hence her being shocked to see it just after she kicked the marshal out of the the car (it wouldn't make sense for her to be shocked by just any old horse, out in the middle of the countryside, after all). Mr Eko and Locke were utterly, utterly brilliant, as expected. In fact, most of the characters who featured were at the top of the games in this episode; and Hurley got in his funniest line for a good while ("So.... Rose's husband's white huh..? Didn't see that coming."). Sawyer's wit has also returned, which is always a good thing. Overall, an immense episode; the show really is getting stronger by the week. And after watching the preview for the next episode, it's safe to say that this is going to be the longest christmas break EVER... PS. Did anyone else notice a familiar face on the TV in Kate's dad's army office? bluecool.gif Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on December 01, 2005, 03:28:13 PM 6 weeks!!! no way in hell!
saw the ending coming like but still good. great stuff in general. knew locke and eko would be a quality relationship. very excited about that. still hate jack with all my heart. locke should slit his throat i reckon like, he talks to him as if he's a kid. also the interaction between the tailies and the fuselage folk has been missed out tho. why is no-one asking about walt or the raft. just glossed over that one. still a great episode though and the trailer looks good. anyone got the canada trailer? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 01, 2005, 03:33:08 PM also the interaction between the tailies and the fuselage folk has been missed out tho. why is no-one asking about walt or the raft. just glossed over that one. I don't think they glossed over it; they just didn't show it. No doubt the characters would have been discussing it with one another off camera (so to speak); but it would have been a waste of the viewers time having to sit and watch them recap everything we already know. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on December 01, 2005, 03:40:01 PM yeah i see your point andy, but i think the tailies back story may have been better shown as them explaining their experiences to the rest of the group. suppose that would have cut down on flashback time and meant we didn;t understand their behaviour properly but they could have worked it i reckon. would have just fit better maybe. then again who am i to question the writers, they know best.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 01, 2005, 09:10:49 PM The more I see of the bunker the less 70s it looks, I asked ages ago if anyone noticed the brand new washer and dryer, but nobody replied, they were there again this week, did you see them? Also the kitchen area is not 70s style at all, it's practically brand new, so what's going on there??
I reckon when Dessie boy makes his re-entry that's when things are going to get really interesting, he's got some serious explaining to do!! Do you think he might be a plant? Or has he just been conned into pressing the button like they have now? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 02, 2005, 09:23:33 AM Do you know when our mate Des is coming back?
I miss the bloke. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 03, 2005, 01:48:21 AM bump
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 03, 2005, 02:34:01 AM Not sure, but he is apparently coming back soon.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 05, 2005, 06:44:26 PM Yeah, Lindelof and Cuse said on last weeks podcast that they'd like to have a Desmond flashback at some point in the near future, so he'll definately be back before too long.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 05, 2005, 11:23:32 PM Nice. Maybe he will come back next episode and explain about whats happening with the computer. He's my fav.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 06, 2005, 12:07:39 AM This is proably a stupid question and I could easily go to imdb and find out, but where do I recognise dessie from??
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on December 06, 2005, 02:32:33 AM Nice to see people are trying to keep the thread going through the barren weeks. in response to indigo's desmond question my mate says he was in the book group but i never watched it so i wouldn't know.
one of the major things i've been thinking about is at the end of this series, will the style of the show change. for example, after maybe 1 more jack, charlie, locke or kate flashback their story from before the island will be told. will we see flashbacks of them from on the island, things we didn't get shown or will they phase them out and show the backstories of other characters? on that note, mr.eko's backstory excites me. loving that guy. p.s. how ripped was jin! not gay or owt but my god! impressive stuff! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 06, 2005, 09:35:25 AM Mr Eko used to be a drug dealer. Honest. I see him with 50 Cent.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 07, 2005, 01:30:54 AM one of the major things i've been thinking about is at the end of this series, will the style of the show change. for example, after maybe 1 more jack, charlie, locke or kate flashback their story from before the island will be told. will we see flashbacks of them from on the island, things we didn't get shown or will they phase them out and show the backstories of other characters? Yeah, I've been thinking that too. At some point we're surely going to have a flashback from Claire, where her memory is returning, and we get to see what happened when Ethan kidnapped her - about how she managed to escape him and what have you. We also need one of Locke seeing the security system. They can't go on with the same old flashbacks over and over for another 2 or 3 seasons though; unless they introduce background characters, they'll either need to phase out the flashbacks, and start to use them more sparingly (one every few episodes or something), or go down a completely new path with them. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: ticaL on December 07, 2005, 04:55:29 PM Or add another bunch of characters...:S
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 08, 2005, 01:19:12 PM I just went looking for me weekly fix of lost and couldn't find it. I was thinking, "what's going on!! why's nobody sharing? GRRRR", then it dawned on me and now I'm thinking, "Bloody winter break!! Who has a winter break?? Six bloody weeks!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GRRRRRRRRRRR GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!"
Sigh. dum di dum di dum, I'll just sit here, twidling my thumbs, with nothing to do, whilst they all do whatever the hell it is they do over Christmas!! Message to America: I'M WAITING YOU KNOW!!! Chop!! Chop!! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 08, 2005, 02:41:20 PM Has anyone got a link for the preview of the next episode?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: chip2388 on December 08, 2005, 06:14:23 PM Anyone got a link to get episode 9?
Mine doesn't seem to be working Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 08, 2005, 06:20:41 PM Has anyone got a link for the preview of the next episode? https://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=408 Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 08, 2005, 07:08:52 PM New LOST! magazine out today so that'll keep me happy for a short while.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 08, 2005, 07:10:00 PM Has anyone got a link for the preview of the next episode? https://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=408 Any chance you could upload that again Andy? The file's expired. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 08, 2005, 07:16:53 PM No problem:
https://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LYZEW0Y7NY5C2RY1P624J1770 Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 08, 2005, 11:36:13 PM No problem: https://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LYZEW0Y7NY5C2RY1P624J1770 Cheers. By the way, I'm sure you must have heard about this although I don't hink it's been posted on here. Did you see the numbers for the Irish lottery the other week? 4 8 15 16 23 24 blueeek.gif Apparently there were 300 people with 5 correct numbers which is unheard of! Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 08, 2005, 11:38:07 PM Ooooh, good trailer!
One thing about Mr Echo (or however you spell it). Where are his bunny men?? I'll get me coat... shy.gif Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 09, 2005, 10:14:19 AM Next episode looks quality. Finally going to get an Eko flashback.
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 12, 2005, 12:34:48 AM There's been a distinct drop in the quality of the lost theories on www.oceanicflight815.com recently, anyone here got any new ones?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Decky on December 12, 2005, 11:28:26 AM this is a ****ing quality topic thumbup.gif
anyway, remember when Locke looked down the hatch and light came on? any news on that, im on Series 2 Episode 9 but i cant seem to remember much about that incident. Also when the guy in the hatch turns the lights on would i be right in saying the light shines up the tunnel and out the hatch door? if so how did Boone and Locke not see this before? This wasnt mentioned but what about the massive amounts on concrete blocking whatever it is its blocking? Was it the electromagnetic thing that pulled down the plane? The plane broke appart, it wasnt struck by anything, what the hell happened there? Also ever wonder, the plane was 1000miles off course, what are the chances of crashing on that Island? Jack was also a good bit in the jungle, he must have fell out of the plane, where was his seat, he was strapped in, also how the hell did he escape death and injury if he fell out of a bloody plane? Read through this btw, notice anything? https://pb-sales.com/news_20051101.htm Click on the underlined text here, 816 is weird https://oceanicworldair.com/flights.htm If go to this page https://www.oceanic-air.com and type in "THE" and "BOY" instead of "SYD and "LAX" and a small stripe will show up to the right of the screen, you can pull it out a bite then right-click on it and choose View Image. ps. In white, a spoiler for an upcoming episode (12 i think) Locke finds trouble walking while exploring the island; Eko and Sawyer find more than what they are looking for; and Ana-Lucia solves an old mystery. Also, there is the revelation on what happend to Helen and how Locke became paralyzed. Both events are connected. Also, Eko and Sawyer find a very badly injured Cindy in the jungle while searching for the black horse. While walking the beach, Ana-Lucia notices the cable, just like Sayid and Hurley, and follows it into the water to find an underwater hatch. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 12, 2005, 12:56:02 PM Oooh, that sounds good!
I like the advert you get when you click on the eye at the bottom of https://oceanicworldair.com/flights.htm "Oceanic Airlines - Taking you places you've never imagined" Nice touch. With regards to the light coming out of the hatch Decky, I think the only reason they hadn't realised it before was because they had never been there at night. Previously they had always worked on excavating it during the day. And yes, I think it is just Desmond turing on the living room light. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 12, 2005, 03:08:00 PM anyway, remember when Locke looked down the hatch and light came on? any news on that, im on Series 2 Episode 9 but i cant seem to remember much about that incident. Also when the guy in the hatch turns the lights on would i be right in saying the light shines up the tunnel and out the hatch door? if so how did Boone and Locke not see this before? It's probably just coincidence that they'd not seen it; the times they were digging up the hatch were probably the same times that Desmond was sleeping or whatever. Though he'd have to turn the light on at least once every 108 minutes you'd have thought, so it is strange. Quote This wasnt mentioned but what about the massive amounts on concrete blocking whatever it is its blocking? Was it the electromagnetic thing that pulled down the plane? The plane broke appart, it wasnt struck by anything, what the hell happened there? Also ever wonder, the plane was 1000miles off course, what are the chances of crashing on that Island? I personally don't think the electromagnetism brought the plane down, that would be too obvious; I think it was something else. As for it being 1000 miles off-course, and coincidentially crashing on the island... I don't think it was a coincidence. JJ Abrams said that both things would be answered this season, so at least we shouldn't have too long to wait. Quote Jack was also a good bit in the jungle, he must have fell out of the plane, where was his seat, he was strapped in, also how the hell did he escape death and injury if he fell out of a bloody plane? This is something which has interested me from the very begining. It was either simply for dramatic effect (i.e. waking up in the middle of nowhere, huge trees looming overhead - immediately signifying that he was "lost"), or there could be more to it. I think it's the former though. Quote ps. In white, a spoiler for an upcoming episode (12 i think) Locke finds trouble walking while exploring the island; Eko and Sawyer find more than what they are looking for; and Ana-Lucia solves an old mystery. Also, there is the revelation on what happend to Helen and how Locke became paralyzed. Both events are connected. Also, Eko and Sawyer find a very badly injured Cindy in the jungle while searching for the black horse. While walking the beach, Ana-Lucia notices the cable, just like Sayid and Hurley, and follows it into the water to find an underwater hatch. Yeah, I read this on another site. Immediately debunked by Damon Lindelof confirming that they hadn't even finished writing episode 12 yet, unfortunately. The bit about the cable seems pretty far fetched anyway (even for LOST), I think it's more likely to be a power source for something altogether bigger (radio tower perhaps). Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on December 12, 2005, 04:02:55 PM the light in the hatch comes on when desmond looks through the telescope, turning the light on and it reflecting off the mirror. he only turns that light on to observe the entrance to the hatch so he would rarely put it on unless he thought something was going on with the entrance. maybe he heard locke on the hatch and turned it on to see what was going on?
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 12, 2005, 04:24:15 PM Yeah, you're right actually. Strange that he didn't hear the trebuchet SMASHING against it earlier on in the day though :tongue3:
On another note, Ive just being reading back through the thread and noticed this: That's what I was thinking; maybe Desmond has been assigned there to protect something (by entering the numbers), and "him" is the person who has to take over the job from Desmond after a certain period of time? I noticed that Kate ate the chocolate bar after checking the expiry date on it's wrapper; so that alone suggests that either Desmond hasn't been down there for that long, or at least that he gets re-supplied every so often. It was strange though, that he said "So.. There's still a world out there?!", when Locke was talking about the plane crash. Suggests he was maybe brought to the hatch initially under the belief that the world was about to end or something. Not too far away :cool: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 12, 2005, 08:45:38 PM Couple of theories:
1. They wake up and it was all a dream 2. There in pergatory (forgive me if I spelt that wrong) 3. Beadles About All strong theories Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: captainhaircut on December 12, 2005, 09:08:49 PM the writers/producers have already said it ain't a dream or purgatory so those theories are out. theories at this point are far fetched to say the least. i heard that they planned for 5 series so we should know something by about half way throught the fifth!!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 12, 2005, 09:13:54 PM My first two wernt serious
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 12, 2005, 09:35:33 PM My first two wernt serious I thought the third was the most likely. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 13, 2005, 06:18:22 PM Upcoming episode titles/character flashbacks (white):
2.10 - The 23rd Psalm (a.k.a. Merged) - Eko - 11/01/06 2.11 - The Hunting Party - Jack - 18/01/06 2.12 - Fire & Water - Charlie - 25/01/06 2.13 - Admissions - Locke - 01/02/06 2.14 - Vindication - Sayid - 08/02/06 2.15 - Incognito - Sawyer - 15/02/06 Mostly subject to change at this stage, however. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 13, 2005, 06:31:00 PM Heh, how utterly awesome is this:
https://widgets.yahoo.com/gallery/view.php?widget=37833 I feel just like Desmond :cool: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 13, 2005, 08:36:23 PM Yeah, you're right actually. Strange that he didn't hear the trebuchet SMASHING against it earlier on in the day though :tongue3: On another note, Ive just being reading back through the thread and noticed this: That's what I was thinking; maybe Desmond has been assigned there to protect something (by entering the numbers), and "him" is the person who has to take over the job from Desmond after a certain period of time? I noticed that Kate ate the chocolate bar after checking the expiry date on it's wrapper; so that alone suggests that either Desmond hasn't been down there for that long, or at least that he gets re-supplied every so often. It was strange though, that he said "So.. There's still a world out there?!", when Locke was talking about the plane crash. Suggests he was maybe brought to the hatch initially under the belief that the world was about to end or something. Not too far away :cool: Geek. :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 13, 2005, 08:37:29 PM the writers/producers have already said it ain't a dream or purgatory so those theories are out. theories at this point are far fetched to say the least. i heard that they planned for 5 series so we should know something by about half way throught the fifth!! So they haven't ruled out Beadle's About yet then?? :lol: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 13, 2005, 08:42:24 PM Yeah, you're right actually. Strange that he didn't hear the trebuchet SMASHING against it earlier on in the day though :tongue3: On another note, Ive just being reading back through the thread and noticed this: That's what I was thinking; maybe Desmond has been assigned there to protect something (by entering the numbers), and "him" is the person who has to take over the job from Desmond after a certain period of time? I noticed that Kate ate the chocolate bar after checking the expiry date on it's wrapper; so that alone suggests that either Desmond hasn't been down there for that long, or at least that he gets re-supplied every so often. It was strange though, that he said "So.. There's still a world out there?!", when Locke was talking about the plane crash. Suggests he was maybe brought to the hatch initially under the belief that the world was about to end or something. Not too far away :cool: Geek. :tongue3: There's another one for the awards: 'most utterly, utterly jealous of Andy's exceptional storyline-predicting abilities'. I'll add it to the list. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 13, 2005, 08:46:32 PM Yeah, you're right actually. Strange that he didn't hear the trebuchet SMASHING against it earlier on in the day though :tongue3: On another note, Ive just being reading back through the thread and noticed this: That's what I was thinking; maybe Desmond has been assigned there to protect something (by entering the numbers), and "him" is the person who has to take over the job from Desmond after a certain period of time? I noticed that Kate ate the chocolate bar after checking the expiry date on it's wrapper; so that alone suggests that either Desmond hasn't been down there for that long, or at least that he gets re-supplied every so often. It was strange though, that he said "So.. There's still a world out there?!", when Locke was talking about the plane crash. Suggests he was maybe brought to the hatch initially under the belief that the world was about to end or something. Not too far away :cool: Geek. :tongue3: There's another one for the awards: 'most utterly, utterly jealous of Andy's exceptional storyline-predicting abilities'. I'll add it to the list. :lol: Got another; "Most blows of own trumpet" Actually, that sounds a bit perverted.. ...or very lucky! :lol: Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 15, 2005, 08:47:58 PM Just read TV.com's IN-DEPTH description of episode 10, and can't help but be more excited by it than EVER before. In white:
This episode will shed more light on why Eko took a mysterious 40-day vow of silence, and possibly information on his stick. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: ticaL on December 15, 2005, 08:56:33 PM I'd guess it's because he's a priest or shaman or something religious. Or he's catholic and is going through Lent.
Maybe he had tourette's before the crash, like Locke, but a worse disability... Anyways, we still got to wait a few weeks yet... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 15, 2005, 10:22:33 PM Yeah, I also liked No Quarter's theory that he was blind before he got to the island.
I still have a feeling that he was there prior to the crash of flight 815 though; basically because the episode was initially advertised by the ABC press department as "Merged", and the flashbacks were said to be set on the island before the crash took place (most people thought they'd feature Desmond or Danielle at the time). There's BOUND to be some kind of twist; I'm absolutely sure of it. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: NewcastleRocker on December 15, 2005, 10:25:55 PM I've never watched Lost.
Shall i bother? Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 15, 2005, 10:27:10 PM Nah, I wouldn't bother, It's s***!!
Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: indi on December 15, 2005, 10:29:04 PM Sorry, I made a typing error there, what I meant to say is:
Yes, definately, it's quality, download the whole thing and have a lost-a-thon. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 15, 2005, 10:34:28 PM I've never watched Lost. Shall i bother? Well, to put it into perspective; this thread is the 8th biggest on the entire forum, and it's only the ninth episode in a series hasn't even aired in the UK yet. But nah, it's a complete waste of time. Nothing ever happens. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: NewcastleRocker on December 15, 2005, 10:37:58 PM I'm not a big fan of over-hyped things though, so i stay clear until its well died down.
But if its that good, i'll get it on DVD tomorrow. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 15, 2005, 10:45:47 PM I'm not a big fan of over-hyped things though Neither am I, but Lost isn't over-hyped, trust me. It is slow moving at times, but most of the stuff is necessary to expand empathy with the characters, and build up stories for later on in the series. Some of the cliffhangers are up there with the very best too; it always keep you wanting to come back. I wouldn't buy the English region two DVD if I was you though; it's split into two parts, and you can buy the full set from somewhere like CDWOW for half the price. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 16, 2005, 11:20:52 AM Stuff about episode 10. From ABC:
S02E10 - 11/01/2006 - THE 23RD PSALM (Mr. Eko): Mr. Eko interrogates Charlie about the Virgin Mary statue, Claire begins to lose faith in Charlie when she discovers his secret, and Jack is an interested observer when Kate gives the recovering Sawyer a much-needed haircut. Sounds good. Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: ticaL on December 16, 2005, 04:19:35 PM Ha!, Santa CLAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He must be religious, and Nigerian... Title: Re: LOST - Series TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Adam^ on December 16, 2005, 06:17:14 PM ok i saw the 1st few on season 1 then cudnt be arsed to watch it , but i jsut got the episode that kind of reviews first series and ive jsut watched forst 4 of season 2 straight thru lol, its really good im probs guan watch all nine 2nite.
Definatly worth watching. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 16, 2005, 11:22:08 PM ok i saw the 1st few on season 1 then cudnt be arsed to watch it , but i jsut got the episode that kind of reviews first series and ive jsut watched forst 4 of season 2 straight thru lol, its really good im probs guan watch all nine 2nite. Definatly worth watching. I would space it out over the next few weeks if I were you. Unless you actually want to join the rest of us in 3 weeks of utter frustration, that is. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 17, 2005, 06:12:20 PM Like the sig Andy. :lol:
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 17, 2005, 06:27:03 PM Cheers.
Being the utterly sad b****** that I am, I made it for myself at work yesterday Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Geordiesned on December 17, 2005, 06:36:43 PM Mine was shamelessy stolen from a LOST forum. :tongue3:
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on December 19, 2005, 12:05:07 AM I'm going to make it even betterer after christmas, I have it all planned out.
The cliffhanger will basically be better than anything on the actual show by MILES. Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Adam^ on December 19, 2005, 01:02:56 AM well i jsut watched them all cudnt resist cant wait for the next episode time to downlaod new seiries of desp housewives will keep me entertained for a while.
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 19, 2005, 01:19:14 AM ok, firstly may i say what a shower of bastards indigo, andy and the poster formerly known as no quater are. i'm currently downloading all lost episodes after the one shown on C4 on wednesday, because they decide to play fool the gormless with me :P and make me scan the thread for refferences to santa claus, and jacks death. CUNTS!!! :P
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: indi on December 19, 2005, 01:38:49 AM And the "Special Guests" don't forget them.
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: No Quarter on December 19, 2005, 10:22:17 AM ok, firstly may i say what a shower of bastards indigo, andy and the poster formerly known as no quater are. i'm currently downloading all lost episodes after the one shown on C4 on wednesday, because they decide to play fool the gormless with me :P and make me scan the thread for refferences to santa claus, and jacks death. CUNTS!!! :P Try page 7. Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 19, 2005, 11:03:40 PM ok, firstly may i say what a shower of bastards indigo, andy and the poster formerly known as no quater are. i'm currently downloading all lost episodes after the one shown on C4 on wednesday, because they decide to play fool the gormless with me :P and make me scan the thread for refferences to santa claus, and jacks death. CUNTS!!! :P Try page 7. not till i've seen all the episodes :P Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season O Post by: captainhaircut on December 21, 2005, 12:00:22 AM 3 weeks or so now. hope it goes quickly cos this is killing me. currently i'm thinking that one of the six 'hatches' on the island is under water and may be under the control of a group that ethan was part of. first of all, ethan comes from the water when he kills steve, or scott or whoever. Second of all, the wire that sayid found on the beach goes into the water. rousseau could have just hooked up to the power system that was powering an under water hatch. Third of all, whenever we see the projection of walt or whatever it is, he's always dripping wet. What do we think, any mileage in it?
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 21, 2005, 09:49:38 AM Apperantly there was a rumour flying around that Ana Lucia finds a different wire and follows it to an underwater hatch. But how would you get init with out flodding the place?
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season O Post by: Jonny2J on December 21, 2005, 12:41:38 PM 3 weeks or so now. hope it goes quickly cos this is killing me. currently i'm thinking that one of the six 'hatches' on the island is under water and may be under the control of a group that ethan was part of. first of all, ethan comes from the water when he kills steve, or scott or whoever. Second of all, the wire that sayid found on the beach goes into the water. rousseau could have just hooked up to the power system that was powering an under water hatch. Third of all, whenever we see the projection of walt or whatever it is, he's always dripping wet. What do we think, any mileage in it? you could be onto something there like mateTitle: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: ticaL on December 22, 2005, 11:27:36 AM 3 weeks or so now. hope it goes quickly cos this is killing me. currently i'm thinking that one of the six 'hatches' on the island is under water and may be under the control of a group that ethan was part of. first of all, ethan comes from the water when he kills steve, or scott or whoever. Second of all, the wire that sayid found on the beach goes into the water. rousseau could have just hooked up to the power system that was powering an under water hatch. Third of all, whenever we see the projection of walt or whatever it is, he's always dripping wet. What do we think, any mileage in it? you could be onto something there like mateIndeed there is definately something in this theory. But if there are six hatches, then are they working as a collective or fighting against one another. Or are only 2 in use. The abandoned one that the tail people found for instance. Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season O Post by: Andy on December 22, 2005, 12:44:56 PM Apperantly there was a rumour flying around that Ana Lucia finds a different wire and follows it to an underwater hatch. But how would you get init with out flodding the place? Maybe it surfaces from the ocean when the timer in The Swan hits zero? (Which would be awesome actually; further proof that I should be on the writing team. :cool:) Anyway, another little snippet of information from episode 10, from the same person who first reported that Shannon would die in Abandoned (in white): Quote The scene I watched was set in a church. It was designed for Mr. Eko's (Adewale Akinnuowy-Agbaje) first flashback. Mr. Eko is "king of the warlords" in Nigeria. He enters the church with other warlords and asks his brother, a minister in the church, to ordain him as a minister. Everyone is frightened, knowing Mr. Eko's reputation, and the church is cleared, so only two warlords, Mr. Eko and his brother, are left. [/color]Obvious mathematical sum there being Religion+Nigerians=Priests in Beechcraft. Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Adam^ on December 22, 2005, 12:48:13 PM Well ive jsut got the 1st series box set through fromt he states looks the business like, jsut wish they wud hurry up with the 10th episode of season 2 lol
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: BlufPurdi on December 22, 2005, 12:49:36 PM Is the 2nd series worth getting into. Just watched the first all over, for the second time.
Do I make a point of downloading, or just wait for it to hit our screens? Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season O Post by: Andy on December 22, 2005, 12:52:29 PM Well, it's definately worth watching, yeah. But I suppose it depends whether you want to watch them now, but with long breaks between episodes; or watch them all within a week of each other on UK tv, but not until next summer.
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: BlufPurdi on December 22, 2005, 12:54:15 PM Christ, f*** that. I was thinking it would be about 3 months away.
I'll start downloading soon, need to free space up first. Cheers. Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season O Post by: Andy on December 22, 2005, 11:54:42 PM Good choice. Then you can help us make this thread the biggest on the forum :cool:
Only 185 posts to go! Title: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season O Post by: Andy on December 23, 2005, 12:00:29 AM BREAKING NEWS: Lost has been voted into TV.COM's best TV shows of 2005 list, something which is quite highly regarded in the US of A:
Quote Arrested Development This show had accolades heaped upon it and earned a hardcore dedicated fan base. Unfortunately, it didn't stop Fox from canceling it. The writing recalled the screwball comedies of Neil Simon or the Naked Gun movies, where the jokes whiz by at a million miles an hour and you can barely keep up with the hilarity. Alas, its Development was Arrested too early. Grey's Anatomy ABC has been on an absolute winning streak in the last couple of years after playing second fiddle to NBC and CBS. Lost and Desperate Housewives may get most of the attention, but right there with them is the outstanding Grey's Anatomy. Just when you thought the hospital genre had been played out (ER is in its 12th season after all, Casualty's working on year 20, and General Hospital has been on the air since the dawn of time), along comes this fresh, funny, and poignant new dramatic series. Ellen Pompeo anchors the show as the title character Meredith Grey, one of a group of interns at Seattle Grace Hospital. Sandra Oh, Chandra Wilson, and Patrick Dempsey are just a few of the remaining cast members that make this such a memorable show. We can only hope that there are many great years ahead. Lost This show brought the drama, suspense, and a sense of risk-taking back to prime-time television. With judicious use of special effects and a reliance on intricate stories and good acting, Lost manages to scare and thrill in equal measures. The story of 48 plane crash survivors and the mysterious island they are stuck on became watercooler conversation for us all and helped ABC rise out of the ratings doldrums. Desperate Housewives Desperate Housewives might be getting some flack for the current second season (is the Alfre Woodard storyline a bit much?), but earlier this year the season finale brought in upward of 30 million viewers and the season-two premiere attracted around 28 million. The show focuses on four women (hopefully this will change to five women as Nicolette Sheridan's character, Edie, is currently underused) living in suburbia on a quaint street filled with facades galore. Each woman has a unique familial setup at home and is involved in drama up to their ears. The topics range all the way from murder, affairs, and trouble-making kids to dealing with the in-laws. The storylines this year, albeit mostly those of the latter part of season one, kept fans tuning in for more. Commander in Chief This show throws Geena Davis into the spotlight of the small screen as the first female president of the United States. It's a topic that has been virtually untouched within recent TV dramas, and one whose time has come. Davis' character, Vice President Mackenzie Allen, has assumed the role of president after the current president passes away. To add to the drama, as the president knew he was on his way out, he tells Mac (as she is casually referred to) to step down and let the Speaker of the House, Nathan Templeton (played by the ever-talented Donald Sutherland), assume his rightful position as president. As Mac has to contend with not only being the first female president, but also one in which even the president himself did not want as president, the odds are stacked sky-high against her from the get-go. The chemistry between Geena Davis and Donald Sutherland's characters is palpable--they truly are each other's nemesis in the White House. Emmy chatter has already started to buzz on this new hit Glad AD's there as well, good to see it's getting the recognition it deserves before it's cancelled. No prison break though, which is an absolute TRAVESTY. Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 23, 2005, 01:06:01 AM well i've got episode 23 of series 1 done, and 24 is at 55%. the first 9 of the next series is now at around 82%, so its not long before i know what the hells so good about this thread (and about all the various tricks i've been the subject to.
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 23, 2005, 02:11:29 AM episode 23 of series 1 is one of the best so far. the boat gets attacked though doesn't it?
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: No Quarter on December 23, 2005, 11:22:39 AM Yeah they all die, especially Sawyer.
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 23, 2005, 02:25:33 PM you better be lieing, sawyers my faverite character.
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Geordiesned on December 23, 2005, 04:50:05 PM you better be lieing, sawyers my faverite character. Well you are reading a series 2 thread that stipulates that it contains spoilers for series 1! Mind, I have to admit that I never saw the 'Kate being a lesbian and getting it on with Shannon' storyline coming in episode 24! Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: ticaL on December 23, 2005, 04:51:31 PM Same as the gay Sayid and Locke part in 25, un-realistic
Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season O Post by: chip2388 on December 23, 2005, 05:02:50 PM you better be lieing, sawyers my faverite character. Well you are reading a series 2 thread that stipulates that it contains spoilers for series 1! Mind, I have to admit that I never saw the 'Kate being a lesbian and getting it on with Shannon' storyline coming in episode 24! bluelaugh.gif Wouldn't mind seeing that myself :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST Season 2 *May Contain Long Posts, Naked Women and Spoilers for Season One* Post by: Andy on December 23, 2005, 11:27:21 PM Time for a new thread title tbh.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: captainhaircut on December 24, 2005, 03:37:49 PM If you reckon a new thread is in order its all down to you andy! In fact i nominate you as official leader of the lost thread! My faith is in you.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 24, 2005, 04:58:06 PM seen em all :D
may i just say WOW! Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Geordiesned on December 24, 2005, 05:25:11 PM If you reckon a new thread is in order its all down to you andy! In fact i nominate you as official leader of the lost thread! My faith is in you. New thread title not new thread. So.... where are these naked women?? naughty.gif Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Geordiesned on December 24, 2005, 05:26:17 PM If you reckon a new thread is in order its all down to you andy! In fact i nominate you as official leader of the lost thread! My faith is in you. New thread title not new thread. So.... where are these naked women?? naughty.gif Damn! He's changed it again!!! So no more naked women then?? bluecry.gif Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: No Quarter on December 24, 2005, 08:32:33 PM Prison Break: I've just finished watching episode 2 and I can't wait to see ep3. They cut it right where I wanted more! got 5% of ep3 to come. I'm enjoying it more than Lost Season2 to be honest.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Andy on December 24, 2005, 08:44:23 PM Prison Break: I've just finished watching episode 2 and I can't wait to see ep3. They cut it right where I wanted more! got 5% of ep3 to come. I'm enjoying it more than Lost Season2 to be honest. Yeah, I thought that when I first watched it too; especially after watching episode 6 and 7. I didn't find it as enjoyable as Lost on second viewing though, it must be said. It is a great show though; which makes it more of a shame that channel 5 have picked up, rather than one of the "big" UK terrestrial channels. Oh yeah, and the ending is more frustrating than the end of Lost season 1, so be warned. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Geordiesned on December 24, 2005, 09:47:13 PM When does Prison Break start on Channel Five?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 24, 2005, 09:56:49 PM January 24th.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Geordiesned on December 24, 2005, 09:59:20 PM Ta
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Andy on December 25, 2005, 01:44:19 AM Only 25 more days until episode 10 airs people :banana:
*Opens up door #1 of Lost advent calender* Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 25, 2005, 01:49:04 AM better put this in white, just incase lyke, but its not really a spoiler.
the cliffhanger they left us with makes absolutley no sense compared to the rest of the program, how the hell can walt have gotten inside the system? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 25, 2005, 01:52:58 AM better put this in white, just incase lyke, but its not really a spoiler. No real need to put it in white when the episodes been finished for a good few weeks.the cliffhanger they left us with makes absolutley no sense compared to the rest of the program, how the hell can walt have gotten inside the system? Anyway, we shall see. We still don't know that it's actually Walt using the computer; it could well be 'the others' trying to lure them out into their territory or something. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 25, 2005, 01:55:37 AM true.
i think we can rule out santa claus though ;) :oops: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Ankdh on December 26, 2005, 02:10:11 AM You leave a couple of humans on an island with no technology as such, and within a couple of seasons they're on MSN Messenger. Typical ;)
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: allmo4001 on December 26, 2005, 02:17:15 AM yeyeeyeyeyeeyyeyeyeyeeyyeyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyeyeyeyyeyeyy eeeyyeyeyeyeeyeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 26, 2005, 05:35:22 PM Good point.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: indi on December 27, 2005, 02:32:40 AM Random Lost fact no. 4815162342:
Michael is Mercutio in Romeo + Juliet. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Geordiesned on December 27, 2005, 05:25:55 PM Stuff about the next episode (in white below) from tv.com. Check out the last sentence. :lol:
This episode will shed more light on why Eko took a mysterious 40-day vow of silence, and possibly information on his stick. Also, Claire begins to lose faith in Charlie after Eko begins to question him about the Virgin Mary statue, and Jack is an interested observer when Kate gives the recovering Sawyer a much-needed haircut. And then they all have crazy hardcore monkey sex in the hatch causing impregnation of Kate. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Andy on December 27, 2005, 06:58:49 PM Gave my mam and dad my season 1 boxset the other day and they've watched all 24 episodes ALREADY. Before I gave them it I was keen to tell them "before you even THINK of saying it, it's NOT purgatory and they're NOT all dead".
First thing my mam remarked after watching it was: "so is the big black tunnel a gateway to hell then?" jesus wept ffs tbh. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 28, 2005, 08:08:04 PM Random Lost fact no. 4815162342: Michael is Mercutio in Romeo + Juliet. f****** hell it is arnal. I knew he was from something. s*** film mind, You cant understand a word a c*** says Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 28, 2005, 08:08:36 PM He was in the matrix too.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 28, 2005, 08:11:35 PM He gets around. What Matrix I've only seen the first 1
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 28, 2005, 08:13:33 PM The last 2, he played Link.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 28, 2005, 08:19:08 PM Oh right. Never seen them. Locke was in Old Skool.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 28, 2005, 08:27:10 PM Yeah, Terry O'Quinn has been in loads of stuff. LOST is probably the biggest though, which is surprising given how good an actor he is.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: captainhaircut on December 28, 2005, 08:49:25 PM Michael plays link in matrix re-loaded and revoultions. long hair in those days! or wig!
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Geordiesned on December 30, 2005, 06:20:09 PM Not too long to go now....:D
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 30, 2005, 10:47:08 PM Is it wrong that I'm more excited about the 11th of January than I was the 25th of December?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Andy on December 30, 2005, 10:54:12 PM It's worth mentioning by the way, that the return episode last year was "whatever the case may be"; so don't necessarily EXPECT it to be an EXPLOSIVE welcome back or anything. (Though I'm sure it will be).
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Jonny2J on December 30, 2005, 10:55:53 PM Is it wrong that I'm more excited about the 11th of January than I was the 25th of December? maybe you could start your own Religion Andy? as that's what it's becoming bluebiggrin.gifTitle: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Andy on December 30, 2005, 11:00:46 PM Interesting idea. What would said religion be called?
Losticism? Lostic? Lostian? Lostastic? Lostish? Lostite? Christian mk.2? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: BlufPurdi on December 30, 2005, 11:06:55 PM I like 'Losticism'. :D
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: jasonx_102 on December 30, 2005, 11:47:03 PM I can't seeing it being explosive tbh. We know its about Eko. I think it will jus be a stroy. We might see michael go out looking for Walt and thats about it.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on December 31, 2005, 12:35:51 AM Lostic or Lostican. very druid and mystic are these 2 :D
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 31, 2005, 06:19:37 PM Does anyone know where I can find some of the fonts from Lost? Preferably either the one that SMACKS onto the screen at the end each episode, or the one from the front of the DVD cover, if they exist.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: BlufPurdi on December 31, 2005, 06:28:26 PM https://www.dafont.com/forum/read.php?3,79905,79989
Just had a look, don't think it has a specific font. According to someone half-way down that screen, anyway. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on December 31, 2005, 06:34:01 PM Cheers. Didn't realise the DVD cover one was just the bog standard version of Impact.
Cheap bastards. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: BlufPurdi on December 31, 2005, 06:34:18 PM :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: slapnuts on January 01, 2006, 03:00:10 PM Hi I have just read this full thread and decided to register.
Anyway on Lost season 2 episode 9. When Kate is next to the black horse, you can see a hand with a black glove on it. 41 mins 3 seconds. a hand with a black glove on far right of the screen. Pretty cool :) Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: slapnuts on January 01, 2006, 04:52:57 PM (https://img488.imageshack.us/img488/6975/vlcsnap4188701kt.png)
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: indi on January 01, 2006, 07:20:32 PM Possibly a cock-up, maybe it is the trainer, making the horse stand still??
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: slapnuts on January 01, 2006, 10:03:53 PM yeah
deffo just a cock up. I think they were trying to make the horse turn around. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: jasonx_102 on January 02, 2006, 10:20:17 PM Bump. Not long now. 2 weeks is it?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Andy on January 02, 2006, 10:33:56 PM A week on Wednesday.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Adam^ on January 02, 2006, 10:50:51 PM A week on Wednesday. You gongit o be watching it or wait for the release over the net ? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Andy on January 02, 2006, 10:53:46 PM I'll be watching it live via a friend's website if I can be bothered to stay up. I would provide a URL to said site, but just a couple more viewers would eat up his bandwidth.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Geordiesned on January 03, 2006, 12:32:48 AM If I win the lottery on Saturday I'll fly to the States to watch it ! :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: captainhaircut on January 03, 2006, 02:31:16 AM I'll be watching it live via a friend's website if I can be bothered to stay up. I would provide a URL to said site, but just a couple more viewers would eat up his bandwidth. a friends website? how the bloody hell does that thing work and how haven't i heard of it? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Wiley on January 03, 2006, 02:35:49 AM Does anyone want to download any of the episodes they have missed,i have loads on my comp
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: indi on January 03, 2006, 03:42:30 AM I tried to delete the first series off my harddrive and strangely enough my whole computer went mad and I had to reinstall a backup of my c drive, guess what number backup I had to install!?!
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 03, 2006, 03:54:35 AM I tried to delete the first series off my harddrive and strangely enough my whole computer went mad and I had to reinstall a backup of my c drive, guess what number backup I had to install!?! Hmm, my hard drive's been telling me to back up my files at the moment. I haven't deleted the Lost series yet, but since I started watching them the HDD has been giving me jip. And it happened a few months ago when I got it, my hard drive went haywire. Strange, had forgot about that. DIdn't think to link the two. blueconfused.gif Coincidence? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Andy on January 03, 2006, 10:39:37 AM a friends website? how the bloody hell does that thing work and how haven't i heard of it? It's basically just a high quality stream (OMG BAN HIM!) of the show. I usually don't bother with it though, 'cos it doesn't start until the early hours, and I'm a lazy b******. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9 Post by: Andy on January 03, 2006, 10:41:12 AM If I win the lottery on Saturday I'll fly to the States to watch it ! :lol: f*** that. I'd fly to Hawaii and watch them make it :cool: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO - The REAL Thread of the Year 2005 *Spoilers up to Episode 9* Post by: Geordiesned on January 03, 2006, 01:36:07 PM f*** that. I'd fly to Hawaii and watch them make it :cool: Or maybe even try and sneek into a shot unnoticed! Then everyone would be saying "did you see that bloke hiding in the jungle behind Kate and Jack? Do you reckon it was one of the 'others'??" :lol: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 04, 2006, 06:39:55 PM Okay, a bit risky bumping this with the other thread floating around, so I'll stick this in white incase someone at C4 pace reads this by accident. It's not so much a spoiler, just a comment.
How close was BooBoo in this post, without even realising it: https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,11805.msg222437.html#msg222437 :shock: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: captainhaircut on January 04, 2006, 06:50:42 PM i'll put my reply in white as well, just in case.
yeah i saw that. maybe he knows but is trying to look a genius by claiming he doesn't. i'm so excited now. just a week. longest 6 weeks of my life. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 04, 2006, 09:37:58 PM Doubt it. I remember he used to refuse to even watch it at E4 pace.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: indi on January 04, 2006, 09:53:17 PM Doubt it. I remember he used to refuse to even watch it at E4 pace. I think he knew, it's too close to be a guess. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: captainhaircut on January 04, 2006, 11:11:04 PM not long now, so lets keep the thread going one more week! whats everyones favourite episode then? mines deux ex machina (s01e19) by some way. everything about it, from that arse boone dying, to locke getting screwed and the brilliant ending is perfect. bit of comedy with sawyer and the glasses as well. think that has to be one of the best performances in a tv drama series ever by terry o'quinn. sensational.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 05, 2006, 03:51:41 PM Pilot's still my favourite episode; they got the pace perfect, the music, even in the "lesser" scenes was top notch (probably better than most of the tunes they use now actually, apart from the big spectacular pieces), and the characters didn't know each other, or anything about the island, so there was still the huge element of mystery.
After that, probably 'Man of Science, Man of Faith'. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on January 05, 2006, 03:53:57 PM Anything with Korea in it I liked
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: pudmag on January 05, 2006, 03:54:29 PM Has the series 1 finished now?? I watched last weeks on 4 and e4, which was repeated last night.....(they launced the raft) Or is it just on a break because of CBB4???
Hope its not finished........how long before we get series 2?? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: indi on January 05, 2006, 03:55:04 PM Anything with Korea in it I liked Yeah the one with Jin's back story was probably my favourite. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Geordiesned on January 05, 2006, 06:55:48 PM Has the series 1 finished now?? I watched last weeks on 4 and e4, which was repeated last night.....(they launced the raft) Or is it just on a break because of CBB4??? Hope its not finished........how long before we get series 2?? There wasn't one on E4 last night as there's a double header on Channel 4 next week with the last 2 episodes of the series. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 05, 2006, 07:09:16 PM Some information on upcoming episodes to wet your appetites (contains spoilers in white):
Quote Episode 2.11: The Hunting Party - Jack Airdate: January 18, 2006 Where's Walt? At the end of the November 30 episode, Michael sat down at the hatch's computer and got a shock: a message addressed to "Dad." Is it really from his missing son, Walt? Or might it be the handiwork of the deadly Others who nabbed him? Our lips are sealed, but we'll get closer to an answer when someone makes a chilling return in the January 18 episode. [...] And on January 18, we'll finally learn some of the problems that plagued Jack's marriage to Sarah and why that's bad news for any romance with Kate. Source: TV Guide (Printed edition) Episode 2.12: Fire + Water - Charlie Airdate: January 25, 2006 When Charlie's vividly surreal dreams lead him to believe Claire's baby, Aaron, is in danger, Locke suspects Charlie may be using again. Meanwhile, Sawyer encourages Hurley to act on his attraction to Libby. Source: ABC Episode 2.13: Title Unknown - Locke Airdate: February 2006 Katey Sagal returns in episode 13 and another female character already introduced may be added to the regular cast. Episode 2.14: One Of Them - Sayid Airdate: February 2006 [This episode] is Sayid-centric with a flashback to Iraq. Sayid deals with a CIA agent (George Clooney type) named Inman. Episode 2.15: Maternity Leave - Claire Airdate: February 2006 We have another new survivor, In episode 2.15, we will be introduced to Jessica, 16, who is described as smart, strong, attractive and will be found on the island. Some very interesting stuff in there. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: indi on January 05, 2006, 07:44:06 PM My comments (in white):
Who do you think makes a chilling return? I reckon it's one of the dead people and I think this might be common from here on in. Who's Katey Sagal, apart from Al Bundy's wife? What odds will you give me that it's Danielle, who is the other female cast member to return and become a regular? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 05, 2006, 07:52:00 PM My comments (in white): Who do you think makes a chilling return? I reckon it's one of the dead people and I think this might be common from here on in. Who's Katey Sagal, apart from Al Bundy's wife? What odds will you give me that it's Danielle, who is the other female cast member to return and become a regular? In white: Katey Sagal plays Helen. I think both the returning character, and the one who'll become a permanant cast member, will be Cindy. Or possibly Desmond... One of the two. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: indi on January 05, 2006, 07:57:13 PM In white: Katey Sagal plays Helen. I think both the returning character, and the one who'll become a permanant cast member, will be Cindy. Or possibly Desmond... One of the two. My response: Helen = Stewardess? " Episode 2.13: Title Unknown - Locke Airdate: February 2006 Katey Sagal returns in episode 13 and another female character already introduced may be added to the regular cast." Hence: Not Dessy Boy. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 05, 2006, 08:00:41 PM My response: Helen = Stewardess? " Episode 2.13: Title Unknown - Locke Airdate: February 2006 Katey Sagal returns in episode 13 and another female character already introduced may be added to the regular cast." Hence: Not Dessy Boy. WHITETASTIC: Nope, Helen is Locke's girfriend. Cindy is the air stewardess. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: indi on January 05, 2006, 08:07:51 PM Damn this six week break!! I've forgotten what the f***'s going on!!
In white: Remind me about Helen. She's not on the island, is she? My mind's turning to mush. I still reckon it's going to be Danielle who comes back, at least I hope so, she's one of the most interesting characters in my opinion and probably my favourite followed by Sayid and Locke. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 05, 2006, 08:12:25 PM Helen is Locke's girlfriend from S02E03; he meets her at the group therapy session, and he stays at her house, FUCKS HER SILLY, then leaves during the night to pop over to his dad's mansion for a bovril. She's not happy, so she does a speach about a leap of faith and what have you, and then they all live happily ever after (OR SO THEY THINK)...
I have no idea why I've put that in white, as it's not even a spoiler, but whatever... Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on January 05, 2006, 08:35:12 PM In white: I like big butts and I cannot lie, them other girls aint so fly, when a girl walks in with a million dollar grin and butt so big I like to get FUNKY! funky funky spunky, my monkey, it's no junky like hilary clinton or spendin a stint in the prory, I put it in me diary, don't worry it f***** up now but I looked up wow and BOOBIES! BOOBY BOOBY BOOBY, i like to get fruity when i see my favourite BOOBY. Over and out
That's all I have to say at this moment in time. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: jasonx_102 on January 05, 2006, 08:44:21 PM Some information on upcoming episodes to wet your appetites (contains spoilers in white): Some very interesting stuff in there. Its gotta be Des. Why would they say we'd learn a bit more about who was on the comp. Des knows. Des is the man. Des the Great is back! Des, The. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: pudmag on January 05, 2006, 11:53:27 PM There wasn't one on E4 last night as there's a double header on Channel 4 next week with the last 2 episodes of the series. Thank you. I was hoping they weren`t going to leave it there!! Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 07, 2006, 05:25:49 PM i think we'll have to wait a little longer (possibly series 3, for des' return.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 07, 2006, 06:27:46 PM Possibly, but Lindelof said in one of the podcasts that he'd be back "soon".
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: No Quarter on January 08, 2006, 05:30:06 PM How long till next episode then?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 08, 2006, 05:32:55 PM 3 days and SOON hours are remaining, depending on the length of time it takes you to "acquire" it.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Adam^ on January 09, 2006, 10:20:52 AM wish they wud just hurry up with it tbh im bored now as everyone i talk to is still one season 1 and im half way thru season 2 lol.
Sounds good tho whats guna happen they will blatenly string it out and lead things in the season 3. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: No Quarter on January 11, 2006, 03:24:56 AM We told you santa was in.
(https://www.weebls-stuff.com/userfiles/Image/joel17ya(1).jpg) From https://www.weebls-stuff.com/articles/502/christmas-tv-sure-did-suck Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Geordiesned on January 11, 2006, 12:30:49 PM :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: captainhaircut on January 11, 2006, 07:17:44 PM anyone read booboo's post in the series 1 thread? as if he hasn't read spoliers ffs.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 11, 2006, 07:20:59 PM :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: captainhaircut on January 11, 2006, 07:31:46 PM his post could have been a short summary of the episode ffs. he'll feel shirtchanged tonight if hje's telling the truth and he hasn't read spoilers.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Ally on January 11, 2006, 07:37:02 PM Episodes 1-9 are stunningly good, loved it.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Geordiesned on January 11, 2006, 08:29:40 PM As far as I'm aware booboo hasn't read any spoilers - in fact he's gone out of his way to avoid them!
Good thing in tonight's that I'd forgotten about. When Hurley asks Locke what he thinks is in the hatch at they are making their way back with the dynamite. Locke turns the question back onto Hurley who practically describes in the inside of the hatch perfectly; right down to the decor and the food mountain! Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Ally on January 11, 2006, 08:33:57 PM Have you watched tonights like Sned?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Geordiesned on January 11, 2006, 08:35:17 PM Have you watched tonights like Sned? Aye, I'm up to date in the 2nd series. I bought the first series on Region 1 DVD from play.com just after episode 13 had been on because I was so addicted. Have to say, some absolutely quality bonus features on there! Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 11, 2006, 08:36:33 PM Has anyone seen Episode 10 yet?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Geordiesned on January 11, 2006, 08:36:39 PM As far as I'm aware booboo hasn't read any spoilers - in fact he's gone out of his way to avoid them! Good thing in tonight's that I'd forgotten about. When Hurley asks Locke what he thinks is in the hatch at they are making their way back with the dynamite. Locke turns the question back onto Hurley who practically describes in the inside of the hatch perfectly; right down to the decor and the food mountain! Just read his post - as soon as he'd watched the last episode when they set sail he told me that he didn't believe they'd get far as all the characters on board were to strong to lose. Nail on head really. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Ally on January 11, 2006, 08:55:42 PM Has anyone seen Episode 10 yet? Thats what I meant Sned you divvy! Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 11, 2006, 09:35:39 PM Has anyone seen Episode 10 yet? Doesn't air 'til around 2 AM our time. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Geordiesned on January 11, 2006, 09:43:16 PM Thats what I meant Sned you divvy! It hasn't been on yet you divvy! :lol: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 11, 2006, 09:51:30 PM Ah, right. Cheers.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 09: What Kate Did* Post by: Andy on January 11, 2006, 10:42:02 PM Okay people, I'm going to change the thread title now in anticipation for tonight's episode *excited*
Same procedure as usual; try to keep spoilerish posts in white until Saturday-ish when everyone's seen it. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Ally on January 11, 2006, 10:48:24 PM Ooh i'm excited :D
Can't believe you lot have been waiting 6 weeks for this one, i've been waiting 6 hours and thats annoying enough! Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 11, 2006, 10:54:25 PM Ooh i'm excited :D Can't believe you lot have been waiting 6 weeks for this one, i've been waiting 6 hours and thats annoying enough! Aye. Totally itching to see it. Only been about 16 hours since I watched the ninth episode. Should I really know that? :oops: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 11, 2006, 10:56:16 PM Ooh, might get up early to download it! :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: captainhaircut on January 11, 2006, 11:00:03 PM Ooh, might get up early to download it! :lol: get up early? us hardcore folk stay up. be up about 4 maybe Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Ally on January 11, 2006, 11:01:30 PM 4am? Christ no, i'm up at 8 for a day of 'revision'. It comes second to Lost mind ;)
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: captainhaircut on January 11, 2006, 11:04:55 PM yeah i also have revision but it is most definately second to lost. will be staying up til 4 to dl it, then waiting for it to finsih then watching it. should be in bed by 7.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: No Quarter on January 11, 2006, 11:16:03 PM What other american TV shows that are good and new should I download apart from Lost and Prison Break?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 11, 2006, 11:21:46 PM Grey's Anatomy's supposed to be good, though I can't say I've seen it myself.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 11, 2006, 11:52:18 PM Definitely NOT Invasion on what I've seen far!
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 12, 2006, 12:00:26 AM Bloody hell! They just showed Mr Eko in the trailer for series 2 which is on in the spring!
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 12, 2006, 12:01:57 AM Aye, not so bad that it's not another year away. But when you think it takes nearly half a year to run, they've not really put it on that much earlier. Should be two episodes a week. I couldn't keep track of anyone's name or anything relating to them with the Channel 4 rate. God bless the Internet.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 12, 2006, 12:03:09 AM Why the f*** did that trailer on C4 make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, even though I've already seen everything it showed? :D
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 12, 2006, 12:08:24 AM The Mr Eko bit was actually class if you've got idea about what's coming as was the brief countdown you saw.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Ally on January 12, 2006, 12:11:02 AM Missed the trailor at the end, which bit did they show?
(do it in white if you like) Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Adam^ on January 12, 2006, 12:13:39 AM Episode 10 any got a link for it ? Ive tryed usuallt bit torrent site but ive got nowt
Plz Pm with it if u do :) Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 12, 2006, 12:14:33 AM Just showed Jin saying "Uddas" and Mr Eko and the rest running with sticks, and the odd view of inside the hatch.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 12, 2006, 12:15:37 AM Missed the trailor at the end, which bit did they show? (do it in white if you like) No need to do it in white since this is the Series 2 thread anyway. They put together loads of very short (shorter than a second each) clips into a very short trailer which left many a question. They showed a clip of Mr Eko about to hit someone with his stick (made it look like one of the others), you saw the clock counting down and only 4 seconds left, Jack hiding round the corner down in the hatch. Can't remember what else but very well put together to make the viewer want more. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Ally on January 12, 2006, 12:15:38 AM Just showed Jin saying "Uddas" and Mr Eko and the rest running with sticks, and the odd view of inside the hatch. Oh right yeh. Adam, you'll have to wait til the morning for episode 10 ;) Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Toon's Taylor on January 12, 2006, 12:16:35 AM No need to do it in white since this is the Series 2 thread anyway. They put together loads of very short (shorter than a second each) clips into a very short trailer which left many a question. They showed a clip of Mr Eko about to hit someone with his stick (made it look like one of the others), you saw the clock counting down and only 4 seconds left, Jack hiding round the corner down in the hatch. Can't remember what else but very well put together to make the viewer want more. I want more, i wanna watch it right now the darn buggers!!!! PS: Was saying to wor lass that i can wait for my 2nd scan of the baby in March, but to wait that long for the next episode of Lost is just cruel. She hit me. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 12, 2006, 12:18:16 AM Episode 10 any got a link for it ? Ive tryed usuallt bit torrent site but ive got nowt Plz Pm with it if u do :) It's not on yet. It'll be available from about 4am. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 12, 2006, 12:18:16 AM :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 12, 2006, 12:19:44 AM I want more, i wanna watch it right now the darn buggers!!!! PS: Was saying to wor lass that i can wait for my 2nd scan of the baby in March, but to wait that long for the next episode of Lost is just cruel. She hit me. No s***! You're lucky she didn't ask you to pack your bags! :lol: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Toon's Taylor on January 12, 2006, 12:24:09 AM No s***! You're lucky she didn't ask you to pack your bags! :lol: You know when a joke backfires? Bloody hormones. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 12, 2006, 12:27:01 AM You know when a joke backfires? Bloody hormones. Now definitely don't say that to her! Sofa tonight? :lol: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on January 12, 2006, 12:29:33 AM *SPOILERS ALERT* IN WHITE
[COLOUUR=WHITE] IT'S ALL A DREAM [COLOR[ Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 12, 2006, 01:29:56 AM *SPOILERS ALERT* IN WHITE [COLOUUR=WHITE] IT'S ALL A DREAM [COLOR[ Nicely done, very slick AS9!! ;) :) Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Bellars on January 12, 2006, 03:10:39 AM 23rd Psalm. Great episode bluebiggrin.gif
A few 'easter eggs' in there Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Bellars on January 12, 2006, 03:57:36 AM next week looks excellent, as well.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Ally on January 12, 2006, 12:49:18 PM Wow. I'll stick stuff in white:
Excellent episode, it was great to see Eko's story. I would have never guessed he was involved in the plane, but how did he get there? Why was he flying on the plane? That bang with the black smoke scared the s*** out of me, it was most bizarre though. I don't really have the Lost intelligence to work out why the black smoke went when he stared at it, he must have some kind of powers. Bit disappointed they didn't do more with Michael and Walt, but its still VERY intruiging as to how he's using the computer. Are there going to be any consequences of using it after what the tape said? So many questions, so few answers! Pretty emotional episode too, all the stuff with Eko's brother and Charlie's drug struggle was quite moving. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Decky on January 12, 2006, 01:01:12 PM i cant get Lost anywhere, none of the torrents are loading, can someone pm me help? can anyone send me it over msn?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Bellars on January 12, 2006, 03:16:43 PM Wow. I'll stick stuff in white: Excellent episode, it was great to see Eko's story. I would have never guessed he was involved in the plane, but how did he get there? Why was he flying on the plane? That bang with the black smoke scared the s*** out of me, it was most bizarre though. I don't really have the Lost intelligence to work out why the black smoke went when he stared at it, he must have some kind of powers. Bit disappointed they didn't do more with Michael and Walt, but its still VERY intruiging as to how he's using the computer. Are there going to be any consequences of using it after what the tape said? So many questions, so few answers! Pretty emotional episode too, all the stuff with Eko's brother and Charlie's drug struggle was quite moving. Reply, in white of course. Eko was flying on Oceanic 815, not on the drug smugglin plane. I thought they addressed that in the episode flashbacks. Also, I don't know if Eko has powers. If you remember in Season One, Locke went face-to-face with the monster as well when first hunting boar, and came out unscathed. Though we never saw the monster, the camera perspective made this clear. Locke "looked into the heart of the island," as he later said. When Eko stares at the monster, as the camera passes through the 'smoke' you can see a few images (one appeared to be a picture of Jesus on the cross, I couldn't make out the others). This is surely insight to what the monster really is, and its purpose. Note that Eko, like Locke, does not fear the monster, doesn't run, and survives. Both are men of faith, so perhaps that is important. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Bellars on January 12, 2006, 03:26:40 PM Spoiler link to Monster's Images- scenes from Eko's past.
https://lost.cubit.net/investigations.php?PHPSESSID=5114af69b0b76812f18bdcb195866833 Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Ally on January 12, 2006, 03:27:46 PM I hadn't noticed any imagery in the smoke, i'll watch it again and have a look.
I know Eko was on the 815 plane, but I was just wondering why he was. Was he going to meet up with the 'priests' or what? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Ally on January 12, 2006, 03:40:29 PM Edit, done a bit of research! (white....)
When the monster came a load of images emerged, such as the crucifix, his brothers church, his brother shot, him and his brother and one of Eko after the crash. Is it reading his mind or something? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 12, 2006, 05:15:50 PM In white:
Haven't seen it yet, just got in from work, downloading now, 30 mins to go! :D Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Ally on January 12, 2006, 05:16:15 PM :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 12, 2006, 08:53:29 PM Ok, that episode was just immense, and next week's looks even better.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 12, 2006, 09:01:36 PM Best episode yet!!
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: BottledDog on January 13, 2006, 12:38:02 AM What Charlie was singing when Eko approached him.
He comes on smooth, cool and kind, But he wants your body not your mind. He's got style, personality, But he's the devil in reality. He'll make you laugh, make you smile, And make you feel good for a while. Wicked smile, decadent grin, He likes school girls, nuns and virgins. His skin is soft but his mind is hard, He'll lead you on then he'll tear you apart. He'll treat you rough and he will make you cry, And you will kiss sweet innocence good-bye. And once you're in there'll be no getting out, So look out, look out, look out, look out. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's got wit he's got charm. But when he gets rough he'll break your arm. He's got taste, manners and grace, But when he gets tough he'll slit your face. He'll buy you jewels, expensive clothes, Then his mind'll go and he'll bust your nose. He's a joker and a clown But he'll pervert you and drag you down. He comes on smooth, cool and kind, But he wants your body not your mind, He is just the devil in disguise. He will drag you down and he will make you cry, And once you're in there will be no getting out. So look out, look out, look out. Look out, look out, look out. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. - the Kinks In my opinion it describes Charlie more than anyone (such as Eko) considering the shows closing images. He be Eeeevil. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 13, 2006, 08:12:03 PM Edit, done a bit of research! (white....) When the monster came a load of images emerged, such as the crucifix, his brothers church, his brother shot, him and his brother and one of Eko after the crash. Is it reading his mind or something? Just seen it :D i think that the black smoke must have been showing him everything that was important to him, one can only imagine what locke and boon saw and why what locke saw was beautiful considering most of the images must have been depressing with all the s**** that happened too him. i think there must be a religious part of the island, because it seems that the only ones who aren't effected by the so called security system are religious, but what was the smoke doing with locke in the pemulitimate episode of series one? also what was the point of the plane bringing the drug smugglers plane to the island, if it killed the guy flying it. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 13, 2006, 08:26:31 PM Preview for Episode 11: "The Hunting Party" can be downloaded here:
https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x11promo.zip Looks quite intense. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 13, 2006, 08:41:12 PM Just seen it :D i think that the black smoke must have been showing him everything that was important to him, one can only imagine what locke and boon saw and why what locke saw was beautiful considering most of the images must have been depressing with all the s**** that happened too him. i think there must be a religious part of the island, because it seems that the only ones who aren't effected by the so called security system are religious, but what was the smoke doing with locke in the pemulitimate episode of series one? also what was the point of the plane bringing the drug smugglers plane to the island, if it killed the guy flying it. Nit, what I reckon, in white naturally ;) I reckon the security system doesn't hurt those who have been "redeemed", each of the characters has a skeleton in the closet, and will be given an opportunity, by the island, to redeem themselves. The reason for the plane, etc, was to give Echo the chance of redemption, when he told Charlie he was a priest and put on the crucifix, that was a symbol of his redemption. I'm not sure that Locke has actually been redeemed yet, he's not scared of the "security system", but it did try to get him, remember? Charlie, is another one who has been given the opportunity to redeem himself, but it's ambiguous whether he has, or not, at the moment. Anyway, what do you lot reckon? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 13, 2006, 08:42:36 PM feck me :shock:
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: chip2388 on January 13, 2006, 09:08:06 PM Guess who just downloaded a full episode of desperate housewives.
God damn false naming programs !!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 13, 2006, 09:16:57 PM Guess who just downloaded a full episode of desperate housewives. God damn false naming programs !!!!!!!!!! :lol: you couldn't pay me to watch that s****. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 13, 2006, 09:18:34 PM i can tell you how the truck and nails one is done without it even having taken place yet :P
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 13, 2006, 09:26:59 PM i can tell you how the truck and nails one is done without it even having taken place yet :P So you've seen Penn & Teller, too. ;) Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 13, 2006, 09:27:53 PM Oi nit you've made me post in the wrong thread as well!!
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 13, 2006, 09:33:51 PM Oi nit you've made me post in the wrong thread as well!! that happened to me before, where a post went to the wrong thread, luckily i spotted that mistake and reposted, as i just happened that the post made sense it the thread and made me look completly bent. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: captainhaircut on January 13, 2006, 10:58:06 PM great episode, brilliantly wrote, wondefully acted and very interesting in terms of future developments. next week looks great as well. like its never been away.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: jasonx_102 on January 13, 2006, 11:15:35 PM Firstly I s*** myself when the balck smoke came out. Honestly soiled myself. Jumped and everything. Anyway. Good episode but we didn't really learn much about the hatch or the others. Next week looks quality. 'This is our island' - one of the others???? And all the fire surounding them. Good to see Jack Locke and Sawyer all on the same team too.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 13, 2006, 11:42:47 PM Firstly I s*** myself when the balck smoke came out. Honestly soiled myself. Jumped and everything. Anyway. Good episode but we didn't really learn much about the hatch or the others. Next week looks quality. 'This is our island' - one of the others???? And all the fire surounding them. Good to see Jack Locke and Sawyer all on the same team too. aye i'm looking forward to a holywood style shootout jack, sawyer etc... vs the others. Sawyer gets hit in his other shoulder and goes down slow mo style into a puddle. i can see us loosing one next episode. it wont be jack or locke. sawyer will probably suvive imo not because he's crucial to the story but because i like him and he's a great character, and they've only just brought him back from the dead, although now would be a good time to kill him off :( . wouldn't mind seing the back of charlie though. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: chip2388 on January 14, 2006, 12:30:21 PM Firstly I s*** myself when the balck smoke came out. Honestly soiled myself. Jumped and everything. Anyway. Good episode but we didn't really learn much about the hatch or the others. Next week looks quality. 'This is our island' - one of the others???? And all the fire surounding them. Good to see Jack Locke and Sawyer all on the same team too. That loud bang gave me quite a jump as well especially as my speakers were on quite loud and at that time i was sat quite close to the screen Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Sima on January 14, 2006, 01:11:17 PM That was probably the best episode of Lost yet bluecool.gif
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 14, 2006, 06:22:23 PM Firstly I s*** myself when the balck smoke came out. Honestly soiled myself. Jumped and everything. Anyway. Good episode but we didn't really learn much about the hatch or the others. Next week looks quality. 'This is our island' - one of the others???? And all the fire surounding them. Good to see Jack Locke and Sawyer all on the same team too. aye i'm looking forward to a holywood style shootout jack, sawyer etc... vs the others. Sawyer gets hit in his other shoulder and goes down slow mo style into a puddle. i can see us loosing one next episode. it wont be jack or locke. sawyer will probably suvive imo not because he's crucial to the story but because i like him and he's a great character, and they've only just brought him back from the dead, although now would be a good time to kill him off :( . wouldn't mind seing the back of charlie though. Can't see them killing anyone else off. Apart from Walt because of his sudden growth spurt maybe. Charlie, Locke, Claire and Sawyer have upcoming flashbacks though; so neither of them are dying any time soon. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Decky on January 15, 2006, 11:33:08 AM in white
Eko and the Plane - wtf, how did the plane get there, what are the chances like, how the hell did Eko know that it was 'the plane' when Clare mentioned Charlie had a statue of Mary? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Southern Geordie on January 15, 2006, 02:06:16 PM I've literally spent all night trying to download episode 10.. all I keep getting is desperate housewifes, the lost boys, star trek and season 1 episode 10.. What am I gonna do? I'm starting to get withdrawl symptoms..
Any ideas? I'm dying to see them :) Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 15, 2006, 02:17:52 PM PM'd you Southern Geordie.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 15, 2006, 04:59:40 PM It's been confirmed by ABC today that there'll be 23 episodes this season; and the finale will be double-length again.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: chip2388 on January 15, 2006, 07:04:50 PM They gunna have a series 3 ? That been confirmed?
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 15, 2006, 07:11:35 PM More than likely. Damond Lindelof said a while back that they would probably have 4 or 5 full seasons, but they have enough stuff for 6 or 7.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Jonny2J on January 15, 2006, 07:25:36 PM anyone help me out with the episode, the torrent has been on for hours and is still connecting to the tracker blueconfused.gif blueupset.gif
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Decky on January 15, 2006, 08:05:27 PM anyone help me out with the episode, the torrent has been on for hours and is still connecting to the tracker blueconfused.gif blueupset.gif sent you a pm Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Decky on January 15, 2006, 08:06:22 PM They gunna have a series 3 ? That been confirmed? i heard they confirmed 5 series, i seen an interview with the creators, im near sure they said 5 Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Geordiesned on January 15, 2006, 08:25:49 PM Good article:
https://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060111/ENT02/601110412/1034 Podcasts: https://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts/101322.html Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: chip2388 on January 15, 2006, 09:50:31 PM Wow 5 series if they can keep up the high standard i would be impressive but having 5 series maybe they coould kill it off, only time will tell
Btw has anyone played the game on the abc website? Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Adam^ on January 15, 2006, 11:04:22 PM In white
I think they are somewhere west of austailia indian ocean sort of area with the plane coming from nigeria. And Eko knew what it was as it was what got his borther killed you would more than likey remeber that. Next episode will be mint Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: NE6 on January 15, 2006, 11:12:53 PM I've literally spent all night trying to download episode 10.. all I keep getting is desperate housewifes, the lost boys, star trek and season 1 episode 10.. What am I gonna do? I'm starting to get withdrawl symptoms.. Any ideas? I'm dying to see them :) Same here, any ideas folks? TIA Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 15, 2006, 11:22:11 PM I've literally spent all night trying to download episode 10.. all I keep getting is desperate housewifes, the lost boys, star trek and season 1 episode 10.. What am I gonna do? I'm starting to get withdrawl symptoms.. Any ideas? I'm dying to see them :) Check your PMs. Same here, any ideas folks? TIA Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Jonny2J on January 16, 2006, 11:35:50 AM Big thanks to Decky and Indigo for helping me out getting the episode.... :icon_cheers:
Well what can i say apart from that episode was well worth the wait, was very interesting to go into the entriguing Mr Ecko's background and to see Charlie's drug problems taking hold of him again, quality moment too when Ecko stared down the eye of the black smoke Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 16, 2006, 07:11:07 PM Big thanks to Decky and Indigo for helping me out getting the episode.... :icon_cheers: Well what can i say apart from that episode was well worth the wait, was very interesting to go into the entriguing Mr Ecko's background and to see Charlie's drug problems taking hold of him again, quality moment too when Ecko stared down the eye of the black smoke No probs. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Decky on January 16, 2006, 10:20:29 PM Being Still protects you from the 'machine/monster' Eko and Locke where both standing still and never ran, thats why they survived. Plus in Exodus, the monster comes and Locke says to Hurly"Be Still". The monster then moves in the other direction
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Jonny2J on January 16, 2006, 10:33:21 PM does anyone also think Ecko and Lauren look alike?
(https://www.4thegame.com/media/00/02/38/Lauren.jpg) (https://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/psalm/normal_psalm03.jpg) Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 16, 2006, 10:59:31 PM Decky:
You might be part right, although I still think there's a bit more to it than that. Remember there were scenes of Ecko's life going on inside it when the camera went through the cloud, so it must have known he was there. I'm sticking with my redemption theory (see earlier post). I seem to remember that there's an animal who has a blind spot directly in front of it and if you stand right in front of it's face it can't get you. Oh hang on, wait a minute, forget that, that's Perfect Dark, not real life!! whoops :oops: Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 16, 2006, 11:12:57 PM I've edited the first post of the thread to contain the schedule for the rest of the season, keep checking it for updates etc.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 16, 2006, 11:18:02 PM Andy, I don't like the bits in blue, they're crap!!
I suggest they get removed from the schedule. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 16, 2006, 11:47:46 PM I've changed them to green so they don't stand out as much.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 17, 2006, 12:03:44 AM I've changed them to green so they don't stand out as much. It's not so much the colour, but what they say, that I don't like. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 17, 2006, 12:06:33 AM I've changed them to green so they don't stand out as much. It's not so much the colour, but what they say, that I don't like. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's better than last year though; when pretty much all of the last 10 episodes were seperated by 2 and 3 week breaks. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: indi on January 17, 2006, 12:09:54 AM Bloody yanks and their holidays, can't we go over there, invade and make them toe the line with their holiday tele arrangements!?!
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: captainhaircut on January 17, 2006, 03:30:52 AM its confirmed then, andy is our official lost thread leader. i have faith that he won't let us down. more jack centric episodes don't fill me with excitement like. more locke, jin, eko or sawyer i say! screw the rest of the loser survivors.
Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 17, 2006, 03:40:03 AM To be fair, I reckon after this episode this is where it will get a bit flat. They make too many episodes, so it's hard to keep with the excitement, in my opinion. I'll still watch it, knowing full well as it gets closer to the end of the series it'll more than pick-up.
After all (hope I'm not alone in this thinking) it was round about this episode in the first series that it got a bit stale, if not boring. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 17, 2006, 08:46:42 AM To be fair, I reckon after this episode this is where it will get a bit flat. They make too many episodes, so it's hard to keep with the excitement, in my opinion. I'll still watch it, knowing full well as it gets closer to the end of the series it'll more than pick-up. After all (hope I'm not alone in this thinking) it was round about this episode in the first series that it got a bit stale, if not boring. Problem with the first season was that they only had just over a half season (15 episodes) intially planned, so they had to add a few more to stretch it out a bit. This season, they've come into it knowing that they'll be making 23; so, whilst I do think there will be some more character-based episodes (like episodes 4 and 5), they should still be more interesting than last year's. Title: Re: LOST Season TWO *Contains Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 17, 2006, 11:01:12 AM Good to hear then. Ridiculous the amount of episodes these Americans shows try to shove down your throat like.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on January 17, 2006, 07:30:03 PM more jack centric episodes don't fill me with excitement like. That's what I thought at first. But when you think about it a little more; the Jack-centric episodes have all been top class really, flashbacks aside. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Jonny2J on January 17, 2006, 07:38:28 PM ah just bought Series 1 the day before my last exam bluesigh.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *May Contain Entire Season One Spoilers* Post by: Andy on January 17, 2006, 08:10:56 PM Download for the latest podcast is now included in the first post of the thread.
It's pretty interesting, as ever. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Decky on January 18, 2006, 12:13:28 PM i think the podcasts are abit s*** like, what all is in them
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm* Post by: Andy on January 18, 2006, 01:45:28 PM The podcasts are brilliant you heathen.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 18, 2006, 08:37:09 PM its official, i prefer this to 24, and that takes one hell of a program to do that:
my views on the monster: IMO it doesn't know what its showing you, or rather it does, but it didn't know all this stuff about echo, its merely showing echo all the defining moments in his life like a mirror. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Adam^ on January 18, 2006, 10:08:55 PM Ep 11 what time is the showing in the USA ?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 18, 2006, 10:10:26 PM Is it not 4am tomorrow night?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Geordiesned on January 18, 2006, 10:10:40 PM Ep 11 what time is the showing in the USA ? About 2 in the morning. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 18, 2006, 10:11:41 PM Evidently not. All the better.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Geordiesned on January 18, 2006, 10:54:40 PM Evidently not. All the better. I said "about 2". 4 is "about" 2! :lol: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: captainhaircut on January 19, 2006, 02:25:59 PM wow, i'm first. my thoughts in white.
great episode as always. good to see jack being less than perfect for once. some good alpha male competition, some great stuff with the others, or one other to be precise. the ending was amazing. Liking where jacks head is at for once. An Army ffs. Should just send eko in with his jesus stick like, but sounds good to me. Going to be a great final stretch of the series. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Bellars on January 19, 2006, 04:14:22 PM Couple things that I noticed/am speculating about:
-Michael headed into unknown territory, as pointed out by Locke. His straight path suggests that he was told to go to a specific location to meet up with Walt. He could have been instructed to do so on the computer last episode, or an unseen part of this one. -Did anyone else see the gun that the boatman was holding? It looked ancient. This could suggest that the Others are not well equipped with firearms, as the boatman was very intent on the Losties leaving their weapons behind with him. Perhaps they were lurred away so that the Others could get their firearms...? -The boatman asked 'Alex' to release Kate, though we never see his face. For those of you who don't remember, Alex is the name of Rousseau's child who the Others kidnapped so many years ago. He must be around 16 years old. -The fact that the others allowed the Losties to live is also confusing. Perhaps they need them for something...maybe to push the button. It seems like if they really wanted to end the conflict with the Castaways they would have done so already. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 19, 2006, 05:19:57 PM Another solid episode. Not as good as last week like, but the combination of the major event (can't be arsed to post it in white, so I'll just say that for now) and the very last line have pretty much set up the run-in towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Adam^ on January 19, 2006, 05:25:06 PM Sounds like Ep 11 is really good its downloading now , oing to do some revision then watch it later on.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Geordiesned on January 19, 2006, 06:43:31 PM Damn, just downloading this now and have over 4 hours to wait!!! Would have got it quicker but for technical problems with my usual supplier. :wink:
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: chip2388 on January 19, 2006, 08:21:14 PM Forgot all about this week's episode!
Anyone PM me a link? I'm not use to downloading then so soon after its been shown in the US Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: ticaL on January 19, 2006, 08:55:36 PM Thoughts on Ep. 11 in white;
Good episode, but did Sawyer get shot in the shoulder or not, can't really see if he did or didn't on the copy. Also, I heard the Alex reference that Bellars pointed out, it's probable that it could be Rousseau's child. Also, I'd assume Michael is going to be found again pretty soon...before the war! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 19, 2006, 09:00:47 PM I thought he was shot in the ear. Could be wrong, I guess. Need to be some shot too.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Southern Geordie on January 19, 2006, 10:23:05 PM Could somebody PM me a link to a real episode 11 please :)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 20, 2006, 04:39:56 PM GREAT ENDING! bluebiggrin.gif bluebiggrin.gif bluebiggrin.gif bluebiggrin.gif
who do these guys really have that are a match for the others? Anna-Lucia Jack Eko Sawyer Locke Sayid Kate Mike That one who ran off cant wait till this all kicks off. also where is sayid, he's not been seen since he found out where they were, and although that could be explained that we haven't visited the hatch since, if you would ask someone about training an army, it'd be an ex member of the republican guard would it not? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: chip2388 on January 20, 2006, 07:19:38 PM No one with a link?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 20, 2006, 08:49:08 PM Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: chip2388 on January 20, 2006, 08:55:46 PM Cheers to optimistic nit and indigo for the links!
Just under an hour left now Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Adam^ on January 20, 2006, 10:51:10 PM Was good episode althought i felt as if nothing had really happened.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: chip2388 on January 20, 2006, 11:13:19 PM Another good episode liked the story with Jack, certainly i didn't expect it. Rest of the series is all set up now.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 20, 2006, 11:27:58 PM Not going to bother with white as most people seem to have seen it now.
I think the most important thing to happen in this episode, apart from possibly the others bit, was the signs of increasing tension between many of the characters. Sayid didn't look to chuffed that the other action-hero type people had gone off without him, Jack and Kate have fallen out because he can't handle that she doesn't fancy him any more, Locke increasingly seems to look at most people with a certain amount of disdain, Jin is under the thumb, Charlie is blatantly about to fall off the waggon, and well Michael is doing his, somewhat overly stereotypical, "crazy black-man" routine!! If Jack wants to start an army, he's going to have to stop a civil war taking place first!! I can see it all kicking off pretty soon. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: jasonx_102 on January 20, 2006, 11:40:53 PM I didnt think it was very good tbh. They could have asked the others questions. Even if they were the others. There's no concrete proof. When Jack said about Ethan all The fat bloke said was ' Is that what you think'. Only good bit was the last line and sawyer pissing off Jack really. Locke was good as always. I hope Charlie dies soon.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: allmo4001 on January 20, 2006, 11:51:00 PM I didnt think it was very good tbh. They could have asked the others questions. Even if they were the others. There's no concrete proof. When Jack said about Ethan all The fat bloke said was ' Is that what you think'. Only good bit was the last line and sawyer pissing off Jack really. Locke was good as always. I hope Charlie dies soon. If it was what you like, it would'nt be much of a mystery. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 21, 2006, 12:09:08 AM I've updated the schedule on page one; some slight changes.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: ticaL on January 21, 2006, 12:35:48 AM Oh! fancy, agree with the ratings. I'm guessing this episode will be the shittest one yet though...
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 21, 2006, 12:45:26 AM Some insider news for you:
C4 are going to so Lost season two earlier than intended, in "The Spring", ie before the end of the present run of Desperate Housewives finishes, therefore it will move to Sunday evenings around about the time Invasion is on. Fascinating isn't it!?! ;) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 21, 2006, 12:17:25 PM Not going to bother with white as most people seem to have seen it now. I think the most important thing to happen in this episode, apart from possibly the others bit, was the signs of increasing tension between many of the characters. Sayid didn't look to chuffed that the other action-hero type people had gone off without him, Jack and Kate have fallen out because he can't handle that she doesn't fancy him any more, Locke increasingly seems to look at most people with a certain amount of disdain, Jin is under the thumb, Charlie is blatantly about to fall off the waggon, and well Michael is doing his, somewhat overly stereotypical, "crazy black-man" routine!! If Jack wants to start an army, he's going to have to stop a civil war taking place first!! I can see it all kicking off pretty soon. i also think that he's going to have to start taking orders soon. he's no army commander and i'm willing to bet that Sayid, Locke, Anna-Lucia, Eko and even Sawyer and kate, know more about fighting than he does. another point, imo the 'monster' is part of the network of others (hence how they know so much about locke and the rest) and standing up to that could be important. imo the others know their biggest threats are locke and eko, so these charicters will be important in the next few episodes. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 21, 2006, 01:40:21 PM Something I've just thought of:
Who gave "the others", the title, "the others"? Answer: Danielle. "Others", implying a similarity, between the person doing the describing and those they are describing. So other, what? Well it could just be other human beings, but I hope, and think, not. So what do we know about Danielle, that could be the same as the others? Well, she's a woman, it's not that. She's French, well "Zeike" didn't sound very French to me. She's a scientist, aha!! that's possible. And what do we know about the island? It was used for scientific research. And what did "Zeike" say? "This is our island." So, my theory is: The "others" are other scientists, probably the original Dharma scientists, hence the "our island" claim. What do you lot reckon? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 21, 2006, 01:51:02 PM i think that too.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 21, 2006, 01:56:50 PM I was watching the Exodus episodes again last night. Remember Claire, (is it Claire, the one that had the baby anyway), she remembers something, attacking Dannielle. Scratches her down her arm. Why, if it was Ethan that took her? This could've been answered, but I've missed it, if so.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 21, 2006, 02:01:12 PM Well Danielle did take her Baby, but I don't remember it all clearly.
Where's Andy when you need him!?! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Bellars on January 21, 2006, 05:38:00 PM Well Danielle did take her Baby, but I don't remember it all clearly. Where's Andy when you need him!?! Ethan took Claire when she was pregnant. She 'escaped,' passed out, and woke up with no memory of her time on the Island. Ethan then tried to get her back, but was killed by Charlie. Danielle returns to the castaway's camp and is fascinated with the child. Claire sees the scratches on Danielle's arm and remembers scratching Danielle while she was kidnapped. Earlier, Sayid saw the scratches and asked Danielle where she got them, but she replied that they were from a bush. She takes the child, hoping that she can use it as a barganing tool with the Others to get her own child back. She was unsuccessful though. So it's still unknown why Danielle was around Claire during the time of Claire's kidnapping, and why Claire scratched her. It's just another unanswered question. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: 80 on January 21, 2006, 05:42:13 PM I'd like to know someone didn't ask an obvious question - if The Others don't want them on the island, but are "letting" them stay, for now, wouldn't it be a win-win situation if they helped them get off and away from the island?
Thanks to indigo in particular for helping me get involved in this thread :D Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 21, 2006, 05:47:16 PM I'd like to know someone didn't ask an obvious question - if The Others don't want them on the island, but are "letting" them stay, for now, wouldn't it be a win-win situation if they helped them get off and away from the island? Thanks to indigo in particular for helping me get involved in this thread :D No probs. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 21, 2006, 05:48:58 PM i think the others need people to be in the hatch, but they dont want to do it themselves.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 21, 2006, 07:49:36 PM Well Danielle did take her Baby, but I don't remember it all clearly. Where's Andy when you need him!?! Ethan took Claire when she was pregnant. She 'escaped,' passed out, and woke up with no memory of her time on the Island. Ethan then tried to get her back, but was killed by Charlie. Danielle returns to the castaway's camp and is fascinated with the child. Claire sees the scratches on Danielle's arm and remembers scratching Danielle while she was kidnapped. Earlier, Sayid saw the scratches and asked Danielle where she got them, but she replied that they were from a bush. She takes the child, hoping that she can use it as a barganing tool with the Others to get her own child back. She was unsuccessful though. So it's still unknown why Danielle was around Claire during the time of Claire's kidnapping, and why Claire scratched her. It's just another unanswered question. Obviously hasn't been revealed yet, but maybe Danielle saved Claire from Ethan, and that's how she turned up randomly one night, in series 1. Long shot, but might explain her random re-appearance. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 21, 2006, 08:25:05 PM Some insider news for you: C4 are going to so Lost season two earlier than intended, in "The Spring", ie before the end of the present run of Desperate Housewives finishes, therefore it will move to Sunday evenings around about the time Invasion is on. Fascinating isn't it!?! ;) I saw that advertised on Channel 4, but I'm told that June/July is more accurate than "spring". Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 21, 2006, 08:26:21 PM Well Danielle did take her Baby, but I don't remember it all clearly. Where's Andy when you need him!?! Ethan took Claire when she was pregnant. She 'escaped,' passed out, and woke up with no memory of her time on the Island. Ethan then tried to get her back, but was killed by Charlie. Danielle returns to the castaway's camp and is fascinated with the child. Claire sees the scratches on Danielle's arm and remembers scratching Danielle while she was kidnapped. Earlier, Sayid saw the scratches and asked Danielle where she got them, but she replied that they were from a bush. She takes the child, hoping that she can use it as a barganing tool with the Others to get her own child back. She was unsuccessful though. So it's still unknown why Danielle was around Claire during the time of Claire's kidnapping, and why Claire scratched her. It's just another unanswered question. Obviously hasn't been revealed yet, but maybe Danielle saved Claire from Ethan, and that's how she turned up randomly one night, in series 1. Long shot, but might explain her random re-appearance. Good call Bluf!! That's just about a perfect theory, because it's been made to look like Danielle was "bad", so that's obviously not what's really going on... ....unless they're double bluffing us!?! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 21, 2006, 08:28:42 PM It wouldn't surprise me, Indigo. It being a double bluff, I mean.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 21, 2006, 08:39:40 PM Lost set to lose slot in C4 schedule move
19 January 2006 08:30 Channel 4 has decided to push forward its airing of the second season of US hit Lost, meaning the drama series will probably have to find a new timeslot. The broadcaster confirmed the second series of the Disney show, currently airing in the US, would debut in the spring. C4 has just started airing the second series of imported hit Desperate Housewives in the Wednesday 10pm slot and is unlikely to move the show. One possibility is that Lost will relocate to Sunday night where C4 has found success with another US sci-fi drama, Invasion. The two shows already air back to back on ABC in the US. Source:broadcastnow.co.uk https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/frames/master.asp?sid=23&aid=155904 Don't know if you can get to the above link without a subscription. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 22, 2006, 06:37:02 PM Yeah, I read that too.
The guy I'm getting my info off works for endemol UK, so he works pretty closely with Channel 4. He reckons that channel 4 are using 'spring' in pretty much the loosest sense of the word, and that early summer would be more likely (so that they can attempt to get at least somewhat consistent annual ratings). I have known him to be wrong like; but only rarely. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 22, 2006, 06:45:50 PM PS. In other GREAT GREAT GREAT news, it's almost 100% certain that JJ Abrams will return to the writing and directing side of LOST in season 3; immediately after he's finished working on Mission Imposible, and the Alias finale.
:banana: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Geordiesned on January 22, 2006, 06:52:19 PM i think the others need people to be in the hatch, but they dont want to do it themselves. The thing is, the bearded "other" said that they'd "opened doors that weren't theirs to open" whilst looking at Locke. He was obviously talking about Locke blowing open the hatch so they themselves must know about the hatch and the bunker. I think this adds weight to the theory that they're all scientists though. Good spot on the "other" holding Kate being called Alex, the same name as Danielle's son. I missed that one. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 22, 2006, 07:20:53 PM i think the others need people to be in the hatch, but they dont want to do it themselves. The thing is, the bearded "other" said that they'd "opened doors that weren't theirs to open" whilst looking at Locke. He was obviously talking about Locke blowing open the hatch so they themselves must know about the hatch and the bunker. I think this adds weight to the theory that they're all scientists though. Good spot on the "other" holding Kate being called Alex, the same name as Danielle's son. I missed that one. imo its like cause and effect. they caused the one who was doing it at the moment to leave, and thus they now have to do it. they would rather whats his name did it, but now he's left, they need them to do it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 22, 2006, 08:24:54 PM PS. In other GREAT GREAT GREAT news, it's almost 100% certain that JJ Abrams will return to the writing and directing side of LOST in season 3; immediately after he's finished working on Mission Imposible, and the Alias finale. :banana: Sorry, but the lack of positive response to this is depressing. KING JJ IS COMING BACK TO MAKE LOST EVEN MORE STUPIDLY AWESOME THAN IT ALREADY IS FFS Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 22, 2006, 08:25:52 PM :lol:
WHO CARES!?! bluewink.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 22, 2006, 08:33:24 PM EVERYONE! Abrams wrote and directed 'Pilot', 'Exodus' and 'Man of Science, Man of Faith'. All stupidly good episodes.
He's supposedly coming back to either write and direct, or do behind-the-scenes stuff for EVERY SINGLE EPISODE in season 3! (Note: lack of positive response by normal members will result in IP bans) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 22, 2006, 08:44:13 PM Those were particularly good episodes, must admit. Didn't realise he had much input.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 22, 2006, 08:54:22 PM I think he's had more of a long-distance input on the show over the past year or so, he's only wrote and directed/co-wrote and directed the odd episode here and there.
Other good news is that there's also episodes coming up this season from David Fury, who wrote "Walkabout" and "Numbers" last season, and a special episode directed by Darren Aronofsky who directed the films "PI" and "Requiem for a Dream". Both really worth looking forward to. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: indi on January 22, 2006, 09:15:31 PM .....a special episode directed by Darren Aronofsky who directed the films "PI" and "Requiem for a Dream". Now that's really worth getting excited about!! Apart from, I already knew, because you told me before, meaning I've used up most of this year's excitement quota, in advance!! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: captainhaircut on January 22, 2006, 10:30:20 PM EVERYONE! Abrams wrote and directed 'Pilot', 'Exodus' and 'Man of Science, Man of Faith'. All stupidly good episodes. He's supposedly coming back to either write and direct, or do behind-the-scenes stuff for EVERY SINGLE EPISODE in season 3! (Note: lack of positive response by normal members will result in IP bans) great stuff! but who wrote and directed deux ex machina. we all know thats the best episode! :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 22, 2006, 11:10:51 PM EVERYONE! Abrams wrote and directed 'Pilot', 'Exodus' and 'Man of Science, Man of Faith'. All stupidly good episodes. He's supposedly coming back to either write and direct, or do behind-the-scenes stuff for EVERY SINGLE EPISODE in season 3! (Note: lack of positive response by normal members will result in IP bans) great stuff! but who wrote and directed deux ex machina. we all know thats the best episode! :tongue3: Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, who've written a lot of the episodes (most recently The 23rd Psalm). Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: captainhaircut on January 23, 2006, 12:04:49 AM lindelof and cuse are great crack on the podcasts. when they acted out the first meeting between locke and eko it was wondeful. 'Hello' 'Hello'. the 23rd psalm was a great episode as well like. j.j. abrams is the lost messiah mind you. the brains behind it all. apparently he's a sawyer and kate man as well, while some of the other writers prefer the kate-jack relationship.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Decky on January 23, 2006, 06:54:15 PM are there no previews for the next episode?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 23, 2006, 06:59:42 PM Yeah, fist page of the thread.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 11: The Hunting Party* Post by: Andy on January 23, 2006, 07:33:36 PM Yeah, I read that too. The guy I'm getting my info off works for endemol UK, so he works pretty closely with Channel 4. He reckons that channel 4 are using 'spring' in pretty much the loosest sense of the word, and that early summer would be more likely (so that they can attempt to get at least somewhat consistent annual ratings). I have known him to be wrong like; but only rarely. Speaking to him today; he reckons the exact date will be the 26th of May - a Friday - either directly before or after the Big Brother launch show. From then on, it will air in between Big Brother's eviction shows every friday night. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 25, 2006, 07:53:23 PM Interesting comment in this week's "ask ausellio" about Libby (in white):
Quote Is it possible that Lost's Libby is not a doctor, but a ********** ****? Ausiello: That's what I'm hearing, yes. Can anybody work out what the censored words are? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Geordiesned on January 25, 2006, 10:46:36 PM "Filthy slag"?
No, that doesn't fit. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 25, 2006, 10:50:27 PM Psychiatric nurse is a couple of letters out, are there the exact number of stars in your quote Andy?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 25, 2006, 10:56:04 PM https://www.tvguide.com/news/askausiello/
Half way down the page. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 25, 2006, 11:18:43 PM Interesting comment in this week's "ask ausellio" about Libby (in white): Quote Is it possible that Lost's Libby is not a doctor, but a ********** ****? Ausiello: That's what I'm hearing, yes. Can anybody work out what the censored words are? Scientific... something? God knows. Thought Scientific nurse, but that doesn't really make sense. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 25, 2006, 11:45:28 PM It's veterinary + something.
Grad? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: ewerk on January 26, 2006, 05:23:39 PM Well I've now watched all the first series and what has been shown of the 2nd series in a couple of weeks so I can finally view this thread.
I'd like to know someone didn't ask an obvious question - if The Others don't want them on the island, but are "letting" them stay, for now, wouldn't it be a win-win situation if they helped them get off and away from the island? If the survivors got off then the rest of the world would find out about the island which the others wouldn't want, they don't seem to want their way of life or whatever they are doing disturbed. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: captainhaircut on January 26, 2006, 06:19:58 PM me first again i guess. weird. my thoughts in white.
Not particularly good. only beaten for worst episode of the season by lost...and found. charlie annoys the s*** out of me. was a very strange storyline. seems a lot of the survivors are losing it a bit- charlie and locke in particular. also a week off now which is no good at all but we have a sawyer-centric episode to look forward to. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Bellars on January 26, 2006, 06:23:39 PM Anyone PM me to tell me how I can download this ep? Missed the airing.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 26, 2006, 07:17:39 PM Thought that was an okayish episode; it reminded me a bit of some of the character development stuff from last season ("Whatever the Case may be" etc). It WAS enjoyable enough; but there was just a few too many bizarre things happening, mixed with somewhat dramatic shifts in some of the character's personalities (I think this will be explained before too long), at slightly too slow a pace for it too be fully enjoyed.
In saying that though, I do think we needed a pace-changing episode, because quite a fair bit's happened recently with all these 'Others' showing up out of the blue, and the sudden re-introduction of our good mate Smokey the Smoke Cloud (albeit brief). "The Long Con" looks quite promising from the preview (as you'd expect from a Sawyer episode), and as long as it's done right (it will be) I'm sure it'll set-up the rest of the season quite nicely. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Adam^ on January 26, 2006, 07:29:34 PM Good episode made me feel sorry for charlie though. Good episiode but one question ( in white)
Why did loc put the staues in the safe and not destroy them? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 26, 2006, 07:30:58 PM I haven't seen it, but I presume it's so he has a choice.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 26, 2006, 07:34:35 PM Good episode made me feel sorry for charlie though. Good episiode but one question ( in white) Why did locke put the staues in the safe and not destroy them? Who knows..? Locke was particularly out of character in this episode though; probably keeping them for himself tbh. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: chip2388 on January 26, 2006, 08:54:59 PM Just finished downloading it.
Cheers to Indigo again for the link! Top man Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Bellars on January 26, 2006, 09:03:28 PM Thanks for the link, Haircut.
My own theory about Locke: Heroine is an opiate, similar to morphine. Perhaps during whatever injury put Locke in his wheelchair, he was given morphine to ease his pain. Often times it is very easy to become addicted to morphine, like heroine. Perhaps Locke turned to morphine to ease his pain following his crippling injury. Even though he may not be using now, he may get a feeling of security by having the morphine in his possession. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 26, 2006, 09:21:44 PM Thanks for the link, Haircut. My own theory about Locke: Heroine is an opiate, similar to morphine. Perhaps during whatever injury put Locke in his wheelchair, he was given morphine to ease his pain. Often times it is very easy to become addicted to morphine, like heroine. Perhaps Locke turned to morphine to ease his pain following his crippling injury. Even though he may not be using now, he may get a feeling of security by having the morphine in his possession. Good point, well I would say that, because it's what I though as well. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 26, 2006, 09:24:24 PM Seen it now. Comments:
I suppose that's plausible, but why not just go take them from the plane when he had the chance? He could've picked them up then, and all the easier as no one would've known. But then, it's not like Lost to be logical. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: 80 on January 26, 2006, 09:27:36 PM Well I've now watched all the first series and what has been shown of the 2nd series in a couple of weeks so I can finally view this thread. I'd like to know someone didn't ask an obvious question - if The Others don't want them on the island, but are "letting" them stay, for now, wouldn't it be a win-win situation if they helped them get off and away from the island? If the survivors got off then the rest of the world would find out about the island which the others wouldn't want, they don't seem to want their way of life or whatever they are doing disturbed. I agree, if that was their response, that'd be fine. What I find a bit strange is that none of the survivors never even thought to ask - or say anything along those lines. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 26, 2006, 10:22:37 PM Seen it now. Comments: I suppose that's plausible, but why not just go take them from the plane when he had the chance? He could've picked them up then, and all the easier as no one would've known. But then, it's not like Lost to be logical. Bluf: Aha!! but did you see Locke's face when Charlie told him that he and Echo had burnt the plane?? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 26, 2006, 10:38:39 PM Fair point. Always one to dampen things, but I think this is where the series will get frustrating. That episode certainly made me feel like that. In white:
Locke certainly was out of character. Considering he belted Sayid around the back of the head and destroyed his radio equipment, and more or less lead Boome(sp?) to his death, then lied about both, you'd think he'd be a bit more forgiven. He's lied more than enough himself. Atleast Charlie is an addict, and was tempted by an overwhelming amount of heroin. Locke shot down in my eyes, still one of my favourite characters though. For now. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 27, 2006, 12:06:08 AM Browsing through the image gallery for 'The Long Con' on lost-media, I noticed the following image:
This is from episode 13, click at your own risk! (https://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x13-longcon/lifeconpromo04.jpg) In white: This appears to be solid confirmation that there are more than one group of "others". It immediately stands out that the "other" dragging away Sun is dressed similarly to Ethan and Goodwin; smart and well presented, rather than the hobo-like Zeke and his merry crew of bandits. My guess is that Ethan's group were part of Danielle's research team who've perhaps become 'sick', and Zeke and co. are part of the DHARMA initiative, as was pretty much clarified with they're apparent knowledge of the hatch, and Zeke's Alvar Hanso quote; "a man much wiser than us once said (etc etc etc)"... On top that, Zeke said that their group wouldn't "cross the line", as long as Jack's group didn't. Let's assume that the above is true. Here's my theory about the two groups (and this is really disjointed in my head, so f*** knows how it'll read on here); Ethan's group were on the island long before the DHARMA Initiative and their employees (Zeke's group) arrived, and they consider them a threat to their own survival. At some point there was an "incident" caused by Ethan's group; and Zeke's group were forced to abandon the DHARMA stations and take to full-on survival on the island. Anyway, a few weeks/months/years down the line, our bunch of happy holiday makers conveniently WHACK into the island; adding a further threat to Ethan's group. In response, his group carefully infiltrate our survivors; to get a feel for their numbers, and their various strengths and weaknesses. They decide that they can't kill every single person without sacrifice, so instead try to set our group off against Zeke's group. They somehow make our group look like bad guys to Zeke, and use some kind of bargaining device (perhaps food, technology... boats) to get his group to kidnap Walt, and make them look the bad guys to our lot. They then later direct Michael towards Walt, knowing that the rest of the group would follow; setting up the conflict between the groups. Then, they make an deliberately failed kidnap on Sun, to encourage our group to prepare for ALL OUT WAR on Zeke. At the end of episode 23, we'll see Ethan's ghost smugly strutting through the jungle smoking a cigar, as he watches the two groups haplessly kill one another. Okay so - on the whole - that theory's s***, contradictory and confusing; but I reckon some of it's still pretty damned close BROTHERS. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 27, 2006, 12:14:51 AM I'm going to resist reading that at the moment.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 27, 2006, 12:18:42 AM In White:
I've always thought Locke has dubious motives and that he might "be up to something". I can see him come crashing down at some point, when I look in my crystal ball. Also, where the f*** has Sayid been for ages!?! It's about time he came back into the limelight, as he's (in my opinion) the best character. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: captainhaircut on January 27, 2006, 05:53:33 AM good theory andy, but i avoid praising/agreeing with/ posting theories because lost has a habit of blowing theories out of the water once the next episode has been aired. 5 to 7 series of this show will surely be far too long for us to got without significant answers, although we'll apparently find out why the plane crashed by the end of this series. also did you all notice how shifty libby was when hurley said he knew her. dodgy as f*ck.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 27, 2006, 11:17:56 AM I'm going to resist reading that at the moment. Don't worry, it's just a s*** theory about "the others" that I wacked out in five minutes last night; no real spoilers other than those we can already speculate about from previous episodes. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Southern Geordie on January 27, 2006, 01:08:58 PM Could somebody please PM me a link.. Many thanks
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 27, 2006, 03:08:15 PM ANDY: in white
i have a slightly different theory, if indeed there are 2 groups of others. i think that it may be possable that zeke's group were kidnapping the tail section, to try and capture the infiltrator. because when he was killed, they stopped attacking. also our group killed the infiltrator early, and thus didn't hear from zekes group apart from about walt. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: ewerk on January 27, 2006, 05:04:13 PM Good episode made me feel sorry for charlie though. Good episiode but one question ( in white) Why did loc put the staues in the safe and not destroy them? He could possibly be keeping them in order to use them against Charlie? Either planting them on him or tempting him to start using again. Perhaps he doesn't want Charlie to be near Claire and the child for reasons other than his using. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 27, 2006, 11:57:28 PM I took at as just being the obvious way for the writers to reintroduce the drugs plot in future, should they want to.
I doubt it will ever be fully explained. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: ewerk on January 28, 2006, 01:31:33 AM By the way what was the reference to the London skyline as promised in the podcast? I didn't notice any skyline.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 28, 2006, 01:41:55 AM By the way what was the reference to the London skyline as promised in the podcast? I didn't notice any skyline. The whole Charlie flashback was littered with hackneyed stereotypes and cliches. Did anyone notice that his mum had a shocking Yorkshire/Lancashire hybrid of an accent, yet his brother was somwhow a cockney. Not to mention, the red phonebox and the blokes around a fire in a dustbin!! Really crappy and way too sloppy, to be perfectly honest, spoilt the episode really, for me anyway. :) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 28, 2006, 09:03:00 AM By the way what was the reference to the London skyline as promised in the podcast? I didn't notice any skyline. The easter egg was Battersea Power Station supposedly; don't ask me what relevance it has to LOST though. They said in the podcast there was a "sign" on it, but I couldn't see one; I presume it needs to be viewed in ultra-high res to make it out. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 28, 2006, 09:14:18 AM Digging around the net, it appears there's a poster that says
LOST CAT [Image of cat] MISSING FOR 3 WEEKS PLEASE CALL 020 7919 1110 REWARD Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: jasonx_102 on January 28, 2006, 10:02:49 AM Didn't think the episode was that good. Still ok though. Any thats what I said earlier on about Zeke. They are not with Ethan's Crew. Definately. Put money on it.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: 80 on January 28, 2006, 11:20:59 AM By the way what was the reference to the London skyline as promised in the podcast? I didn't notice any skyline. The whole Charlie flashback was littered with hackneyed stereotypes and cliches. Did anyone notice that his mum had a shocking Yorkshire/Lancashire hybrid of an accent, yet his brother was somwhow a cockney. I don't know if it was deliberate, but it sounded like a totally messed up Irish accent, to me. Thinking about it, that would tie in with them being Roman Catholics. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 28, 2006, 11:56:06 AM Digging around the net, it appears there's a poster that says LOST CAT [Image of cat] MISSING FOR 3 WEEKS PLEASE CALL 020 7919 1110 REWARD Have you tried calling the number? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 28, 2006, 12:46:23 PM No, I prefer my phone bill to stay within double figures.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 28, 2006, 06:17:04 PM 020 is a london code.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Adam^ on January 28, 2006, 06:31:58 PM Somebody should ring them number you might get a reward you never know.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 28, 2006, 06:35:44 PM Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 28, 2006, 06:46:21 PM Ok, is it 147 that withholds your number? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 28, 2006, 06:57:52 PM 141, I think.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 28, 2006, 07:00:35 PM Ok, I dialed that number and you get a strange sounding ringing tone, but nobody answered.
It's 141, by the way, to withold your number. I'll try it again some other time, if I get anything, other than abuse from some cockney, who's sick of Losties ringing him up, then I'll let you know. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 29, 2006, 01:31:10 PM I've added a few new bits to the schedule for upcoming episodes.
Episode 14 sounds particularly interesting... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: BlufPurdi on January 29, 2006, 06:52:44 PM I phoned it, let it ring for ages. Goes to some voice-mail thing, but doesn't say anything other than that. "Welcome to BT voice-mail", just hung up after that.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Decky on January 29, 2006, 10:34:47 PM This pic was taken from a TV called Veronica Mars
(https://img54.imageshack.us/img54/829/vmlost8qp.jpg) theres them numbers again Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 29, 2006, 11:18:22 PM according to one of the podcasts that i'm working my way through, DHARMA is an acronym. any guess'?
A= association? M= medical? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Geordiesned on January 30, 2006, 08:28:44 PM D = Disease?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: jasonx_102 on January 30, 2006, 09:06:52 PM H - Hardbastards?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 30, 2006, 09:19:26 PM Dental Health Assosciation Really Magnificently Awesome?
Zeke's group are dentists, and ethan's group have bad teeth; that's why ethan's group are afraid of Zeke's group... Also, Jack and co have nice teeth, so it's obviously no co-incidence that Zeke's group were relatively friendly towards them, and they're still alive. I'VE SUSSED IT Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on January 30, 2006, 09:21:56 PM Doesn't Have Any Real Meaning Anyway!?!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 31, 2006, 01:35:44 PM I've always thought Locke has dubious motives and that he might "be up to something". I can see him come crashing down at some point, when I look in my crystal ball. My own theory is that we're starting to see the "sickness" that Danielle mentioned develop. Locke, ever since mid-way through season one, has had vivid dreams, and has started to show obsessive behaviour about the hatch, the button and other such stuff; and is now starting to show an evil, moody side to his character. Lately, Charlie has also had vivid dreams, and has ALSO started to show similar obsessive behaviour, and different sides to his character himself. It'll be interesting to see whether Charlie now starts to go down the same path as locke, and whether these things turn out to be the sickness' symptoms. This could also link in with our friend Smokey the Smoke Cloud. When locke first saw the so-called "security system" it did nothing to him, but when he next saw it, it attacked him. Could it be that the second time he saw it he'd already contracted the sickness, and that's the reason for the attack? Perhaps the security system's function is actually to quarantine anyone that's sick, by either kiling them outright, or dragging them down a hole (thus stopping the sickness spreading, and to paraphrase Danielle; protecting the island.)? Claire is the only other one who's had vivid dreams, and perhaps shown the early signs of sickness; but they stopped when she returned from Ethan. My guess is that Ethan's group have a vaccine (similar to desmond's) and their only intention when taking Claire was to cure her and the baby. The reason they were so aggresive in the way they went about it was because they were so desperate to control it, and prevent it further spreading around the island. Thoughts? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Bellars on January 31, 2006, 04:33:42 PM I've always thought Locke has dubious motives and that he might "be up to something". I can see him come crashing down at some point, when I look in my crystal ball. My own theory is that we're starting to see the "sickness" that Danielle mentioned develop. Locke, ever since mid-way through season one, has had vivid dreams, and has started to show obsessive behaviour about the hatch, the button and other such stuff; and is now starting to show an evil, moody side to his character. Lately, Charlie has also had vivid dreams, and has ALSO started to show similar obsessive behaviour, and different sides to his character himself. It'll be interesting to see whether Charlie now starts to go down the same path as locke, and whether these things turn out to be the sickness' symptoms. This could also link in with our friend Smokey the Smoke Cloud. When locke first saw the so-called "security system" it did nothing to him, but when he next saw it, it attacked him. Could it be that the second time he saw it he'd already contracted the sickness, and that's the reason for the attack? Perhaps the security system's function is actually to quarantine anyone that's sick, by either kiling them outright, or dragging them down a hole (thus stopping the sickness spreading, and to paraphrase Danielle; protecting the island.)? Claire is the only other one who's had vivid dreams, and perhaps shown the early signs of sickness; but they stopped when she returned from Ethan. My guess is that Ethan's group have a vaccine (similar to desmond's) and their only intention when taking Claire was to cure her and the baby. The reason they were so aggresive in the way they went about it was because they were so desperate to control it, and prevent it further spreading around the island. Thoughts? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: scum on January 31, 2006, 04:36:07 PM according to one of the podcasts that i'm working my way through, DHARMA is an acronym. any guess'? A= association? M= medical? maybe its an anagram for MARDHA, that sounds like the scottish word for murder, and the guy pressing the button was scottish, I think were just clutching at straws now :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on January 31, 2006, 04:44:51 PM www.thedifferencebetweenananagramandanacronym.com ;)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 31, 2006, 05:04:37 PM I've always thought Locke has dubious motives and that he might "be up to something". I can see him come crashing down at some point, when I look in my crystal ball. My own theory is that we're starting to see the "sickness" that Danielle mentioned develop. Locke, ever since mid-way through season one, has had vivid dreams, and has started to show obsessive behaviour about the hatch, the button and other such stuff; and is now starting to show an evil, moody side to his character. Lately, Charlie has also had vivid dreams, and has ALSO started to show similar obsessive behaviour, and different sides to his character himself. It'll be interesting to see whether Charlie now starts to go down the same path as locke, and whether these things turn out to be the sickness' symptoms. This could also link in with our friend Smokey the Smoke Cloud. When locke first saw the so-called "security system" it did nothing to him, but when he next saw it, it attacked him. Could it be that the second time he saw it he'd already contracted the sickness, and that's the reason for the attack? Perhaps the security system's function is actually to quarantine anyone that's sick, by either kiling them outright, or dragging them down a hole (thus stopping the sickness spreading, and to paraphrase Danielle; protecting the island.)? Claire is the only other one who's had vivid dreams, and perhaps shown the early signs of sickness; but they stopped when she returned from Ethan. My guess is that Ethan's group have a vaccine (similar to desmond's) and their only intention when taking Claire was to cure her and the baby. The reason they were so aggresive in the way they went about it was because they were so desperate to control it, and prevent it further spreading around the island. Thoughts? The horse was probably real; fitting in with the zoology experiments and suchlike. I dunno about jack's dad, but you can include the visions of Walt in with him as well. The way I see it is; they weren't 'dreams' in the true sense of the word, so they either were real, or they were hallucinations that were being caused by something. The obvious answer is tiredness, but - interestingly - research into electromagnatism in real life has suggested that it can send your brain into all kinds of states under extreme exposure, and can cause effects similar to that of high-level hallucingens... So read into that what you will. ps. some new stuff added to the thread's opening post. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on January 31, 2006, 10:24:36 PM Dunno if anyone's posted this site before, but it's the best Lost site I've come across yet; some very interesting reading:
https://lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Decky on February 02, 2006, 10:36:21 AM lads i noticed the torrents arnt up, was it on last night?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Southern Geordie on February 02, 2006, 12:15:13 PM As usual, a link would be much appreciated.. Thanks lads :)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: captainhaircut on February 02, 2006, 12:28:14 PM it wasn't on this week unfortunately. will be back next week. andy put the schedule up in the first post of the thread.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on February 02, 2006, 09:40:59 PM A couple of things from this week's ask ausiello:
Quote In last week's AA, Jim asked you if Lost's Libby was a ********** ****. Can you at least give us the first letter of whatever this is? Or maybe all the vowels? Or maybe one of those nifty abbreviations you used to do? Or maybe Jim's e-mail address? — Ray Ausiello: Or maybe just this: *******i** **** and... Quote Need some spoilers for Lost! Gimme some big ones! — Stephen Ausiello: I hear there's something fishy in the water. Frist one still not much use, but the second one could potentially be something big; perhaps in reference to the underwater hatch that's been rumoured in the past? Or maybe it's meant to be taken literally, and the shark will be returning? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on February 03, 2006, 03:58:00 PM A couple of things from this week's ask ausiello: Quote In last week's AA, Jim asked you if Lost's Libby was a ********** ****. Can you at least give us the first letter of whatever this is? Or maybe all the vowels? Or maybe one of those nifty abbreviations you used to do? Or maybe Jim's e-mail address? — Ray Ausiello: Or maybe just this: *******i** **** and... Quote Need some spoilers for Lost! Gimme some big ones! — Stephen Ausiello: I hear there's something fishy in the water. Frist one still not much use, but the second one could potentially be something big; perhaps in reference to the underwater hatch that's been rumoured in the past? Or maybe it's meant to be taken literally, and the shark will be returning? Or maybe the reason they're all going a bit nuts, is because someone is putting stuff in the drinking water!?! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on February 03, 2006, 09:08:34 PM That's it!
Locke's going to poison them all, then be revealed as the show's big baddy before arrogantly killing them all off one by one :cool: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: scum on February 04, 2006, 02:36:26 AM www.thedifferencebetweenananagramandanacronym.com ;) its all french to me :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: jasonx_102 on February 04, 2006, 11:24:30 AM THEY TOOK MY SON!!!!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on February 04, 2006, 06:46:12 PM Schedule updated.
Another one week break after episode 14, and the four week break will become three weeks, and may be moved back by a week until after episode 16 (but this hasn't been confirmed yet; just me speculating) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on February 04, 2006, 07:08:36 PM This is taken from the upcoming issue of US Weekly:
Quote MICHELLE RODRIGUEZ Losing Lost? Will lost star michelle rodriguez be told to, uh, get lost? A source tells Hot Stuff that the actress, 27, who plays tough Ana Lucia, has become increasingly difficult on the set — and execs are eager to kill her character. “The producers are fed up with the fact that she barely shows up to the set and is always in a bad mood,” the source says. “They said she was getting killed off as soon as they could write it in.” Still, another source denies Rodriguez has any attitude, saying, “She’s very friendly.” A rep for ABC declined to comment, but the actress’ personal rep tells Us, “Michelle is very proud of her work.” The rep, however, wouldn’t reveal Ana Lucia’s fate. Rodriguez is already in trouble: She was arrested in December in Hawaii (along with costar Cynthia Watros, 37) and charged with DUI. She pleaded not guilty; her trial is set for March 30. I don't like the character, but killing her off would surely seem more than a little pointless given all the time they've spent introducing her..? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: indi on February 04, 2006, 07:20:25 PM She's hardly been in it for ages.
Sometimes, I get the impression they're making it up as they go along. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on February 04, 2006, 07:30:34 PM She's hardly been in it for ages. Sometimes, I get the impression they're making it up as they go along. I'm sure they do make most of it up as they go along; not really sure how they couldn't. They'll have a plan for the major storyline elements (such as the monster, how the plane crashed, DHARMA etc), but the rest - the character stuff - will probably only be decided on a few months before it's actually written; which is no different to how other tv shows, films, books and suchlike are created. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: jasonx_102 on February 04, 2006, 10:17:21 PM Ana Lucia is the nicest bird in it. They can't get rid of her.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 12: Fire and Water* Post by: Andy on February 05, 2006, 11:28:47 PM Instead of killing her off or whatever, they should just randomly stop filming scenes with her altogether, and just not bother to explain the whereabouts of the character to the audience. Ever. Basically just act like she never existed.
Would be interesting to see how long it would take the average yank viewer to twig on. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 08, 2006, 02:44:17 PM Tonight's the night folks :banana:
This is going to be SUCH a good episode, with a massive cliffhanger; I'm completely sure of it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 08, 2006, 02:46:57 PM PS. Does anyone else think that the posting in white actually kinda makes the thread harder to follow? I've just being reading it back, and the last few pages are a bit of a mess.
Would people prefer just to post in black and stay out of the thread until they've seen the episode? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: captainhaircut on February 08, 2006, 03:03:10 PM PS. Does anyone else think that the posting in white actually kinda makes the thread harder to follow? I've just being reading it back, and the last few pages are a bit of a mess. Would people prefer just to post in black and stay out of the thread until they've seen the episode? its is a bit of a hassle like. people know when the show is aired in the u.s and know its a series 2 thread so they can't really complain if they see a spoiler. people should just stay out of the thread until they've seen it tbh. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 08, 2006, 03:05:24 PM Yeah, plus the thread DOES say "spoilers up to Episode 13:" etc.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Bellars on February 08, 2006, 03:56:02 PM PS. Does anyone else think that the posting in white actually kinda makes the thread harder to follow? I've just being reading it back, and the last few pages are a bit of a mess. Would people prefer just to post in black and stay out of the thread until they've seen the episode? Yes. Black and white is too much trouble. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Geordiesned on February 08, 2006, 06:28:19 PM DOWN WITH WHITES! DOWN WITH WHITES! DOWN WITH WHITES! unsure.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: BooBoo on February 08, 2006, 08:41:18 PM I'm finally up to speed. Watched series one on telly and since it finished have watched series two via the net- much better actually without the ads.
I must also point out that my speculation on what was in the hatch and what would happen in the final episode was legitimate and i had no prior knowledge- simply lucky guesses based on what i had seen so far. So far in series 2, the highlight has been the hatch reveal which was excellently done. Loved the way the camera went along the hatch corridor and up the mine shaft to reveal Jack and Locke peering down. So many other great moments and the Echo flashback scenes are my favourites of the entire show so far. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Bellars on February 09, 2006, 03:05:37 AM Interesting episode... I'll comment on it tomorrow once you all have had the chance to download it. Preview for next week looks excellent.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Southern Geordie on February 09, 2006, 03:33:39 PM Anybody got the link to some torrents for this one? :P ta
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 09, 2006, 03:36:20 PM I'm really looking forward to watching this tonight.
Seems to be getting a lot of VERY positive reviews on other sites; which I knew would be the case, because the two guys who wrote it are amongst the best of the best (even if they haven't really had a chance to show it on lost yet). Oh, and of course the fact that it's sawyer-centric was always a tell-tale sign as well. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Bellars on February 09, 2006, 04:37:28 PM Ok, I've waited long enough. :tongue3:
Charlie has really sunk to a new low... he's really become alienated from the rest of the group. It was very interesting to see Locke actually get duped, for once. He's no longer the invincible figure many think. I really didn't see Sawyer's con coming at all... and to be totally honest I don't see his logic in hording the guns for himself. Can he really expect to keep all of them for himself, much less the one which he must sleep with. Anytime he heads back to his stash he will surely be follow or tracked. But my main question is this: In the past, the rain has been associated with the Others, or other supernatural events (Walt in the jungle during Shannon's death... etc). Why then did the rain suddenly pour when Sun was attacked? They made a big point of the rain's sudden falling (Not just with Sun, but with Sawyer and Kate as well). I'm confused. Next week looks awesome. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Adam^ on February 09, 2006, 04:54:13 PM Im watching it now so far so good looks like might be bir of action in this one.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: No Quarter on February 09, 2006, 05:21:13 PM Can't find a torrent which isn't fake. So yeah, PM please.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 09, 2006, 07:04:43 PM Firstly, that episode was as good as I expected it to be; fantastically well written, directed and acted.
Ok, I've waited long enough. :tongue3: I really didn't see Sawyer's con coming at all... and to be totally honest I don't see his logic in hording the guns for himself. Can he really expect to keep all of them for himself, much less the one which he must sleep with. Anytime he heads back to his stash he will surely be follow or tracked. I think the point was that he basically just wanted everyone to hate him again; simple as that. Quote But my main question is this: In the past, the rain has been associated with the Others, or other supernatural events (Walt in the jungle during Shannon's death... etc). Why then did the rain suddenly pour when Sun was attacked? They made a big point of the rain's sudden falling (Not just with Sun, but with Sawyer and Kate as well). I'm confused. I presume the rain was nothing more than a bluff by the writers to get people into thinking that it WAS 'the others' who took Sun, rather than Prince Charles. It was just a way of throwing us off track; and it worked. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 09, 2006, 07:54:26 PM Adam^, I've deleted your post. Don't link to illegal copyrighted material on the open forum please.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 09, 2006, 10:29:25 PM Preview for next week looks excellent. ...Talking of which (i'll post this in white, since it's for next week): The countdown timer doesn't look ANYTHING like the timer in "the swan"; it's totally different. Either Locke's dreaming again, or it IS actually a different timer; which would be quite interesting (especially if they had to push two buttons at once). Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: colinmk on February 09, 2006, 10:57:41 PM Dunno how you can watch the spoilers, totally spoils it for me like :tongue3: , good episode dunno what Sawyers upto really, Jacks being really stupid in this series seems to be losing the plot. Can well see some sort of showdown between kate and anna lucia soon enough, would be good if Mr Eko and Sawyer teamed up i reckon they could go after the others with the help of locke. Whats with all these week breaks and stuff? Annoying as f00k. Did that happen in Sopranos in the US?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 09, 2006, 11:06:15 PM Dunno how you can watch the spoilers, totally spoils it for me like :tongue3: , good episode dunno what Sawyers upto really, Jacks being really stupid in this series seems to be losing the plot. Can well see some sort of showdown between kate and anna lucia soon enough, would be good if Mr Eko and Sawyer teamed up i reckon they could go after the others with the help of locke. Whats with all these week breaks and stuff? Annoying as f00k. Did that happen in Sopranos in the US? It happens on the vast majority of shows in the US... Just like most things in life, it's dictated by money. They have things called "sweeps" over there which run through November, February and May, and during these months, the ratings for all shows on all networks are compiled, and an average viewing figure for each network is then taken. This figure determines the advertising fees that each channel can charge; and thus determines the ammount of profit that the channel makes over the next 12 months. Because of this, the networks make sure that the BIG episodes of all the major shows fall during EACH of those three months, to ensure they get the highest possible ratings, and therefore the highest possible profit over the course of the year. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: ewerk on February 10, 2006, 12:10:42 AM Great episode, I could see Sawyer's con coming but the fact that Charlie was involved in it wasn't expected. I can't see Sawyer's grip on power lasting too long, it'll be interesting to see what the group do with him when they regain the guns. Where does this leave Kate with Jack? Didn't see the trailer for the next episode but I'm sure it'll be good.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: chip2388 on February 10, 2006, 01:31:31 AM Pm for me as well please.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: ticaL on February 10, 2006, 08:50:41 AM Could see Charlie being the attacker like, from a mile away.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Decky on February 10, 2006, 11:00:47 AM notice how there isnt alot of mistery anymore, this thread used to be full of pictures and screen captures, theres nothing to look out for anymore that may answer questions like where are they? how did the plane crash? etc
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 10, 2006, 11:15:48 AM Well, if you want something like that; Hurley was reading a manuscript of the book "Bad Twin":
(https://images.amazon.com/images/P/1401302769.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401302769/sr=8-1/qid=1139569725/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-1505531-8140939?%5Fencoding=UTF8 Bad Twin, is a refference to all the "omg they all have evil twins!!11!" theories that were kicking around the net a while back. And Gary Troup, the supposed author, is an anagram of "purgatory". Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: indi on February 10, 2006, 05:45:24 PM I reckon we're seeing the beginings of "The Sickness", which is why they're all at each other's throats. The good news is, it probably means the re-emergence of one, or both, of Danielle and Dessie and that can only be a good thing, as it will mean a bit of progression in the storyline, which, as decky said, is a bit overdue.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 10, 2006, 09:50:00 PM I reckon we're seeing the beginings of "The Sickness", which is why they're all at each other's throats. The good news is, it probably means the re-emergence of one, or both, of Danielle and Dessie and that can only be a good thing, as it will mean a bit of progression in the storyline, which, as decky said, is a bit overdue. tbh, I thought that last episode progressed the storyline more than enough. We mightn't have had a big cliffhanger or whatever, but the shift in political power on the island is absolutely MASSIVE given the situation they find themselves with "the others". Now that Sawyer has control of the guns, it only takes something bad to happen to him for the group to become completely defenceless against the island's threats; which is a very welcome step in the right direction in my opinion. I doubt Sawyer's island "long-con" is finished yet either; I'd be very surprised if he didn't have some kind of ulterior motive in taking the guns, beyond wanting people to hate him, or pissing off jack. That would be too simple. It wouldn't surprise me if Sawyer has a far greater plan up his sleeve, which will be unveiled over the next few weeks. Aside from that we had the radio transmition, which - although Sayid said was due to waves bouncing off the ionosphere - could still quite easily be broadcasting from somewhere close. The dialgue between characters shouldn't always be taken as fact, and I reckon the radio was introduced to the group for far more than just a simple chat with Boone, and a moonlight serenade for Hurley and Sayid. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 10, 2006, 11:00:57 PM ... And the reason the show's lacking in mystery somewhat at the moment is because so many people demanded the plot progress at a faster rate, and the producers reacted by throwing in the smoke cloud, and the meating with the others as soon as they could. The mysterious elements of two of the show's biggest storylines have therefore been "lost", for the simple reason that they were forced out, due to the audience's impatience and demand for answers (and therefore the inevitable pressure from ABC which followed), FAR earlier than they ideally should have been.
It's impossible for it to go both ways; it's either going to be slower but more mysterious, or faster but more dissapointing... That's why it kinda grates on me when people complain about the pace. With the producers being forced to speed it up, it's just making the show far less satisfying in the long-run; at least for me it is anyway. I know that if you gave me the option of going back in time and NOT seeing the close-up of the security system, and NOT seeing the meeting with "the others", I'd snap your hand off in an instant. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on February 11, 2006, 11:27:21 AM i think that sawyer would be a much bigger aset if they were to fight the others, than any of them realise. he's probably the best tactician of all of them. I think this episode by sawyer could produce another conflict.
we now have the average joe's led by jack, containing most of the group. the spiritual people led by locke and containing eko (who could rise in power later in the series imo, but he's letting locke be an embassador for now) and we have the outsiders led by sawyer and containing charie (errand boy) and possably kate, although she seems not too sure whose side she's on. i can see more and more people leaving jacks group, and either fluctuating to sawyer or locke's groups till there's an even spread (or creating their own). i can see anna lucia forming her own group, although due to her island experiances, that'd be a shoot first, questions later kinda thing. sayid could form a group for the rational people, who prefer a measured approach but unlike locke and eko aren't spiritual. sort of reminds me of the lord of the rings 9 rings etc... :P Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: jasonx_102 on February 11, 2006, 11:34:26 AM Anyone notice that it was Kate's mum who served Sawyer in the cafe place.
Good episode. Charlie is a bit of a c***. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on February 11, 2006, 12:49:59 PM charlie's only a c***, because thats what the island has made him to look like. in the end of the day, he's only reacting badly to the rejection of clair, and locke moving in. my impression of him has risen rapidly, since he declined to have one of the statues, which was very noble of him. Locke is looking a bit of a c*** imo.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: jasonx_102 on February 11, 2006, 02:19:04 PM Yer Locke turning into one. Sawyer is my fav at the moment. Well after Ana-Lucia.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: BlufPurdi on February 11, 2006, 02:22:10 PM I know Locke mentioned medical use as to keeping the drugs, but they might be used for future trade with the others. Wouldn't be a bad idea either, don't think that's why they were kept though.
Crap episode for me, just seemed, well, pointless. Another character assasination, Charlie last week, Sawyer now. Hopefully this will build to something, and long before the last 10 episodes end. Cause I'm losing my patience with the programme. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 11, 2006, 02:31:05 PM Crap episode for me, just seemed, well, pointless. Another character assasination, Charlie last week, Sawyer now. Hopefully this will build to something, and long before the last 10 episodes end. Cause I'm losing my patience with the programme. You were saying how great the show was just 2 episodes ago man! Have a bit patience. I don't agree with there being any "character assasination" in that episode either; Sawyer's always been the same... The more humane side of him we've seen in the last few weeks was all a part of his con. There needs to be a character who creates problems in amongst the group, as there was last season. If they'd reformed sawyer's personality that would be another important element of the show that would have been lost. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: BlufPurdi on February 11, 2006, 02:44:07 PM Fair enough about the whole con thing, but it was still an infuriating episode. I have no patience!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 11, 2006, 07:42:14 PM Don't worry, the next four episodes will be awesome. 2 of them are written by cuse and lindelof, so will almost certainly be major-plotine progressors, and episode 15 may well feature the first ever on-island flashbacks.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: BooBoo on February 11, 2006, 10:05:53 PM Gotta admit i was slightly disappointed. Was expecting something a bit more dynamic. Although i just think its highly probable that sometime Sawyer will finally do something good in his life and sacrifice himself or something he believes in for then cause.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on February 11, 2006, 10:32:10 PM FAO BLUF: if you haven't seen the trailor for the next epsiode, then you wont know that it'll get VERY good. this was just the eye of the storm
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: chip2388 on February 12, 2006, 12:01:18 AM Anyone PM a link still can't get hold of it
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 12, 2006, 12:08:40 AM Gotta admit i was slightly disappointed. Was expecting something a bit more dynamic. Although i just think its highly probable that sometime Sawyer will finally do something good in his life and sacrifice himself or something he believes in for then cause. Yeah, I'd be stunned if Sawyer didn't die the hero at some point. His character's basically perfect for being killed off right near the end; same with Jack. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Decky on February 12, 2006, 01:53:34 AM just watched the preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x14promo-lg.zip)
the next episode looks quality, the french woman is back, the group capture one of 'the others' and the biggest off them all, the timer counts down to 0 and out! i cant f****** wait for this one, roll on Thursday! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: indi on February 12, 2006, 02:54:30 AM just watched the preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x14promo-lg.zip) the next episode looks quality, the french woman is back, the group capture one of 'the others' and the biggest off them all, the timer counts down to 0 and out! i cant f****** wait for this one, roll on Thursday! Told you. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on February 12, 2006, 03:32:42 PM just watched the preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x14promo-lg.zip) the next episode looks quality, the french woman is back, the group capture one of 'the others' and the biggest off them all, the timer counts down to 0 and out! i cant f****** wait for this one, roll on Thursday! Told you. you know this prediction is up there with the oracle of delphi's "if you cross the river... you'll destroy a powerful kingdom". are you a clayvoiant. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: indi on February 12, 2006, 03:54:23 PM just watched the preview (https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x14promo-lg.zip) the next episode looks quality, the french woman is back, the group capture one of 'the others' and the biggest off them all, the timer counts down to 0 and out! i cant f****** wait for this one, roll on Thursday! Told you. you know this prediction is up there with the oracle of delphi's "if you cross the river... you'll destroy a powerful kingdom". are you a clayvoiant. Clayvoiant? (https://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stephenbalchin/morph1.jpg) ;) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Geordiesned on February 12, 2006, 04:48:51 PM Our LOST! supremo Andy has gone! blueeek.gif He appears to have deleted his own account!! Come back!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on February 12, 2006, 04:51:13 PM WE NEED A NEW LEADER!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Geordiesned on February 12, 2006, 04:54:51 PM He added this to the first post of the thread at 3pm today before he departed;
Quote UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO A LACK OF TIME, AND A WANT TO START AVOIDING SPOILERS, THIS POST WILL NO LONGER BE UPDATED BY MYSELF. SORRY. bluecry.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: BooBoo on February 12, 2006, 04:56:51 PM In the leadership race for the new board supremo, I would like to publicly state that i will be voting for.......myself.
coffee.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: indi on February 12, 2006, 04:57:48 PM I'm going to spoil my ballot.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on February 12, 2006, 04:58:11 PM i would personally vote for sned, as his post is 3rd, just under andy's two.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: BooBoo on February 12, 2006, 05:02:11 PM I heard that Andy was such a lost nut that he crippled himself so he could only move by chair, shaved his head and bought an alrming amount of over sized hunting knives.
Geordiened meanwhile has piled on a whopping eight stone, has grown some mad frizzy hair and refuses to greet people without using the word "dude". Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Geordiesned on February 12, 2006, 06:42:45 PM i would personally vote for sned, as his post is 3rd, just under andy's two. I would like to rule myself out of any leadership vote on the basis that I can't be arsed. :D Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Geordiesned on February 12, 2006, 06:49:42 PM I heard that Andy was such a lost nut that he crippled himself so he could only move by chair, shaved his head and bought an alrming amount of over sized hunting knives. Geordiesned meanwhile has piled on a whopping eight stone, has grown some mad frizzy hair and refuses to greet people without using the word "dude". I've heard that BooBoo has grown some quite frankly s*** facial hair, started wearing a "hoodie" at all times, had the word FATE tattooeed on his knuckles and wanders around muttering "You all everybody" in a high pitched accent! :D Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 12, 2006, 08:54:55 PM He added this to the first post of the thread at 3pm today before he departed; Quote UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO A LACK OF TIME, AND A WANT TO START AVOIDING SPOILERS, THIS POST WILL NO LONGER BE UPDATED BY MYSELF. SORRY. bluecry.gif Have no fear, I've changed my mind on that bit. It will be updated as soon as I have new info. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Geordiesned on February 12, 2006, 08:56:58 PM :D :D :D
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Decky on February 12, 2006, 10:38:28 PM i can add the previews for the up coming episodes
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 12, 2006, 11:50:39 PM WE NEED A NEW LEADER! I don't think so NITY boy. This is not your island. This is MY island. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Bellars on February 13, 2006, 04:43:50 AM Here are a couple of observations about last week's episode that I've been digging up on the web:
Adding onto the point that Andy touched on later about the timer in the promo being different from the timer seen in the past, a side-by-side comparison proves that it is clearly not the same timer. https://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerpromo9tc.jpg Could suggest that there is infact a new timer to be introduced, or this could just be a goof made by the network to add some suspense to the preview. Well, this one isn't about last week but about two weeks ago, Fire and Ice. In Charlie's flashback of his appartment, examine the poster in the background in two different moments that is supposed to refer to his band's tour of the US. This says August 15, 3000. https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=902&pos=243 However, this reads August 15, 2000. https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=902&pos=242 This could play into the whole time travel theory that has been rumoured and speculated on, such as Hurley's response to the radio signal at the end of last week ("or what time" [could the radio signal be coming from]) or the book Sawyer read during season 1 ("A Wrinkle in Time"). Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Decky on February 13, 2006, 11:41:12 AM Here are a couple of observations about last week's episode that I've been digging up on the web: Adding onto the point that Andy touched on later about the timer in the promo being different from the timer seen in the past, a side-by-side comparison proves that it is clearly not the same timer. https://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerpromo9tc.jpg Could suggest that there is infact a new timer to be introduced, or this could just be a goof made by the network to add some suspense to the preview. Well, this one isn't about last week but about two weeks ago, Fire and Ice. In Charlie's flashback of his appartment, examine the poster in the background in two different moments that is supposed to refer to his band's tour of the US. This says August 15, 3000. https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=902&pos=243 However, this reads August 15, 2000. https://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=902&pos=242 This could play into the whole time travel theory that has been rumoured and speculated on, such as Hurley's response to the radio signal at the end of last week ("or what time" [could the radio signal be coming from]) or the book Sawyer read during season 1 ("A Wrinkle in Time"). interesting about the timer could it be another hatch? remember we did see Jack saying he wanted to see what happens, maybe they just changed it, although i think your other theory has nothing to it, maybe you are seeing it wrong, i can barely see it ffs, and Hurley was joking, Sawyers book has no significance imo. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Decky on February 13, 2006, 02:18:15 PM The counter and the Hatch were built by an outside company. There's no way the counter is one of a kind. This style of counter could pop up many buildings around the world.
Since the episode is a Sayid-centric, it could be that the Clock is in Iraq and is part of a Flash-Back. It wouldn't surprise me that an old bunker in Iraq wouldn't update a counter to a digital one if it still works fine. I think it's a clue to point out the fact that the Company that manufactured the Hatch and it's accessories, also manufactured other hatches around the world. Maybe in England, in the factory that Charlie was near. Wasn't it Michael that pointed out the Blast Doors? It was like he had seen blast doors before, perhaps during his construction days. Sayid also pointed out in a previous episode that he had not seen concrete walls so think since Chernobyl. During the Iraq-Iran war, the Soviets sold the majority of weapons to Iraq. Sayid could have visited the U.S.S.R. in 1987 or '88 as part of a Republican Guard envoy. The counter could have been in the U.S.S.R. Anyway, the counter doesn't have to be on the island. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: jasonx_102 on February 13, 2006, 04:21:38 PM In the episode after Sayid's, They find a new hatch. In Claire's episode.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 13, 2006, 09:11:26 PM That huge theory I linked to a while back has been changed, it's now even more immense:
https://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7712 If the overall "answer" on the show is anywhere NEAR that good, I'll be more than satisfied. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: captainhaircut on February 13, 2006, 09:49:45 PM Bloody hell thats some theory. that guy has way too much time on his hands. loving the cartoon strip he's made as well. One thing i noticed is that he claims locke can't feel his legs but he can. In deuz ex machina he starts to lose feeling but after sacrificing boone he gets the feeling back- i think walt says something like 'does your leg hurt' and locke says yes with a big grin on his face because he has regained feeling. By the way, whats been going on with this thread. i go away for a few days and andy decides to invoke chaos it would seem.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 13, 2006, 10:00:43 PM It's a long story, have a look through the "cobh" thread.
Anyhow, the following is cut and pasted from the first page of the thread; to try and clear up the questions that were being asked about the timer in the next episode's preview: (in white) - Javi has confirmed on The Fuselage that the timer shown in the preview for episode 2.14 IS the same one as the one in "the swan" station (the hatch), but didn't comment on the reason for the difference in appearence, saying we'll have to "wait til wenesday". Meanwhile, executive producer Damon Lindelof, and series creator JJ Abrams, have expressed their frustration at ABC's editing on the previews for episode 2.14, saying that they revealed "too much". So there you go :tongue3: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: captainhaircut on February 13, 2006, 10:02:21 PM thought the whole 'in white' thing was over. something about thread continuity? or is that just for episode reviews and not spoilers?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 13, 2006, 10:05:36 PM thought the whole 'in white' thing was over. something about thread continuity? or is that just for episode reviews and not spoilers? There's people who post in here who don't watch the previews though, so I doubt they'd want to read about them; especially when it's something which is pretty much confirming that a MAJOR event WILL be happening in the next episode. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: captainhaircut on February 13, 2006, 10:09:42 PM yeah ok mate, no worries. has a canada preview been released yet? its usually a bit better than the u.s one.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 13, 2006, 10:11:17 PM Nope. There wasn't a canadian preview released this week, dunno why.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: indi on February 13, 2006, 10:32:56 PM (https://www.07968826871.com/LOSTWEB/polarfog.jpg)
Pair of tits? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Decky on February 14, 2006, 12:05:47 AM can anyone see the face to the left off the tits
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: indi on February 14, 2006, 12:09:20 AM And the one on the right.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 14, 2006, 12:09:45 AM Latest podcast's up. Basic summary:
(SPOILERS BELOW) We'll be getting more interconnections between characters in flashbacks this season. The clock WILL count down to zero in episode 2.14. This episode will set-up the next series of episodes on the show. Sayid's flashbacks are based around a younger sayid than we've seen before. Various questions about "the others" will be answered in this, and other upcoming episodes. Darren Aronofsky will be directing his much-publicised episode SOON. The numbers have a usage and a reason, but not necessarily a "meaning". We WILL know why the plane crashed by the end of this season. Also, here's a snippet of info for episode 2.15. Just to wet your appetites: "Guest starring Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, M.C. Gainey as Mr. Friendly (aka "zeke"), Tania Raymonde as young girl, and... William Mapother as Ethan Rom" :banana: (END OF SPOILERS) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: indi on February 14, 2006, 12:23:18 PM Latest podcast's up. Basic summary: (SPOILERS BELOW) We'll be getting more interconnections between characters in flashbacks this season. The clock WILL count down to zero in episode 2.14. This episode will set-up the next series of episodes on the show. Sayid's flashbacks are based around a younger sayid than we've seen before. Various questions about "the others" will be answered in this, and other upcoming episodes. Darren Aronofsky will be directing his much-publicised episode SOON. The numbers have a usage and a reason, but not necessarily a "meaning". We WILL know why the plane crashed by the end of this season. Also, here's a snippet of info for episode 2.15. Just to wet your appetites: "Guest starring Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, M.C. Gainey as Mr. Friendly (aka "zeke"), Tania Raymonde as young girl, and... William Mapother as Ethan Rom" :banana: (END OF SPOILERS) I knew he'd be back. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: indi on February 14, 2006, 12:38:10 PM Hope his return fits in with my theory below:
My comments (in white): Who do you think makes a chilling return? I reckon it's one of the dead people and I think this might be common from here on in. Who's Katey Sagal, apart from Al Bundy's wife? What odds will you give me that it's Danielle, who is the other female cast member to return and become a regular? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 13: The Long Con* Post by: Andy on February 14, 2006, 12:41:44 PM I think it's probably just in flashbacks (I have a feeling claire's will be set on the island), but we'll see.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on February 15, 2006, 07:03:58 PM Tonight's episode is going to rule SO much.
Really due a big, big, BIG cliffhanger episode any time now; I'm sure this will be it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Geordiesned on February 15, 2006, 07:05:29 PM I might have to get up really really early to start downloading it! What time's it likely to be available to download? :D
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on February 15, 2006, 07:08:58 PM I can normally find it before I leave for work at around 6-ish, so around that time I guess.
Maybe earlier. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: captainhaircut on February 15, 2006, 08:44:08 PM got last weeks episode in 20 minutes. just leeched the hell out of some super seed. was great. reckon it'll be up about 4/5ish. gonna stay up, wait for it to download, watch it and end up in bed at 7ish. now that is hardcore.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: BooBoo on February 15, 2006, 09:10:53 PM Just read through the updated Ultimate Theory. Amazing!
If its anything other than that I will be disappointed! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: ewerk on February 15, 2006, 09:18:39 PM gonna stay up, wait for it to download, watch it and end up in bed at 7ish. now that is hardcore. Harcore of just plain sad? :wink: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: colinmk on February 15, 2006, 11:28:39 PM anyone pm where they have found it pls????
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Southern Geordie on February 16, 2006, 12:50:43 AM anyone pm where they have found it pls???? Ditto.. Many thanks in advance :) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: captainhaircut on February 16, 2006, 05:15:27 PM how am I first? i've been in bed all day! poor show! anyway, my thoughts in white (don't know if we're still doing this but just in case) :
bit of a disappointment. learned nothing about the others, the timer was an anti-climax, although a bit of a mystery, locke and jack seem to have major shifts every episode. For example, jack agrees to torturing sawyer and making an army while takes a fit now, while locke goes from being a hardman in one episode to slightly pathetic in this one. Also was there any need for the photo of kate. A bit patronising i thought, it was clear that he was her father. The sawyer/ hurley story was pretty pointless, if a tad amusing and the ending just didn't seem to fit. Next episode, maternity leave looks promising, hopefully will reveal more. Oh and that guy is definately one of them. the looks he gave sayid as jack shut the door on the armoury says it all. anyone who still needs a link can pm me. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: BooBoo on February 16, 2006, 05:37:45 PM *********SPOILERS*********
A steady episode but not earth shattering. Some thoughts. 1. Henry is clearly an Other. i'm nearly 100% sure of that, but one of the renegade others that Ethan belonged to rather than the Scientist Others that kidnapped Walt. 2. The timer. Hmmm. Definitely hit zero and then a strange series of ominous red symbols. I think the symbols may relate to the different hatches on the island. 3. Was there any point to Sawyers frog episode other than to reinforce what a bad guy he can be? 4. Was the Amercian soldier Kate's father? I missed that, but virtually every episode now has a coincidental meeting in the flashbacks so it would figure. 5. The CGI of the Iraqi desert was a bit dodgy to say the least. 6. Pretty lame ending and not the cliff hanger that some had predicted. 7. Overall 7/10. ps- From the tail section: The big question is: who is Henry Gale? A quick character search on IMDB brought up an interesting allusion: Henry Gale is the name of Dorothy"s uncle in Wizard of Oz. If you recall, Dorothy escaped OZ in a balloon at the end. Hmmm. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: indi on February 16, 2006, 06:52:57 PM Well, weirdly enough, I really enjoyed that episode.
Sayid is by far the most interesting (main) character for me and Danielle is always good, whenever she makes an appearance. I thought the counter getting to zero was interesting, has anyone got a still of the symbols? Yeah that soldier was Kate's Dad and that bloke is 100% Other, no doubt about it, which probably means he's not!! ;) It's good to see some alliances being built, Sayid and Charlie is a good combination. I don't hate Charlie, like everyone else, and I think he gets better each week, so the more we see of whatever those two are going to get up to, the better. Overall: Best Episode since the Eko one. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: indi on February 16, 2006, 06:54:30 PM Yeah, BooBoo I agree, the CGI was particularly crappy looking.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: BooBoo on February 16, 2006, 06:58:14 PM I noticed somehwere that the symbols were similar to Egyptian heiroglyphics that translated into "Cause to Die".
blueeek.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: indi on February 16, 2006, 06:59:05 PM Yeah, I'm sure I saw an Ibis.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on February 16, 2006, 07:05:55 PM That episode absolutely FLEW over. Another good one, for me.
In saying that though, I was still a bit dissapointed with some aspects of it; in particular the lack of a decent ending. Thinking about it, there hasn't really been a "holy s***" type of cliffhanger since "What Kate Did", and to be perfectly honest, I even prefer the cheesy musical montages to some random comment, followed by an out of place BANG as the words "LOST" flash up. It almost felt like they were trying to make it feel like a cliffhanger, when it blatantly wasn't. The torture scenes were fantastically good though. I'm not really sure what to make of Henry; his story was obviously made-up rubbish, but I think it would be too easy for him to be one of "the others". But then, as Locke pointed out, we don't know how many groups of "others" there are, so we'll just have to wait and see I suppse. Sayid's flashbacks were good, which I wasn't actually expecting. I normally find his backstories to be pretty boring, and overly slow, but these one's were well done. I found myself actually caring about them, which has only really been the case with Sawyer and Eko's recently... Hopefully after some pretty rubbish flashbacks early on in the season, they're finally going to start picking up again now; they're my favourite part of the show when they're done well. As for the countdown; whilst it was an anti-climax, the hieroglyphics at least re-inject some of the traditional mystery back into the show. And in all honesty, I'm kinda glad they didn't show us what happens at this stage of affairs; because the fact that they're dragging it out at least pretty much confirms that something important's going to happen when they do eventually tick down, if nothing else. The acting in this episode obviously deserves a mention too, Naveen Andrews was teriffic as ever. Another Emmy-award winning performance. The directing by Stephen Williams is also worth a mention. I normally rave about Cuse and Lindelof's writing, but I thought the directing actually made the episode a lot better than it probably should have been this time around, in particular in the flashback scenes. So, yeah... Overall I thought that it was a pretty solid episode, which was just an ending short of being a great episode. Definately one of my favourites this season though, regardless of it's faults. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: indi on February 16, 2006, 07:29:48 PM I reckon that ending might become more of a cliffhanger in retrospect, yeah, it was quite understated, but it seemed significant to me. Sayid's not one to f*** around and Charlie's shown a dark side recently, so if Sayid's recruited him to his cause, then things could get very interesting.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: 80 on February 16, 2006, 07:55:57 PM I reckon that ending might become more of a cliffhanger in retrospect, yeah, it was quite understated, but it seemed significant to me. Sayid's not one to f*** around and Charlie's shown a dark side recently, so if Sayid's recruited him to his cause, then things could get very interesting. Agreed. I liked the episode. In an understated sort of way, it felt better than some of the other more eventful episodes. And for the record, I absolutley loathe those musical montages. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Geordiesned on February 16, 2006, 08:25:05 PM Good episode and I can't wait for the next episode having just watched the trailer! :D :D :D
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: 80 on February 16, 2006, 08:29:47 PM Good episode and I can't wait for the next episode having just watched the trailer! :D :D :D Well done on refraining from telling us all about it's contents! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Decky on February 16, 2006, 10:14:34 PM im a huge Lost fan, but i have to say im getting sick of its patheticness to attracking viewers, the previews are always blown out of proportion, my heart sank when Locke got the timer back up. Also in the podcast we where promised to learn alot about the others, i learn nothing about them. The preivews and false promises are getting on my nerves, trying to get viewers by making the episode look like it will be great and secrets will be revealed. Also another 2 weeks until the next episode, after it we have to wait 4 weeks. In all thats 1 episode in 6 weeks. That is ****ing s***. I honestly dont know what to think of Lost anymore, something has to happen soon. Next week is Claire's episode, the first Island flashback, we also get to learn about the others in it as we see what happened to her, but do we really want to see another Claire, Charlie and the baby episode.
Preview for the next episode shows another building, but after the hatch was unlocked we learnt bits and pieces, but since then nothing has happened in it, i think we will learn some more about the island in the next episode but not alot, we will have to wait months for any significant revelations. Also Claire and Kate find this building? not my favourites to find the place i have to say, i would be interested in seeing how Locke reacts to two buildings, which one will he stay in. PS: if the episode is ready for viewing why the hell do we have to wait 2 weeks? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on February 16, 2006, 10:31:29 PM im a huge Lost fan, but i have to say im getting sick of its patheticness to attracking viewers, the previews are always blown out of proportion, my heart sank when Locke got the timer back up. Also in the podcast we where promised to learn alot about the others, i learn nothing about them. The preivews and false promises are getting on my nerves, trying to get viewers by making the episode look like it will be great and secrets will be revealed. Also another 2 weeks until the next episode, after it we have to wait 4 weeks. In all thats 1 episode in 6 weeks. That is ****ing s***. I honestly dont know what to think of Lost anymore, something has to happen soon. Next week is Claire's episode, the first Island flashback, we also get to learn about the others in it as we see what happened to her, but do we really want to see another Claire, Charlie and the baby episode. The previews are dictated by ABCmedianet; the production team have absolutely no control over their contents whatsoever (hence the criticism directed towards them from lindelof and abrams last week). The simple solution to your problem is not to watch them, because they ARE misleading, and always have been. Anyway, the clock did hit zero, which was exactly what was promised, and it unraveled a further part of the mystery. Did you really expect any kind of instant, definitive answer as to what EXACTLY happens at this stage of the season? It will either be saved for the finale, OR, will arise as a chain of events over the coming weeks, starting from the counter hitting zero last night. It's not all going to happen at once. Quote PS: if the episode is ready for viewing why the hell do we have to wait 2 weeks? Sweeps, and the fact that the producers need time to record the rest of the episodes. The only other solution would be to do it as they did last season; clumps of episodes seperated by several massive breaks throughout the year. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Decky on February 16, 2006, 10:36:13 PM how come there is none of this in the UK, i hate American tv like, would hate to live there
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on February 16, 2006, 11:45:09 PM For those of you who have the promo for episode 15, go through it one frame at a time.
Some really cool stuff in there. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Decky on February 17, 2006, 01:33:20 AM Heres what i got
(https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9121/corridor4qj.jpg) Nothing really to say on that other than it looks misterious (https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7392/doctorjpg2mh.jpg) Seems to be sticking something into her womb? also notice the equipment and area, seems like a high tech place, trained doctors aswell (https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/804/escapehatchjpg4et.jpg) This one is my favourite, was VERY hard for me to get, this is when it shows the door to the place in Clares flashback, Escape Hatch? escape from what? the island? where does it escape too? maybe the Island is only a 2 maybe 3 series thing? there was more in that preview than the last episode ffs Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Jonny2J on February 17, 2006, 03:32:12 PM Definately the best episode since Eko's in particular Sayid's flashback was quite interesting, by any chance was that Henry bloke the guy from Saw?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: ewerk on February 17, 2006, 04:00:13 PM One question, why did Danielle give Henry to Sayid? She was able to capture and restrain Sayid for long enough, surely she could've done the same with Henry?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: allmo4001 on February 17, 2006, 06:01:42 PM One question, why did Danielle give Henry to Sayid? She was able to capture and restrain Sayid for long enough, surely she could've done the same with Henry? To gain there trust again, maybe don't know. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: BooBoo on February 17, 2006, 06:06:33 PM Can anyobne give a single explanation to what the point was of the annoying Treefrog. Wasnt it just a rehash of Sawyer v The Boar from season 1?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: ewerk on February 17, 2006, 06:39:20 PM I think the frog thing was just to show that Sawyer is still a bit of a c*** and to work in the the explanation of why Hurley is still a fat b******.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on February 22, 2006, 04:35:55 PM We're back!
Came across this earlier: https://www.writerdirector.net/thehatch/scripts/index.html Basically just scripts for some of the early season one episodes. Pretty interesting reading tbh. Some of them are slightly different from the final product too; like "confidence man", which has "Richard" and "Mary-Beth "playing the parts that Boone and Shannon eventually did in that episode (the asthma thing etc). Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on February 23, 2006, 05:09:45 PM tbh boo boo, i dont see why every single frame of every episode needs some deeper meaning. its just us watching sawyer catch a frog thats annoying him, and its also used as ewerk says to explain hurleys weight loss. i liked watching it.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: BooBoo on February 23, 2006, 06:14:06 PM Yes Nit, but i think they could have revealed Hurleys snack a thons in a more origianl way than using a "sawyer is irritated by one of the island inhabitants" method. Its basically been done to death. And Sawyers switch from total baddie at the end of the previous episode to being annoyed by a frog seemed a little bit disjointed.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on February 23, 2006, 06:27:12 PM sawyer is disjointed. he doesn't know what he wants imo, and nobody knows what he wants. its so in character of him as well, and just because its been done to death, doesn't mean that it should stop entirely imo.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: indi on February 23, 2006, 06:30:24 PM They're all abit disjointed at the moment, don't you think?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on February 23, 2006, 06:49:34 PM Javi was talking about the characters on thefuselage.com the other day, he basically said that the slight changes in personality every week are pretty much unavoidable, when you have several different writers writing several different episodes all at the same time, within a very narrow time limit, WHILST writing and planning the main island story as well.
He said that they were basically going to have to sit down over the next few weeks, and map out EXACTLY where each individual personality is headed. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: BooBoo on February 23, 2006, 07:36:05 PM Out of interest what does everyone think will happen in the main story thread for the remaining of season 2.
My ideas: Further animosity between the group, more annoyance at having to do hatch duty. Desmond should make some sort of return. Someone will fall "sick". Possibly Sawyer. Jack will be at a loss to know what the illness is, Sawyer will think he is deliberately not helping him, so as to regain leadership. Henry will mysteriously disappear from his cell. Further hints that the "others" are in fact more that one group of people. Season finale cliffhanger- Someone (Locke?) revelas the plane crash was their doing. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on February 24, 2006, 09:31:21 PM Quite an interesting comment by Matthew Fox on LIVE! the other day:
"Right now we're beginning to see a real "Lord of the Flies" type conflict developing both within our group of survivors, and with Jack's army and these "others", whoever they are; but at the end of the season - and this is mainly just speculation on my part - I think we're going to see a much bigger external entity present itself as the island's main threat, and the show's main enemy." Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: indi on February 24, 2006, 09:44:25 PM Quite an interesting comment by Matthew Fox on LIVE! the other day: "Right now we're beginning to see a real "Lord of the Flies" type conflict developing both within our group of survivors, and with Jack's army and these "others", whoever they are; but at the end of the season - and this is mainly just speculation on my part - I think we're going to see a much bigger external entity present itself as the island's main threat, and the show's main enemy." Interesting, perhaps the "Others" (both groups) aren't the Dharma scientists, or perhaps they are and their experiment(s) has got out of their control and taken control of the island!?! I say this because I think this "bigger external entity", if it appears, will be something to do with Dharma. Also, I don't think the security system, and in fact the island as a whole, are under the control of anyone we've met so far. As I say, I wouldn't be surprised to find out the island is out of (Human) control. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Geordiesned on February 25, 2006, 11:42:48 AM Nicked form the SMB :lol:
(https://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3885/endofseason4gw13cq.jpg) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: chip2388 on February 27, 2006, 01:38:41 PM Anyone have the links to episode 13 and 14... just got back from a 2week break in hong kong so i have no idea whats been happening.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Geordiesned on March 01, 2006, 07:13:37 PM Back tonight but then a 2 week break!! blueeek.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Andy on March 01, 2006, 07:33:07 PM Err... Could sned or someone change the thread title etc.
would do it myself but i'm in hospital for a few days with an eye ulcer! cheers... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: indi on March 01, 2006, 07:36:37 PM Err... Could sned or someone change the thread title etc. would do it myself but i'm in hospital for a few days with an eye ulcer! cheers... Eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!! Sounds nasty, get well soon Andy mate. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: Geordiesned on March 01, 2006, 07:45:58 PM Err... Could sned or someone change the thread title etc. would do it myself but i'm in hospital for a few days with an eye ulcer! cheers... Errrrr minging! A bong eye!!! Erm, what do I change the title to? "Spoilers upto Episode 15"? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 14: One of Them* Post by: indi on March 01, 2006, 07:47:33 PM Err... Could sned or someone change the thread title etc. would do it myself but i'm in hospital for a few days with an eye ulcer! cheers... Errrrr minging! A bong eye!!! Erm, what do I change the title to? "Spoilers upto Episode 15"? :D I thouhgt it was only me and my mates, who said bong eye, where's it come from? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 01, 2006, 07:54:09 PM No idea! :lol:
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 01, 2006, 07:55:25 PM Do you know what a Manhead is?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 01, 2006, 11:43:46 PM are there no more podcasts?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Southern Geordie on March 02, 2006, 12:27:15 PM If anybody has the new episode a PM would be very much appreciated! :)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: 80 on March 02, 2006, 04:06:27 PM Am I first in, then?
Highlight Thought we were gonna have the island's first suicide, for a second. /Highlight Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: captainhaircut on March 02, 2006, 05:28:09 PM can't be arsed to post but suppose i will. just quick though cos i'm knackered, having stayed up to dl it. In white, (if this breaks the threads continuity, fell free to change it):
the whole Mr. Friendly/Zeke beard and the old clothes thing was strange. obviously they are trying to look more like island folk but why? they have already found the hatch so they know something ain't right. maybe the island is closer to civilisation. alex popped up for the first time, raising a clear nature versus nurture debate. is she good or is she bad? the whole eko and henry scene was weird. was eko apologising to henry because he thinks he's an other and wanted to say sorry for killing two of them. If he wasn't, then it was just strange. henry manipulating locke annoys me. locke is a smart guy, he must think henry is an other so therefore must be aware that he will have a motive behind everything he says. also when mr.friendly was talking to ethan he said 'he will not be pleased' or something to that effect, so that suggests there is someone above him, maybe alvar hanso or marvin candle or someone completely new that we will meet later. i've probably missed a load, but there u go. overall, a good episode. two more weeks to wait now! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 02, 2006, 06:29:26 PM right i havent seen any spoilers, so could someone pm me details about the torrent or download, i hear there are audio problems on alot. But i do know there are alot of torrents going very slowly. Help please lads i cant miss this bluecry.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 02, 2006, 06:50:19 PM I can only find 1 torrent and it's got an eta of 4 bloody hours to download!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: captainhaircut on March 02, 2006, 06:59:36 PM where are you guys looking? theres loads of torrents out there. if anyone wants one, pm me.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: ewerk on March 02, 2006, 07:14:41 PM I can only find 1 torrent and it's got an eta of 4 bloody hours to download! I got my download in 6 minutes. bluebiggrin.gif I guess someone on my network already had it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 02, 2006, 07:33:14 PM My thoughts:
Good episode all in all. The Ecko-Henry bit was weird, but fits with my redemption theory, so I like it. :) Good to see more of Danielle, hopefully her absolution of guilt re Claire means she's going to come into the storyline more often now. We only need Dessy to make his long awaited return and things will get really interesting, what the f*** has he been doing all this time, wandering around the Jungle? Perhaps he's fixing his boat, I can just imagine him come sailing into view and dropping anchor off the beach, remember where you heard it first, if it happens, if it doesn't, I deny all knowledge. I think Locke's going a bit nuts, maybe due to the "sickness" and is going to be a bit of a loose cannon in the near future, again I seem to say this every episode, but they just keep hinting at it happening and it never does. When it does, I reckon all hell will break loose, hopefully it'll be worth waiting for. Finally, Claire and Kate went hairing off accross the island looking for vaccine, but little did they know there's a shed load of it in Dessy's fridge in the hatch, remember? You'd have thought Jack, as a doctor, might have wondered why someone would have that around the place, but noooooooo!! Sometimes, the way they make supposedly intelligent characters, have moments of pure dumbness, just to help the storyline along, really gets on my tits, it's just sloppy writing in my book. That's it. Bloody Yanks and their 2 weeks break!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (again) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: No Quarter on March 02, 2006, 09:24:53 PM My comments in white:The thing I noticed, is that the syringe is a metal (lead) coated one, such as would be used for radiopharmaceuticals. Had a look at the medicine vial, but couldn't see much interesting (apart from it being a prescription drug [Rx] and having the numbers for it's serial code). The Vial wasn't stored in a lead container/beaker though, so I don't thinks it's a radioactive medicine. Maybe the syringe is just because it looks cool, but to me it indicates that it's not just some tranquilisers or similarly boring medicine.
Whatever relevance that has. By the way, I don't believe in any sickness (aside from the drug induced trances, and general mania caused by living on a f****** island for months/years). Not scientific enough for me, I can't seeing it being anything weird. Also I've yet to read any good explanation for it, and any good, hard evidence of it (unless I missed it, French chick probably isn't to be trusted 100%). Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 02, 2006, 10:17:10 PM My thoughts in white:
I'll add to what's already been written - no point going over it again. The whole Jack/Locke/Henry thing was a bit strange. Considering it was Locke who changed the combination to the lock so that Jack couldn't get in when Sayid was doing his stuff. Jack was the one dead set against Henry being locked up but now they seem to have had a role reversal with no explanation. Re: Alex (or whatever she's known as now). She's obviously been brought up by them and the fact that she helped Claire escape suggests that bad has been done to her. Perhaps she herself has been experimented on not only as a baby but throughout her life. That could be what DHARMA is all about; conducting experiments on humans. I don't know what the aim of that could be but possibilities are to create a super-human or to counteract chemical warfare. Of course, if this were the case then they would need subjects. Were they the cause of the plane crash? A plane full of seemingly chosen ones. The warning from beard and his possie that this was "their island" could well have been simply because Jack and co had wandered just too close to what they were really up to - human experimentation. I would hazard a guess that those who have already gone "missing" (the Aussie flight attendant for example, whose name escapes me) are still alive and with the "others" and being experimented upon. If the "others" wandered around the jungle in full medical get up then I think the survivors would suss something was up pretty quickly and not be too scared of any threats from them. But by appearing feral they give the image that they are to be feared. Oh, I'm on a role now - had another thought! How did Ethan get Claire and Charlie back to the DHARMA base with him? Charlie never really had an explanation. As we saw Claire was drugged whilst with Ethan - maybe he drugged them both somehow when he first ran into them. All he had to do was give them a drink of his "sour" drink. That seemed to be what was keeping Claire high as a kite. It would certainly explain how he was able to get them back and how he was able to hang Charlie. We have previoulsy thought that Ethan was unbeliavably strong but it would certainly be easier to hoist someone by their neck if they weren't putting up a fight or already unconcious. The fight Ethan had with Jack showed that he's only human. I have to admit that at the time of the fight I thought "what the hell's going on? there's no way Jack would have a chance against Ethan. But if I'm right then Ethan is no more than a buffed individual. He may even have been on steroids - the "others" seem to possess enough drugs so why not? That's all I can think of for now but I might be back! :D Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 02, 2006, 11:06:18 PM thanks for the help lads, got the one from the pirate bay before i asked. Was unsure of it though, turned out to be quality
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BooBoo on March 03, 2006, 01:42:51 PM Really good episode. Probably my favourite since the Eko flashback.
SPOILERS AHOY!! The flashbacks were a bit creepy but was good to have a break from the often pretty dull back stories from off the island. Ethan is a great character with his overly nice yet sinister ways. Shame he took a few slugs to the chest. Thought Henrys mind games on Locke were pretty effective too. I think Jack v Locke is going to go 12 rounds. Anyway, here's a series of observations: - Enjoyed the break from Charlie, Hurley, Anna Lucia and Sawyer (despite his cameo). - What was the whole Eko beard trimming thing about? - In the Dharma hatch their appeared to be a fake beard in one of the drawers? - The teenage kid, obviously Alex. - Where have the Dharma people gone, why did they completely strip their hatch? - Further hints that Locke is losing the plot. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 03, 2006, 03:44:44 PM - In the Dharma hatch their appeared to be a fake beard in one of the drawers? do you remember the bearded guy on the boat and in the jungle who seemed to be the leader (not anymore) Its his fake beard, he was at the door of the baby room talking to Ethan Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BooBoo on March 03, 2006, 03:55:41 PM Oh was that him? Didnt realise that.
Also, Ethan had a converastion at the door with that bearded/non bearded bloke who claimed Ethan had made of an arse of things and that HE would not be too chuffed. So who was the HE/ HIM that they referred to? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Kitty-Sniper on March 04, 2006, 01:50:35 PM SPOILERS:
LOVE the fake beard. i suppose it was to put fear into the plain suvivors hearts. Eko is a true great. I think he knows a lot more (or supposes) about the others than the rest of the suvivors. he seems to understand that there is a angle to everything, including the others. he and sayid are 2 of my 3 favourite characters (sawyer being the third for different reasons) because they are much more intelligent than the rest imo. I wounder why the 2nd hatch was disserted. IMO its not the type of thing that you just leave on a whim. must have taken them a lot of effort to move ALL the stuff out if they did leave voluntary. and why remove the baby rooms stuff as well? it looks as though they left in a hurry, if they did leave voluntary, but why would they be so scared of a bunch of middle class plain suvivors? could they have left for different reasons other than fear that the suvivors would find the 2nd hatch, or are they still around? did they let claire etc... go into the hatch. i also wounder where the escape hatch goes to? could that be where they left to? but is the door big enough to let all their equipment through. who was the one who would get angry as well, when we see the master sans beard. could these others be under duress from some higher power? the guy they captured is deffo an other. and eko and sayid know it, but its interesting to guage their different reactions. sayid is angry, but eko asks for forgiveness. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: 80 on March 04, 2006, 03:11:33 PM A thought - Charlie recruited/controlled by "Him" and made to execute Ethan?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 04, 2006, 08:35:12 PM Hello BROTHERS :banana:
This episode sounds awesome. Looks like i'll probably be watching it on monday, which is good, because any longer and i'd be having withdrawal symptoms. Without spoiling anthing, can i actually expect a good ending this week? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 04, 2006, 09:11:34 PM ANSWER ME LADS
I only have about 20p left on my bedside internet/tv combo thingy before I'm muted until tomorrow ;) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: captainhaircut on March 04, 2006, 09:26:25 PM good episode, good ending i suppose. set up for next episode in 2 weeks. you won't be disappointed after your wait, i'm sure of that.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 04, 2006, 09:38:15 PM Cheers.
Oh well... Come on then you rip-off nhs BASTARDS. CUT MY CONNECTION IF YOU DARE. 3p p/minute for dial-up ffs. Jesus would literally be weeping. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 04, 2006, 09:52:40 PM Cheers. Oh well... Come on then you rip-off nhs BASTARDS. CUT MY CONNECTION IF YOU DARE. 3p p/minute for dial-up ffs. Jesus would literally be weeping. How's the eye? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: 80 on March 04, 2006, 11:03:32 PM You might almost think it reveals too much, Andy. You'll have to decide for yourself.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BooBoo on March 05, 2006, 02:44:27 PM Does anybody else think that the fake beard may give further support to the theory that life on the island is all part of a Beadle's About prank?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 05, 2006, 03:54:51 PM Jesus, can't even use the quote function on these things. Useless.
Anyway... indigo: The eye's a lot better thanks. If I can give you all one piece of advice based upon my last 7 days it would be; if your eyes are even slightly, SLIGHTLY dodgy; red or whatever, GO TO THE DOCTORS. I basically came within about 12 hours of partially blinding myself just because I thought it would fix itself over time, when it wouldnt. As a result i had to have half-hourly eye drops, day and night, for 4 consecutive days. Not pleasent at all, trust me. 80: You could be right, but I've been waiting for claire/island flashbacks since FOREVER ago, so I doubt it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 05, 2006, 11:26:37 PM Preview for the next episode
https://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=503 Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 06, 2006, 01:47:57 PM Acquiring the episode now.
31% to go :cool: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 06, 2006, 06:34:10 PM How's the bong eye Andy? :confused2:
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 06, 2006, 06:43:21 PM Fine thanks ;)
ps. GREAT episode. More later, maybe. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 07, 2006, 05:45:38 PM Okay, as I said yesterday, that was a great episode. Probably the third best this season in terms of overall story, and it was by far the most revealing, and probably the most satisfying for a LONG while.
I don’t even know where to start when talking about it, so I’ll just put everything under sub-headings so it’s not TOO disjointed: The Research Facility, The Countdown, and The Others‘ Escape Ok, so we didn’t really see a great deal of the facility itself, but what we did see was more than interesting enough. The facility seemed quite large; there was a lot of rooms which weren’t explored (which is slightly bizarre, since there could have been medicine elsewhere), and there was quite notably an Escape Hatch, which was highlighted quite clearly so I presume it must be important in some way shape or form. I’m sure it’ll come into play upon a future re-visit. You have to wonder WHY and WHEN the facility was abandoned - it seemed like The Others left in a hurry because of the stuff they left lying around, so something pretty dramatic must have either happened, or been ABOUT to happen. My guess? The numbers hitting zero sent some kind of warning to Zeke and co; they thought something bad was about to happen to them, so they got out of there as fast as they could. Of course, the items left lying around were VERY convenient (as was Kate Croft’s ability to find them by looking in the EXACT right locker on first guess. Kudos to her for that), so they could have known that Claire was coming, and left the stuff there deliberately I suppose. We’ll just have to wait and see on that one. Zeke, Ethan and the list, and Zeke, Ethan and “Him“? From the conversation between Zeke and Ethan, it would seem that Zeke is Ethan’s superior, and “him” is Zeke’s superior. So who is “him“? Is this the same “him” that Desmond mentioned in “Adrift“? Well, the obvious choice is Alvar Hanso, but it’s probably too obvious to be correct. Gerald de Groot (or whatever his name was) is another possibility, and Mr Paik has also been mentioned elsewhere (as has Jae Lee, Sun’s date in “…And Found”). Again though, it could be absolutely anyone, so we’ll just have to wait and see. The list is quite interesting. One of the key things worth noting is that Zeke knew Jack and Locke’s names in “The Hunting Party”; does this mean that the list was eventually compiled at some point between episode 1.14 and episode 2.11? If so… Who by? This could very well give credence to the rumours that one of our group, or someone who’s been close enough to our group to gather names, is “one of them”. But who..? Libby? Maybe, but I think she‘s too obvious... Desmond? Certainly could be one of the others; and he met Jack, Locke and Kate, so would have known there names… But I’m not really sure when he would have had time to compile a list of any sort. Finally there’s Danielle, who I’m still very suspicious of, and has also came into contact with Jack and Locke (going to the Black Rock), so could have known there names. However, I think it’s more likely that Ethan simply gave Zeke the names he could remember - I mean, he hunted a few times with Locke, so would know him, and would probably know Jack with him being the leader of the group. It’s an easier explanation than there being an “insider”, but at least the option’s there for the writers should they run out of storylines at some point. Zeke, the ragged clothes, and the false beard..? Interesting, but probably not vastly important in the overall scheme of things. Zeke and “the others” have an obvious need to appear as non doctor-like as possible. I presume it’s mainly just to instil a bit of fear into our survivors when they meet them, and not much more. The Sickness The sickness was back in this episode, though we still don’t know what it is, or whether it actually exists. The fact that they keep mentioning it would suggest to me that it’s real though, and I’ll still stick with my theory from a few pages back, that the sickness is the cause of the hallucinations and what have you. Mr Eko and Henry Gale, and Henry Gale and John Locke… and Jack... Mr Eko and Henry Gale, SUCH a good scene. Eko has been my favourite character for a while now, and Henry Gale is quickly becoming one of my favourite characters too, so this was great. Eko obviously believes that Henry Gale IS “one of them”, and so felt the need to confess his sins to him, and apologise for potentially killing some of Henry‘s mates on day one. The tufts of hair on his chin were obviously some kind of sign of guilt, so after confessing, he was finally able to slice them off. The tension when he pulled out his knife was awesome, Gale’s face throughout the entire scene was a picture, and I couldn’t help but burst out laughing at “stop talking Henry”, for whatever reason. I also liked that they had Eko give a few more “hello”s when he was walking through the hatch… So Awesome. Locke and Jack is going to be an interesting one in the coming weeks. Gale completely played him, and to be honest, it didn’t particularly surprise me. Locke has shown in the past that he CAN be wound up, and that, contrary to popular belief, he is actually only human after all. I’m looking forward to seeing where this one goes, because it’s been building up for absolutely AGES now. The Mobile, The Oceanic Logo, and “Raised By Another” Firstly, I’m not going to go into depth on the mobile, as it’s been done to death already whilst I’ve been away. Obviously, it seems to build upon the theories that DHARMA were involved in the crashing of the plane, and that they are somehow linked to Oceanic Airlines, HOWEVER, it could also be as Libby said - Claire’s memories mixing things up. We don’t really know exactly how trustworthy Claire’s flashbacks were in this episode, and I’m not sure we should take everything in them as absolute FACT. The mobile was a link to the dream sequence in “Raised By Another” though; with the planes flying above the cot. And that wasn’t the only link… The tune that was playing as the mobile was switched on was “Catch a Little Star, and Put it in Your Pocket”; the song that Claire asked the woman who wanted to adopt Aaron to sing to him every once in a while. Ethan’s comment to Claire was also VERY interesting; “we’re good people, Claire, we’re a good family” - remember the crazy psychic? He told Claire that the people who she had to give the baby to in LA were “good people” a “good family”. Hmmmmmmmmm… Overall a TOP CLASS episode, which - for once - didn't just impress me in terms of character development or drama, but in terms of the actual mythology of the show progressing in a satisfactory manner. There's no doubt loads of other stuff which I probably wanted to menton, but have completely forgoten; there was just so much to take in. With around 9 episodes left of season two, I think the show's pace is just about perfect at the moment (as I always said it would be ;)); we're going into the third segment of the season's story arc now, and after this episode swinging the previously tribal "others" into being mad scientists, I'm glad to say that I have absolutely NO IDEA where it's headed. The longer it stays like that, the better. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 07, 2006, 06:08:44 PM :lol:
No idea where it's going? Not the only one like. Have to agree though, I very much enjoyed that episode. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 07, 2006, 09:01:14 PM after this episode swinging the previously tribal "others" into being mad scientists, Ahem, ahem, err didn't some bloke say ages ago that the "others" were other scientists? Oh yeah that was me, wahey!! So now, I just need my redemption theory to come true and I'm laughing in the predict what's going to happen stakes!! Here's a new theory for you: Someone, possibly the others has control over people's perception of time on the island (A la Dark City see here: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118929/ ) and the others have actually been out of the new hatch for a while. Maybe this has something to do with the button. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 08, 2006, 03:13:11 PM Another interesting expansion on the "ultimate theory" that I've linked to a few times in here:
Quote Yeah so someone commented on my "numbers" into google earth theory and stated it incorrectly. This is a very brief summary of my idea on the numbers and also a possible link between Henry Gale and what he is, as in scientist/other. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well I understand that its just speculation. But here it goes. There is a place in Africa called Bangui, and at this place there is a real life unexplained anomoly called the Bangui Magnetic Anomaly. This anomaly creates a fake south/north pole. In other words messes with polar equipment and compasses and such that they fritz out and point inacurtaly at north. It is thought that due to the high ammount of precambrian rocks among this area, that a meterorite had hit some millions of years ago. A lot of precambrian rock also has magnetic qualities. This area in Bangui has coordinates, these coordinates are 4 8 15 16 23 42. Anyone who has seen the show knows the significance of these coordinates. Curious about the Bangui Anomaly? Look it up, its real. www.blackwell-synergy....03.00403.x www.mayanmajix.com/art1251.html The location is also decently close to Nigeria, which will come into play later. The antipode, or the opposite side of the world from these coordinates is (-4 8 15 16 23 42). This so happens to place us inbetween The west coast of the US and Australia near a chain of small islands. Coincidence? I think not. The antipode above is not correct im not sure the correct use of the numbers within the antipode but you'll see what i mean when you look on google earth. The program Google Earth can give great insight on exact locations of these coordinates and give you a more realistic and startling view of whats going on. Try downloading it, its free. earth.google.com/ If you track a straight flight plan course across the pacific ocean from LAX to Sydney Internation Airport. You find that it passes just north of the coordinates to the "island." This of course is the antipode to the Bangui coordinates. If you track from flight path down to the island, you see that its 1000 miles off course. The same distance as they stated towards the begining of the series. It is thought that the Earths Magnetic poles could possible shift creating a catastophic event. Much like the concept in the movie, The Core, this could end the world as we know it if this shift were to ever occur. The possible new north and south poles could end up being, the Bangui Anomoly coordinates, and the island. There are real satalites in outer space right now orbiting the earth calculating this data. They are called N.O.A.A satellites, or swan satelites, yet another conection to the DHARMA swan. www.uen.org/swan/argos.html These satellites rotate the earth 14 times a day, "if" the orbit is situated on magnetic poles. This works out to be a satellite over head at a specific spot every 108 minutes. Another coincidence? Yet again I think not. The swan stations set up to record this information are by "threes", the DHARMA group has three stations. The idea is that the information recorded on magnetic fields moving can be sent to these three stations, and get an understanding of "if" and "how much" the magnetic poles have moved. You need three locations to triangulate a signal. Hints the three stations. There are 6, maybe more on the island but 3 are used to signal the S.O.A.A.s My idea after seeing these actual real life facts, is that the DHARMA group situated themselves on this island to study and research the antipode of the Bangui Anomaly, and also the potential melt down of our polor spheres. The satelites cross over head on the "new" poles every 108 mins and recieve information for base stations...aka the hatch. by entering in thier current location, 4 8 15 16 23 42, the "numbers" they send information to the satelite to tell it how much the poles have shifted. Also these numbers could be to stabalize the opposite side of the worlds anitpode magnetic anomaly from triggering a massive melt down of the poles. The satelites relay this information to keep this from happening. Yet what are the scientists there? Are they the "others"? What are they doing? This is unknown to me, but I guess all answers will be found in due time. Also another question about how a Nigerian small cargo plane could end up on the other side of the world between LA and Syd, could be answered by the Bangui Anomaly in Africa. If they traveled through this area, much like the bermuda triangle, they could possibly sent to the island, or the opposite side of the world. Much like a worm hole in space. Back to precambrain rock. The rock that is predominant in Bangui. I looked up precambrian rock percentages in the US and there is only one area that it is incredibly high, this area is called the Superior Uplands. The Superior Uplands are located in.....Minnasota. The following link is to a map showing the location of precambrian rock. tapestry.usgs.gov/ages...brian.html This Henry Gale is from Minnasota. He also stated that he mined.........NON-metallic rock. This rock he mined could be....the precambrian rock that is so prevelant in the Bangui Magnetic Anomoly area. Could he possibly be an other but used some facts from his real life to make is sound more real? Are the "others" scientists on the island? Thats just my two cents on the subject. Of course many things are un answered but this gives a better view into what might be going on. Of course the rest of this other theory all plays into this. It just gives meaning to the numbers themselves. How do people come up with this stuff? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Apisith on March 08, 2006, 03:35:03 PM Fantastic!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 08, 2006, 06:03:37 PM another great post Andy.
I think maybe the whole show revolves around Clare and the Baby, hence why she was taken. Maybe her physcologist is one of the others? maybe they extend further from the island? Didnt her physcologist presuade her onto the plane, which lead to good people and a good family? Also maybe the rest of the people on the plane ie Locke, Jack etc are all just there. I mean maybe the others took the plane down to get clare and the baby? Could be that Jack, Locke etc are just a smoke sceen, making us think they are the main people when in fact they arnt.Do you think maybe Clares old boyfriend has something to do with this? i think he was an artist, i remember the paintings in Clare's apartment similar to the ones in the hatch. Also i am surprised people fail to mention the fact that the others have a thing for children. I mean they took Danielle's child, they took Walt (who we havent seen much off btw, i expect a swift return soon) and they tried taking Clares baby. Also i have another theroy that all the hatches and buildings are connected. Remember the thick walls in the hatch?, we still dont know what is behind them. Also we havent learnt what the magnetic field is. Also maybe the escape hatch leads to some sort of underground tunnel system? Another thing about previous episodes is that maybe the whole numbers, hatch thing is another smoke screen. Maybe The Others are in control of the hatch. Like i said maybe they are connected and the thick wall is deliberately put there. Remember Zeke saying to Jack, "Opening doors that you should have kept close" by this i think he means the hatch. Also the computer talking to Michael seems strange, again i think this is the others at work. What my point here is that maybe Desmond was a test. Maybe the others where testing him, who knows but i definately think the are responsible for the hatch and are still in control. The question is why did they want Michael? Andy you said about this list, remember when Zeke said to Ethen about the list this was in clare's flashback. So this was before the hatch, before desmond etc, this early/mod season 1. So this raises the question how did they know names. I think maybe Ethen was undercover the whole time, the producers just didnt put him in play until the manifest was checked. Similar to the other who was wish the group from the tail of the plane. I expect to see more confrontation, i mean how else do we find out how the plane crashed. I also believe there is a major building like a head quarters but again underground, all the buildings so far are underground and i am 95% sure they are connected by underground corridors of some kind. That all i have to say for now. The next episode looks dull btw, calm before the storm Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 08, 2006, 08:22:04 PM Sun/Jin episodes are always dull, that's what's so good about them :cool:
I hear there's a big cliffhanger at the end though... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 09, 2006, 03:00:37 PM Bad news:
Quote Unfortunately, due to family commitments, Darren Aronofsky will no longer be directing an episode of lost this season. He is likely to direct an episode in season 3 instead. I was looking forward to his episode as well... Something to look forward to in season 3 though, I suppose. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 09, 2006, 03:26:44 PM Bad news: Quote Unfortunately, due to family commitments, Darren Aronofsky will no longer be directing an episode of lost this season. He is likely to direct an episode in season 3 instead. I was looking forward to his episode as well... Something to look forward to in season 3 though, I suppose. Bollocks!!!!!!!!! bluecry.gif bluecry.gif bluecry.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: alpal78 on March 09, 2006, 03:59:53 PM Can someone explain to me what Eko was doing when he cut off his beard in front of the guy in the armoury (sorry forgot his name)? Could it be that Eko is also amonsgt the others who however defected to join Ana Lucia's camp, and after seeking repentance (signified by cutting off his beard), he is now ready to rejoin the others' camp and be their insider?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 09, 2006, 04:07:44 PM Can someone explain to me what Eko was doing when he cut off his beard in front of the guy in the armoury (sorry forgot his name)? Could it be that Eko is also amonsgt the others who however defected to join Ana Lucia's camp, and after seeking repentance (signified by cutting off his beard), he is now ready to rejoin the others' camp and be their insider? Nah, I don't think that's likely. The beard thing just represented the two lives he had taken, and now he's apologised for taking them his repented for his "sins" and is back to normal. Clean slate type of thing. He's not an informer, did you see how Henry shat himself when Mr E took his knife out? He thought he was going to kill him, he wouldn't have reacted like that if he new he was an other. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 09, 2006, 04:39:11 PM Going back to "him" that zeke and ethan were talking about, does anyone think it could actually be Henry?
I mean, it would be a great twist if he actually turned out to be the big, big, BIG bad guy on the show; especially if they were to find his balloon (which had conveniently been planted by 'the others') and trust him to mix in with the rest of the group, allowing him to completely f*** them up from within... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: alpal78 on March 09, 2006, 06:40:09 PM Can someone explain to me what Eko was doing when he cut off his beard in front of the guy in the armoury (sorry forgot his name)? Could it be that Eko is also amonsgt the others who however defected to join Ana Lucia's camp, and after seeking repentance (signified by cutting off his beard), he is now ready to rejoin the others' camp and be their insider? Nah, I don't think that's likely. The beard thing just represented the two lives he had taken, and now he's apologised for taking them his repented for his "sins" and is back to normal. Clean slate type of thing. He's not an informer, did you see how Henry shat himself when Mr E took his knife out? He thought he was going to kill him, he wouldn't have reacted like that if he new he was an other. But if Henry knew he was an 'other' who had defected and killed 2 other 'others', dont you think he would have shat himself the way he did. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 09, 2006, 06:51:15 PM Can someone explain to me what Eko was doing when he cut off his beard in front of the guy in the armoury (sorry forgot his name)? Could it be that Eko is also amonsgt the others who however defected to join Ana Lucia's camp, and after seeking repentance (signified by cutting off his beard), he is now ready to rejoin the others' camp and be their insider? Nah, I don't think that's likely. The beard thing just represented the two lives he had taken, and now he's apologised for taking them his repented for his "sins" and is back to normal. Clean slate type of thing. He's not an informer, did you see how Henry shat himself when Mr E took his knife out? He thought he was going to kill him, he wouldn't have reacted like that if he new he was an other. But if Henry knew he was an 'other' who had defected and killed 2 other 'others', dont you think he would have shat himself the way he did. Then why would Henry keep up the pretence of being an innocent, who didn't know why they were holding him etc, in front of Mr E, even if he was a defector? There was no-one else in the room. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 09, 2006, 06:51:48 PM Going back to "him" that zeke and ethan were talking about, does anyone think it could actually be Henry? I mean, it would be a great twist if he actually turned out to be the big, big, BIG bad guy on the show; especially if they were to find his balloon (which had conveniently been planted by 'the others') and trust him to mix in with the rest of the group, allowing him to completely **** them up from within... Yeah, that would be great!! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on March 09, 2006, 07:19:27 PM Going back to "him" that zeke and ethan were talking about, does anyone think it could actually be Henry? I mean, it would be a great twist if he actually turned out to be the big, big, BIG bad guy on the show; especially if they were to find his balloon (which had conveniently been planted by 'the others') and trust him to mix in with the rest of the group, allowing him to completely **** them up from within... Yeah, that would be great!! but isn't this LOTF bit supposed to be finito by series 3? he wouldn't have time to completly f*** them up. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 09, 2006, 07:29:06 PM Going back to "him" that zeke and ethan were talking about, does anyone think it could actually be Henry? I mean, it would be a great twist if he actually turned out to be the big, big, BIG bad guy on the show; especially if they were to find his balloon (which had conveniently been planted by 'the others') and trust him to mix in with the rest of the group, allowing him to completely **** them up from within... Yeah, that would be great!! but isn't this LOTF bit supposed to be finito by series 3? he wouldn't have time to completly **** them up. They're already pretty close to that at the moment, what with Locke and his hissy fits, talk about easy to wind up, he wouldn't last five seconds with the likes of T27 and AS9!! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on March 09, 2006, 07:40:40 PM true :lol:
he has some unresolved issues Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 10, 2006, 10:10:13 AM Looks like they're starting to run out of episode titles now anyway. Episode 18 will apparently be called "Dave".
We should have a sweepstake on what they'll call the season finale. I'll take "Derek". Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 10, 2006, 02:05:50 PM Looks like they're starting to run out of episode titles now anyway. Episode 18 will apparently be called "Dave". We should have a sweepstake on what they'll call the season finale. I'll take "Derek". I'll Take "Last Episode of Season 2" Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 10, 2006, 05:25:41 PM Bet the last ever gets called "and found" or something equally crap, but they've already sank to those depths haven't they.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on March 10, 2006, 05:41:32 PM el finito.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 10, 2006, 06:43:23 PM "That's all Folks"
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 10, 2006, 06:46:35 PM Quote This area in Bangui has coordinates, these coordinates are 4 8 15 16 23 42. Anyone who has seen the show knows the significance of these coordinates. Curious about the Bangui Anomaly? Look it up, its real. www.blackwell-synergy....03.00403.x www.mayanmajix.com/art1251.html The location is also decently close to Nigeria, which will come into play later. The antipode, or the opposite side of the world from these coordinates is (-4 8 15 16 23 42). This so happens to place us inbetween The west coast of the US and Australia near a chain of small islands. Coincidence? I think not. The antipode above is not correct im not sure the correct use of the numbers within the antipode but you'll see what i mean when you look on google earth. The program Google Earth can give great insight on exact locations of these coordinates and give you a more realistic and startling view of whats going on. Try downloading it, its free. earth.google.com/ If you track a straight flight plan course across the pacific ocean from LAX to Sydney Internation Airport. You find that it passes just north of the coordinates to the "island." This of course is the antipode to the Bangui coordinates. If you track from flight path down to the island, you see that its 1000 miles off course. The same distance as they stated towards the begining of the series. It is thought that the Earths Magnetic poles could possible shift creating a catastophic event. Much like the concept in the movie, The Core, this could end the world as we know it if this shift were to ever occur. The possible new north and south poles could end up being, the Bangui Anomoly coordinates, and the island. Does anyone know what the correct antipode would be for the numbers so that I can stick it into Google Earth? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 10, 2006, 07:09:49 PM 4.815, 162.342
Are the probable co-ordinates of the island. https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4.815+162.342&ll=-7.100893,169.804688&spn=104.52837,222.1875&t=h Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 10, 2006, 07:12:59 PM I've found this re: the above but don't really know how it works. Any ideas anyone?
https://www.macchiato.com/distance/ Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 10, 2006, 08:00:49 PM Nope.
My geography's limited to entering co-ordinates into google maps I'm afraid. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on March 10, 2006, 08:02:09 PM you've LOST me there. I was never the quickest
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Adam^ on March 10, 2006, 08:11:27 PM What distance are you trying to work out ?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 10, 2006, 08:56:51 PM What distance are you trying to work out ? I'm just going off the theory that Andy quoted, tried to pin point the antipode of the coordinates 4 8 15 N 16 23 42 E which going off the theory is where they are. Cracking theory by the way. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 12, 2006, 08:55:51 AM Speaking with a few mates last night, and we got round to think about the whole thing. Reckon Locke's Dad (con man) is the real Sawyer? I don't know if that's been mentioned before mind you.
Thought that was interesting, and we got on to thinking he just might be 'him'. PS. Is it true there's a 6 week f****** break? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: 80 on March 12, 2006, 12:25:01 PM Speaking with a few mates last night, and we got round to think about the whole thing. Reckon Locke's Dad (con man) is the real Sawyer? I don't know if that's been mentioned before mind you. Thought that was interesting, and we got on to thinking he just might be 'him'. PS. Is it true there's a 6 week f****** break? Good idea. Probably not, like. Good thinking all the same :D Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 12, 2006, 12:47:42 PM PS. Is it true there's a 6 week f****** break? No. The next episode is on the 22nd, then there's three episodes in a row, then one more 3 week break, followed by 5 episodes in a row. There's a calender on the first page of the thread ;) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 12, 2006, 02:33:41 PM I wish i could watch Series two:(
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 12, 2006, 02:34:13 PM Why can't you?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 12, 2006, 02:38:24 PM Risk of being done doing p2p.
I know you can buy them via Itunes in America, but the UK Itunes don't have them yet. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 12, 2006, 02:46:57 PM Use newsgroups.
Register on livejournal.com and search for the user "lost_eps" and add them to your friends. I'm sure if you then added "lost_eps" (without the quotes) to the end of https://community.livejournal.com/ you'd be able to find what you're looking for. Not that this is condoned by myself, Newcastle-online.com, or any of it's owners of course. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 12, 2006, 02:56:21 PM Right, i'm on, signed up and everything.
Pardon my stupidity, what do i do next? I'm also part of the Lost group thing. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 12, 2006, 03:03:05 PM Search for the user "lost_eps" and add them to your friends (there should be a few square buttons next each other in a blue box, the first to the left says "monitor this community" when you hover over it; that's the one you want to click).
Then go to https://community.livejournal.com /lost_eps and browse through the posts. You might need to click "go earlier" at the bottom to get some of the earlier episodes. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 12, 2006, 03:05:43 PM Right, i'm on a page where it has all the eps on it, but i can't find out where to aquire them.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 12, 2006, 03:12:52 PM Try this one here (remove the spaces from the URL):
https://community.livejournal.com/ lost_eps/ 705561.html If you can't access it, go back to the livejournal.com main page and make sure you're logged in. All you have to do is copy and paste the links into your address bar, change them so that the "hxxp://" is "https://", press enter, and you should be taken to the download page. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 12, 2006, 03:17:54 PM What's the speed like on that Andy? Better or worse than BT?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 12, 2006, 03:21:34 PM What's the speed like on that Andy? Better or worse than BT? Depends on where you're downloading from obviously, but it's generally better than bt, yeah. Only problem is that new episodes aren't available as early. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 12, 2006, 03:28:07 PM BT's going to 8 meg on April 4th.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 12, 2006, 03:28:31 PM Cheers, I'll have a look.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 12, 2006, 03:30:36 PM BT's going to 8 meg on April 4th. By BT we mean bit torrent, not british telecom ;) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 12, 2006, 03:34:01 PM BT's going to 8 meg on April 4th. By BT we mean bit torrent, not british telecom ;) Oh, well, theres some info for you then. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Spoilers up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: captainhaircut on March 12, 2006, 03:53:31 PM does no-one use grabit to get there episodes? can get episodes in no time at all with no upload at all.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 13, 2006, 04:36:22 PM Another decent "ultimate theory"; some of it ties in with the other one a bit, but some of it's different, and quite interesting:
https://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15883 Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Scottish Mag on March 13, 2006, 04:42:43 PM Another decent "ultimate theory"; some of it ties in with the other one a bit, but some of it's different, and quite interesting: https://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15883 Did HTT write that? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 13, 2006, 04:44:31 PM Quote 5. Ophiuchus/or Asclepius= serpent handler we now have this station too 6. Orion = the hunter ( I bet this one ties into the Shark ) I have pages of Apollo's connections to the stars, but I will only link the info here. Looks like it ;) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 13, 2006, 06:12:13 PM does no-one use grabit to get there episodes? can get episodes in no time at all with no upload at all. Downloaded it but I have no news server on Bull(s***)dog. :( Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 13, 2006, 07:03:30 PM Same with me on Pipex; you have to pay extra to access their news server.
Daft really, when you can just use livejournal for free. PS. Look at the page number. We're all DOOMED tbh. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: ticaL on March 13, 2006, 08:20:22 PM I'd worry if we got to 108...
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 13, 2006, 08:23:59 PM If we ever manage to get to 108 we're resetting back to 1. Like an inverse countdown thingy.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: jasonx_102 on March 13, 2006, 08:27:32 PM How long till we can type in the numbers to bring it back down. Where the f*** is Locke he should be here its his shift
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 13, 2006, 10:21:09 PM I'd worry if we got to 108... On that note... https://img463.imageshack.us/img463/3923/1088xs.png Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 13, 2006, 10:50:23 PM ive looked at the theories, lets face it, its a tv show, they will be forever explaining the show if one of those theories is the right one, it will be something simple mark my words
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 13, 2006, 10:54:33 PM ive looked at the theories, lets face it, its a tv show, they will be forever explaining the show if one of those theories is the right one, it will be something simple mark my words It wouldn't be too difficult to explain with good writing, if they spread the answers out over a couple of seasons.Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 13, 2006, 10:57:42 PM ive looked at the theories, lets face it, its a tv show, they will be forever explaining the show if one of those theories is the right one, it will be something simple mark my words It wouldn't be too difficult to explain with good writing, if they spread the answers out over a couple of seasons.Anyway, cheers for sorting me out with the sites mate, up to ep 10 now, bloody brilliant program. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: jasonx_102 on March 15, 2006, 07:18:18 PM Bump.
How did this fall to the 2nd page!!! Heads will roll I tell you. Heads will f****** roll!!!! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 15, 2006, 10:32:51 PM Just had a look at the first page to see if anything was on tonight, but nooooooooooooooo they're still on f****** holiday!!!
Anyway, that's not what I want to talk about, so basically, whilst I was looking I accidentally ;) looked at the next few episodes. Next week's sounds a bit dull, ooooh a secret wow, but the following week looks class!! It's got Sayid in it so it must be. Anyway, my prediction for what happens in that episode is that when the group go off to find out Henry's secret stash, or whatever, something happens and the blast doors come down trapping Locke inside the Hatch on his own. I've got a feeling this might also cause him an injury, but maybe not. As a result I reckon he has to come to an arrangement with Henry to press the button etc and therefore has to let him out of his cell and trust him. This leads to all kinds of interesting possibilities. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 16, 2006, 06:34:57 AM You never know, the next episode might actually be quite good, despite being sun/jin centric.
Only thing is, it's written by Liz Sarnoff, whose previous two episodes were 'Abandoned' and 'The Hunting Party'. Both should have been great, but in the end were only slightly above average. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 16, 2006, 08:04:37 AM I'm not sure if this is true, but when out the other night, it was accepted as a fact that Sun is preggers. f*** knows where that came from, but worth posting, just incase I'm right! Can you shed anything on that?
Convinced Locke's dad is the real Sawyer though. All fits together for me, just a matter of time before it gets confirmed. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Decky on March 16, 2006, 10:13:39 AM Henry Gale crashed his hot air balloon? how can the likes of Locke and Jack not know this is bullshit here? its the Wizard of Oz for ****s sake bluelaugh.gif
Couple of notes from the previous podcast: The numbers will count down this season and something WILL happen. After this break they said there will be a straight run of episodes to the season finale, althought there is a two week break in 3 weeks bluelaugh.gif Sawyer killing the frog is in some way significant. When the group met the others in the jungle, Zeke apparently shouted Alex, never heard this though. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 16, 2006, 04:30:25 PM When the group met the others in the jungle, Zeke apparently shouted Alex, never heard this though. Aye, people picked up on that. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 16, 2006, 04:57:28 PM From what I've heard, "Dave" could be potentially excellent by the way. Especially the flashbacks.
I'm not going to spoil anything (not even via PM :tongue3:), but - if it's done as well as I've been told it could be - there's going to be a great twist towards the end, possibly on par with Walkabout. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 16, 2006, 09:37:12 PM I'm all caught up now.
Just finished Maternity Leave, whens the next ep air? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 16, 2006, 10:43:18 PM Wednesday night.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 16, 2006, 10:54:48 PM Anyone thinking Lockes going to turn out a bad egg?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 17, 2006, 11:42:06 AM Anyone thinking Lockes going to turn out a bad egg? Yep. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: captainhaircut on March 18, 2006, 12:30:59 AM hey losticists, lostites whatever was decided we'd be called, i was wondering if you would help me distinguish something. In man of science, man of faith when jack is talking to desmond in the stadium, oneof the final things good ld des says to jack is 'you gotta lift it up', then theres a pause, jack repeats 'lift it up?', a longer pause, and the desmond says 'your ankle you've gotta lift it up'. its too overplayed to mean just the ankle IMO. too much emphasis is placed on it. So i was thinking, maybe 'u gotta lift it up' means something else. No clue what it means or why desmond would say it. Anyone fancy just confirming my theory or proving me wrong, whatever.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: 80 on March 18, 2006, 01:00:27 AM Personally, I think there must be something in Locke becoming poncy, of late. I mean, Jack pushing him up against a wall? Hunterman should've gone "BOOYAA!" and broken his neck. Would've done us all a favour :D
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 18, 2006, 11:09:35 AM hey losticists, lostites whatever was decided we'd be called, i was wondering if you would help me distinguish something. In man of science, man of faith when jack is talking to desmond in the stadium, oneof the final things good ld des says to jack is 'you gotta lift it up', then theres a pause, jack repeats 'lift it up?', a longer pause, and the desmond says 'your ankle you've gotta lift it up'. its too overplayed to mean just the ankle IMO. too much emphasis is placed on it. So i was thinking, maybe 'u gotta lift it up' means something else. No clue what it means or why desmond would say it. Anyone fancy just confirming my theory or proving me wrong, whatever. Yup, i thought that, I've got a feeling we'll be seeing Desmond soon. As for Locke, he's been turning intoa a right t*** of late, moving the guns (and failing), change the lock code of the door etc. End of ep 15 he kicked right off, that Henry really got into his head. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 18, 2006, 12:39:31 PM No way Locke will be a bad guy. There's more chance of Jack managing to go an entire episode without having some kind of mental breakdown or tantrum, and that will NEVER happen.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 18, 2006, 12:57:10 PM I think people are mistaking frustration for a 'bad egg'. Locke's a good guy, deep down. ;)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 18, 2006, 02:13:55 PM I think people are mistaking frustration for a 'bad egg'. Locke's a good guy, deep down. ;) I hope so.Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 19, 2006, 08:48:02 PM Question for you guys. Yknow in Episode five when Jack see's his Dad, find his empty coffin etc...
Is there any closure to that? Theres been no mention of it even up to Maternity leave. Anyone shed any light on this? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 19, 2006, 09:19:25 PM Don't think there's been any closer. If so, I missed it. I suspect it'll pop up sometime soon though.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 19, 2006, 11:03:46 PM Yeah, they've got the black and white stones and "Adam and eve" still to go back to as well, if they haven't forgotten about them.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 19, 2006, 11:05:27 PM Yeah, they've got the black and white stones and "Adam and eve" still to go back to as well, if they haven't forgotten about them. Remind me of the 'Adam and Eve' atuff again... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 19, 2006, 11:08:32 PM And they've basically just dumped the caves, seemingly never to be spoken of again.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 19, 2006, 11:08:55 PM Yeah, they've got the black and white stones and "Adam and eve" still to go back to as well, if they haven't forgotten about them. Remind me of the 'Adam and Eve' atuff again... It was in House of the Rising Sun - season 1, episode 6. Charlie, Jack, Locke and Kate were going to the caves to bring back water, Charlie stepped on a bee hive, they all ran to the caves, and then Kate and Jack stumbled upon two decomposed bodies, carrying one black stone and one white stone. Locke named them "Adam and Eve". Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 19, 2006, 11:10:26 PM Ah yeah, remember now.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 19, 2006, 11:10:32 PM And they've basically just dumped the caves, seemingly never to be spoken of again. Damon Lindelof explained that the other week. He said now that they have the hatch for water, shelter and protection, there was little use for the caves. It's probably easier for them to record in the beach scenery as well, I'd guess; so that no doubt comes into it too. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 19, 2006, 11:12:33 PM And they've basically just dumped the caves, seemingly never to be spoken of again. Damon Lindelof explained that the other week. He said now that they have the hatch for water, shelter and protection, there was little use for the caves. It's probably easier for them to record in the beach scenery as well, I'd guess; so that no doubt comes into it too. Do you ever get the impression they're making it up as they go along??? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 19, 2006, 11:16:08 PM And they've basically just dumped the caves, seemingly never to be spoken of again. Damon Lindelof explained that the other week. He said now that they have the hatch for water, shelter and protection, there was little use for the caves. It's probably easier for them to record in the beach scenery as well, I'd guess; so that no doubt comes into it too. Do you ever get the impression they're making it up as they go along??? When it comes to directorial issues like recording locations, yep. All shows are the same really. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 19, 2006, 11:28:45 PM Well its not like they are recording it live, they've got the finished article, they've got the finale, or series finale.
Speaking on finales, will there be another series? Hope Locke chills out for next ep, and i hope we find out who Henry is. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 19, 2006, 11:30:47 PM Well its not like they are recording it live, they've got the finished article, they've got the finale, or series finale. Speaking on finales, will there be another series? Nah, they only record two episodes ahead, 3 at the very most. That's why there's so many mid-season breaks. There will be a third series, yeah. They'll probably end it after about 5 at a guess, depending on ratings. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 19, 2006, 11:31:44 PM bluebigeek.gif
Christ. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 19, 2006, 11:35:04 PM Walts words to Shannon.
https://www.thetailsection.com/waltspeak.mp3 Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 21, 2006, 08:34:38 PM Here's a whole plethora of spoilery stuff for you all dig your teeth into, from Javi:
Quote Henry's true identity is going to be the topic of a lot of contention on the show. We plan on heaping twist upon twist upon twist with that! Henry is a character that the fans are going to have to watch very closely, because he carries great meaning for the future of Lost and the castaways in general. On the island, his ultimate faith is going to affect everyone on the show. Fans should keep close attention to the Others and where they have drawn a line on the island. You can expect that situation to get a lot worse. There are going to be some surprises that are going to be some very dark turns, that at least one of the characters is going to make. One of the characters is going to have a shocking destiny! The focus of the season is how do we co-exist with the Others. Their intentions are very obscure. The survivors and the Others, both through circumstance and willingly, are going to step over the line drawn by Mr. Friendly, and the results of that are what the rest of the season is going to be about. We are building towards a serious moment of chaos. We will learn about what happened to Michael, who did he see and who was communicating with him, and the way in which his story resolves itself is going to be a major concern of the last third of the season. The Others are by no means anything that we think they are. What is going to be interesting is how that unfolds -- that is something we are going to be giving you some very definte hints about towards the end of this season, but the full picture of who the Others are, why they're here, and what they're doing, is going to remain a mystery for a while. Rousseau is one of those characters who is always going to be in the periphery of events. The Kate, Jack and Sawyer situation will get more complicated. You can expect that to be unresolved for a while to come! In response to the frustration he lives on the island, Locke is going to go to some new places that we have not seen that character go to before. Last, but most certainly not least, we'll be treating you to a Rose and Bernard flashback before the end of the season. Let me tell you this; it's extremely interesting, and you don't want to miss it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 21, 2006, 09:58:20 PM Sounds bloody brilliant.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 21, 2006, 10:00:42 PM It does, but I wish I didn't read it. Just makes you want to watch them all right now. Like when I watched episode 1-9 in one day for the first time. Was brilliant. :D
Hate waiting weeks at a time. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 21, 2006, 10:04:30 PM It does, but I wish I didn't read it. Just makes you want to watch them all right now. Like when I watched episode 1-9 in one day for the first time. Was brilliant. :D Hate waiting weeks at a time. I watched Eps 1 to 40 in 5 days. Christ! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 21, 2006, 10:06:07 PM Do you not think it's much better like that though? When it's on weekly I struggle to keep tabs of who is who. I, infact, gave up on it when it was on TV over here.
God bless broadband. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 21, 2006, 10:08:50 PM i didnt watch it when it was first broadcasted, i bought the series one boxset from Tescos for 45 quid, then aquired the second series by other means. bluebigrazz.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 21, 2006, 10:16:40 PM Do you not think it's much better like that though? When it's on weekly I struggle to keep tabs of who is who. I, infact, gave up on it when it was on TV over here. I watched series one like that, and tbh, I think I'm in the minority who actually prefer to watch it weekly/fortnightly. I like to watch each episode a couple of times to take everything in, and then have a week or two to look forward to the next episode. I think it's hard to concentrate when you watch it all at once, and it's easy forget important stuff. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 21, 2006, 11:28:57 PM Do you not think it's much better like that though? When it's on weekly I struggle to keep tabs of who is who. I, infact, gave up on it when it was on TV over here. I watched series one like that, and tbh, I think I'm in the minority who actually prefer to watch it weekly/fortnightly. I like to watch each episode a couple of times to take everything in, and then have a week or two to look forward to the next episode. I think it's hard to concentrate when you watch it all at once, and it's easy forget important stuff. I see what you're getting at. And I suppose now that I've caught up it has allowed me to do that with the new ones, but I also do find myself going through series one every quite a bit. Impossible not to watch episodes again really. Well it depends how into it you are, I guess. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NufcSteven90 on March 22, 2006, 05:11:54 PM Found some toon fans who like 'Lost'. bluebiggrin.gif
I just love it my favourtie TV program thats why I started a forum and website about it can't wait for epsiode 16 should be good. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 22, 2006, 05:32:28 PM I was thinking... On the opening page of the thread, I have ratings for each episode... Would people be interested if I set up a pole in the thread after every episode, allowing you lot give your ratings for that episode, and take an average score from that?
Would add a little bit of interactivity, rather than me just giving my scores. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 22, 2006, 05:55:25 PM Aye, go for it. Good idea.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 22, 2006, 06:48:50 PM Cracking idea Andy! Get it sorted after tonights.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: BooBoo on March 22, 2006, 06:53:38 PM If the meantime who would win in a foxy box between Losts Kate and Prison Breaks Dr Sara??
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: indi on March 22, 2006, 06:57:50 PM If the meantime who would win in a foxy box between Losts Kate and Prison Breaks Dr Sara?? Sun would jump into the ring and kick both their arses!! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Andy on March 22, 2006, 07:29:17 PM Right, this ratings thing...
I'll set it up so it's the same format as I use now. Basically going off the standards of previous episodes. So...: 5 star - Outstanding. Pivotal. On par with "Pilot", "Walkabout", "MoS,MoF", "The 23rd Psalm" etc. 4 star - Great. On par with "Homecoming", "One of Them", "The Other 48 Days" etc. 3 star - Good. Maybe could/should have been better. On par with "The Greater Good", "Born to Run", "... In translation" etc. 2 star - Dissapointing. On par with "Whatever the Case May be", "Adrift" etc. 1 star - Woefully bad. Worse than anything that's yet aired. I'm not sure whether to get an average rating of all the votes, or just go with the majority decision. What does everyone think? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 22, 2006, 10:15:50 PM Yup sounds good to me.
Ep 16 gets aired tonight in the US? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 22, 2006, 10:47:54 PM Right, this ratings thing... I'll set it up so it's the same format as I use now. Basically going off the standards of previous episodes. So...: 5 star - Outstanding. Pivotal. On par with "Pilot", "Walkabout", "MoS,MoF", "The 23rd Psalm" etc. 4 star - Great. On par with "Homecoming", "One of Them", "The Other 48 Days" etc. 3 star - Good. Maybe could/should have been better. On par with "The Greater Good", "Born to Run", "... In translation" etc. 2 star - Dissapointing. On par with "Whatever the Case May be", "Adrift" etc. 1 star - Woefully bad. Worse than anything that's yet aired. I'm not sure whether to get an average rating of all the votes, or just go with the majority decision. What does everyone think? I'd go for an average as I'm not sure how many votes you'll get - I'm not sure how many people are watching series 2. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 15: Maternity Leave* Post by: Geordiesned on March 22, 2006, 10:48:55 PM Yup sounds good to me. Ep 16 gets aired tonight in the US? Yep :D :D :D Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 22, 2006, 11:07:11 PM Not really expecting a great deal of plot advancement in this one, but hopefully Jin will come up with some more memorable one-word-over-and-over-againers.
gun. Gun. GUN. GUN! GUN! GUN! GUN! GUN! GUN! GGGGGGGUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNN! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 23, 2006, 11:05:35 AM Anyone know when The Whole Truth will be available to be aquired?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Decky on March 23, 2006, 11:28:42 AM Anyone know when The Whole Truth will be available to be aquired? i started downloading at 9 oclock this morning Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Southern Geordie on March 23, 2006, 01:42:48 PM Anyone know when The Whole Truth will be available to be aquired? i started downloading at 9 oclock this morning Would it be possible to send me a link ? :P Cheers as always Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: chip2388 on March 23, 2006, 01:43:22 PM Link here as well please!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 23, 2006, 02:28:17 PM PM me if you want linkage.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: captainhaircut on March 23, 2006, 02:35:09 PM Average at best. can't be arsed to say anymore.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 23, 2006, 05:06:49 PM Awwwwww man :( Got half way through watching, only to find that the rest of the episode's sound is completely f***** up
Didn't seem as much of a "filler" as the usual sun/jin stuff like, so it's better than I was expecting. The scenes with Henry, in particular, have been totally awesome so far. Quickly becoming my new favourite character tbh. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: captainhaircut on March 23, 2006, 05:09:27 PM I'm quickly developing a bit of a hatred for henry! i don't see how he can't be an other becuase michael emerson is only down for small arc and therefore must be an other in order for him to be written out of it. Unless they killed an innocent man. the writers would love to do something like that and then investigate the social repurcussions.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 23, 2006, 05:22:03 PM I'm quickly developing a bit of a hatred for henry! i don't see how he can't be an other becuase michael emerson is only down for small arc and therefore must be an other in order for him to be written out of it. Unless they killed an innocent man. the writers would love to do something like that and then investigate the social repurcussions. The thing is, they won't put him on a permanent contract until we know more about his character; otherwise it kinda gives the game away if we know he's going to be on the show long-term. He's currently contracted for 6 episodes, but I'd imagine it will probably be extended within the next few weeks (unless they DO actually intend to kill him). Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Geordiesned on March 23, 2006, 09:24:15 PM Overall quite a poor episode but I loved the ending!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 23, 2006, 09:34:03 PM Thought it was a decent episode overall. Calm before the storm, but still better than was to be expected from a sun/jin episode. Probably worth 3 stars.
"Lockdown" is going to be one of the show's best episodes so far, I can feel it in my bones. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Decky on March 23, 2006, 09:41:06 PM lockdown will be a great episode, there will be a huge cliffhanger to bring us into the last run of 5 episodes or so. This is the beginning of the answers bluebiggrin.gif plus i have a feeling the timer counts down in lockdown, they said it would this season and he cant reach the computer, the preview clear shows it counting down if you listen.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Decky on March 23, 2006, 09:58:05 PM ive sent out those pms btw
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 23, 2006, 10:00:45 PM Is there any date for when the 3rd series starts? Not that I expect there to be, but might as well ask.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: 80 on March 23, 2006, 10:16:21 PM This is not the sort of question I'd usually ask...
Did anyone think the camerawork on the early part of the Sayid/etc. trek seemed diffferent? Different film quality and shots and things. Felt like a different programme. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 23, 2006, 10:23:47 PM I'd say you have a point there. The mist over the cliff seemed guff I thought. And when it was behind Charlie and Ana it seemed different. In saying that, if I went and watched an old episode it'll probably end out being the same.
To the episode though, I actually enjoyed that a lot more than I thought I would. Like Sned said, good ending. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 23, 2006, 10:24:54 PM This is not the sort of question I'd usually ask... Did anyone think the camerawork on the early part of the Sayid/etc. trek seemed diffferent? Different film quality and shots and things. Felt like a different programme. Karen Gaviola guest directed this episode, so I guess that's probably the reason. Jack Bender and Stephen Williams do most the episodes; so obviously when there's a different director, they might do certain scenes in a different style to the usual, and it can obviously feel different because of that. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 23, 2006, 10:42:31 PM Some GREAT news from Damon Lindelof:
Quote Well, this is what I get for trying to apologize for the reruns. To the loyal fans, I thank you for hanging in. We've pushed to do FOUR new eps in this pod (instead of the original THREE) just to fight off the haters... but alas, what can we do? We have 24 hours and 36 weeks in which to air them. It sucks. And no one hates it more than we do. But on to BRIGHTER things... How awesome were Yunjin and Daniel tonight? Big props to Liz and Christina who penned this one... a great episode and the perfect quiet story before ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE next week. For those who hate the show, I am sorry. I hear CRIMINAL MINDS is awesome... although they probably don't have their own board. The 'Lagers are so sweet, I'm sure you can post your feelings about CM here without getting major flackitude! For those who love it as much as we do -- ROCK ON! The end of the reruns is upon us! So that's THREE new episodes in the next THREE weeks. ABC are finally giving into public pressure. bluebiggrin.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: indi on March 23, 2006, 11:59:45 PM Just had a look at the first page to see if anything was on tonight, but nooooooooooooooo they're still on ****ing holiday!!! Anyway, that's not what I want to talk about, so basically, whilst I was looking I accidentally ;) looked at the next few episodes. Next week's sounds a bit dull, ooooh a secret wow, but the following week looks class!! It's got Sayid in it so it must be. Anyway, my prediction for what happens in that episode is that when the group go off to find out Henry's secret stash, or whatever, something happens and the blast doors come down trapping Locke inside the Hatch on his own. I've got a feeling this might also cause him an injury, but maybe not. As a result I reckon he has to come to an arrangement with Henry to press the button etc and therefore has to let him out of his cell and trust him. This leads to all kinds of interesting possibilities. Just to remind you all where you heard it first, for when it happens exactly like that in next week's episode. I've just set myself up for a fall, haven't I!?! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 24, 2006, 12:09:17 AM I've been told more than I'd ideally like to know about the next one, so I'm not going to say much more about it than I already have.... But... If I had to GUESS, I'd GUESS that some of your ideas won't be too far away from the actual truth, but there's a whole lot more going to happen as well...
PS. Looking at that poll, I think it's safe to say that this one was a bit of a "marmite" episode... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: 80 on March 24, 2006, 01:11:57 AM This is not the sort of question I'd usually ask... Did anyone think the camerawork on the early part of the Sayid/etc. trek seemed diffferent? Different film quality and shots and things. Felt like a different programme. Karen Gaviola guest directed this episode, so I guess that's probably the reason. Jack Bender and Stephen Williams do most the episodes; so obviously when there's a different director, they might do certain scenes in a different style to the usual, and it can obviously feel different because of that. Fairly pleased I spotted that, now :D For the record, I felt it was a poor good episode. That is I wanted to like it and did, but could've like it more. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on March 24, 2006, 04:03:31 PM i really liked the ending. 4 stars for me :D
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 25, 2006, 01:44:25 PM Next week's is the one that Darren Aronofsky was initially supposed to direct btw, so that alone suggests that it's going to be pretty mental.
It'll be interesting to see how good a job Stephen Williams does on it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: indi on March 25, 2006, 02:06:45 PM Next week's is the one that Darren Aronofsky was initially supposed to direct btw, so that alone suggests that it's going to be pretty mental. It'll be interesting to see how good a job Stephen Williams does on it. Wonder if they'll use any of his trademarks? I'm looking forward to split screens, quick cut montages, and if we're really lucky, even the snori-cam!! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Decky on March 27, 2006, 01:54:26 PM hmmmm
https://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/diary/105169.html could this have anything to do with the lockdown? maybe Henrys brother is Desmond? Your thoughts Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 27, 2006, 02:08:59 PM As far as I know, even though it's written by Matt Ragghianti, the diary doesn't directly co-incide with the events on the show.
It's a just a spin-off type of thing. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 27, 2006, 02:30:19 PM More stuff from the most recent Ask Ausiello article:
Quote Question: Can you give us any more spoilers for Lost? Any at all for the upcoming episodes? — Tiana Ausiello: Major-ass prattle-poop: You remember how Carlton Cuse told me in the Dec. 7 Ask Ausiello that there wouldn't be time for a Rose/Bernard flashback episode this season? Well, looks like he found some time. My Lost mole confirms that a May-sweeps episode will delve into the couple's backstory. And not only will we find out how the lovebirds met, but we'll discover that Rose has something rather surprising in common with Locke. Any guesses? Question: Marry me? Or at least give me some good Lost spoilers. — Amanda Ausiello: I'm too focused on my career right now to even consider settling down, so here's some Lost scoop: Something big is going to happen later this season, and it's the kind of thing that will have people talking for Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: James on March 27, 2006, 03:56:37 PM Yes, I've caught up!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: indi on March 27, 2006, 06:09:59 PM More stuff from the most recent Ask Ausiello article: Quote Question: Can you give us any more spoilers for Lost? Any at all for the upcoming episodes? — Tiana Ausiello: Major-ass prattle-poop: You remember how Carlton Cuse told me in the Dec. 7 Ask Ausiello that there wouldn't be time for a Rose/Bernard flashback episode this season? Well, looks like he found some time. My Lost mole confirms that a May-sweeps episode will delve into the couple's backstory. And not only will we find out how the lovebirds met, but we'll discover that Rose has something rather surprising in common with Locke. Any guesses? Question: Marry me? Or at least give me some good Lost spoilers. — Amanda Ausiello: I'm too focused on my career right now to even consider settling down, so here's some Lost scoop: Something big is going to happen later this season, and it's the kind of thing that will have people talking for Who's Janice Dickinson? Rose used to not be able to walk. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: indi on March 27, 2006, 06:12:17 PM hmmmm https://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/diary/105169.html could this have anything to do with the lockdown? maybe Henrys brother is Desmond? Your thoughts I bet it's what'sherface? Hurley's bird. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 27, 2006, 10:59:21 PM Ok, I thought "Dave" was a bizarre title, but episode 2.21 is EVEN BETTER... The episode is called..
"?" Yes, that's a question mark. That's the episode's title. "?". At this rate, I reckon the show's final-finale will probably be called "." Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Geordiesned on March 27, 2006, 11:07:43 PM Ok, I thought "Dave" was a bizarre title, but episode 2.21 is EVEN BETTER... The episode is called.. "?" Yes, that's a question mark. That's the episode's title. "?". At this rate, I reckon the show's final-finale will probably be called "." No, it'll be "!" in a cliffhanger stylie! :D Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 28, 2006, 12:09:04 AM Voting now closed on the north pole.
"The Whole Truth" scored an average of 2.8181818181818 (etc). Rounded up, it scores a MODERATELY GOOD three stars overall. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 28, 2006, 07:33:25 PM Has anyone listened to the latest podcast yet?
Damon and Carlton were talking about ABC re-setting up The Hanso Foundation website, so that it would enable viewers to interactively fill in storyline gaps between episodes/seasons. Sounded pretty awesome by the way they were describing it. Sounded a bit like Lost Untold from the channel 4 website, but probably better. PS. how brilliantly cringe-worthy was the theme tune part? :lol: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Bellars on March 28, 2006, 09:28:03 PM Also in the podcast, they didn't confirm that Jin was actually the father of Sun's child. They actually hinted that Jae could be the father, and even mentioned something about the island making Sun pregnant. However this is surely a set up for next season, since the birth of the child would surely be far off.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Geordiesned on March 28, 2006, 10:31:48 PM Also in the podcast, they didn't confirm that Jin was actually the father of Sun's child. They actually hinted that Jae could be the father, and even mentioned something about the island making Sun pregnant. However this is surely a set up for next season, since the birth of the child would surely be far off. blueeek.gif It might be like "V" and she'll give birth to a lizard type alien! tongue3.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: 80 on March 29, 2006, 04:08:04 AM A good "f****** hell" moment would be if it turns out to be Michael's.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 29, 2006, 01:01:00 PM Tonight's the night 8) This one's going to rule SO much.
I found this earlier btw; it's Bernard and Sawyer talking to Jin, when he couldn't understand them. Nothing special, but still pretty cool I guess: https://lost.cubit.net/audio/sawyerBernard.mp3 Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: 80 on March 29, 2006, 01:15:28 PM I found this earlier btw; it's Bernard and Sawyer talking to Jin, when he couldn't understand them. Nothing special, but still pretty cool I guess: https://lost.cubit.net/audio/sawyerBernard.mp3 It was just stuck in reverse, then, was it? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: Andy on March 29, 2006, 01:17:58 PM Yeah, must have been.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 16: The Whole Truth* Post by: captainhaircut on March 29, 2006, 09:19:17 PM The excitement is building for tonights episode. Locke-centric eps are always the best and its written by lindelof and cuse so its bound to be a belter. The previews have maybe messed it up a bit and i'm a sucker for spoilers so i ruin it for myself but the writing, acting and the soundtrack are always more than good enough to cover up for the lack of surprise for me. Speaking of the soundtrack, Micheal Giacchino is a genius. 'Locke'd out again' is possibly one of the best pieces of music ever written for television. I can just visualise Locke banging on the hatch whenever i listen to it. Cheers for the morally dubious link to that Andy!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 29, 2006, 09:31:45 PM You're welcome ;)
Anyway, new title. So exciting. Just realised that the b****** time difference means that I mightn't get ahold of this episode before I leave for work tomorrow though; American clocks don't go forward until Sunday. Cunts. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: chip2388 on March 30, 2006, 08:08:09 AM PM here for episode again please :)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on March 30, 2006, 12:01:33 PM go to:
[REMOVED - DON'T LINK TO TORRENT SITES] and search for Lost, download episode 17 ad make sure the name has EZTV on it Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on March 30, 2006, 02:46:44 PM Lockdown was great, the best since episode one of this series in my opinion, and at a par with the plane on cliff/hatch light comes on episode in the first series.
Only one problem with this episode - no Mr. Eko. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: captainhaircut on March 30, 2006, 04:14:38 PM Brilliant, superb, sensational- all sorts of superlatives thrown at this episode. Love the locke-centric episodes-always my favourites. The others must have some sort of control over the hatch IMO. Thats why the lockdown occured, to give henry a chance to escape, and thats how he was able to lift the blast doors. I'm pretty sick of the Jack love in's. Every other character has some sort of dark side, while Jacks worst quality according to the writers is that he wants to help too much or that he can never let go of something. Bit of mystery in this episode which I love. The food drop was interesting while the ultra violet light thingy was also interesting. I'm sure someone will work that one out soon enough. Really excited for the rest of the series now. I just wonder why, if Henry is an other, he didn't leg it when he had the chance. Maybe he fancied his chances of intergrating into the group and doing 'an ethan'. Anyway, 5 stars for me. Up there with the very best lost episodes. Not quite up there with deux ex machina or Man of Science, Man of Faith but it feels harsh to give it a 4.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Adam^ on March 30, 2006, 05:26:18 PM Im thinking the lockdown may have something to do with the food drop ? Maybe im not sure couldlink in. Anyone got a picture of what was written on the door when the UV light came on?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: captainhaircut on March 30, 2006, 05:46:09 PM heres a link to the picture from on the wall. Appears to be a map showing the positions of the hatches. Also, the more i think about it, the food drop musy have had something to do with the lockedown. Seems strange that the two should happen exclusively. After all, nothing is a coincidence on lost.
https://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lost2cb0zj.jpg p.s. I have absolutely no clue what is in the middle. And on further thinking, maybe the lockdown occurs because the food is not dropped in at all. maybe the food is placed there and the occupants of the hatch are locked in so they do not find this out. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Geordiesned on March 30, 2006, 07:07:39 PM Downloading now. 1 hour to go. :D
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: indi on March 30, 2006, 08:14:28 PM Very interesting episode.
I particularly liked the way that it was exactly like I described it to be. :D The food is an interesting one, the thing it brought to my mind was, how is whoever is in the hatch supposed to get it inside? If you remember the hatch itself had "Quarentine" written on the inside and Dessy boy asked if the world was still there, when they came in. This says to me that he didn't go outside and so could never have received a food delivery. Do you think it's actually meant for the person in the hatch at all? Also, if the lockdown was to prevent the hatchite from seeing the Tesco delivery man, then why close the internal blast-doors? WHy not just the external ones? Especially, as it might prevent the numbers from being entered if the hatchite was taking a s***, or something, when the doors dropped. Overall a good episode, answered a few questions and posed some new ones. Exactly the kind of episode I like. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 30, 2006, 08:41:29 PM heres a link to the picture from on the wall. Appears to be a map showing the positions of the hatches. Also, the more i think about it, the food drop musy have had something to do with the lockedown. Seems strange that the two should happen exclusively. After all, nothing is a coincidence on lost. https://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lost2cb0zj.jpg p.s. I have absolutely no clue what is in the middle. And on further thinking, maybe the lockdown occurs because the food is not dropped in at all. maybe the food is placed there and the occupants of the hatch are locked in so they do not find this out. The question mark in the center of that image is obviously related to the bizarre title of episode 2.21; I wonder if that's the others' territory? Anyway, outstanding episode overall. The flashbacks were a bit weak I thought, but I can forgive lindelof and cuse for wanting to put all the main focus on the island stuff; probably a good decision actually. 5 stars from me. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: NufcSteven90 on March 30, 2006, 08:42:07 PM The other Admin on my forum has made some notes in great detail about the map on the Blast Doors:
(https://www.thehatchonline.com/images/dharmathumb.jpg) The above image is just a thumbnail if you want the whole image check this topic out: Blast Door Map (https://www.forums.thehatchonline.com/index.php?showtopic=425) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Geordiesned on March 30, 2006, 09:30:13 PM Superb episode! 5 stars from me. I feel sure that the lockdown was to do with the food drop. Furthermore, since Des made references to never having seen the outside world, I think the 'others' may have been the ones who delivered the food to his pantry whilst he was shut inside. The food parcels were all marked with the Dharma logo after all.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on March 30, 2006, 10:12:10 PM 5 stars for me, the food proves that the island is known to the world and that the others are working there for the Darma, who deliver food to them. I also still think all the hatches are linked through an under ground system. Also was the lock down done by the others to force the timer to hit zero? i mean i lifted after the countdown. Also why did Henry enter the code if he is an other?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 30, 2006, 10:13:11 PM We don't know for sure that Henry DID enter the code...
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on March 30, 2006, 10:26:57 PM the area on the map at C3 indicates underground tunnels.
Im telling you they are linked. Dharma abandoned the hatch in 86 according to the map and mapbe they filled in the tunnels, ie the concrete walls in the basement. Maybe they put Desmond down there with a bullshit story on the end of the world to keep him out of their roads. And maybe there is a holding hatch with the kidnapped people in it. I think they are putting people in these places to keep them off the island. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on March 30, 2006, 10:34:37 PM More stuff from me:
Im near sure i heard the speaker say "Terminal 8", is this a connection with the ariport? Also does anyone think the lockdown and the drop are connected? Maybe desmond was locked in that room while the others restocked the place. Maybe the numbers have something to do with the drop, a possible signal to show there is still activity on the island and to continue to drop food Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on March 30, 2006, 10:36:25 PM We don't know for sure that Henry DID enter the code... sorry for another post btw theres just so much to get through, but do you think the numbers hit zero and activated the ultra violet lights? then after the map was shown the numbers restarted at 108? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 30, 2006, 10:41:56 PM We don't know for sure that Henry DID enter the code... sorry for another post btw theres just so much to get through, but do you think the numbers hit zero and activated the ultra violet lights? then after the map was shown the numbers restarted at 108? It's possible... Though I must admit, I doubt it. That map thing is unbelievable by the way; so much to think about and analyze - this season's equivelent of the numbers. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on March 30, 2006, 10:51:37 PM Andy i know there are alot of breaks and it seems like a while, but the numbers are season 2 aswell tongue3.gif
anyway took this photo of the id card, seems normal to me but have a look anyway may creep up again. (https://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9859/idjpg4il.jpg) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 30, 2006, 10:55:47 PM Andy i know there are alot of breaks and it seems like a while, but the numbers are season 2 aswell tongue3.gif No, the numbers were introduced this time last year; episode 1.18. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on March 30, 2006, 11:02:49 PM Andy i know there are alot of breaks and it seems like a while, but the numbers are season 2 aswell tongue3.gif No, the numbers were introduced this time last year; episode 1.18. refresh my memory please? i thought the whole mystery surrounding them began with the count down at episode 1 of season 2. Dunno. Anyway i notice one of the hatches on the map is clearly scribbled out, wonder what the significance is. Also all the tunnel entrances are crossed out. More on the speaker, it definately says "Please proceed to...." maybe this is to tell who ever is in the hatch to go somewhere, shame it was scrambled. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: NewcastleRocker on March 30, 2006, 11:05:38 PM Great episode, brilliant.
I believe like the rest of you's that the lockdown was due to the replenishment of the stock. I really though Henry was telling the truth aswell, had me done! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 30, 2006, 11:17:07 PM Quote refresh my memory please? i thought the whole mystery surrounding them began with the count down at episode 1 of season 2. Dunno. Hurley won the lottery with the numbers in season one (in the episode named "numbers", amazingly) , and had a load of bad luck because of it. The numbers were then on the hatch in "Exodus", and they could also be seen all over the place in a lot of the other episodes. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: indi on March 30, 2006, 11:27:12 PM How about this for a theory:
The countdown and the food drop are linked, when the numbers are allowed to reach zero that sends a signal requesting a drop. Due to the magnetism of the island, it would be dangerous to fly in to do a drop, so..... nah this is a crappy theory, forget it, it's bollocks. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 31, 2006, 01:41:59 AM Brilliant that. Was practically getting up off my seat at points. :lol:
I liked the way it got straight back to where it left the last episode. Not sure if it's done that before, bar the end of series one and beginning series 2. Makes you wonder why 'Gale' stuck around, and he clearly, in my opinion, didn't put the numbers in. Too much to take in. I think I'll watch again. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 31, 2006, 02:35:53 AM Here, I've just started wondering this. Desmond said he was in the hatch with someone else, and he died. If they never went out, then where is his body, or at least bones? Sorry if this has been asked/answered.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 31, 2006, 09:04:11 AM Candian preview for episode 18 - "Dave": https://www.thetailsection.com/lost.Dave.Canadian.avi
WARNING! This one contains MORE spoilers than the American one. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on March 31, 2006, 10:45:13 AM Just did some adding up, the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42 add up to 108.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: jasonx_102 on March 31, 2006, 12:48:17 PM Just did some adding up, the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42 add up to 108. On the ball Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 31, 2006, 01:51:24 PM Okay, let's have a quick look at the map:
(https://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg) Several places read "possible cerberus activity" - I wonder if this is the real name for the smoke cloud? If it is, it would suggest that the cloud was perhaps originally created by dharma, but has since turned renegade (due to faulty AI maybe?). Also, I have a feeling that the CV's on the map could stand for "Cerberus Vent"; the locations where it's able to make the ground explode/suck people in and what have you... Anyway, I have to go back to work now. More later maybe.... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: ewerk on March 31, 2006, 02:06:09 PM I have absolutely no idea where to start analysing that map, there's so much on it. Though I did notice that it confirms that the lockdown/restocking procedure is linked.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: indi on March 31, 2006, 05:48:14 PM Cerberus was the three headed dog that guarded the gates of Hades (the underworld), wasn't he?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: indi on March 31, 2006, 05:53:25 PM Yes he was:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus "He guarded the gate to Hades (the Greek underworld) and ensured that the dead could not leave and the living could not enter." Interesting. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on March 31, 2006, 05:57:29 PM The question I've been asking myself is, who made the map?
EDIT: God knows why I asked that. No one EVER answers my questions! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Adam^ on March 31, 2006, 06:14:05 PM WHat incident are they going on about ?
I hope to god locke had remembered the map or finds away of gettting the doors downagain Also Which of the other facilties do you think is the one in which claire was taken by the others ? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on March 31, 2006, 06:38:55 PM How can anyone only give that episode 3 stars? :shock:
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: captainhaircut on March 31, 2006, 06:43:22 PM How can anyone only give that episode 3 stars? :shock: Must be in the small minority of people who are Locke haters. I would have felt bad giving the episode 4 stars never mind 3. Next weeks trailer is a bit strange yet intruiging. Hurley episodes usually always have a bit of mystery to them. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: indi on March 31, 2006, 07:39:07 PM WHat incident are they going on about ? I hope to god locke had remembered the map or finds away of gettting the doors downagain Also Which of the other facilties do you think is the one in which claire was taken by the others ? I reckon it's a pretty safe bet she was taken to the "Staff", because that's the symbol they use in the US for a hospital isn't it? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on April 01, 2006, 01:43:54 PM WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on April 01, 2006, 01:56:41 PM Sayids little speach at the end was brilliant. HE ROCKS!!! ;)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 02:15:04 PM Some more spoilery stuff from Javi:
Quote By the end of the season you will know who drew it [the map], why, and what happened to him [...] Ana-Lucia will have a cross with one of the survivors, and it will surprise the hell out of you [...] Episode 2.22 is called "Three Minutes", and the title doesn't refer to a countdown, but the duration of an event. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: 80 on April 01, 2006, 02:28:43 PM Will have a cross... an argument? I don't understand.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: indi on April 01, 2006, 03:10:10 PM Some more spoilery stuff from Javi: Quote By the end of the season you will know who drew it [the map], why, and what happened to him [...] Ana-Lucia will have a cross with one of the survivors, and it will surprise the hell out of you [...] Episode 2.22 is called "Three Minutes", and the title doesn't refer to a countdown, but the duration of an event. What someone's going to have sex!?! ;) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 06:27:44 PM Will have a cross... an argument? I don't understand. I think he means they'll cross paths in a flashback... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: 80 on April 01, 2006, 06:31:39 PM Will have a cross... an argument? I don't understand. I think he means they'll cross paths in a flashback... Ah. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 07:46:46 PM More stuff from Damon Lindelof:
"We feel that this batch of currently running episodes, through 19, is kind of the calm before the storm. And then episodes 20 through 24, those final five hours of the show, we're all overwhelmingly excited about because there is a lot of incident and action and mystery revelation coming down the pike. We're really, really jazzed about that final pot of episodes." Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 01, 2006, 07:49:41 PM Is there a rough date of when series 3 will be broadcast? Have they even started production on that yet?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 07:52:20 PM Is there a rough date of when series 3 will be broadcast? Have they even started production on that yet? September. They won't have started production on it yet; they only just started filming episode 2.20 the other day... I'd image the first block of season 3 episodes will begin production in early July. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on April 01, 2006, 08:00:50 PM when is the series on in england (2)?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 08:02:45 PM I was told a while back that it would be the same week as the big brother launch (probably May 26th) by a guy I know who works for Endemol UK.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on April 01, 2006, 08:05:20 PM ty
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 08:15:12 PM More stuff from Damon Lindelof: "We feel that this batch of currently running episodes, through 19, is kind of the calm before the storm. And then episodes 20 through 24, those final five hours of the show, we're all overwhelmingly excited about because there is a lot of incident and action and mystery revelation coming down the pike. We're really, really jazzed about that final pot of episodes." By the way, those comments were made BEFORE lockdown. So if that one was part of the "calm", what the hell is the storm going to be like? :shock: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 08:58:44 PM https://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Lost_%282004_television_series%29
Some of that is complete genius :lol: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on April 01, 2006, 09:06:20 PM “ If Jack Bauer was there he would shoot Sayid and save America. ”
bluelaugh.gif bluelaugh.gif bluelaugh.gif bluelaugh.gif bluelaugh.gif bluelaugh.gif bluelaugh.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on April 01, 2006, 09:27:47 PM Lockedown wasn't really a storm though, just one that gave us a lot of information. no one died, or fought did they.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 09:30:16 PM Lockedown wasn't really a storm though, just one that gave us a lot of information. no one died, or fought did they. Yeah, but it was still pretty hectic compared to most episodes. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on April 01, 2006, 09:34:54 PM Lockedown wasn't really a storm though, just one that gave us a lot of information. no one died, or fought did they. Yeah, but it was still pretty hectic compared to most episodes. but it didn't contain eko. cant wait till eko, sayid and sawyer are unleashed on this all powerful danger figure. he'll be crying like a baby in 5 hits of eko's stick, 4 bullets from sawyer, and 3 fingernails out from sayid. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 10:45:29 PM But wait... There's more (from lindelof):
Quote Turns out that supercool black-light reveal is a major plot point that carries on through the rest of the season. "Oh yeah, big time," Damon said. "I mean, it plays huge in the finale, and even in episodes 21 through 24. Twenty-one is an episode that is very much on the sort of fundamental axis of that map, and it's a Locke and Eko story, which is going to be awesome. Carlton and I wrote it. That episode is just called '?' because that is the symbol Locke remembers from the map." Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: captainhaircut on April 01, 2006, 11:05:45 PM 'A locke and eko story'?? how does that work? eko flashback maybe, with locke and him exploring the island. i very much doubt they'll do a joint centric episode. Cheers for these titbits Andy, you're working hard today thats for sure.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 01, 2006, 11:12:10 PM Dunno what he means; from what I've heard, 2.21 is going to be Jack-centric (FFS :(). It could be Eko I suppose, but my bottles of tomato ketchup are rarely wrong when it comes to this kind of stuff.
Hopefully they are wrong this time though, another Eko flashback would be too cool for school :cool: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Apisith on April 02, 2006, 04:46:36 AM Anyone notice it was Sayid's ex-ex-girlfriend who was Locke's client when he was some maintenance guy?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 04:48:40 AM So it was! Good spot. Can't say I noticed, taking your word for it though. I'll hunt you down if you're wrong though... ;)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Apisith on April 02, 2006, 05:53:18 AM bluecool.gif It was her for sure because Locke said something alonge the lines of 'I'm sure you will have a happy life here with your husband' and she responded 'if only I had a husband' or something like that blueyes.gif
Can't believe the characters in this show have so many things intertwined with each other. Its unbelievable. Anyone else think Locke's dad might be the 'real' Sawyer? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 05:56:58 AM I said that, I said that! Me, I do. Ignored, along with everything else I say in this thread. :lol:
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Apisith on April 02, 2006, 06:00:27 AM tongue3.gif :banana:
The real mystery here is why are you up so early?? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 06:01:52 AM bluelaugh.gif
Bed after the F1 :D But yeah, I'm certain he's the real Sawyer. I'm not saying Locke knows, but him confronting Sawyer about his name early in series 1, I think it was, seems too convenient for it not to be. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Apisith on April 02, 2006, 06:16:27 AM I switched the TV off after Schumacher crashed. He's s*** now. What a sad end to his career (surely this must be his last year).
And it would be quite a twist if the real Sawyer was Locke's dad. The question that I think about most is how will this series end??????? Do they all get off the island and live happily ever after or what? Does Sayid get to meet his true love again? Will Hurley get to go back and spend his millions? Aaaah this is killing me. And the fact that we still have no idea who the f*** the previously-known-as Henry Gale is?? My gaad this series rocks. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 06:19:29 AM This series?!? I can't see them getting off the island mate, more like they'll built up to something really big, more or less reveal something vital, but leave you guessing until the third. I think we're a long way off leaving the island. Long, long way off.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Apisith on April 02, 2006, 06:29:02 AM Yea I would agree with them making us wait. But stilllll, I can't wait!! Before the past 2 episodes I thought they should try to finish the whole series after the end of this season because there didn't seem to be too much that they can expand on but staring at that map now, they could go 4 or 5 seasons easily. Seeing as there are 6 hatches (that I've identified on the map), there's a lot more exploration left to be done by our Losties. And looking closer at the map I think I see some important elements that could be linked. Wow the map is amazing. Also some climate control and gene therapy is mentioned to!! Wow!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 02, 2006, 04:34:33 PM Yeah, the map blows the entire show wide open really.
There's enough material there to COMFORTABLY see them through to season five, at the very least, and it should also finally silence the critics who claim the writer's don't know where the show's headed... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BooBoo on April 02, 2006, 04:55:41 PM So if "Henry isnt really Henry, then is the balloon above the grave just another supply drop??
Oh and i agree that "Henry" is a great character/actor. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: NE6 on April 02, 2006, 05:07:10 PM Was a bit dissapointed with Episode 17, expected a lot more from it considering where 16 left you. Hope 18 makes up for it though.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 05:14:40 PM I think someone crashed in the balloon, but for whatever reason was buried. "Henry" has tried to pass the grave off as his wife in order to give his story credance. Maybe the others killed him, then buried him, who knows. Maybe they befriended him, again who knows. I could have got that all wrong, but that was the impression I got. That the balloon was real, someone did crash in it, just not "Henry", but the real Henry. Who was a bald blakc guy.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 02, 2006, 05:57:14 PM Here's a theory that I've just concocted in my BRAIN...
Fake Henry doesn't work with dharma, he works with some other group who are working AGAINST dharma... He was told to infiltrate them; to see what they were researching... His first job was to gain access to the swan hatch (perhaps he is "kelvin") and act as a DHARMA employee. He then had to use the information he could gather from there to plot an infiltration of the other DHARMA stations, and - eventually - the huge "?" area in the middle of the island.. As he gathered information from around the island, he pieced it all together into... A MAP. Which he drew in an invisible substance (bleach?) on the blast doors. The map was only visible when the ultra-violet back-light was activated; and only Henry knew how to activate this. Henry then set off to the other stations on the island, trying to figure out a way to gain access to the unknown territory in the center of the map. After failing to find a way, he eventually figured that the best solution would be to assume an innocent person's identity, and get himself CAPTURED, then infiltrate from within. So, he got himself captured, but by Danielle, rather than someone from DHARMA. Unfortunately for him; she gave him STRAIGHT to our group, rather than DHARMA, as he'd being hoping. This is where he got confused; he thought our group WERE dharma (when danielle was saying "he's one of them", he thought she was refering to his actual employers), and so proceeded to give them the Henry Gale story Henry quickly realised that our group weren't dharma, but by then it was too late. He knew he couldn't tell them he'd being lying about the balloon thing, because of the inevitable consequences that would follow... When Locke was locked in the living area, and Henry was sent to push the button, he decided it was the perfect time to give our group the information he had about DHARMA - he knew he couldn't just tell them, because they'd think he was working WITH dharma. So he showed Locke the map, by flicking on the ultra-violet lights. Unfortunately he had to switch them off quickly, because he still had to enter the code, and push the button before Locke became suspicious. So he entered the code, and then raised the blast doors so that Locke could get out. That is all I have up to now... Thoughts? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 06:02:25 PM I like it... bit far fetched though. Perhaps. tongue3.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Claypool on April 02, 2006, 06:05:07 PM Just started watching Lost... Just finished watching episode 3 now.... Havn't really got a theory yet like... but it seems pretty good.. still can't see what the hypes about yet though, but im sure i will... Does an explanation of the polar bear happen at any point?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:06:46 PM Just started watching Lost... Just finished watching episode 3 now.... Havn't really got a theory yet like... but it seems pretty good.. still can't see what the hypes about yet though, but im sure i will... Does an explanation of the polar bear happen at any point? Season 1 or 2? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 02, 2006, 06:08:37 PM I like it... bit far fetched though. Perhaps. tongue3.gif Maybe, but I'm convinced henry drew the map... It's too convenient that it appeared as soon as he was allowed to wander around the hatch, and it's also too convenient that the blast doors raised when he was out there too. The fact that he so quickly memorised the numbers as well, and that he knew that he could allow the clock to go beyond zero and into the symbols stage, would all suggest to me that he's been in the hatch before... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:09:10 PM Here's a theory that I've just concocted in my BRAIN... Fake Henry doesn't work with dharma, he works with some other group who are working AGAINST dharma... He was told to infiltrate them; to see what they were researching... His first job was to gain access to the swan hatch (perhaps he is "kelvin") and act as a DHARMA employee. He then had to use the information he could gather from there to plot an infiltration of the other DHARMA stations, and - eventually - the huge "?" area in the middle of the island.. As he gathered information from around the island, he pieced it all together into... A MAP. Which he drew in an invisible substance (bleach?) on the blast doors. The map was only visible when the ultra-violet back-light was activated; and only Henry knew how to activate this. Henry then set off to the other stations on the island, trying to figure out a way to gain access to the unknown territory in the center of the map. After failing to find a way, he eventually figured that the best solution would be to assume an innocent person's identity, and get himself CAPTURED, then infiltrate from within. So, he got himself captured, but by Danielle, rather than someone from DHARMA. Unfortunately for him; she gave him STRAIGHT to our group, rather than DHARMA, as he'd being hoping. This is where he got confused; he thought our group WERE dharma (when danielle was saying "he's one of them", he thought she was refering to his actual employers), and so proceeded to give them the Henry Gale story Henry quickly realised that our group weren't dharma, but by then it was too late. He knew he couldn't tell them he'd being lying about the balloon thing, because of the inevitable consequences that would follow... When Locke was locked in the living area, and Henry was sent to push the button, he decided it was the perfect time to give our group the information he had about DHARMA - he knew he couldn't just tell them, because they'd think he was working WITH dharma. So he showed Locke the map, by flicking on the ultra-violet lights. Unfortunately he had to switch them off quickly, because he still had to enter the code, and push the button before Locke became suspicious. So he entered the code, and then raised the blast doors so that Locke could get out. That is all I have up to now... Thoughts? You have a brain? I thought it was just a pancake on top of your head. Anyhow, like the theory, it would be good if right. "Henry Gale" would need a flashback episode. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BooBoo on April 02, 2006, 06:10:00 PM My advice if you've just started watching Lost season 1 is to keep well away from all spoilers. The show has some massive twists and reading too much of threads like this will spoil things for you.
Re Andys theory- seems plausible to me. I think its very significant that we didnt see what Henry was up to when he went to enter the numbers. We assume he did as Locke asked, but i think its far more likely it was him that switched on the UV lights. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:10:37 PM This is the 1000th post in a GREAT thread.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 02, 2006, 06:14:21 PM I like it... bit far fetched though. Perhaps. tongue3.gif Maybe, but I'm convinced henry drew the map... It's too convenient that it appeared as soon as he was allowed to wander around the hatch, and it's also too convenient that the blast doors raised when he was out there too. The fact that he so quickly memorised the numbers as well, and that he knew that he could allow the clock to go beyond zero and into the symbols stage, would all suggest to me that he's been in the hatch before... ... And whilst all that could equally be explained by him working WITH dharma... If he was, you have to wonder why he didn't just make a run for it... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 06:15:57 PM I like it... bit far fetched though. Perhaps. tongue3.gif Maybe, but I'm convinced henry drew the map... It's too convenient that it appeared as soon as he was allowed to wander around the hatch, and it's also too convenient that the blast doors raised when he was out there too. The fact that he so quickly memorised the numbers as well, and that he knew that he could allow the clock to go beyond zero and into the symbols stage, would all suggest to me that he's been in the hatch before... I agree he has something to do with the map, meant more about the kidnapping stuff. I certainly don't think he entered the numbers though. So what he did, is a mystery. What about the tannoy announcements though? EDIT: Aye, I do wonder why he didn't run. But given the clip of the next episode, I think he's clearly working for someone, and I can only assume Dharma. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Toon's Taylor on April 02, 2006, 06:17:23 PM (I know it might have been said, but there's 51 pages and im not gonna take the chance)
When is the new series starting on CH4 in England? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:18:19 PM (I know it might have been said, but there's 51 pages and im not gonna take the chance) When is the new series starting on CH4 in England? In a few weeks. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 06:18:53 PM Sometime in May. No official date yet though, I don't think.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 02, 2006, 06:19:57 PM The tanoy announcements were probably notifications of the incoming food-drop. No doubt, had the speakers being working correctly, they would have instructed the hatch workers to assume correct possitions before the end of the contdown.
In other words, make sure someone's next to the computer (to avoid what almost happened to Locke) and make sure someone's on-hand to collect the supplies. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:20:35 PM Sometime in May. No official date yet though, I don't think. I think the Radio Times said end of April. On Monday they are showing an episode a day on E4 I think leading up to Series 2. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 06:21:57 PM Oh...
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:23:54 PM Just read Radio Times for confirmation:
Quote from: Radio Times in preparation for the second series which starts later this month Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 06:24:46 PM I think you're making this up. ;)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:27:03 PM I think you're making this up. ;) Buy a Radio Times and see for yourself. You'll find it under Monday's Choices. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 02, 2006, 06:28:38 PM I think you're making this up. ;) Buy a Radio Times and see for yourself. You'll find it under Monday's Choices. I think Taylor27 works for the Radio Times, and this is his clever ploy to force bluf to buy a copy.... Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 02, 2006, 06:32:08 PM I was told it would be late May a while back btw, but april would be great.
The longer channel 4 leave it, the more viewers they'll lose to downloads... That would have a knock-on effect on the show in the long-run. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 06:33:32 PM I think you're making this up. ;) Buy a Radio Times and see for yourself. You'll find it under Monday's Choices. Just joking. :( I'm cautious after my April Fools disaster. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:34:00 PM I think you're making this up. ;) Buy a Radio Times and see for yourself. You'll find it under Monday's Choices. I think Taylor27 works for the Radio Times, and this is his clever ploy to force bluf to buy a copy.... If I had a scanner, I would scan the page right now and put it up right now. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Claypool on April 02, 2006, 06:34:08 PM Season 1 Taylor... Im canny far behind like... Don't work at the minute though so ill probably catch up in a week or something.. does it pick up a bit after the 3rd episode like?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 02, 2006, 06:37:41 PM The next episode will draw you in, or your money back.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 02, 2006, 06:40:47 PM Season 1 Taylor... Im canny far behind like... Don't work at the minute though so ill probably catch up in a week or something.. does it pick up a bit after the 3rd episode like? If you are Season 1 dont come on this thread again for your own sake. Unless you have 10mb broadband, buy the DVD, or Freeview, and watch it on E4 from Monday. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Claypool on April 02, 2006, 06:43:25 PM Lol.. aye i've got season 1... the rest are on there way so to speak.. but cheers for the advice.. i'll be back soon :P
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Jonny2J on April 02, 2006, 07:09:55 PM I think you're making this up. ;) Buy a Radio Times and see for yourself. You'll find it under Monday's Choices. Just joking. :( I'm cautious after my April Fools disaster. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 02, 2006, 07:34:40 PM Don't mock me! How dare you.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 03, 2006, 12:25:26 AM One thing just came to my mind about the previous episode... Why, if there was a vent shaft in the pantry, did Locke try to squeeze underneath a falling blast door? :D
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 03, 2006, 12:27:16 AM Maybe he's too fat? But good question.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on April 03, 2006, 12:43:31 AM remember the symbols when the timer counted down, are they the same symbols on the map representing each hatch?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Ally on April 03, 2006, 01:29:15 PM Quality episode that like.
The ending was great, I always felt Henry was one of the others but i'd have never guessed that he was never actually Henry in the first place, absolutely mint cliffhanger. The food theories certainly add up, but that map man, what a mental island! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on April 03, 2006, 11:10:33 PM you guys have to look at this like
https://www.nufc-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6934&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 the guy thinks he knows the ending, he is adimant about it. I cant seem to convince him its bullshit bluelaugh.gif what makes him special Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 03, 2006, 11:20:35 PM Sod that. Did you really say?
Quote DECKY 2006 says: id say Pete Burns would give some blowjob DECKY 2006 says: those lips of his That's the pressing question. blueyes.gif bluelaugh.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: indi on April 03, 2006, 11:24:22 PM you guys have to look at this like https://www.nufc-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6934&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 the guy thinks he knows the ending, he is adimant about it. I cant seem to convince him its bullshit bluelaugh.gif what makes him special Ask him what happens, it's going to be bullshit, so it aint going to spoil anything, even if it is true you'll have forgotten in 3-4 years time when they get round to showing it, but you don't even have to worry about that because it is bollocks. Go on ask him and post what he says here, or PM it to me if you don't want to post it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 03, 2006, 11:28:32 PM Post it! Like you say, it's going to be utter balls.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on April 03, 2006, 11:45:41 PM you guys have to look at this like https://www.nufc-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6934&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 the guy thinks he knows the ending, he is adimant about it. I cant seem to convince him its bullshit bluelaugh.gif what makes him special Ask him what happens, it's going to be bullshit, so it aint going to spoil anything, even if it is true you'll have forgotten in 3-4 years time when they get round to showing it, but you don't even have to worry about that because it is bollocks. Go on ask him and post what he says here, or PM it to me if you don't want to post it. "i've seen the final episode" i doubt he has, have they even finished filming this series yet? do they, the writers even know how it ends? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: captainhaircut on April 04, 2006, 12:29:38 AM This weeks podcast was a bit rubbish. Clarified that the drop and the lockdown were linked and that was about it. Sounded like they recorded it in a cupboard, and they claimed to have been working on the finale so sounded like they couldn't be arsed at all. Poor show from Lindelof and Cuse. They're usually good value. Would imagine that they'll be back on form next week.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on April 04, 2006, 12:37:13 AM Sod that. Did you really say? Quote DECKY 2006 says: id say Pete Burns would give some blowjob DECKY 2006 says: those lips of his That's the pressing question. blueyes.gif bluelaugh.gif dont you agree bluelaugh.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 04, 2006, 06:28:03 AM This weeks podcast was a bit rubbish. Clarified that the drop and the lockdown were linked and that was about it. Sounded like they recorded it in a cupboard, and they claimed to have been working on the finale so sounded like they couldn't be arsed at all. Poor show from Lindelof and Cuse. They're usually good value. Would imagine that they'll be back on form next week. To be fair, they're writing scripts for 3 seperate episodes at the moment. It's understandable that they couldn't be arsed. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 04, 2006, 06:31:45 AM you guys have to look at this like https://www.nufc-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6934&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 the guy thinks he knows the ending, he is adimant about it. I cant seem to convince him its bullshit bluelaugh.gif what makes him special Yeah, he's talking s***. ABC wouldn't allow them to write a full script for the series finale yet, let alone film it. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Decky on April 04, 2006, 02:48:27 PM you guys have to look at this like https://www.nufc-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6934&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 the guy thinks he knows the ending, he is adimant about it. I cant seem to convince him its bullshit bluelaugh.gif what makes him special Yeah, he's talking s***. ABC wouldn't allow them to write a full script for the series finale yet, let alone film it. last year too, he also claims they are filiming season 3 Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Claypool on April 04, 2006, 05:35:24 PM Just finished watched season 1, And have just finished downloading season 2.... Can't believe how friggin addictive it is like... and i can't believe they killed off boone lol should of at least killed that fat lazy coont "dude" Harley lol... ahwell.. only another 18 shows left i catch up :)
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 04, 2006, 10:25:27 PM Some promising comments from Damon about the breaks in between episodes next season, in an interview with E!Online's kristen:
Quote "There's 36 weeks in a TV season and we have 24 episodes," D.L. tells me. "But we're lobbying ABC for when the show is on, it's on, and when it's off, it's off. So, we want to air it in three acts next year. You know, blocks of seven, seven and eight. But in order to do that, we have to roll the show out in October instead of September, and hopefully that will work out." Sounds pretty good, if you ask me. But as I said, in the meantime, let's remember these guys are busting their buttocks to give you one of the trickiest shows to put together on television. Honestly! 7 episodes then a break would be a hell of a lot better in my opinion; even though both of the mid-season breaks would probably be about 5 or 6 weeks, it would probably be more bearable knowing that there was a long string of episodes to follow. Hopefully ABC see sense and accept. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 04, 2006, 10:47:04 PM Voting now OVER AND OUT on the polar bear.
"Lockdown" scored a PIN-POINT average score of EXACTLY 4.5, which rounds up to a smug 5 stars out of 5. Well done to John Locke and co. on this astounding achievement. This will doubtlessly take over the various emmys' and globes' postions on their fireplaces. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 05, 2006, 10:04:08 AM Before the Dave episode is watched (is it available yet, I cant find it?) may I say that I predict that Dave is Henry Gale's real name.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 05, 2006, 10:27:30 AM Airs tonight, Taylor27.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: James on April 05, 2006, 10:50:12 AM ah Ok, got mixed up a bit, thought it was today for some reason.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 17: Lockdown* Post by: Andy on April 05, 2006, 07:10:41 PM DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE :banana:
Looking forward to tonight's... From what I hear, it's a really, REALLY strong episode. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: jasonx_102 on April 05, 2006, 07:17:04 PM Im guessing Dave is the bald bloke who Hurley saw in the preview. Dave used to be in the Crazy house with him.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: indi on April 05, 2006, 07:18:40 PM (https://www.ocdestroyed.com/files/anigiff/papa_lazarou.gif)
Hello Daaaave!! Sorry, but it had to be done. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: BooBoo on April 05, 2006, 08:46:10 PM I think Dave will be unlikely to be the number muttering guy- too obvious. What is more likely is that Dave is Hurleys imaginary friend, which would explain why he was in a psychiatric hospital. Other net rumours suggest Libby is not actually a psychiatrist but rather another patient who Hurley once met- hence why Hurley vaguely remembers her.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 05, 2006, 09:15:03 PM I think Dave will be unlikely to be the number muttering guy- too obvious. The number muttering guy was called Lenny. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Ally on April 05, 2006, 10:40:30 PM I assumed Dave would be the real name of 'Henry'.
Really looking forward to this one. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: captainhaircut on April 06, 2006, 04:34:02 AM 20 mins for the episode. Loving this. Be back in 45 mins with my reaction.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: captainhaircut on April 06, 2006, 05:27:18 AM Strange yet wonderful episode. If i could vote, i'd say a 4. Some great stuff with 'henry', and some interesting stuff with hurley. i'm too knackered to elaborate more. Will watch it again tomorrow and maybe come back with my thoughts later. The hurley/libby stuff is a bit weird mind you. Think they're might be some interesting developments in the future regarding those two. S.O.S.' next week looks very good, although at this point in the series every episode looks good.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Southern Geordie on April 06, 2006, 02:36:10 PM Pm would be appreciated as usual :P
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 06, 2006, 03:23:02 PM Good character development episode that one; definitely the second best flashbacks this season (behind Eko). Agree with haircut about the Libby/Hurley thing being a bit weird though; I thought their relationship felt a bit too sudden, and forced.
Nonetheless, 4 stars from me, because it basically did pretty much everything it tried to do, and gave a few more clues about Henry and "the others" on top of that. Shame I already knew the invisible friend/Libby stuff, otherwise it would have had some great reveals too. Overall: good stuff. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: alpal78 on April 06, 2006, 03:33:35 PM I'm a bit clueless when it comes to downloading entires episodes coz I think u have to use torrent and P2P which I'm not too keen of. Anybody willing to send me a CD with episode 16-18 for a few quid? I could buy it for 5 quid off Ebay but might as well pay to members of this forum....I'm so nice tongue3.gif
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: chip2388 on April 06, 2006, 05:01:19 PM Pm would be appreciated as usual :P Me 2 as well please Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: indi on April 06, 2006, 07:10:21 PM Just how many times do those hollywood writers think they can go into my brain and steal my thoughts, bloody hell!!
That whole Hurley thing was my idea and I've got the evidence to prove it!! ;) A very good episode in my book, enjoyed that a lot. I think we may well return to this later on and who knows, the last episode might end with Hurley jumping off that cliff!?! Do you think they'll let the timer count down to see what happens soon? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: chip2388 on April 06, 2006, 07:15:10 PM Still waiting for a PM in case people think i've already got it... dying to watch it!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 06, 2006, 07:18:47 PM Do you think they'll let the timer count down to see what happens soon? I don't think they'll let it count down, but I think that's the reason Locke's been put on crutches - so he can't reach it on time in the finale. That's what Stephen Williams alluded to a few weeks back, anyway. Preview for next week looks VERY interesting. Fact that it's written by Steve Maeda and Leonard Dick suggests that it should be another good one. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: indi on April 06, 2006, 07:22:15 PM Still waiting for a PM in case people think i've already got it... dying to watch it! How come you don't know where to look? How many episodes have you downloaded now and you still don't know where to go!?! Come on chip mate, show some initiative!! PM'd you by the way. ;) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: alpal78 on April 06, 2006, 07:29:50 PM I'm a bit clueless when it comes to downloading entires episodes coz I think u have to use torrent and P2P which I'm not too keen of. Anybody willing to send me a CD with episode 16-18 for a few quid? I could buy it for 5 quid off Ebay but might as well pay to members of this forum....I'm so nice tongue3.gif Out of all the wonderful people on this forum....no takers? bluesigh.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: indi on April 06, 2006, 07:32:12 PM I'm a bit clueless when it comes to downloading entires episodes coz I think u have to use torrent and P2P which I'm not too keen of. Anybody willing to send me a CD with episode 16-18 for a few quid? I could buy it for 5 quid off Ebay but might as well pay to members of this forum....I'm so nice tongue3.gif Out of all the wonderful people on this forum....no takers? bluesigh.gif Why don't you just download it? Are you on dial-up or something? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: alpal78 on April 06, 2006, 07:41:07 PM I'm a bit clueless when it comes to downloading entires episodes coz I think u have to use torrent and P2P which I'm not too keen of. Anybody willing to send me a CD with episode 16-18 for a few quid? I could buy it for 5 quid off Ebay but might as well pay to members of this forum....I'm so nice tongue3.gif Out of all the wonderful people on this forum....no takers? bluesigh.gif Why don't you just download it? Are you on dial-up or something? No my connection is very good, 10MBps, but dont I need to install a P2P program or a Torrent software? Can I just download it like I download normal stuff (music clips....etc)? Great if you can explain to me how to do it and where I can get it from.....thanks in advance. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 06, 2006, 07:43:53 PM Hmm... I guess if you copied https://www.footballissue.com/media/ into your address bar, then added "media.php" after the slash, you'd find something quite useful...
Dunno why you don't just use torrents like; you get perfect quality, and reasonably quick download speeds. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: alpal78 on April 06, 2006, 07:47:10 PM Ok Andy if u're in a good mood and feel like doing something nice today, pls run me through this Torrent thingy or at least a website that I can read about it. Thanks
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: indi on April 06, 2006, 08:34:53 PM I'll do it if, you don't mind a secondhand PM?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: colinmk on April 06, 2006, 11:10:37 PM Man I couldnt believe it when Libby turned up in the mental home at the end, didnt see that coming at all...whats your thoughts on that?? Tbh im still clueless to what this island is all about, I mean how could Libby and Hurley end up on this island? So many questions yet so many days to wait till the next episode!
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: indi on April 06, 2006, 11:48:17 PM Ok Andy if u're in a good mood and feel like doing something nice today, pls run me through this Torrent thingy or at least a website that I can read about it. Thanks Get that pm? Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 06, 2006, 11:57:44 PM Don't know if there's much to be made of it, but when Hurley and Libby were walking out of the picture at the cliff scene, she didn't look too pleased.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: chip2388 on April 07, 2006, 12:30:01 AM Still waiting for a PM in case people think i've already got it... dying to watch it! How come you don't know where to look? How many episodes have you downloaded now and you still don't know where to go!?! Come on chip mate, show some initiative!! PM'd you by the way. ;) I'm lazy abit like Hurley if you like ;) Same time next week! :) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Decky on April 07, 2006, 10:28:51 AM i think Liby is some sort of stalker and was following Hurley hence being on the plane and hence them getting along so quickly
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: colinmk on April 07, 2006, 10:38:15 AM Yeah that would make sense actually, she looks completely insane in the mantal home though, i seem to remember her saying she was a psychiatrist (sp?) earlier on in the series?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Decky on April 07, 2006, 10:44:07 AM Yeah that would make sense actually, she looks completely insane in the mantal home though, i seem to remember her saying she was a psychiatrist (sp?) earlier on in the series? really? hmmmm bluelaugh.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: James on April 07, 2006, 11:07:31 AM I'm also going for the stalker theory. Great episode though, I thought it was as good as Lockdown myself.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: colinmk on April 07, 2006, 11:10:14 AM Yeah that would make sense actually, she looks completely insane in the mantal home though, i seem to remember her saying she was a psychiatrist (sp?) earlier on in the series? really? hmmmm bluelaugh.gif tongue3.gif just realised what i wrote! bluelaugh.gif Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 07, 2006, 02:27:21 PM Quote With the Lost castaways already taken care of for next season, now it's time for the Others. And we ain't talking Creepy Beard Guy or the faux Henry Gale. Two months after locking up deals to keep the remaining survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 on the island for another year, Touchstone Television is making sure executive producers and showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse will be along for the ride as well. Lindelof, who created the series with J.J. Abrams, and Cuse have signed seven-figure deals, according to the Hollywood Reporter, ensuring that Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Kate, the professor, Mary Ann...wait a second...Anyway, ensuring that the characters will have plenty of hatches to explore, Others to avoid and flashbacks to flash back to during the 2006-07 season. Lindelof and Cuse are regarded as the brain trust that keeps the series' epic plot twists and stop-or-you-might-miss-'em little details coming, and the deal will be great news to all fans of the show. Excellent news :thup: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: 80 on April 07, 2006, 06:18:45 PM Yeah that would make sense actually, she looks completely insane in the mental home though, i seem to remember her saying she was a psychiatrist (sp?) earlier on in the series? More so than the bloke hugging thin air? i think Liby is some sort of stalker and was following Hurley hence being on the plane and hence them getting along so quickly Aye, she might well have heard of him after he won the lottery. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: indi on April 07, 2006, 07:01:28 PM Quote With the Lost castaways already taken care of for next season, now it's time for the Others. And we ain't talking Creepy Beard Guy or the faux Henry Gale. Two months after locking up deals to keep the remaining survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 on the island for another year, Touchstone Television is making sure executive producers and showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse will be along for the ride as well. Lindelof, who created the series with J.J. Abrams, and Cuse have signed seven-figure deals, according to the Hollywood Reporter, ensuring that Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Kate, the professor, Mary Ann...wait a second...Anyway, ensuring that the characters will have plenty of hatches to explore, Others to avoid and flashbacks to flash back to during the 2006-07 season. Lindelof and Cuse are regarded as the brain trust that keeps the series' epic plot twists and stop-or-you-might-miss-'em little details coming, and the deal will be great news to all fans of the show. Excellent news :thup: Nobody else notice that then!?! Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 07, 2006, 08:30:50 PM Yeah that would make sense actually, she looks completely insane in the mental home though, i seem to remember her saying she was a psychiatrist (sp?) earlier on in the series? More so than the bloke hugging thin air? i think Liby is some sort of stalker and was following Hurley hence being on the plane and hence them getting along so quickly Aye, she might well have heard of him after he won the lottery. Maybe... But I reckon Libby probably just became obssesed with Hurley when they were in there... Or - and this is a bit more out there - she is an actress, hired by DHARMA, to follow Hurley and keep tabs on him. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Slim on April 08, 2006, 01:50:51 PM Fromt the tail section
Is it all in Hurley's head? This poorly enhanced screenshot is of the painting hanging in Hurley's "room" at the asylum. Kinda looks a little like the one that hangs in the hatch. (https://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/Untitled-1-762309.png) Compare these two photos and you will agree that there are some key differences. Continuity goof or something more? The old man appears to be missing and it looks dark outside. (https://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/111-792386.jpg) (https://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/125-723065.jpg) Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: No Quarter on April 08, 2006, 02:02:23 PM The issues of light can probably be explained away by the poor quality of a polaroid photograph. Also the angle of the photo is different to that of footage shown in the programme, which could explain where the old man is (behind Hurley's fat head).
The table doesn't look very similar though, things genuinely are in different places, and that can't really be explained. Unless flashbacks are imperfect and errors always creep into their memories or it's just an error on the part of the production team, then it could be faked. But how would they have faked it? It would necessitate getting hurley to sit there with his arm around nothing again, with only slight similarities in placements of items, surely easier to just photoshop the original? It's probably error or hazy flashbacks. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 08, 2006, 02:19:58 PM Whatever effect this has on things, who knows, but I noticed the 'accident' he was involved in had certain numbers. The deck was to hold 8 people, but 23 were on it...
Also the picture in the shrinks office could well be that of the island. Although, it doesn't look anything like it, but there is a particular emphasis placed on it in certain scenes. And looking at the photo again, in my video, you can see a head, but as No Quarter points out the angles aren't right, but I'm sure it's meant to be the old guy. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 08, 2006, 03:38:30 PM The issues of light can probably be explained away by the poor quality of a polaroid photograph. Also the angle of the photo is different to that of footage shown in the programme, which could explain where the old man is (behind Hurley's fat head). The table doesn't look very similar though, things genuinely are in different places, and that can't really be explained. Unless flashbacks are imperfect and errors always creep into their memories or it's just an error on the part of the production team, then it could be faked. But how would they have faked it? It would necessitate getting hurley to sit there with his arm around nothing again, with only slight similarities in placements of items, surely easier to just photoshop the original? It's probably error or hazy flashbacks. Exactly. I've read a lot of discussion about this, but I'd say it's 99% certain to simply be a production error. A lot of people are taking the photograph as evidence that Dave was actually real or something, even though the final shot from Libby's perspective proved otherwise. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Geordiesned on April 10, 2006, 09:21:13 PM Don't know if this is general knowledge yet or not...
https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds31256.html Quote Channel 4 is switching Lost from Wednesdays to Tuesdays in order to bring it back several months earlier than planned. The second season of the cult US show was originally slated to begin in July following the conclusion of Desperate Housewives but was moved forward to the Spring to satisfy viewer demand. Sources tell Digital Spy that the show will air in a new Tuesday night slot at 10pm beginning on May 2. E4 will continue to preview new episodes each week at 11pm on Tuesdays. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Geordiesned on April 10, 2006, 09:24:12 PM https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds31236.html
Quote 'Lost' producers lobby for scheduling change The producers of Lost are seeking a new scheduling model for the show in the US to curb the frequency of repeats. Most US series, including Lost, typically air 22 new episodes each season over a period of 36 weeks, meaning that new episodes are often punctuated with repeats of old episodes. US Lost fans have complained that having to wait many weeks for a new episode has ruined their enjoyment of the show. 24 has successfully avoided the problem by delaying its return from September to January each year before airing its full season without interruption. Although Lost's broadcaster, ABC, is unwilling to adopt a similar strategy, show producers have come up with a compromise solution. "We're lobbying ABC for when the show is on, it's on, and when it's off, it's off," exec producer Damon Lindelof told E! Online. "So, we want to air it in three acts next year. You know, blocks of seven, seven and eight. But in order to do that, we have to roll the show out in October instead of September, and hopefully that will work out." Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Decky on April 10, 2006, 10:52:57 PM i think thats geat news, more like 3 short seasons next year
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: BooBoo on April 10, 2006, 11:05:56 PM I think Dave will be unlikely to be the number muttering guy- too obvious. What is more likely is that Dave is Hurleys imaginary friend, which would explain why he was in a psychiatric hospital. Other net rumours suggest Libby is not actually a psychiatrist but rather another patient who Hurley once met- hence why Hurley vaguely remembers her. Ahem. :thup: Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 10, 2006, 11:10:53 PM i think thats geat news, more like 3 short seasons next year Yep. Down side, of course, is that the two mid-season breaks will both be LONGER than the break they had before episode 10 this season, and that one was a killer. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Claypool on April 11, 2006, 01:29:54 PM When does the new episode come out for download? Is it this Thursday?
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: captainhaircut on April 11, 2006, 03:36:18 PM Good podcast this week. The guy who introduces it is an arse though. Not too sure about this weeks episode. I think it might be quite slow and just lead up to a big finale that will set up the rest of the series.
Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 11, 2006, 08:32:53 PM Good podcast this week. The guy who introduces it is an arse though. Not too sure about this weeks episode. I think it might be quite slow and just lead up to a big finale that will set up the rest of the series. Aye, enjoyed the podcast this week, good banter. I get the feeling they're really trying to clamp down on spoilers being released at the minute though; the podcasts (in particular the questions) used to result in the odd hint or clue been given, but recently they've just been funny, and not much more. The writers and actors never post on thefuselage.com anymore either (apart from Jorge Garcia), so there's definitely some kind of mass-muting going on. As for this week's episode; I've head it's another strong, character-centered one, with a fair bit of island development as well. Plus, as I've already said, it's written by steve maeda and leonard dick, so it WILL be a strong script. Title: Re: LOST - Season TWO *Discussion up to Episode 18: Dave* Post by: Andy on April 11, 2006, 11:41:20 PM Poles clothed.
"Dave" scores 3.55, which rounded up equals a "great" 4 stars. Good work Dave, you imaginary psycho b******. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 12, 2006, 08:59:38 PM New title :banana:
And a very interesting comment from Naveen Andrews (who plays Sayid): Quote Lost star Naveen Andrews is terrified his character, Sayid, may be killed off, because the show is ending the second season with a catastrophic event. The star claims the entire [LOST] cast is on edge because of the volatile nature of the series. He explains, "I know something catastrophic and violent is going to happen at the end of this season. So we all sort of sit around in fear." "All of us are pretty concerned about being relieved of our duties over in Hawaii. It's the kind of job where you can't be too complacent." "You can't just put your feet up and take it easy. It could happen at anytime." Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on April 12, 2006, 09:12:42 PM I believe the catastrophic event will be the destruction of Swan Station, and with folk trapped inside, that'll be the big end of season cliffhanger.
Hey, i guessed the Season 1 cliffhanger! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 12, 2006, 09:18:50 PM They better not kill off Sayid!!
Who do you lot want to see bite the dust? I vote for Locke or Jack. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on April 12, 2006, 09:20:43 PM Walt will make his return in some way shape or form, and the smokeball monster too.
As for who will snuff it, i reckon Ana Lucia, Libby or Jin. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 12, 2006, 09:23:54 PM Kill off Hurley, Michael, or Rose. I can't stand hearing 'dude' anymore with Hurley. Rose's voice goes through me, and Michael episodes are dire as f***. Wouldn't mind seeing the back of Kate either, getting a bit boring is she. Ana-Lucia can take a flying f*** too, and the tramp that is Charlie.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on April 12, 2006, 09:27:11 PM Charlies flashback scenes have been the low points of this season. Especially his band dancing around in nappies! Bloody hell!! The accents are embarrassing but as a characters he's not been seen that much since the Long Con. Agree about Kate, i find her a bit irritating and i'm not into her looks too much either.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Jonny2J on April 12, 2006, 09:28:55 PM Charlies flashback scenes have been the low points of this season. Especially his band dancing around in nappies! Bloody hell!! The accents are embarrassing but as a characters he's not been seen that much since the Long Con. Agree about Kate, i find her a bit irritating and i'm not into her looks too much either. Aye mate i dunno what all the fuss is about with Kate, just average to me, nothing more than a couple of bee stings in the place of tittiesTitle: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 12, 2006, 09:31:24 PM I'm not sure about Michael; we still don't really know anything about him, other than the Walt stuff. I mean, he could have worked for the CIA for all we know. I don't think it'll be him... I think you can probably rule out Jack, Kate, Hurley, Locke, Sawyer, Libby and Eko too.
Ana's a possibility, but I think she could still develop into a good character, so I doubt it. Sayid really wouldn't surprise me though, nor would Charlie. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on April 12, 2006, 09:33:08 PM bluelaugh.gif
I do however find Libby to be quirkly attractive in a hippy-chick stylee. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Jonny2J on April 12, 2006, 09:35:19 PM bluelaugh.gif Aye as i find Claire to be attractive in a quite i'd love to make her howl all over style :lol:I do however find Libby to be quirkly attractive in a hippy-chick stylee. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Ally on April 12, 2006, 10:12:38 PM Maybe the 'war' will begin with the others, could be good.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Claypool on April 12, 2006, 10:36:27 PM When is episode 19 available for download lads? Is it tommorrow?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 12, 2006, 10:39:21 PM Yes.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Claypool on April 12, 2006, 10:40:08 PM Okay thanks :) Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: colinmk on April 13, 2006, 09:57:54 AM What sites do you guys go to to get them straight away? i always seem to get them about a day after you lot.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 13, 2006, 10:52:34 AM Another good one, for me. Good character development of Rose and Bernard (more so Bernard), some clues about the island's healing powers, and just a pretty nice "calm before" episode overall.
3 stars. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 13, 2006, 10:59:21 AM Episode 20: "Two for the Road" promo:
https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x20promo-lg.zip Looks like it could be excellent. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BlufPurdi on April 13, 2006, 02:11:12 PM Didn't really enjoy that to be honest. The promo made it out to be more exciting than it was, but then I guess that's the point. Flashbacks were the bits that dragged on for me, like you say good character development, I just cannot stand Rose's voice. Honestly, she should shut the f*** up. :D
Non-flashback parts could've been better. I suppose this is the calm episode though. What's that now, a three week break? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Claypool on April 13, 2006, 03:02:36 PM Poor poor episode... Boring.. and Benard annoyed the ballz off me... Only highlight was the Ana Lucia ass shot near the beginning... Apart from that, was probably my least favourite episode... But as has already been said its probably setting up a belter for the next episode *finger crossed* 1 star
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: captainhaircut on April 13, 2006, 03:12:40 PM Average episode. Ending could be seen a mile off. Some good stuff with rose/locke and the islands healing power. Outside of that, not very good. Was expecting a bit better before the three week break, something exciting to sign off with. Jacks perfection reached another ridiculous level with that gun shot. We've already seen how good a shot Kate is when she shot those guys in the bank but we're meant to believe the wonderful, do no wrong doctor is an even better shot to go along with his immense fighting ability, his poker skill and amazing leadership qualities. Is there anything he can't do?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: 80 on April 13, 2006, 03:32:34 PM He can't let go.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: 80 on April 13, 2006, 03:35:19 PM Also, when Andy gives a Lost episode 3 stars, you know something's wrong with it.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: captainhaircut on April 13, 2006, 03:44:15 PM He can't let go. Lol. Oh yes, that horrible character flaw he has. All the rest have killed someone or done something hideous but he can't let go. Hate jack with an absolute passion. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: 80 on April 13, 2006, 03:59:57 PM He can't let go. Lol. Oh yes, that horrible character flaw he has. All the rest have killed someone or done something hideous but he can't let go. Hate jack with an absolute passion. I'm hoping for a Total Recall-style switcheroo, where it turns out that all his thoughts and memories have been put there by his fellow Others so he could become an embedded mole. Those scars that were on his face are where they scalped him to put in his new brain. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Southern Geordie on April 13, 2006, 06:40:33 PM PM appreciated as always!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 13, 2006, 06:43:06 PM Oh well, the bitch is back!!
I swear if he says he's got to find his boy, or screams Walt at the top of his voice, I'm going to kill someone. I hope he's gone mad and just starts being really random and causes them loads of hassle, or maybe he's switched sides and is now an other: that might be good. Why couldn't they have brought Dessy back? Speaking of him, I have a new theory: Desmond is actually Jack's evil brother, he wasn't just being weird by calling him it, and he is also "Him", or "King Other", or whatever you choose to call him; and this is all just some elaborate take on the old cliche of the illigitimate son taking revenge upon the favourite son, all because he is jealous of the father's love for him. Any takers? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 13, 2006, 08:44:50 PM Also, when Andy gives a Lost episode 3 stars, you know something's wrong with it. :D I'm surprised at the ammount of criticism this episode's getting tbh, it was really no different to most of the character introduction episodes in season one, and the pace of it was pretty much perfect for a slow introduction to the end of season run-in. Much better than episodes like "The Hunting Party", "Fire + Water", "Adrift" etc, which actually tried to disguise themselves as being more than they actually were. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 13, 2006, 09:07:26 PM PS. indigo might be onto something... Mikey may well be working with "The Others", under the impression that they'll let him Get Back His Boy™ if he leads our group into some kind of trap. Really wouldn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Geordiesned on April 13, 2006, 09:37:56 PM I swear if he says he's got to find his boy, or screams Walt at the top of his voice, I'm going to kill someone. Are you going to tell him or should I Andy? :lol: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Adam^ on April 13, 2006, 10:19:04 PM I thought it was ok really. Nowt major happened in it but was good filler and has set up next weeks episode realyl well.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 13, 2006, 11:49:32 PM cant see michael backstabbing everyone tbh, they helped him and he wants the best for Walt.
The only good thing about that episode was Anna Lucia, fit as f***. more of that please bluebiggrin.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 13, 2006, 11:53:29 PM cant see michael backstabbing everyone tbh, they helped him and he wants the best for Walt. Yeah, but if "The Others" have offered him the opportunity to stay with them, and therefore with walt, in exchange for him misleading the group, I think he'd probably do it. Or perhaps they've drugged him; like they did with Claire. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 13, 2006, 11:55:52 PM I swear if he says he's got to find his boy, or screams Walt at the top of his voice, I'm going to kill someone. Are you going to tell him or should I Andy? :lol: Tell me what, oh wait, I can guess!! WAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!! WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!! (repeat ad nauseum) Right, that's it, someone's gotta die!!! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 14, 2006, 12:16:07 AM just seen this for the next one
Description: Jack and Kate bring an exhausted Michael back to the camp, and with him, news about "The Others." Meanwhile, Ana Lucia attempts to get the prisoner to confess, and Hurley plans a surprise date for Libby :roll: anyone else getting tired of the fat one, the rest of the camp (the ones who arnt Sawyer, Locke, Jin, Jack, Kate, Eko, Charlie, Anna Lucia, Siyed, Michael, Walt) are all losers ffs, always doing shity things together bluesleep.gif boring Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: jasonx_102 on April 14, 2006, 10:44:26 AM I swear if he says he's got to find his boy, or screams Walt at the top of his voice, I'm going to kill someone. Are you going to tell him or should I Andy? :lol: Tell me what, oh wait, I can guess!! WAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!! WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!! (repeat ad nauseum) Right, that's it, someone's gotta die!!! You seen the promo? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Geordiesned on April 14, 2006, 10:49:32 AM I swear if he says he's got to find his boy, or screams Walt at the top of his voice, I'm going to kill someone. Are you going to tell him or should I Andy? :lol: Tell me what, oh wait, I can guess!! WAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!! WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!! (repeat ad nauseum) Right, that's it, someone's gotta die!!! You seen the promo? Yes. Andy's posted it on the last page somewhere. It'll probably be in the first post of the thread now as well. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 14, 2006, 12:13:13 PM I swear if he says he's got to find his boy, or screams Walt at the top of his voice, I'm going to kill someone. Are you going to tell him or should I Andy? :lol: Tell me what, oh wait, I can guess!! WAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!! WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!! (repeat ad nauseum) Right, that's it, someone's gotta die!!! You seen the promo? Nope, but it's not that hard to guess what he's going to say, is it? I mean, it's been pretty much his only line this whole season. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: jasonx_102 on April 14, 2006, 12:47:54 PM "IM GONNA GET MY BOY BACK"
I must say though he is sporting a very s*** beard. EDITED BY GEORDIESNED: I'VE BLANKED OUT THE TEXT AT THE TOP MATE AS IT'S FROM THE NEXT EPISODE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP AND STAY CLEAR OF THE TRAILERS, INDIGO BEING ONE OF THEM. :) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: jasonx_102 on April 14, 2006, 01:11:00 PM Couldn't see it coming myself. Only fair
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on April 14, 2006, 06:22:35 PM Have to say after reading the reviews i thought this one was going to be dull but i didn't really mind it. Henry wasnt in it too much but is in danger of becoming the shows best character- what a slippery customer he is. Kate reappeared after seemingly a good few epsiodes of her being on the periphery.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Southern Geordie on April 15, 2006, 12:23:48 PM Dont wanna sound like an arse but I cant find a decent torrent anywhere.. a PM would be appreciated :thup: :)
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 15, 2006, 12:48:10 PM Dont wanna sound like an arse but I cant find a decent torrent anywhere.. a PM would be appreciated :thup: :) Check your pms Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: slapnuts on April 15, 2006, 07:40:22 PM well there are only 5 episodes left I thought they would have started to get good to leave season 2 on a high.
Every week they are ok but not much happening, too many questions and not enough amswers. The First 4 or so episodes of series 2 were class now they are just becoming a bit boring. That said I am looking forward to finding out whats up with that Libby chick. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 15, 2006, 07:44:38 PM well there are only 5 episodes left I thought they would have started to get good to leave season 2 on a high. Every week they are ok but not much happening, too many questions and not enough amswers. The First 4 or so episodes of series 2 were class now they are just becoming a bit boring. They've already said that these episodes are the calm before the storm. Season one was the same; there was only about 10 island storyline-progressing episodes in total, and even the last couple of episodes before the finale were "filler". Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 16, 2006, 12:20:55 AM wasnt it meant to be 2 maybe 3 seasons? but then they got a deal for 5, anyone think the reason why there are so many bad episodes is because they have to drag their origional 3 season ideas out into 5 seasons, thats about 50 extra episodes
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 16, 2006, 11:40:14 AM wasnt it meant to be 2 maybe 3 seasons? but then they got a deal for 5, anyone think the reason why there are so many bad episodes is because they have to drag their origional 3 season ideas out into 5 seasons, thats about 50 extra episodes No, that isn't true. There isn't a specific amount of seasons that the show will run for; and they've only just recently been given a third season this month. The show will ultimately keep going until the ratings force ABC to say otherwise, so it's in the writer's best interests to keep writing solid episodes for as long as they possibly can. The "poor" or "filler" episodes are often specifically designed to develop the characters, or change the pace, rather than delay the plot progression. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Slim on April 16, 2006, 05:35:51 PM Lost should ahve been a 4-5 part movie
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 16, 2006, 07:28:33 PM I'm not so sure... The show revolves around it's "cliffhanger after cliffhanger, mystery after mystery" style approach, as well as it's flashbacks, and neither of those would be as effective in the cinema, I don't think.
At the end of the day, as long as ABC don't force them drag it out TOO long (5 seasons, the same as Alias, would be ok), and they fix the mid-season breaks in the way they're intending to next season, I think the show will be more than good enough to hold interest until it's over. It obviously feels frustrating and long-winded at the moment, but I'd bet every penny I own that it'll all come together beautifully at the end of the season, in the same way that it did last year. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on April 16, 2006, 07:32:54 PM In the run up to the next episode, what would any Lost fan choose as his/her number one moment in the series so far?
For me: 3. The spooky zoom in on the numbers on the hatch at the end of "Numbers" 2. The stunning pre credit scene of "Man of Science...." Just pipping them though is Locke, beating on the hatch at the end of "Deus ex Machina" (i think that was the episode) and the light coming on, complete with Lockes gasp. Real spine tingler. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 16, 2006, 07:48:58 PM All time:
3. Is that Sawyer..? No, no, can't be his flashback yet... Hold on, is it... No, not him either... HOLY CRAP IT'S THE HATCH!!!? 2. WHEELCHAIR??!!?! 1. "I've done everything you wanted me to do, so WHY did you do this TO ME?!" This season alone, excluding those above: 5. "There's a new sherif in town boys... Y'all best get used to it" 4. Eko and Locke's first: "Hello..?" "Hello." 3. "Dad?" 2. "So I dug up that grave, and inside, there was not a woman but a man.......... A man named Henry Gale." 1. "Lower your gun, or I'll blow his DAMNED head off BROTHER." Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 16, 2006, 07:54:48 PM All time: 3. Is that Sawyer..? No, no, can't be his flashback yet... Hold on, is it... No, not him either... HOLY CRAP IT'S THE HATCH!!!? 2. WHEELCHAIR??!!?! 1. "I've done everything you wanted me to do, so WHY did you do this TO ME?!" This season alone, excluding those above: 5. "There's a new sherif in town boys... Y'all best get used to it" 4. Eko and Locke's first: "Hello..?" "Hello." 3. "Dad?" 2. "So I dug up that grave, and inside, there was not a woman but a man.......... A man named Henry Gale." 1. "Lower your gun, or I'll blow his DAMNED head off BROTHER." Got a view on my Dessy theory? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 16, 2006, 07:58:09 PM Yeah, he called locke "brother" as well.
Explain that ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 16, 2006, 08:01:48 PM PS. As a side note, since we started doing this Poll thing, every single episode has averaged the EXACT same rating that I gave it.
Awesome judgement tbh :cool: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 16, 2006, 08:13:10 PM Oh, and whilst I'm on, I've decided that Sayid and Ana are going to die in the season finale.
Ana's been in the hatch a lot lately, so she'll be involved in another "incident" along with Sayid, leaving them both on the verge of death. Their last moments together will basically be Ana apologising once more for killing Shannon, and Sayid saying that he forgives her. Then they're both WIPED OUT by a big f*** off laser beam. End of episode. (PS. Eko's also in the hatch, but he casually deflects the laser beam by staring at it aggressively) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 16, 2006, 08:13:39 PM Perhaps they're all related and it's going to be like the end of Monkey Island!?!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 17, 2006, 05:32:56 PM Poll closed slightly earlier than usual, since I might not be online as much this week.
S.O.S scores exactly 3 out of 5, which rounds up to 3 out of 5. Remarkably. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 18, 2006, 01:34:17 PM MINOR SPOILERS
The finale will be Desmond-centric, called "Live Together, Die Alone". :banana: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Claypool on April 18, 2006, 01:52:29 PM Do you know when the next episode will be available Andy? Is it next week?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: No Quarter on April 18, 2006, 01:54:30 PM Do you know when the next episode will be available Andy? Is it next week? Says the 3rd of May on the first page :P. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Claypool on April 18, 2006, 02:08:30 PM Bloody hell... why can't they just have them weekly like any normal episode on the tele blueupset.gif
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 18, 2006, 02:11:21 PM Because they have to script, film and edit them, and wouldn't have time to do it without the breaks.
Most American shows are the same. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: James on April 18, 2006, 03:16:57 PM MINOR SPOILERS The finale will be Desmond-centric, called "Live Together, Die Alone". :banana: Given this, and the title, I reckon that Henry Gale might have been Desmond's partner (and maybe even BROTHER) in the hatch. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on April 18, 2006, 05:35:24 PM the day after the C4 start of season 2 bananadancethingy.gif
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Ally on April 18, 2006, 05:51:46 PM I'd say 19 was a 'nice' episode, not great, not bad but just canny.
Very interested to see whats going to happen with Michael though, on the back of a few comments here it could be class. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 18, 2006, 07:32:35 PM i was just on the ABC site and it says the next new episode on next wednesday (26th)
Wednesday, April 26 at 9/8c "Reckoning" Check back soon to find out more about this all-new episode! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 18, 2006, 08:04:09 PM It's a recap episode.
First page of the thread :winking: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: captainhaircut on April 18, 2006, 08:06:02 PM Some quite large spoilers for the finale on spoilerfix. Not sure if they should be posted just yet. I'll leave that to your discretion Andy.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 18, 2006, 08:22:09 PM I don't think they're HUGE spoilers, but yeah, I wouldn't post them just yet.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 18, 2006, 11:35:14 PM Hmm... My excitement for the next episode has been dampened by the confirmation of it been written by Liz Sarnoff and Christina M. Kim. They haven't produced a strong script yet; only conistently "meh" flashbacks, and consistently not-as-good-as-it-should-have-been island stuff (see: "The Hunting Party").
They better improve pretty dramatically for this one. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: jasonx_102 on April 20, 2006, 08:49:20 PM I can't wait for Des to return
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 21, 2006, 11:26:07 PM Finally some VERY promising stuff from ABC about the scheduling of the episodes next season:
Quote ABC Programming Chief Steve McPherson wants to maintain that audience loyalty next season. He's looking at running original episodes of Lost over consecutive weeks without repeats--an answer to constant fan gripes. "I like the idea of people knowing that Lost is on and is going to be on in originals for a long period, then have it take a break and put something else in there," he says. "Whether that's a January through May run or a big installment in the fall and another post-January, I'm not sure yet. But we're definitely considering it." Fantastic to see that they're considering going against their long-standing traditions over this issue, rather than taking the same "sweeps! sweeps! sweeps!" approach that they have done for every other show in the past. Good stuff. Prefer Damon's idea to the January-through-May thing though, an 8 month gap between seasons would be FAR too long. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 22, 2006, 03:50:50 AM look at Shameless, not the same obviously, but its very popular in this country and its taking a 10 month gap between seasons
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 22, 2006, 08:11:23 AM Yeah, but you can guarantee that the season will end on a huge cliffhanger again... Can you imagine having to wait 8 months after the end of season one?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 24, 2006, 04:02:29 PM Hmmm... From what I've heard, the next episode has a GREAT twist, which is also dissapointing at the same time (IMO). I'll not spoil too much, but I will say that ABC have apparently overruled the writing team with regards to the long-term future of at least three of the show's main cast members, for better or for worse...
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 24, 2006, 05:01:17 PM how can ABC change the script? ABC will be reasponsible for the downfall of Lost, if the creators are smart they should jump s*** to FOX and get a show every week and their own work. My friend read in a magazine that Lost is on for at least 8 seasons, pathetic, ABC are completely dragging this show out. I know so many people who stopped watching the show due to the breaks, the christmas one in particular. I love Lost but at this rate there is no way i will watch for 8 years.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 24, 2006, 05:13:20 PM how can ABC change the script? ABC will be reasponsible for the downfall of Lost, if the creators are smart they should jump s*** to FOX and get a show every week and their own work. My friend read in a magazine that Lost is on for at least 8 seasons, pathetic, ABC are completely dragging this show out. I know so many people who stopped watching the show due to the breaks, the christmas one in particular. I love Lost but at this rate there is no way i will watch for 8 years. The amount of seasons ISN'T confirmed, and I seriously doubt it will run for any more than 6 years anyway. As for ABC... They haven't 'changed the script' for the next episodes, it's more that they've forced the writers into one or two events which are set to happen over the next few weeks, for what are actually pretty justifiable reasons. You'll see how and why afterwards. You say the producers should jump to FOX for their next show, but with the exception of 24, they're just as bad (if not worse) than ABC for messing shows around. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: NE6 on April 24, 2006, 08:09:40 PM Anymore than 5 seasons and their taking the piss imo, FFS how long can you be lost for :confused:
P.S episode 19 was s**** imo, why not start taking one of henry's fingers off every other day or maybe an elastic band around his ball bag, I'm sure he'd talk then when one of his balls starts turning black and looking like it's ready to drop off. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 24, 2006, 08:16:01 PM Anymore than 5 seasons and their taking the piss imo, FFS how long can you be lost for :confused: Until the ratings drop below 5/6 million, basically. Same as any other show. JJ Abrams said a while back that they have more than enough content to cover 6 seasons if abc wanted to drag it out, but a lot of the content could easily be compressed into 4 or 5 if abc suddenly wanted cancel. So I think they have their backs covered incase of either scenario. Not sure why people want it to end so suddenly anyway though, there's a serious lack of good fictional TV as it is at the moment. My advice would be to just sit back and enjoy the ride, and not concentrate so much on the ending. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: NE6 on April 24, 2006, 08:21:50 PM Suppose your right Andy, the telly is s**** in general.
I've followed the Sopranos this long blueyes.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 24, 2006, 09:10:49 PM According to the latest ABC press release, Nick Jameson who plays Richard Malkin - Claire's psychic - is guest starring in episode 2.21 :cool:
The episode is also directed by Deran Sarafian, who worked with Carlton Cuse on some absolutely awesome episodes of "Nash Bridges" a few years back. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 24, 2006, 09:39:50 PM According to the latest ABC press release, Nick Jameson who plays Richard Malkin - Claire's psychic - is guest starring in episode 2.21 :cool: I meant to ask at the time, but forgot, and I guess someone else would have mentioned it if it were true, but were Claire's psychic and Rose's healer the same bloke? If not, has he been in it somewhere else? He looked really familiar. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 24, 2006, 09:43:12 PM According to the latest ABC press release, Nick Jameson who plays Richard Malkin - Claire's psychic - is guest starring in episode 2.21 :cool: I meant to ask at the time, but forgot, and I guess someone else would have mentioned it if it were true, but were Claire's psychic and Rose's healer the same bloke? If not, has he been in it somewhere else? He looked really familiar. Nah, totally different guy. Isaac was played by wayne pygram. Most notable appearences probably the latest star wars film, or farscape. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 24, 2006, 09:48:27 PM According to the latest ABC press release, Nick Jameson who plays Richard Malkin - Claire's psychic - is guest starring in episode 2.21 :cool: I meant to ask at the time, but forgot, and I guess someone else would have mentioned it if it were true, but were Claire's psychic and Rose's healer the same bloke? If not, has he been in it somewhere else? He looked really familiar. Nah, totally different guy. Isaac was played by wayne pygram. Most notable appearences probably the latest star wars film, or farscape. Oh well. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 24, 2006, 10:04:47 PM Some pretty cool comments from Gregg Nations, who is a script co-ordinator on the show... Not particluarly revealing, but some interesting interpretations of the plot from an inside perspective...
On character planning/development: Quote Damon had the major ideas worked out in advance. The writers came in at the beginning of the first season and worked out character histories for all the characters. Some of the details changed a little, but for the most post the flashback stories we see are what they came up with. However, that said, it's always best to allow things to be organic and "breathe" on their own. You may have a certain idea of what you want the character to be and build the character that way, and then the actor you cast brings in something different than you imagined. You build off that, like you build off an actor's strengths and weaknesses, and the character starts to morph. Again, nothing major but it's the details of the bigger aspects. And wait until you watch the next four episodes. They're really good -- and Damon has had these ideas in mind from the beginning. I can't wait to see what everyone thinks... On the overall plot... Quote Damon has an overall idea of what he wants to do in the seasons (or series). The first and second seasons have had overall themes and conflicts. Plus, he knows plot points and character development he wants to get to by a certain episode. He and the writers do have some details worked out but it's not rigid or unchangeable. It's good to let the stories live and breathe on their own to see what's working and what isn't. I'm a big fan of Twin Peaks, too, but the second season had problems with the overall development. I personally think they stretched out discovering the killer of Lara Palmer way too long, but afterwards the stories nose-dived. You could see them trying to set up new mysteries and plots to intrigue viewers, but I don't think it worked well. But then when they hit on the character of Windom Earle and made him the main conflict, I think it started getting back to its former self. So I like that Damon and the writers on Lost have made the first season generally about survival and the second season generally about the Dharma Initiative. Plus, I think they're very good about answering questions (of course never directly) and introducing new mysteries. It helps keep everything really interesting. On character resets, Jack and storyline arcs: Quote In very general terms, the overall dynamic of the first season was about surviving on the island and the conflicts that came with that. The overall dynamic in the second season has changed, which I think has been good for the series as a whole. It seems to be about the "other." And by that I mean the Others, the Dharma Initiative and even the other tailie survivors. This mixes things up, and it's going to make characters react differently -- but still within their "character." You may not like the choices that have been made, and that's okay, but it doesn't mean the writers don't care. I don't think I understand your frustration with Jack as the hero. I think he operates within the bounds of the "reluctant hero" concept. Heroes are always difficult characters to maintain because the do seem bland while the villains get to shine. Think of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. Which one is more interesting? Darth Vader of course. He's not one-note evil -- he grows and changes. Luke is kind of one-note good -- he's never really tempted by evil, and if he were he probably wouldn't have been as well liked. Creatively, a way to get around that one note aspect is to make the hero a "reluctant hero," which is where I think Jack falls. He gets to have a lot of the hero aspects but also make mistakes and fail. And I think that's great. The anger and frustration that Jack feels seems understandable to me, and I know why he's made certain decisions but that doesn't mean they've all been right. Him freezing Kate out because she followed them when they went off looking for Michael and then got caught is nothing but 13 year-old immaturity. He's pouting! Not really a heroic characteristic, but it does make Jack more of a real character. Obviously I can't tell you how the writers plan on developing his character for season three. You'll have to watch and see. But I do know they take not only the plot but who these characters are seriously. I don't think any of their integrity has been or will be compromised. On the sickness: Quote The season finale airs on May 24. After you watch it you may have further insight into the sickness. On flashbacks: Quote I would guess that the difference in the flashbacks in the first season versus the second season has more to do with establishing and creating characters. If the only flashbacks you saw were the second season flashbacks, you probably wouldn't have as good a grasp for the characters as you did with the first season flashbacks. Now that the characters are established, the writers can show shorter ranges in the flashbacks to tell the story and the audience is going to immediately understand what's going on with the character. And regarding directors, a lot of shows have directors on staff that also serve as producers. It helps gives the show more visual consistency. Because of the prep, shooting and post schedules, they couldn't alternative one right after the other. Plus, I'm sure the DGA has rules about how many guest directors a show has to bring in. The showrunners usually pick the directors they want to use and book them early in the season. Some directors may fall out (as Aronofsky did this year) but for the most part the schedule doesn't change that much. Also, the stories are worked out independently from the director's schedule, so not all big mythology shows fall to the producer-directors. Look at "The 23rd Psalm," which revealed the smoke monster and Eko's flashback story -- that was directed by a guest director, and he did a great job. And wait until you see "?" -- which is helmed by another guest director. It's gonna rock your world. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Gemmill on April 26, 2006, 12:29:52 PM How many episodes are there gonna be in this season? Anyone know, or are they just making it up as they go along? Seems to me that they haven't got a clue how it's gonna end tbh.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 26, 2006, 12:35:14 PM there are 24 episodes, episode 20 airs next wednesday
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on April 26, 2006, 02:16:34 PM Its nearly time for the rest of the Uk to catch up. Lost is all over the covers of this weeks TV Magazines.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Geordiesned on April 26, 2006, 06:57:37 PM J.J.Abrahams was interviewed on Radio 1 earlier (he's over here for the Mission Impossible 3 premiere which he directed) and said that he does know what the overall ending will be but not when as he still has no idea about how many series there will be.
On a seperate note, Michelle Rodriguez has been sent to the clink for 5 days for drink driving whilst on location in Hawaii filming Lost. She was given the option of doing community service or serving time and she chose prison! Cynthia Watros who plays Libby was also arrested and charged over the same incident back in January but she was spared jail. A few links to the story: https://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=2eea5855-2d89-49e8-8db5-4ddb6cab6961&k=55142 https://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/04/26/michelle_rodriguez_chooses_jail_time_ove https://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyid=2006-04-26T024401Z_01_N25234833_RTRUKOC_0_US-ACTRESS.xml Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Geordiesned on April 26, 2006, 07:00:11 PM there are 24 episodes, episode 20 airs next wednesday There are only 23 episodes in this series although episode 23 is a 2 hour (which will include about 30 minutes of adverts!) special. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on April 26, 2006, 07:59:30 PM Some of you wanted an idea about how long it was going to go on for - in red.
Other points of interest - in bold. From: https://media.guardian.co.uk/mediaguardian/story/0,,1759629,00.html Quote Lost finds its way back Lost returns to C4 next week for a second series and ABC has announced it will be streamed. Is it part of a new genre of drama? Stephen Armstrong Monday April 24, 2006 The Guardian In a striking admisssion for a film critic, Lisa Schwarzbaum, a columnist on Entertainment Weekly, admitted in print last month that US TV had hit an astonishing golden patch that made the indie-by-numbers efforts of Sundance and floundering blockbusters of Hollywood look dreary by comparison. Her examples included Desperate Housewives and Prison Break, but reading between the lines you could tell that her addiction was to Lost, Channel 4's returning US thriller-cum-soap. Lost is, essentially, Wallpaper does Robinson Crusoe with a dollop of Twin Peaks weirdness. The show's premise came from former ABC programming boss Lloyd Braun, who was keen to make the station a reality-only network. What would happen if a plane crashed on a desert island and you filmed the survivors? Under co-creators Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse - two writers with experience in forensic thrillers and cop shows - the reality idea became a scripted drama. The cast became sculpted young actors instead of reality TV wannabes. Instead of bush tucker trials, the survivors had to band together to deal with creepy attacks from invisible monsters as well as demented humans, while solving a sequence of numbers and wondering if this whole thing is a gigantic psychological experiment. Alongside ABC stablemate Desperate Housewives, the show did the numbers on both sides of the pond. Series two, which starts on Channel 4 next week, averaged 20.6 million viewers in the US, placing it up in a top five that includes American Idol and the Super Bowl. Last week ABC announced it would be one of four pioneering shows to be made available for live streaming on its website - an experiment to overcome TiVo ad-skipping by embedding commercials in the show. It also led, ultimately, to Braun and his all-reality idea leaving the network. In the UK, the story was pretty similar. In a generally poor US import climate - My Name Is Earl on C4 gets 1.8 million viewers and Everybody Hates Chris on Five gets 1.6 million - Lost's first season averaged 4.1 million viewers at 10pm on Wednesday nights. Over on E4, which showed the following week's episode immediately afterwards, the first series averaged 1.3 million - the equivalent of an early evening Simpsons episode on Sky One and an astonishing figure for 11pm on multichannel. Although C4 has no plans to stream full episodes, Lost clips, cast interviews, previews and reviews will be made available on mobile phones as downloads and on PCs as streamed content. Schwarzbaum believes this ratings success is part of a new trend in US drama - a blend of closed-off episode storylines, longer narrative arcs and a mystery that might take four or five seasons to resolve. The addictive qualities of constant cliff-hangers are seen as a way to keep and build fickle audiences. Similar shows, such as Housewives and Prison Break, have been challenging the single plot shows such as CSI that have dominated US ratings for five or six years. As a result, there is already a swathe of copycats hoping to cash in on viewers' addiction to these long-form serialised mysteries. For Lost's creators, however, success has brought problems. "On the one hand Lost is a cult show," says Lindelof, co-creator and executive producer. "On the other it has to appeal to my mother. We have to deliver clues gradually enough to maintain the story's mystery but not alienate the viewers. We have to develop characters, emotions and love affairs, but still leak out references to obscure corporations and philosophers. To be honest, we'd have loved it if we could have done 13 episodes per series for five years - but the economics of network TV don't allow that." In series two, Lindelof extends his narrative by introducing a second group of survivors who were trapped in the tail section and emerge from the other side of the island. The series kills off some key characters and increases the tension in the dysfunctional love triangles. However, the big questions - such as what on earth is actually going on? - are not really resolved. "The question that came up most often, just on viewing the pilot, was how long can this possibly sustain?" Lindelof says. "We feel burned by shows like The X Files or Twin Peaks, which overshot by a long way and left their audiences very disappointed so we have a clear idea as to how the story will end. I'd hope for a maximum of four seasons - 100 episodes. We have to improvise in many ways in terms of how we tell our story but we pretty much know what the finale is going to be." In a bid to keep everyone interested for the full term but separate the colliding worlds of obsessive nerds and couch potatoes, Lindelof and Cuse have gone on-line. They have created fake and official websites as well as dropping rumours into fan chatrooms, while The Lost Experience website will start releasing clues about the mythology of the island. "It's the curse and the blessing of being on a show that has a mystery element," Lindelof says. "There are two types of people: those who read a book slowly because they want to draw the end out as much as possible and those who, once they think they know who done it, immediately flip to the end to check whether they are right. Those who post on the internet tend to be focused solely on the mythological elements of the show. But if you let yourself get sucked into that, then you get it into your head that's all anybody wants. The internet community allows us to head off the nerds." Audiences can be fickle as network bosses, and Lindelof is aware that his carefully structured narrative could fall victim to an underperforming ratings sweep. For now, though, he is happy to have something on air where his views on faith and philosophy are tossed about - there is even a character called John Locke - and he hopes its success heralds further dumbing up. "Obviously a lot of Lost-derived shows started out this year, but I think we've opened the possibility that you can do a show that tries to dig a little bit deeper into the meaningful questions of our existence. Hopefully, the networks will be more open to producing other shows that are a little bit deeper in content." Providing they have plenty of wet T-shirts. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 26, 2006, 08:32:49 PM How many episodes are there gonna be in this season? Anyone know, or are they just making it up as they go along? Seems to me that they haven't got a clue how it's gonna end tbh. https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,12952.msg128624.html#msg128624 ;) I don't think they're making it up as they go along, it would be impossible to keep it all so tight. I DO think however, that they have a lot of flexibility in their overall mythology, so they can chop and change it to suit themselves whenever they wish (if they come up with new ideas or whatever). Basically as long as Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are head writers, you can guarentee a well-written and logical conclusion to the show, as well as it's individual seasons. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 26, 2006, 08:41:08 PM I'd hope for a maximum of four seasons - 100 episodes. I hope ABC listen to him on this, 4 seasons would be the perfect amount. It would be nice to see them let the writers determine the show's length for a change (as they do in england), rather than thinking of money all the time. People would take future series on the channel a lot more seriously if they lot LOST end whilst still on a high, rather than waiting until everyone's sick of it first. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 27, 2006, 06:21:58 PM Canadian preview for 2.20... Contains spoilers, of course:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaEuOH5N5Qc Some interesting stuff in there... Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 27, 2006, 07:21:53 PM you sure that wasnt for episode 21?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 27, 2006, 07:23:58 PM Yeah.
The first scene shown is from Ana's flashbacks. Episode 20 is Ana-centric. Episode 21 is Eko-centric. You do the math... Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 27, 2006, 07:24:36 PM ah no ive just seen that 20 is annas episode
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 27, 2006, 10:35:21 PM Yeah. The first scene shown is from Ana's flashbacks. Episode 20 is Ana-centric. Episode 21 is Eko-centric. You do the math... no need to get snappy if you look at the video it says 21, easy mistake to make like. Oh and where does Maths come into this? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 27, 2006, 10:38:40 PM no need to get snappy if you look at the video it says 21, easy mistake to make like Snappy :lol: I said when I posted it that it was from episode 20. You should know by now that I don't make mistakes when it comes to that kind of thing ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Gemmill on April 28, 2006, 10:31:33 AM They're taking the piss with these "season re-caps" etc. Tbh the show is not THAT good for them to be taking the water out of people like this - HBO show an episode of the Sopranos one week after the next, and that's 10 times the show lost is. It took me ages to bother to watch Episodes 15-19, having sat with them on my computer for donkeys. I just think they're bang out of order holding back the episodes like this.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 28, 2006, 12:32:42 PM im sure Andy can clear this question up. Why are there breaks when other shows write and film episodes on time to meet a week to week scedule?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: captainhaircut on April 28, 2006, 12:35:04 PM im sure Andy can clear this question up. Why are there breaks when other shows write and film episodes on time to meet a week to week scedule? Been answered plenty. the gap between the series would be longer if they were to do that. So to get the series out earlier, they have to seperate the episodes slightly and film the season as they go. I for one probably couldn't have waited any longer between season 1 and 2. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on April 28, 2006, 10:23:00 PM has anyone mentioned yet that the symbols that appear in red when the timer counts down are the symbols for each of the hatches? noticed it in reckoning, thought it was pretty interesting.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on April 29, 2006, 10:04:32 AM As Henry said "those funny little signs like heiroglyphics".
Up there with Locke and Eko as best character IMO. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 29, 2006, 11:31:01 AM Definitely. Henry's introduction has turned season two around.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 30, 2006, 11:14:11 AM New promo from ABC:
https://media.putfile.com/Alias-and-Lost-promo Be warned that it contains some possible Alias spoilers as well. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on April 30, 2006, 06:34:05 PM Also, some comments from Damon about the season finale:
Quote "We're really thrilled with how the final script turned out; it's nothing short of epic [...] I don't want to give too much away, but there will be a father's journey to get his son back, there will finally be definitive answers to the questions that surround the hatch -- and also the return of the man who first asked them. And, of course, a wildly outside-the-box new mystery will lay down the entire foundation for Season 3. We're all really jazzed about hearing the reaction to it". Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Adam^ on April 30, 2006, 06:57:18 PM ep 20 out this wed/thurs 3/4 may right ?
edit Sorry didnt no the 1st page had been update thank god new lost this week to go with new invasino episode shoudl be good. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on May 01, 2006, 01:05:53 AM Also, some comments from Damon about the season finale: Quote "We're really thrilled with how the final script turned out; it's nothing short of epic [...] I don't want to give too much away, but there will be a father's journey to get his son back, there will finally be definitive answers to the questions that surround the hatch -- and also the return of the man who first asked them. And, of course, a wildly outside-the-box new mystery will lay down the entire foundation for Season 3. We're all really jazzed about hearing the reaction to it". sounds good, i take it Desmond is the guy who asked the questions? also this new mystery, i bet it is dragged through the entire season 3 and we dont get the big answer to the end which will be about a year from now, cant wait Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Geordiesned on May 01, 2006, 09:27:07 AM Also, some comments from Damon about the season finale: Quote "We're really thrilled with how the final script turned out; it's nothing short of epic [...] I don't want to give too much away, but there will be a father's journey to get his son back, there will finally be definitive answers to the questions that surround the hatch -- and also the return of the man who first asked them. And, of course, a wildly outside-the-box new mystery will lay down the entire foundation for Season 3. We're all really jazzed about hearing the reaction to it". sounds good, i take it Desmond is the guy who asked the questions? also this new mystery, i bet it is dragged through the entire season 3 and we dont get the big answer to the end which will be about a year from now, cant wait Was it Desmond who made a brief cameo in 24 as the German spy? EDIT: It was him! https://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2006/03/losts_desmond_t.html Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 01, 2006, 01:13:03 PM Yet ANOTHER trailer from ABC:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wDQHzR9QZRY&search=Lost%20preview Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on May 01, 2006, 01:43:56 PM I'm so glad i chose to download series 2. The ammount of spoilers in the media for the first few epsiodes is ridiculous. Some mags are even giving away whats in the hatch, whilst the Radio Times introduces the new characters which kind of ruins the cliffhanger when you think the tailsection survivors may be The Others!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Claypool on May 01, 2006, 02:51:13 PM Aye i agree with you mate.. The adverts are ridiculous.. They give away far too much.. if i hadn't of already watched series 2 i would be seriously pissed with channel 4, Its a show based on suspense, wouldn't of been half as enjoyable sticking on an episode and saying "oh there's that guy from the advert, i was wondering when he was going to turn up"
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 01, 2006, 05:03:57 PM I don't think they're that bad really. They only seem so spoilerish because we already know what's happening in them.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on May 01, 2006, 05:26:44 PM Er.......
The Suns TV Guide synopsis for episode 2 is along the lines of "Locke is told by Desmond he must push the button every 108 minutes or the world will end. Jack however remains sceptical." Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on May 01, 2006, 05:31:27 PM Er....... The Suns TV Guide synopsis for episode 2 is along the lines of "Locke is told by Desmond he must push the button every 108 minutes or the world will end. Jack however remains sceptical." No need to watch the episode now, eh? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 01, 2006, 05:41:12 PM Er....... The Suns TV Guide synopsis for episode 2 is along the lines of "Locke is told by Desmond he must push the button every 108 minutes or the world will end. Jack however remains sceptical." I was referring to the adverts. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on May 01, 2006, 05:41:59 PM Ah right, but in general far too much has been leaked.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 01, 2006, 05:43:12 PM Anyone who reads the sun deserves all the spoilers they get anyway tbh ;)
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on May 01, 2006, 05:49:51 PM Only get it on a Saturday as i like the football preview!
bluebiggrin.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: indi on May 01, 2006, 05:51:34 PM Anyone who reads the sun deserves all the spoilers they get anyway tbh ;) Anyone who reads the sun, probably can't read them anyway! ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 02, 2006, 07:12:30 PM So... This "lost experience" thing begins tonight (https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds32149.html). From what I can gather, we're looking for a URL or something during the C4 show, or during one of it's ad-breaks.
Keep your eyes peeled. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Dr Spectrum on May 02, 2006, 10:16:44 PM So... This "lost experience" thing begins tonight (https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds32149.html). From what I can gather, we're looking for a URL or something during the C4 show, or during one of it's ad-breaks. Keep your eyes peeled. probably that advert for the hanso foundation...rung the number yet? bluebiggrin.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Geordiesned on May 02, 2006, 10:30:39 PM So... This "lost experience" thing begins tonight (https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds32149.html). From what I can gather, we're looking for a URL or something during the C4 show, or during one of it's ad-breaks. Keep your eyes peeled. probably that advert for the hanso foundation...rung the number yet? bluebiggrin.gif Not yet but I will be. :D I'm taping it so I'll get the number later. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 02, 2006, 10:36:56 PM I rang it, got offered a list of automated options. Most of them were names of people.
Didn't get a chance to go any further though, stupid girlfriend wanted to ring her mother :( Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Geordiesned on May 02, 2006, 10:49:48 PM What's the number Andy?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Dr Spectrum on May 02, 2006, 10:58:10 PM On https://www.thehansofoundation.org/ theres a section to sign up to the newsletter, but it asks for a password. It says something about a call centre tv ad if you get it wrong (which is quite likely considering I havent got a f*ing clue). Quite hard to read tho
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 02, 2006, 10:58:26 PM 0800 66 66 40.
Or just go to https://www.thehansofoundation.org/ ... And enter the password: breakingstrain Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Decky on May 02, 2006, 11:42:08 PM where do you enter the password
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 02, 2006, 11:44:31 PM Sign up for the newsletter.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 03, 2006, 05:20:39 PM AskAusiello interview with Damon and Carlton. Very interesting stuff:
Quote Here's the Ask Ausiello column for May 3, 2006: https://www.tvguide.com/News/Ausiello/AskAusiello/default.htm?rmDate=05032006 (https://www.tvguide.com/News/Ausiello/AskAusiello/default.htm?rmDate=05032006") Ausiello: You've come to the right place, Carrie. Back by popular demand, this week's Ask Ausiello is essentially one big Lostapalooza, starring executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. Not only is the duo answering all of our burning Season 2 questions, but they're also offering up tantalizing clues and spoilers about the final four episodes. Or, I should say, three. Conspicuously missing from the following Q&A is any discussion of tonight's explosive May-sweeps kickoff. For the dirt on that, you'll have to check out my Ausiello Report blog immediately following tonight's telecast. Trust me when I say you don't want to miss it — the episode or the blog posting. And because I don't believe in discriminating against non-Lost fans, if you scroll past the Lindelof and Cuse interview you'll find scoop on 24, Gilmore Girls, Big Love, Rescue Me, CSI, The O.C., Everwood and Prison Break. For everyone else, it's time to get Lost. (That play on words never gets old. Never!) Ausiello: Aside from why the plane crashed, what other questions will be answered in these last four episodes? Carlton Cuse: Well, obviously, the resolution of the Michael-Walt story. We're going to answer the question of where Michael has been and resolve the story of him and Walt. That's been hanging over us since the finale of last year. Damon Lindelof: By the way, we want to preface all of these answers by saying that we feel we are giving definitive answers to some of these mysteries, but often times it blows up in our faces because fans don't feel like we entirely answered that mystery. Ausiello: Will Malcolm David Kelley's growth spurt be addressed when he returns? Damon: Did you see him on My Name Is Earl? Ausiello: Yeah, he looked about the same. Damon: There's no growth spurt. Ausiello: But eventually he's going to grow. Damon: That's something we'll be dealing with in the third season. But in terms of these four episodes, it wasn't an issue. He looks like the same kid who was abducted off the raft [in May 2005], which was a month [ago in Lost] time. Ausiello: What about the Dharma Initiative? Will we get more answers? Damon: We will learn more about them. Carlton: Answers in the sense of more information about it. But we'd have to write a 300-page book to give you all the answers about the Dharma Initiative. Damon: And, obviously, as you already mentioned in Ask Ausiello, Desmond is coming back [in the May 24 finale]. And obviously he ran away before we had a chance to sit him down and ask him a lot of questions about his experience in the hatch. He'll shed some more light on his experience on the island in the three years prior to when Locke came down into that hatch. Ausiello: Might he have something to do with why the plane went down? Damon: I saw that you speculated exactly that in no uncertain terms in Wednesday's Ask Ausiello, and, you know, we're not commenting on it. (OMG! Damon Lindelof reads Ask Ausiello!!!!) Ausiello: Will the episode titled "?" explain what the… I think you know where I'm going with this… Carlton: It would be a fair inference to say the question-mark episode is about finding out what that question mark on that map means. Damon: That episode is a great opportunity for us to finally put Locke and Mr. Eko together, sort of a philosophical battle of faith and will that we've been hinting at all season long. [It started] back when Eko gave Locke that film that he brought across in that hollowed-out Bible, [and] this is sort of the next step in their relationship. Just as a side note, the "?" episode was originally going to be the episode that Darren Aronofsky would direct prior to Rachel Weisz's pregnancy. Well, either "?" or "Lockdown", but more than likely "?". We thought it would be a cool shout-out to him since he made the movie Pi, which was just the symbol for pi. Carlton: It ended up being directed by a guy named Deran Sarafian. It was hard to find another Darren to direct the episode, but we managed. Ausiello: Will there be any dramatic developments in the Sawyer/Kate/Jack triangle? Carlton: I guess it depends what you mean by the word "dramatic." There is more stuff between them, but the focus is not on the romance between those characters. There are bigger fish to fry. Ausiello: What about the intended romance with Ana Lucia and Jack? Did you change your mind about that? Carlton: Yes. Sometimes we tell the show what to do and sometimes the show tells us what to do. And as we started to try to work on it, we never really got to a place where it made sense. Those characters were not in a place where we felt it was believable for them to have a romance. We had intentions of doing that, but as we started telling the stories and started writing the scripts, it just didn't feel right to us. Ausiello: I thought you guys said we'd find out this season how Locke became paralyzed. Damon: I don't remember saying that. Carlton: If we did… Damon: We apologize. We're not going to comment on whether or not you're going to get that by the end of this year, Ausiello: Claire and Charlie have been on the back burner of late. Are they going to come back into play? Carlton: They are definitely going to figure back into things. They've been on a break and there's definitely some advancement in their relationship as part of the finale. Ausiello: What happened to the army that Jack and Ana Lucia were going to train? Damon: Well, obviously, Jack and Ana Lucia had a longer-range goal, which is, "Now we know about the existence of these people, they told us not to cross this line, so let's start preliminarily figuring out how we're going to do that." And that entire plan was wildly sidetracked by Sawyer taking control of all the guns, not to mention Henry Gale's capture. When Henry was captured, that became Jack and Ana Lucia's new focus. So, although the perception might be that we dropped the idea of forming an army, what actually happened was that more significant things replaced the need to develop an army. But that concept is indeed coming back for the finale. Ausiello: For as long as Lost has been on the air, there have been rumors of a Vincent-centric flashback episode. Is that going to happen? Damon: One of the inherent problems of doing any kind of Vincent-centric flashback is that, you know, Vincent is a dog. [Laughs] And he was owned by Walt in Australia, which would have been a younger version of Malcolm David Kelley than exists now. Carlton: And he's also very unprofessional as an actor so we don't really want to reward him with a flashback. Ausiello: What about an episode told from Vincent's POV on the island? Damon: We're not entirely closed off to that idea. One of the fake endings for Season 1 that we were floating out there as part of our misinformation campaign was that Vincent's flashback was going to end the season and we were going to see what he saw in the cargo hold of the plane. I think that's where that rumor started. Ausiello: The Henry Gale-Wizard of Oz connection — intentional? Damon: Wildly intentional. You have a guy who says he landed on the island in a balloon, but in fact he's not that guy. What's so interesting about the Wizard of Oz is that thematically it plays with so many of the same things that we play with on the show. When Dorothy wakes up at the end, it's like, you know, did she ever really leave Kansas? Is Oz a real place? All those things that people talk about concerning Lost. Ausiello: Will we ever get a Rousseau flashback? Damon: You can expect to see more of Rousseau next year, but the story of the wrecked research vessel… it will be coming at some point but we can't guarantee it'll be in Season 3. Ausiello: Will there be a flashback component to every episode next season? Eventually, it would seem, you're going to run out of back stories. Carlton: The flashbacks are very central to the concept of the series, and we have no intention of abandoning them as a concept. Damon: And we'll be introducing new characters in Season 3, so you'll be getting fresh flashbacks. You'll probably see fewer flashbacks of our original characters as we begin to move toward certain inevitabilities, but, you know… Carlton: The flashback where Jack learns how to shave is still enormously compelling to us. Damon: And the one where he loses his keys. Ausiello: Will we see some of those mysterious background survivors move to the forefront next season? Carlton: Yeah, we've been so busy telling other stories that we haven't gotten around to talking that much about some of the other survivors. So yes, you will learn more about some of the other survivors next year. Damon: Also, where the new characters come from in Season 3 is going be part of the fun and anticipation over the summer, and hopefully by the end of the finale you'll be getting some sense of who those characters might be. Ausiello: Speaking of which, can you give me any hints about the top-secret cliff-hanger that you're referring to by the code name "The Challah"? Damon: You're obviously not a Jew. Ausiello: How do you pronounce it? Damon: Gchh-hallah Carlton: I'm not Jewish and I can say it. You're a good Italian boy. Ausiello: And I even practiced right before this interview! OK, can you tell me anything about The Challah? Carlton: No. Damon: We are not talking about it. Carlton: Do you know what The Challah is? Ausiello: It's some kind of Jewish bread. Damon: Last year we had "The Bagel" and this year we have "The Challah." Carlton: We just decided that we're sticking with Jewish bakery products. Next year will probably be "The Matzoh." Ausiello: Damon, it was just announced that you're producing the next Star Trek movie and J.J. Abrams is directing it. Does that mean Carlton is running Lost by himself next season? Carlton: [Laughs] Rumors about the extent to which Star Trek is going to influence Lost are wildly exaggerated. Damon and I are fully committed to running Lost together next year. Damon: Lost continues to be my full-time job next year and any involvement I have in Star Trek will obviously be secondary to my day job. I have no intention whatsoever of stepping back. Carlton and I have been running the show since the seventh episode of the first season together. We have essentially produced 42 hours of Lost and, you know, we are going to produce the next 22 hours of Lost in Season 3 in exactly the same way. Ausiello: Is J.J. coming back into the fold? Damon: He's been talking about getting involved again. Our fingers are crossed hoping that he will, but obviously that will be a byproduct of his own availability. We've both seen Mission: Impossible 3; it's breathtaking and awesome. It's going to make gazonks of money. Ausiello: I know you guys, like me, are big Veronica Mars fans, so I'm going to ask this under the heading of, "I hope to God this never happens." But if by some tragedy CW doesn't pick up the show, might Kristen Bell wash ashore next season? Carlton: Gosh, she's awesome, but… I don't think Veronica Mars is going to get canceled. Damon: As fans of the show, we're really hoping that does not happen. OK, folks, that concludes the special Lost portion of Ask Ausiello. Remember, check out my blog (https://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049") immediately following tonight's episode for more from Lindelof and Cuse. Now, before I return you to your regularly scheduled AA, I have to get something out of my system: OMG! Damon Lindelof reads Ask Ausiello!!!! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on May 03, 2006, 06:02:54 PM Great interview, cheers Andy.
ps- Did anyone else get waken up this morning to find Chris Moyles playing "Make your own kind of music" on Radio 1. I went from sleep to wide awake in about 5 seconds! bluelaugh.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: Andy on May 03, 2006, 08:33:51 PM This is what JJ Abrams has to say about the season finale:
Quote Lost, however, has many more seasons ahead. With Season One culminating in a teasing peak inside the hatch, how can a second season cliffhanger top that? “I can tell you that Damon has done just that. The ending of this year in Lost blows the ending of last season out of the water. It’s an incredible finale.” But the hatch was the dominating thread of season one. With so many elements going on in Lost now, what is the biggest thing that can leave us hanging? “You’ll see what happens but I can tell you that a lot of it has been there and been building from the beginning of this season. It’s not out of the blue, but what happens at the very end of this year, for me, it’s the greatest finale I have ever heard.” Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 19: S.O.S* Post by: BooBoo on May 03, 2006, 08:58:13 PM I'm sticking with my guess of "hatch gets blown up trapping Jack, Locke and Kate inside." The reason is the counter will count down to zero again and being third time unlucky, kaboom, zapped from an orbiting satellite."
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: jwillie on May 03, 2006, 10:11:10 PM It must have something to do with Des as it's his episode. I hope he stays in it for next season... Brother.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 03, 2006, 10:29:53 PM Really looking forward to this episode now, it's receiving overwhelmingly favorable reviews from pretty much all the trusted spoiler sources out there.
If what I've heard is correct, the end cliffhanger is basically going to be one of the most "HOLY s***" inducing yet. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 03, 2006, 10:31:31 PM Really looking forward to this episode now, it's receiving overwhelmingly favorable reviews from pretty much all the trusted spoiler sources out there. If what I've heard is correct, the end cliffhanger is basically going to be one of the most "HOLY s***" inducing yet. Out tomorrow yeah? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 03, 2006, 10:34:13 PM yeah.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: allmo4001 on May 03, 2006, 10:35:31 PM Is tomorrows the last of the series ?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 03, 2006, 10:37:24 PM no.
https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,12952.msg128624.html#msg128624 :) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 03, 2006, 10:38:35 PM It must have something to do with Des as it's his episode. I hope he stays in it for next season... Brother. Welcome back. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Geordiesned on May 03, 2006, 10:49:57 PM Really looking forward to this episode now, it's receiving overwhelmingly favorable reviews from pretty much all the trusted spoiler sources out there. If what I've heard is correct, the end cliffhanger is basically going to be one of the most "HOLY s***" inducing yet. They're actually all on the set of the Trueman Show! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: No Quarter on May 03, 2006, 10:52:42 PM I gave it 5 stars, good stuff! Never saw that coming.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 03, 2006, 10:54:22 PM I gave it 5 stars, good stuff! Never saw that coming. Screener? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 03, 2006, 11:16:39 PM I gave it 5 stars, good stuff! Never saw that coming. Don't ruin the Sultan's Poll of Official Lost Ratings please. Cheers. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 06:40:55 AM Christ, what an episode that was :D
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: No Quarter on May 04, 2006, 09:13:54 AM I gave it 5 stars, good stuff! Never saw that coming. Don't ruin the Sultan's Poll of Official Lost Ratings please. Cheers. blueeek.gif IT WAS YOU! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Dr Spectrum on May 04, 2006, 03:11:04 PM I thought the episode was pretty boring up until the last minute. But jeebus!!!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: captainhaircut on May 04, 2006, 03:11:22 PM Christ, what an episode that was :D Nowt to add to that. Was a bit obvious considering the DUI offences of the actors. I wonder how they're going to pass it off as simply part of the story and not a punishment for the actors. Anyhow, the series is well set up now. 3 left, can't wait. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 04, 2006, 04:58:30 PM Please tell me Michael killed himself, and not just a shot in the arm... Oh, and good riddance to that two as well.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: No Quarter on May 04, 2006, 05:04:54 PM Whatever happened to spoilers in white for a few days? :cry:
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Dr Spectrum on May 04, 2006, 05:05:15 PM No, he shot himself in the shoulder.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 04, 2006, 05:15:21 PM Whatever happened to spoilers in white for a few days? :cry: Sorry. But then, you did see the episode before us all... ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 04, 2006, 05:16:42 PM No, he shot himself in the shoulder. You really don't know how disappointed that makes me. I actually went "Yes! Ya c***" when I though he'd done himself. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 06:40:33 PM Whatever happened to spoilers in white for a few days? :cry: We stopped doing that because it made the thread impossibly hard to follow. Please tell me Michael killed himself, and not just a shot in the arm... Oh, and good riddance to that two as well. SPOILERS Nah, it was his arm. He shot himself to make it look like Henry did it (assuming that Henry will now escape). Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: allmo4001 on May 04, 2006, 07:02:04 PM Could be the makings of swap for walt, e.g. They say they will give walt if you can free Henry.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: abertoon on May 04, 2006, 07:15:44 PM Could be the makings of swap for walt, e.g. They say they will give walt if you can free Henry. That was my initial reaction. Makes senseTitle: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 08:20:55 PM Interview with Cuse and Lindelof about Michelle Rodrigues/Ana being evicted from the show:
https://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049 Not sure whether I buy it, but they do make some fair points. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: captainhaircut on May 04, 2006, 08:45:33 PM Interview with Cuse and Lindelof about Michelle Rodrigues/Ana being evicted from the show: https://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049 Not sure whether I buy it, but they do make some fair points. Yeah I read that this morning as well. Rubbish ofor me, especially regarding Libby. Why have thsi big mystery surrounding her being in the mental home and then kill her off. And i'm sure there was talk of a Libby flashback before the DUI. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 08:46:26 PM Interview with Cuse and Lindelof about Michelle Rodrigues/Ana being evicted from the show: https://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049 Not sure whether I buy it, but they do make some fair points. Yeah I read that this morning as well. Rubbish ofor me, especially regarding Libby. Why have thsi big mystery surrounding her being in the mental home and then kill her off. And i'm sure there was talk of a Libby flashback before the DUI. Libby might not be dead yet though :winking: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: captainhaircut on May 04, 2006, 08:52:11 PM Yeah i thought that but then i thought if she's going to survive, she would need a major surgical intervention and then the next episode would be a great big Jack lovefest, with the flashbacks being on him. Since the flashbacks are Eko i don't see it.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 08:53:14 PM Yeah i thought that but then i thought if she's going to survive, she would need a major surgical intervention Jack's magical water should do the trick. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: captainhaircut on May 04, 2006, 08:54:03 PM Yeah i thought that but then i thought if she's going to survive, she would need a major surgical intervention Jack's magical water should do the trick. Lol. In all seriousness though, Libby will surely not survive. I assume you know, so give me some sort of sign! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 08:56:47 PM I'd be very surprised if we don't learn more of her backstory before the season ends, regardless of what happens next week.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 04, 2006, 09:01:51 PM Thought that was an average episode, I saw what was coming a mile off, although maybe not like that, I thought A-L would try and kill Henry and Mike would hit her over the head and escape with Henry. The interview Andy posted earlier made it obvious A-L was going to die before the end of the season, although I thought it might be in the last episode. They blatantly just got rid of Libby, it almost seemed like an afterthought, I doubt they planned it.
However, one good thing about this episode, it added weight to my "redemption" theory, with the "your one of the good ones, John" (or whatever Henry said) - in five years time when it's all revealed, remember where you heard it first. My new prediction is that Jack's Dad is also Claire's Dad and not only that, he's also something to do with the others, maybe even Boss Hogg!! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 04, 2006, 09:04:40 PM This week's episode of Prison Break, shat on that from a great height, by the way.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 09:06:03 PM My new prediction is that Jack's Dad is also Claire's Dad and not only that, he's also something to do with the others, maybe even Boss Hogg!! Yeah, the fact that he's such a regular flashback character makes it hard for me to believe that he's not going to be pivotal in the island story as well. He'll still be alive probably, a la Sydney's mother in season one of Alias. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: BooBoo on May 04, 2006, 09:11:35 PM bluebigeek.g bluebigeek.gif bluebigeek.gifif
What an ending! I can only assume Mike was told the only way to get Walt back would be to spin some cock n bull story about the wigwams and lack of guns and then take the opportunity when the rest are gone to break Henry out by any means possible. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 09:12:40 PM This week's episode of Prison Break, shat on that from a great height, by the way. Having just watched the latest pb, I disagree... It was a good episode, but the difference is, the cliffhanger in this week's PB episode WILL be dealt with and forgotten about within the next few episodes, whereas the cliffhanger on lost will have probably repercussions over the long-term. The entire dynamic of the show has changed with that episode, for me. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Decky on May 04, 2006, 10:04:42 PM Thought the episode was pretty average to be honest, apart from the ending it was nothing special from what we have seen all season. Glad the hurley libby thing is over, hopfully hurley will want revenge and go off on one. Let not forget Henry cant go back to the Others as he said they would kill him, so i think this back fires on Michael.
Also Jacks dad could be the boss, he could have faked his own death and the plane was taken down to bring him there. Remember his body was missing from the coffin and has yet to be found. Also Andy said before about ABC and the people getting killed off, i think we have seen it to be honest, although i wonder what they changed Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 04, 2006, 10:06:25 PM This week's episode of Prison Break, shat on that from a great height, by the way. Having just watched the latest pb, I disagree... It was a good episode, but the difference is, the cliffhanger in this week's PB episode WILL be dealt with and forgotten about within the next few episodes, whereas the cliffhanger on lost will have probably repercussions over the long-term. The entire dynamic of the show has changed with that episode, for me. Yeah, if you take a long term view you're proabably right, but in terms of the episodes themselves, I stick with what I said. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Decky on May 04, 2006, 10:11:36 PM ive just realised the episode name, could mean several things, like anna and jacks dad going to Sydney or maybe the two for the road are Anna and Libby?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: ewerk on May 04, 2006, 10:13:09 PM I was pretty disappointed with that episode. It was obvious from a mile off that Michael wasn't telling the truth. His story about the others living in tents, being dirty and no better off than them was so transparent, especially was we and the characters know that that appearance is only an act and they don't really live like that.
The fact that AL died didn't make an impact on me at all seeing as she never really struck me as an integral part of the show. They'd better get their s*** together for the next few episodes because the whole season has been going downhill. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 04, 2006, 10:17:00 PM Did the sound go out of sync on everybody else's copy?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Decky on May 04, 2006, 10:17:51 PM oh dear, not looking good for Eko is it. Looking at the preview though i wonder why they didnt show libby or mention her :winking: also i think the others situation wont be resolved this season, its too early. It will countinue for next season or maybe the main characters get captured? that could be the event that lays the foundations for season 3? whos knows
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 10:18:17 PM I was pretty disappointed with that episode. It was obvious from a mile off that Michael wasn't telling the truth. His story about the others living in tents, being dirty and no better off than them was so transparent, especially was we and the characters know that that appearance is only an act and they don't really live like that. I don't think it was ever intended for Michael NOT to appear suspicious, to be honest. The compelling thing about the episode, for me, is not WHAT michael did, or even the fact that we now know he is working with "The Others", it's the potential implications of those things on the overall plot. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Decky on May 04, 2006, 10:27:56 PM Another thing about Jacks dad, i may be onto nothing here but its the guessing game. Notice how there was alot of emphasis on Henry saying this Boss isnt forgiving? i also noticed that there was more emphasis on Jacks dad not being forgiving as he said he couldnt forgive his son so he moved away. There are some links between the two and some clues to indicate they are the same but like a said its only a guess :)
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: chip2388 on May 04, 2006, 10:30:01 PM Anyone got a link to it? i deleted my old Pm's so lost the links
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 04, 2006, 10:31:25 PM Another thing about Jacks dad, i may be onto nothing here but its the guessing game. Notice how there was alot of emphasis on Henry saying this Boss isnt forgiving? i also noticed that there was more emphasis on Jacks dad not being forgiving as he said he couldnt forgive his son so he moved away. There are some links between the two and some clues to indicate they are the same but like a said its only a guess :) Good guess, I wonder where you got that idea from!?! ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Decky on May 04, 2006, 10:34:15 PM Another thing about Jacks dad, i may be onto nothing here but its the guessing game. Notice how there was alot of emphasis on Henry saying this Boss isnt forgiving? i also noticed that there was more emphasis on Jacks dad not being forgiving as he said he couldnt forgive his son so he moved away. There are some links between the two and some clues to indicate they are the same but like a said its only a guess :) Good guess, I wonder where you got that idea from!?! ;) has it already been posted? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 04, 2006, 10:35:57 PM Another thing about Jacks dad, i may be onto nothing here but its the guessing game. Notice how there was alot of emphasis on Henry saying this Boss isnt forgiving? i also noticed that there was more emphasis on Jacks dad not being forgiving as he said he couldnt forgive his son so he moved away. There are some links between the two and some clues to indicate they are the same but like a said its only a guess :) Good guess, I wonder where you got that idea from!?! ;) has it already been posted? Thought that was an average episode, I saw what was coming a mile off, although maybe not like that, I thought A-L would try and kill Henry and Mike would hit her over the head and escape with Henry. The interview Andy posted earlier made it obvious A-L was going to die before the end of the season, although I thought it might be in the last episode. They blatantly just got rid of Libby, it almost seemed like an afterthought, I doubt they planned it. However, one good thing about this episode, it added weight to my "redemption" theory, with the "your one of the good ones, John" (or whatever Henry said) - in five years time when it's all revealed, remember where you heard it first. My new prediction is that Jack's Dad is also Claire's Dad and not only that, he's also something to do with the others, maybe even Boss Hogg!! Great minds think alike and all that. ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 10:44:15 PM I still think that Henry is "him" tbh.
I'd take a guess that Danielle will turn out to be working with "him" and the rest of the others too. In fact I'd say I'm almost 90% certain of that. It would be far more interesting for a character already introduced to be the big baddie, rather than one that they throw into the mix mid-way through season 19. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Decky on May 04, 2006, 10:46:47 PM i was thinking of Henry too but i dont think it is him i mean if it was then the others surely would have invaded the hatch in a bid to get him back
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 04, 2006, 10:47:00 PM But Jack's Dad has been introduced already.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: jwillie on May 04, 2006, 10:49:11 PM I Can't beleve we won't be seeing AL again. She's so fit. Will Michael let Henry go back to the others now on the understanding Walt will be sent back? Henry could have been lying when he sed the boss man might kill him, especially if he is the boss man.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 10:49:22 PM But Jack's Dad has been introduced already. Yeah, I know. I wasn't disputing the Jack's dad thing. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 04, 2006, 10:50:24 PM But Jack's Dad has been introduced already. Yeah, I know. I wasn't disputing the Jack's dad thing. Oh ok. ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 04, 2006, 10:53:46 PM i was thinking of Henry too but i dont think it is him i mean if it was then the others surely would have invaded the hatch in a bid to get him back He said his mission was to infiltrate the group, but not much more than that. He also said he'd failed the mission by being found out, but we already know that he's a good liar so that could be taken with a pinch of salt. His mission could actually be going EXACTLY to plan, in which case there's no reason for the other "others" to come after him. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: jwillie on May 04, 2006, 10:56:38 PM It must have something to do with Des as it's his episode. I hope he stays in it for next season... Brother. Welcome back. Cheers for the help mate! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Geordiesned on May 04, 2006, 11:31:29 PM i was thinking of Henry too but i dont think it is him i mean if it was then the others surely would have invaded the hatch in a bid to get him back He said his mission was to infiltrate the group, but not much more than that. He also said he'd failed the mission by being found out, but we already know that he's a good liar so that could be taken with a pinch of salt. His mission could actually be going EXACTLY to plan, in which case there's no reason for the other "others" to come after him. No, he said that his mission was to take Locke. I think the whole white stone/black stone thing (from early in series one) is a big part in this. They're all either white (good) or black (bad) people. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: jwillie on May 05, 2006, 09:12:35 AM So white people are good and black people are bad?!?!?
:roll: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: James on May 05, 2006, 10:07:52 AM Great episode.
As well as the dramatic ending, there were lots of coincidences, hints on what is going on, and a couple of revelations. Heres what I noticed: *SPOILERS GALORE* - Did Christian Shepherd really demand to see his daughter? I was half asleep during that bit. If he did really say that it would have to be Clare if it is anyone on the island that we know of. - Ana-Lucia has become the second woman to meet their death on the same day they had unmarried sex on the island. - Henry knew that Ana-Lucia had killed someone, yet identified Locke as one of the good ones. I'm starting to wonder if there really is some sort of experiment seeing what happenned if you put a group of killers and good people together. As it stands, Ana-Lucia, Sayid, Kate, Sawyer and Mr. Eko all killed someone before being on the island, while Charlie and Michael and Danielle have become killers. - The good ones the others have come for a Locke, Clare and Walt, as well as the children that have been taken. Perhaps the children have been taken to preserve their innocence. - Christian Shepherd called Ana-Lucia the name Sarah - same name as Jack's ex-wife who had been having an affair. - Bad things again happen to Hurley's close ones, although I'm not sure if Libby is dead, due to the small matter of the unresolved flashback storyline and the cushion. That is all I can think of right now, but this big theory has formulated in my mind. Dr. Christian Shepherd (Jack's father) is alive. He was in the coffin in the cargo hold, and caused the plane to crash on the island, before escaping to the others - his people. All the survivors were chosen by himself, his children Jack and maybe Clare, while Ana-Lucia, Sawyer, Boone and Shannon have crossed his path before, and I think there was someone else too, but I cant remember, and I suspect he will appear in more flashbacks. He chose Desmond as the man to look after the hatch, and a combination of those two probably used the islands powers to fix Sarah. The purpose of this may have been to give Jack faith, although it didn't work. When Jack is ready, I expect Christian to turn up, and attempt to persuade Jack to join them. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: James on May 05, 2006, 10:26:15 AM One more thought, lets say that the Others took Alex from Danielle before she killed her shipmates, could her story be similar to Michael's? Perhaps both of them have the sickness?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Decky on May 05, 2006, 10:31:59 AM look at the numbers on the cop cars tongue.gif
(https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4708/2679/1600/lapd.0.jpg) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 05, 2006, 11:16:02 AM i was thinking of Henry too but i dont think it is him i mean if it was then the others surely would have invaded the hatch in a bid to get him back He said his mission was to infiltrate the group, but not much more than that. He also said he'd failed the mission by being found out, but we already know that he's a good liar so that could be taken with a pinch of salt. His mission could actually be going EXACTLY to plan, in which case there's no reason for the other "others" to come after him. No, he said that his mission was to take Locke. Mind games again. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Southern Geordie on May 05, 2006, 11:59:42 AM So Jack Wasn't going crazy when he thought he saw his dad... aaaah :cool:
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Dr Spectrum on May 05, 2006, 03:03:06 PM Great episode. As well as the dramatic ending, there were lots of coincidences, hints on what is going on, and a couple of revelations. Heres what I noticed: *SPOILERS GALORE* - Did Christian Shepherd really demand to see his daughter? I was half asleep during that bit. If he did really say that it would have to be Clare if it is anyone on the island that we know of. Yes. "She's my daughter and I have every right to see her!" - The good ones the others have come for a Locke, Clare and Walt, as well as the children that have been taken. Perhaps the children have been taken to preserve their innocence. They also tried to capture Eko? But was that so he couldnt protect the rest of the survivors or because he was 'good' (religious, killed a guy so his brother didnt have too) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 05, 2006, 04:00:15 PM Thought the episode was pretty average to be honest, apart from the ending it was nothing special from what we have seen all season. Glad the hurley libby thing is over, hopfully hurley will want revenge and go off on one. Let not forget Henry cant go back to the Others as he said they would kill him, so i think this back fires on Michael. truth or lies? I still think he could be boss, or thereabouts. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 05, 2006, 04:06:00 PM Another thing about Jacks dad, i may be onto nothing here but its the guessing game. Notice how there was alot of emphasis on Henry saying this Boss isnt forgiving? i also noticed that there was more emphasis on Jacks dad not being forgiving as he said he couldnt forgive his son so he moved away. There are some links between the two and some clues to indicate they are the same but like a said its only a guess :) Jacks dad is forgiving, he forgave jack didn't he. he's weak not unforgiving. Brilliant episode by the way. two cliffhangers in one. henry apparently coming for locke (if truth) and then the micheal bit. I dont think libby is dead personally. hurley still doesn't know where he remembers her from, and wont if she dies. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 05, 2006, 08:42:06 PM The promo for next week is one of the best yet...
Hopefully the death(s) will be reacted to slightly more realistically than Shannon's was by the group, they didn't even batter an eyelid ffs. And with a bit of luck, it'll have another strong set of flashbacks for eko, to go alongside his apparent treck into the jungle with Locke (:cool:). Quite looking forward to seeing how Deran Sarafian directs it too, since his previous TV work has been very impressive. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Claypool on May 05, 2006, 10:44:46 PM How long until the next episode? Another 3 weeks?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 05, 2006, 10:48:40 PM Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Claypool on May 05, 2006, 10:52:52 PM :lol: Whoopsie, Cheers anyway mate :)
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 06, 2006, 10:37:52 AM The promo for next week is one of the best yet... Hopefully the death(s) will be reacted to slightly more realistically than Shannon's was by the group, they didn't even batter an eyelid ffs. And with a bit of luck, it'll have another strong set of flashbacks for eko, to go alongside his apparent treck into the jungle with Locke (:cool:). Quite looking forward to seeing how Deran Sarafian directs it too, since his previous TV work has been very impressive. Not as good as Darron would have done it, but it'll still be better than normal, I reckon. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 06, 2006, 12:43:36 PM Aye. At least we could have Aronofsky's episode to look forward to next year though, maybe.
If JJs back they'll have 3 very, very good producer-directors as well, and an even stronger writing team when the ex-Alias writers move over. Season three could be the strongest yet tbh. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 06, 2006, 01:07:23 PM Aye. At least we could have Aronofsky's episode to look forward to next year though, maybe. If JJs back they'll have 3 very, very good producer-directors as well, and an even stronger writing team when the ex-Alias writers move over. Season three could be the strongest yet tbh. Hope so. They better give him a good one and not waste his talents on some crappy fillerish type one. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 06, 2006, 01:37:34 PM Well "?" is supposedly a huge mythology-forwarding episode, so if they intended to use him for that, they'll probably use him for another mythology one next year, I would have thought.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 06, 2006, 01:46:41 PM Haha, I've just being watching TFTR again, and I can't stop laughing at Libby's face after she's shot.
Dunno why it's so funny, but it just is :D Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Adam^ on May 06, 2006, 04:57:47 PM Ok was an ok episode but it just dragged on only good bit was when he shot everyone. bit crap really.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: slapnuts on May 07, 2006, 01:33:30 PM Libbys eyes are massive imo.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 08, 2006, 11:04:27 PM www.thehansofoundation.org has some pretty cool stuff on it now. Few things worth trying:
- Sign up to the newsletter using any username, and enter the password "breakingstrain" when asked. - Send Joop a letter on the "joop's corner" page for some more cool stuff. - More significantly, go to the "Executive Bios" page and click on the link underneath the photo of Alvar Hanso... There's a few other things as well which I can't remember at the moment, but it's all pretty cool... Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 08, 2006, 11:19:46 PM www.thehansofoundation.org has some pretty cool stuff on it now. Few things worth trying: - Sign up to the newsletter using any username, and enter the password "breakingstrain" when asked. - Send Joop a letter on the "joop's corner" page for some more cool stuff. - More significantly, go to the "Executive Bios" page and click on the link underneath the photo of Alvar Hanso... There's a few other things as well which I can't remember at the moment, but it's all pretty cool... Either it's changed or I'm missing something. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: jimburst on May 08, 2006, 11:20:54 PM think I should get into lost then?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 08, 2006, 11:21:56 PM Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 08, 2006, 11:29:24 PM www.thehansofoundation.org has some pretty cool stuff on it now. Few things worth trying: - Sign up to the newsletter using any username, and enter the password "breakingstrain" when asked. - Send Joop a letter on the "joop's corner" page for some more cool stuff. - More significantly, go to the "Executive Bios" page and click on the link underneath the photo of Alvar Hanso... There's a few other things as well which I can't remember at the moment, but it's all pretty cool... Either it's changed or I'm missing something. Should have been more clear. The date underneath the photo (October 28th 2003) is the link. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 08, 2006, 11:30:41 PM Yep. Awful, awful show. Avoid. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 08, 2006, 11:42:46 PM www.thehansofoundation.org has some pretty cool stuff on it now. Few things worth trying: - Sign up to the newsletter using any username, and enter the password "breakingstrain" when asked. - Send Joop a letter on the "joop's corner" page for some more cool stuff. - More significantly, go to the "Executive Bios" page and click on the link underneath the photo of Alvar Hanso... There's a few other things as well which I can't remember at the moment, but it's all pretty cool... Either it's changed or I'm missing something. Should have been more clear. The date underneath the photo (October 28th 2003) is the link. Not when I click on it. :( Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 08, 2006, 11:44:43 PM Have you done all the other stuff first?
If not, do all the other stuff first. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 08, 2006, 11:46:18 PM ... And try clearing your cache too.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 08, 2006, 11:50:07 PM I had but I just cleaned my registry etc so I'm doing it again, how do you get out of the letter thing once you're there?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 08, 2006, 11:51:40 PM Can't remember.
Probably just a case of clicking on the things which are clickable until it lets you out. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 09, 2006, 12:00:39 AM Didn't notice the clickable bit before but did this time cheers.
So what do you think the significance of him not being around is? Do you reckon he's on the island? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Dave on May 09, 2006, 12:05:39 AM #Does NOT read any posts...#
Andy, please check your PM. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 09, 2006, 12:09:51 AM Didn't notice the clickable bit before but did this time cheers. So what do you think the significance of him not being around is? Do you reckon he's on the island? Possibly. Either that, or he's dead, and somebody else is in charge. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: indi on May 09, 2006, 12:13:07 AM Didn't notice the clickable bit before but did this time cheers. So what do you think the significance of him not being around is? Do you reckon he's on the island? Possibly. Either that, or he's dead, and somebody else is in charge. Jack's Dad. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 09, 2006, 12:17:35 AM Henry Gale ;)
Nah, after re-watching two for the road, I reckon it probably is Jack's dad. There was a few subtle little things he said, which seemed like they'd make sense if you were watching it in hindsight KNOWING that it was him. If that makes sense. Can't remember what they were like. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Claypool on May 09, 2006, 01:24:28 PM That hansfoundation website quality like... bit weird though lol
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Claypool on May 09, 2006, 01:30:27 PM Does anyone know the user name and password for the board of directors bit in the executive bios part?
Or the mental health part where you can type something but the connection times out? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: toonfanman on May 09, 2006, 01:48:57 PM Libby Wales on the board of directors and it doesnt have a picture for her, in the executive bios.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 09, 2006, 09:13:03 PM Libby Wales on the board of directors and it doesnt have a picture for her, in the executive bios. It says "Liddy" not "Libby" ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 20: Two for the Road* Post by: Andy on May 09, 2006, 11:19:52 PM Poll closed.
Two for the Road averaged 4.0545454545454545454545 etc. Rounds to 4 stars. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 11, 2006, 06:01:10 AM Another GREAT eko episode - on par with 23rd Psalm for me, maybe even better. I'll watch it again later before I rate it, but it's worth 4 or 5 stars definitely.
Very compelling. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: captainhaircut on May 11, 2006, 12:56:42 PM Return to a bit of mystery. I love it! 5 for me. Too tired to write anymore, time to go back to bed.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Dr Spectrum on May 11, 2006, 03:04:26 PM I thought that was the most interesting episode in a long time. So many questions. Possibly the best episode of the new series.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 11, 2006, 05:01:13 PM How could anyone only give that 3 stars ffs :D
Upon re-watching, that's without doubt the best episode in absolutely ages. So easily a 5. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: captainhaircut on May 11, 2006, 07:00:11 PM Upon reflection, the pearl orientation video is set before the swan video. Candle is younger and still has his arm, and for some reason doesn't introduce himself as Candle, uses some other name. This makes me think that the swan station was originally an experiment, but after the incident (where candle perhaps lost his arm) the swan station was converted into what it is now. The button pressing station, where the fate of the world hangs in the balance. i'm positive the button needs to be pressed. Remember Walts appearance to Shannon in Man of Science, Man of Faith- 'Push the button, Don't push the button bad' or whatever it was. Eko has the right idea!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 11, 2006, 07:05:28 PM Here's some thoughts, directly from my head to your eyes:
- The writers need to find a way to get Eko and Locke together PERMANENTLY. Maybe some weird DHARMA experiment can turn them into conjoined twins or something? The scenes between them were exactly what I've been waiting for all season. Really well done. It's interesting that Locke has basically taken a 180 degree turn from last season, and is now almost becoming a "man of science" in his reasoning. At this rate, he's right en route to becomng a (more likeable) version of Dr Crybaby. I'm sure his faith will be fully restored before the end of the season though, in some way shape or form. I liked the tie in with his dreams from Deus Ex Machina last season too. The question is; was the island (or whatever) leading him to the pearl station all along, rather than to Boone's "sacrifice" as he'd (wrongly) interpreted it? Eko has also kinda gone 180 degrees as well... Earlier in the season, he told Locke not to "mistake coincidence with faith", which is actually exactly what he was doing in this episode following his and Locke's dreams leading them to The Pearl. He's starting to get a sense of destiny, like Locke did last season, and it'll be interesting to contrast the way in which he handles it. - As for The Pearl; firstly, I don't think this is the "?" area from the map, as the episode title would have suggested. It's more likely to be the area marked "CV4". I don't know what I'm basing this on, but I think the "?" area will be something bigger altogether. The facility itself was interesting, from what we saw of it. The obvious questions raised by it are; how long has it been abandoned (or even, is it actually abandoned)? WHY was it abandoned (if it was)? Why does Doctor Marvin Candle use a different name in the orientation video? Why is there a camera monitoring a monitoring station? It's also worth noting that the screen monitoring The Swan was the only one operating, I think this will become significant later. I can also see Locke's map resurfacing at some point, probably in the place we least expect. - The logfile is interesting... I presume Locke will use it to check whether or not Henry pushed the button. Obviously, he will have, and that could be the beginining of Locke's restoration of faith. Well, either that, or it'll confuse and frustrate him further. I wonder if there'll be a recording of Michael's conversations with Walt? More significantly, I wonder if the stuff that Eko took will make reference to Michael killing libby and ana? - Eko's flashbacks were very brief, but interesting nonetheless... The psychic is back. (:cool:) But he's a fraud. Supposedly. It now seems very likely that he was working in callibration with DHARMA over the whole claire thing. Which brings up the question.... Was the miracle-girl also working with DHARMA when she approached Eko at the airport? She knew Yemi's name, and that Eko was a fake, but if the psychic could find out so much information about Claire (from DHARMA?) it's not unreasonable to think she could have been given information about Eko too. Let's face it, if eko hadn't had that conversation with her in the airport, his entire take on life on the island would be very, very different than it already is. - The ending was great. It was nice to have a more emotionally-driven end scene (only the second this season really, the other being "Collision"), followed up by Michael overlooking Ana's body and looking totally BADASS. It was appropriate that the shot went from the zoom-in on him, to end the episode on the computer, as it was him using the computer in the first place that ultimately lead to the deaths. Overall, that was a very, very strong episode. Proof if ever it were needed that action and suspense aren't needed for an episode to be utterly compelling. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 11, 2006, 07:10:29 PM Upon reflection, the pearl orientation video is set before the swan video. Candle is younger and still has his arm, and for some reason doesn't introduce himself as Candle, uses some other name. This makes me think that the swan station was originally an experiment, but after the incident (where candle perhaps lost his arm) the swan station was converted into what it is now. The button pressing station, where the fate of the world hangs in the balance. i'm positive the button needs to be pressed. Remember Walts appearance to Shannon in Man of Science, Man of Faith- 'Push the button, Don't push the button bad' or whatever it was. Eko has the right idea! That's entirely possible, and maybe even likely. There's absolutely NO CHANCE of the entire button-pushing thing being built up all season, only for it to be an experiment. Just won't happen. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: jwillie on May 11, 2006, 10:24:55 PM Excellent episode. Preview looks good for next week. What are the bets they are all looking at desmond on a jet ski. I bet we don't find out about the video's with Candle or whoever he is till the end of lost so I'm not even going to try and work it out. All i fink Pearl station is, is another experiment. The question mark place is probably where they monitor everything.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: indi on May 11, 2006, 10:45:40 PM One thing to add was did anyone notice that the "Press the Button!!" beeping alarm thing was going over the end sequence and that no-one seemed to be paying any attention, I reckon that they might not press it because they're all wrapped up in something else and this might lead to whatever the season-end cliffhanger is.
What do you lot reckon? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: ewerk on May 12, 2006, 01:07:59 AM 5/5 for me, best episode I can remember from this season.
- Eko's flashbacks were very brief, but interesting nonetheless... The psychic is back. (:cool:) But he's a fraud. Supposedly. It now seems very likely that he was working in callibration with DHARMA over the whole claire thing. I don't think he's a fraud, IMO he told Eko he was a fraud to throw him off the scent so he would get on the plane, which I believe Eko had already booked. Its seems to be fate but the pyschic seems to be genuine and was connected to both Eko and Claire getting on the plane. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: James on May 12, 2006, 10:30:22 AM Top quality episode yet again, and I cant wait to see the next one.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Geordiesned on May 12, 2006, 03:05:26 PM That was mint! :D
The ABC preview for episode 22 looks class. Especially the very last bit! bluebigeek.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 12, 2006, 03:29:47 PM link the preview?
what happened on the island to keep people in the swan station for over 20 years is the big question for me. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: gimp suit on May 12, 2006, 03:32:44 PM trailers are always on youtube several times over.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 12, 2006, 04:20:11 PM link the preview? https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x22promo-lg.zip Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: chip2388 on May 12, 2006, 07:34:06 PM Wonder what that was all about at the end of the trailer
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Geordiesned on May 12, 2006, 07:50:57 PM Wonder what that was all about at the end of the trailer Bearing in mind there's only 2 episodes left I think it might be building towards the series 2 cliffhanger. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 12, 2006, 07:53:52 PM PREVIEW SPOILERS
They seem to be looking out at either the sky or the sea... Could it be another boat/plane crash, maybe? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Geordiesned on May 12, 2006, 08:06:25 PM PREVIEW SPOILERS They seem to be looking out at either the sky or the sea... Could it be another boat/plane crash, maybe? ....or Rose and her fella (name escapes me) going at it like rabbits! :lol: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Geordiesned on May 12, 2006, 08:25:40 PM Does anyone know the user name and password for the board of directors bit in the executive bios part? Or the mental health part where you can type something but the connection times out? *BUMP* Anyone know the username/password? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 12, 2006, 08:27:16 PM No, there isn't one yet.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 12, 2006, 08:29:19 PM Awful! Who thought that?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 12, 2006, 08:34:05 PM Dunno, there's somebody who rates it awful every week.
Might stop counting their votes unless they own up. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: BooBoo on May 13, 2006, 06:47:58 PM Very good, that autopsy tape was a bit creepy!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 13, 2006, 09:19:59 PM One thing that I forgot to mention on the previous page was the reference in the orientation video to a ferry picking up the pearl's inhabitants after their period in the hatch.
Firstly, is the word "ferry" to be taken literally - as in a boat? If so, if a boat picks them up, where does it take them? Are there more islands other than this one? Does it take them back to mainland? Or is the word "ferry" just used instead of "transportation"? Perhaps a helicopter, hence the need for the circle to be seen from above? So many f****** questions. I hate this show :mad: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 13, 2006, 09:26:31 PM Also.... How do the pearl's inhabitants leave the hatch? Even Eko struggled to get the door open (and needed an axe), so how could some little geeky scientist bloke manage to do it?
Unless, of course, there never WAS any inhabitants.... Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: BooBoo on May 13, 2006, 09:28:04 PM In the Orientation viedo when the Chinese looking fella introduced the Pearl Sation there was some very brief clips of how the Pearl monitored other stations and we got a very brief glance of the back of a man in a short sleeved t-shirt. Looked very like Jack to me.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: No Quarter on May 13, 2006, 09:34:43 PM In the Orientation viedo when the Chinese looking fella introduced the Pearl Sation there was some very brief clips of how the Pearl monitored other stations and we got a very brief glance of the back of a man in a short sleeved t-shirt. Looked very like Jack to me. You mean when Locke looks away from the orientation video, over to the surveilance feed from the hatch Jack is in?Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: BooBoo on May 13, 2006, 09:39:34 PM No, in that clip i think you clearly saw Jacks face walk past the camera, but this clip only had a second long clip of the back of a man walking away from the camera.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 13, 2006, 09:43:45 PM Watch it again ;)
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: BooBoo on May 13, 2006, 09:47:17 PM Ah yes, first time round i missed Locke galncing to the other screen.
blueuhoh.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 14, 2006, 03:47:31 PM Looks like Abrams won't be coming back to the show next season:
Quote ABC has given the go-ahead to a new drama series from Lost creator J.J. Abrams. Six Degrees follows six strangers, each of whom is connected by "a mysterious web of seeming coincidence and happenstance that draws them together and changes their lives forever". https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds32920.html I'm not sure whether it's good or bad news, but at least it means lindelof and cuse will remain head writers. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 14, 2006, 04:21:14 PM And btw, that new show sounds just like the flashbacks in lost, but with a smaller cast.
JJ seems to be running a bit thin on ideas, given that M:I:3 was basically just Alias: The Movie. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Geordiesned on May 14, 2006, 04:54:30 PM I've worked out what they're all looking at at the end of the promo for the next episode. It's just a really beautiful sunset. :D
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 14, 2006, 04:56:36 PM Nah, it's this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KNY0wq3YCw *CONTAINS SPOILERS* Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Geordiesned on May 14, 2006, 05:01:48 PM Nah, it's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KNY0wq3YCw *CONTAINS SPOILERS* crylaughin.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: chip2388 on May 14, 2006, 05:04:01 PM :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: BooBoo on May 14, 2006, 05:22:24 PM bluelaugh.gif
2+2 is 4, 2+2 is 4 Hehehe, i can see why THIS is so popular! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 14, 2006, 10:53:20 PM Pole closed since it was all one-way traffic anyway.
"?" averaged an ASTOUNDING, record-smashing 4.62/5, which rounds up to 5 stars. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: No Quarter on May 14, 2006, 10:57:26 PM I gave it :5star: which means that I'm correct because I followed the crowd.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 14, 2006, 11:01:03 PM I gave it :5star: which means that I'm correct because I followed the crowd. You're a f****** sheep mate. [/NE5] Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 14, 2006, 11:18:50 PM I didn't realise we had 29 lost S2 viewers on this forum btw.
Shame only about 15 of them bother to post. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Decky on May 15, 2006, 12:06:07 AM isnt it great to watch lost using USA episodes, if we followed Channel 4 we would know what that bright light is by now as it would be in all the papers and channel 4 themselves would probably show it in their preview. I just think its great that most of us have no idea what the light is and we wont until we watch it.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Decky on May 15, 2006, 12:15:31 AM i think the numbers will count down in this episode, as it is called 3 minutes. I think the light at the end is connected to the numbers counting down and/or why the plane crashed, remember this is the second last episode so everything that happens here is building to the finale so dont rule out the numbers counting down in it.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: scum on May 15, 2006, 12:47:29 AM I didn't realise we had 29 lost S2 viewers on this forum btw. Shame only about 15 of them bother to post. I would post, but theres far too many questions to answer and get my head around, so Im just letting the second season pan out before I try to make any sense of anything. awesome show though. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Decky on May 15, 2006, 01:23:17 AM check this thread out, read all the posts
https://www.forums.thehatchonline.com/index.php?showtopic=587 Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: jwillie on May 15, 2006, 07:01:22 PM I can't make head or tail of that thread. Whats it about. I cant be arseholed to click on the link and go through a load of s***.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: BooBoo on May 15, 2006, 07:05:32 PM I've been spoiled and know what the 3 minutes of the title refers to.
I'll keep schtum though. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Geordiesned on May 15, 2006, 09:08:42 PM I've been spoiled and know what the 3 minutes of the title refers to. I'll keep schtum though. MUST ....NOT.....ASK! Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 15, 2006, 09:21:22 PM I would say that any spoilers about the next two episodes should be treat as EXTREMELY suspicious, unless they're from a very reliable source.
There's a whole load of mis-information going around which has been spread by the producers themselves. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: indi on May 15, 2006, 09:23:36 PM Laalalalalalalalalalala - I'm not listening - lalalalalalalalalalalala
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: chip2388 on May 15, 2006, 09:37:56 PM Most of the stuff i wanna say will probably sound like crap so i just like to read what people think :P
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: No Quarter on May 15, 2006, 09:50:12 PM It's another plane crashing.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 15, 2006, 09:52:34 PM Latest podcast's unofficially available now:
https://a.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_17_direct.mp3 Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 15, 2006, 09:56:51 PM As for "three minutes"... I guess the title could relate to anything really.
All I know for fact is that it's the duration of a key event, rather than a countdown or something. Whether it's in flashback or not I honestly couldn't confirm for certain. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: indi on May 15, 2006, 09:58:20 PM As for "three minutes"... I guess the title could relate to anything really. All I know for fact is that it's the duration of a key event, rather than a countdown or something. Whether it's in flashback or not I honestly couldn't confirm for certain. So Jack and Kate finally shag then? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Decky on May 15, 2006, 10:01:39 PM As for "three minutes"... I guess the title could relate to anything really. All I know for fact is that it's the duration of a key event, rather than a countdown or something. Whether it's in flashback or not I honestly couldn't confirm for certain. he may be the hero of the show but 3 minutes with kate? he aint that good mate So Jack and Kate finally shag then? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: indi on May 15, 2006, 10:03:27 PM As for "three minutes"... I guess the title could relate to anything really. All I know for fact is that it's the duration of a key event, rather than a countdown or something. Whether it's in flashback or not I honestly couldn't confirm for certain. he may be the hero of the show but 3 minutes with kate? he aint that good mate So Jack and Kate finally shag then? I thought 3 minutes was a bit too long!! Sawyer must get sloppy seconds then? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Decky on May 15, 2006, 10:25:02 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7BjT91zOY&search=Lost%2022
Canadian Preview, contains spoilers on who goes after the others and who doesnt, revives my theory that people get capture Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: colinmk on May 15, 2006, 11:47:42 PM So what is everyones overall view of this...i mean wtf is going on?? What is the island all about? Who the f**k are Dharma? there is a lot of possibilitys where it all could be going, I would like to hear some speculation :icon_salut:
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 16, 2006, 12:01:06 AM What are your theories colin?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Decky on May 16, 2006, 12:18:41 AM So what is everyones overall view of this...i mean wtf is going on?? What is the island all about? Who the f**k are Dharma? there is a lot of possibilitys where it all could be going, I would like to hear some speculation :icon_salut: goodluck reading the thread :lol: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: James on May 16, 2006, 08:50:41 AM Having rewatched episode 3 on Channel 4 last week, does anyone think that the guy behind the darkened window in the orientation video is Jack's dad?
As for the Three Minutes title, my guess, having not read any spoilers, is that it refers to the amount of time the Others permit Michael to see Walt for. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: colinmk on May 16, 2006, 09:26:00 AM What are your theories colin? At this stage I dont really believe anything strongly enough to call it a theory, however I do think that Jacks dad may have something to do with dharma. I was also thinking it was a big sort of social experiment and they are just guinea pigs but that would just be obvious. I dont understand what Michael is upto, is he under mind control? Is the guy that Henry was going on about the leader of the others? I fnd Eko and Lock the most interesting, they seem to be going on blind faith alone although why does Eko feel the need to push the button so badly, even though his brother led him to hatch # 2 in his dreams, surely the video proved that the button is just a test? :dontknow: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Chase on May 16, 2006, 11:48:55 AM OK, I've finally caught up now, about 2-3 weeks ago I'd not seen a single episode of lost and have now watched upto episode 21 of season 2.
So far I've got a few theories of my own but don't know if they conflict with any others in this thread as lets face it who could be arsed to read through 70 pages worth :D 1. the island is used for research, the dharma initiative is a research facility set up to monitor human behaviour, each of the 6 hatches that there is are all given a specific task and are monitored to carry it out, some of these tasks might be bogus (like the button, might be might not) but everyone carrying out the task believes that what they are doing is of the utmost importance (like Dr Wickman/Candle said in episode 21) but he doesn't say if they are the utmost importance just the people believe they are. 2. Walt may have been taken as he has a few unique abilities like being able to see things (locke opening the hatch before it happened and the others coming for him), also have you ever saw the kid lose a game of backgammon, he was reading a comic about a polar bear and a polar bear appears a bird dies in front of him and suddenly comes back to life, maybe it some sort of evolution maybe i've smoked too much. 3. the security system on the island (the monster) does anyone else think that it is a machine, have you noticed that when it's around them and moving it sounds like cogs moving. Those are mine and they are all probably miles away from the truth Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: James on May 16, 2006, 05:10:40 PM Here is another of my theories:
The button pressing in the Swan station is a necessity, and if it doesn't happen, something bad will happen. Henry and the Others had it set out that Locke saw the map, and that Eko had the dream, so that they would find the Pearl station - and be informed that it is all just an experiment, with the hope that they would come back, tell everyone, stop pressing the button and make the bad thing happen to themselves. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: scum on May 16, 2006, 05:58:39 PM maybe its like battle royale, that japanese movie, only they haven't told them, who ever is the last standing will win the chance to get off the island,
or maybe not tongue.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 21: ?* Post by: Andy on May 16, 2006, 11:45:44 PM Well, here’s my theories on various different things:
The Others: Although it may seem overly obvious, I think it’s more than likely that the others ARE part of the DHARMA Initiative. Their motivations are pretty difficult to predict at this stage, but it seems like they’re attempting to build a utopian society of some kind. DANIELLE will be involved with the others. In fact, she could quite possibly even be ranked above “him”, and become the show‘s big enemy figure. DESMOND, likewise, will probably be “one of them”. His story in “orientation” just didn’t add up, for me. Jack’s dad will also have links, along with various other flashback characters. DHARMA: Where do you start? The DHARMA initiative, I’d guess, was initially set-up as a psychological research organisation, who perhaps grew beyond that at some point, moving into more “dangerous“ research (such as the smoke monster and the supposed electromagnetic stuff). The button, initially, I would guess was nothing more than a mind game. But, as their researched extended into more risky territory, it became necessary to implement some sort of fail-safe to prevent catastrophic incidents occurring; and so the importance of the button actually became “real”. Why they couldn’t automate it though, I can’t figure out. Maybe the psychological research continues, alongside more critical research. Perhaps pushing the button is also test of faith, and faith is one of the requirements of a “good person”. I’d expect DHARMA have military links (hence the US Army knife), and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were in fact some kind of research branch of the US government. Area 51 anyone? The Pearl The Orientation video in the pearl was created BEFORE the button became important. The inhabitants of The Pearl were also experiments themselves; hence the need for the camera to be monitoring them. The Blast door Map: https://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg Firstly, I don't think we've been to the question mark yet. Eko and Locke were off course. It was dark, eko was following his gut. His gut lead him to the pearl (CV4 on the map; northeast of the swan). Just next to The Swan, there's a building marked "h3", I take it this is the area of the hatch that's blocked off by concrete, and not actually a seperate building. Other than that, there's a hell of a lot to take in, but not much information to really build any solid theories. As for who drew the map; it was obviously someone who was aware that he was being monitored (hence drawing it in bleach, and out of camera shot). I can only think that it was Kelvin really. The Security System (Cerberus): The security system, or “Cerberus” as it is apparently labelled on the map, is the appropriately named guardian of the most pivotal area on the island; the main residence of The Others. It’s probably some form of nano-technology. It’s possibly something different all together. It’s judgemental; it senses fear. Anybody who shows signs of fear will be killed, or at least dragged down a hole. Anybody who shows no fear, will be scanned. Why it needs to scan, I have absolutely no idea. It could, in some way, be related to the lucid dreams shared by Eko and Locke - is it co-incidence that the two people on the island to have looked into the smoke shared dreams with one another, and in Locke‘s case, dreamt from Eko‘s perspective? I’d take a wild swing that the smoke, the chains and the explosions aren’t the ONLY form of the monster either… There’s more to come. The Arrow: I can’t help but feel that the Arrow hatch will have more significance than what we’ve seen from it so far. The glass eye that the tailees found there MUST have some importance in the overall story, but I couldn‘t even begin to guess what. ------ That’s all I can think of for the time being, at this time of night. So yeah; what's going on? f*** KNOWS. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 17, 2006, 10:33:40 PM Not sure about tonight's episode.
On one hand, everything I've seen from it looks good. On the other, I realise that it's a Horowitz/Kitsis written episode, and they MASTERCLASS in "filler" - including last year's pre-finale episode "born to run". Hopefully the major scenes will be lindelof/cuse written, like in two for the road. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 17, 2006, 10:42:20 PM Oh and btw, the "Oh My God" moment from Claire and those on the beach is actually a little underwhelming, but it does lead into the finale quite well...
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 17, 2006, 10:51:24 PM Oh and btw, the "Oh My God" moment from Claire and those on the beach is actually a little underwhelming, but it does lead into the finale quite well... I've tried to get it from lost_eps, but its not there, anyone lend a hand? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 17, 2006, 10:54:17 PM It hasn't aired yet ;)
I only know about that one scene; the rest is speculation. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 17, 2006, 10:57:12 PM :oops: :oops:
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Bellars on May 18, 2006, 04:05:47 AM Not sure about tonight's episode. On one hand, everything I've seen from it looks good. On the other, I realise that it's a Horowitz/Kitsis written episode, and they MASTERCLASS in "filler" - including last year's pre-finale episode "born to run". Hopefully the major scenes will be lindelof/cuse written, like in two for the road. Purely filler episode for me, other than confirming some of the details about Michael's past 2 weeks away. Sets up great for the finale though, with the imminent 'war' with the others. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: captainhaircut on May 18, 2006, 10:51:42 AM Definately a filler episode, but a superb one at that. Walt looked considerably different so they'll have problems next season if they keep him in the show. Curious as to why they want Sawyer, Kate, Hurley and Jack. Sawyer and Kate are killers so that doesn't fit in with the good people theory, while Hurley is fat and a little crazy which is hardly what you want to be introducing to a new community. Strange list to say the least. Also, how would they have Sawyers real name? Charlie throwing away the heroin, while symbolic, was a bit stupid as another Libby situation would put it to good use. So someone's bound to die painfully at some point. Thought there might be more with Locke after last weeks episode, but I guess he'll play a large part in the finale. Close to 5 but 4 stars for me.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 18, 2006, 01:35:36 PM Yeah, I agree with captain H.
It was filler-ish, but it in the same way as Exodus Part One last year, rather than Born to Run or whatever. Good, slow paced set-up for the finale basically. 4 stars. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 18, 2006, 01:52:39 PM PS. The finale preview is utterly cum-worthy, to be blunt.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 18, 2006, 02:16:43 PM I actually enjoyed that, not amazing, but a lot better than I was expecting for a largely Michael episode.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 18, 2006, 02:53:43 PM PS. The finale preview is utterly cum-worthy, to be blunt. Where can i see it? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 18, 2006, 03:17:38 PM https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x22promo.zip
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 18, 2006, 03:21:17 PM https://www.sparklies.org/~lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x22promo.zip The requested URL /users/lisa/lost/video/eppromos/ep2x22promo.zip was not found on this server.not working:( Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 18, 2006, 03:24:33 PM Same here.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: ewerk on May 18, 2006, 04:02:40 PM Next weeks preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaPwO_Rp4MQ
The next episode has to be good, there's been too many poor episodes this season but with the return of Desmond and Henry Gale it'll hopefully be a classic. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 18, 2006, 07:32:17 PM By the way, I love the way the "oh my god" from Claire in last week's preview was for Michael arriving, rather than a plane crash or something as was being speculated :lol:
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: jwillie on May 18, 2006, 08:18:16 PM I can see Locke coming back at the end of the next episode saving the day. I'd put money on it
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: indi on May 18, 2006, 08:29:38 PM So Dessy returns in his boat then, excellent.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on May 18, 2006, 08:31:55 PM Indigo don't bother with this s****, T-Bag is the man
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: indi on May 18, 2006, 08:44:06 PM Indigo don't bother with this s****, T-Bag is the man What it's Tea Bag on the boat!?! Mikey would be better off leaving Walt where he is!! ;) Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 18, 2006, 09:34:04 PM Aww man, i'm practically wet with anticipation!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: James on May 19, 2006, 12:42:10 AM As for the Three Minutes title, my guess, having not read any spoilers, is that it refers to the amount of time the Others permit Michael to see Walt for. First (personal) Lost prediction ever to come true. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Decky on May 19, 2006, 01:05:22 AM anyone think there is someone higher than the others? that they are in a hatch doing something that they think is of the utmost importance? like curing the disease, i wouldnt be surprised if they are ginny pigs like desmond in the hatch
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: James on May 19, 2006, 10:54:52 AM I wonder what the reason is for the names on the list:
I reckon it could be that the four of them, plus Micheal and Walt occupied seats 4,8,15,16,23, and 42 on the plane. or, the others want a cooperative Locke on their side, and realise that the best possible way to piss him off would be for Jack and crew to go on yet another mission without him. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: allmo4001 on May 19, 2006, 03:46:32 PM I think the seat numbers could be right. 15 and 16 together for Walt and Micheal, and who knows about the other people. But they are all pretty low so that would point towards the front side of the plane, where all of them are from.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 19, 2006, 03:50:42 PM Have to say, I like that idea about the seat numbers.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: chip2388 on May 19, 2006, 03:55:46 PM I wonder what the reason is for the names on the list: I reckon it could be that the four of them, plus Micheal and Walt occupied seats 4,8,15,16,23, and 42 on the plane. or, the others want a cooperative Locke on their side, and realise that the best possible way to piss him off would be for Jack and crew to go on yet another mission without him. Great theory... could be some truth in it might have to watch bad a few episodes and see if i can see the seat numbers Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Bellars on May 19, 2006, 04:36:45 PM I wonder what the reason is for the names on the list: I reckon it could be that the four of them, plus Micheal and Walt occupied seats 4,8,15,16,23, and 42 on the plane. or, the others want a cooperative Locke on their side, and realise that the best possible way to piss him off would be for Jack and crew to go on yet another mission without him. https://www.blackrock.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=34 Shows a seating chart of the plane based on flashbacks and www.oceanic-air.com Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 19, 2006, 04:38:48 PM That rules that out then...
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 19, 2006, 04:44:07 PM The best link that I can think of for all those on the list is that they've all (possibly) had hallucinations on the island...
Sawyer and Kate - The horse Hurley - Dave Jack - Christian This would tie in with the walt stuff, and the questions miss klugh was asking Michael too. Of course, it doesn't explain why Sayid isn't wanted, as he's seen walt in the jungle. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 19, 2006, 04:55:07 PM Has Charlie not had hallucinations too?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 19, 2006, 04:58:54 PM I thought they were dreams, rather than hallucinations.
But yeah, the criteria's probably slightly more broad than just that, but it does tie in with the others' apparent research. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: James on May 19, 2006, 04:59:52 PM Wasn't the horse real though?
Horses could easily habitate the island, and they were able to touch it if i recall correctly. If the horse was a hallucination, it means the polar bear could be one too. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 19, 2006, 05:06:25 PM Dunno, that's why I said possibly ;)
The horse obviously could be related to zoology experiments or something, but it's strange that it was the same horse from kate's past. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 19, 2006, 06:37:36 PM Some pretty interesting news today... Michael Emerson, who plays Henry Gale, has signed a full-time contract with the show for season three - as a regular cast member.
Could this mean he isn't an "other" after all? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 19, 2006, 06:38:45 PM Maybe the Others will play a larger and more consistant role in the next series.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 19, 2006, 06:45:43 PM Being contracted as a "regular cast member" on lost means you have flashbacks and all that though; basically a main character. I really can't see them having flashbacks for any of "the others" at this stage, it would surely be too revealing?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 19, 2006, 06:47:30 PM Ah, fair enough. Although, maybe that's the next step in the process of letting us know what it's all about, the Others having their own flashbacks. That's just pure guesswork though, what you say is probably right.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Geordiesned on May 19, 2006, 07:24:27 PM https://www.thehansofoundation.org/
The picture for Hugh McIntyre in the Executive Bios has been replaced with a question mark and when you click on him you are asked to "login for press releases". Anyone know if anyone on any other sites has worked out what the password is yet? Or indeed the username or password for the access denied section in the Board of Directors bit? Has anyone noticed what the things in the pile are behind Jack in the promo for final episode? bluebigeek.gif Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Geordiesned on May 19, 2006, 07:26:50 PM If you click on Peter Thompson there is now what appears to be a word being revealed very quickly over the top of his picture. Possibly the password to access the press releases. It's a nightmare trying to work out what is being spelt out it's so quick!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: James on May 19, 2006, 07:31:11 PM Some pretty interesting news today... Michael Emerson, who plays Henry Gale, has signed a full-time contract with the show for season three - as a regular cast member. Could this mean he isn't an "other" after all? The woman described him as 'one of our own' didn't she? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Geordiesned on May 19, 2006, 07:31:23 PM I've managed to spot V, U, K and S so far.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 19, 2006, 07:37:38 PM Some pretty interesting news today... Michael Emerson, who plays Henry Gale, has signed a full-time contract with the show for season three - as a regular cast member. Could this mean he isn't an "other" after all? The woman described him as 'one of our own' didn't she? Good point. Second theory then, is that "the others" and the losties will join forces against a bigger enemy, and it will turn out that they don't have as much information about the island/DHARMA as first expected. That way, they could introduce Alex/Miss Klugh/Mr Friendly/Henry et al as regulars, without giving too much of the overall mythology away. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: indi on May 19, 2006, 07:39:15 PM I've managed to spot V, U, K and S so far. It's flash, so you can right click and zoom in, when you've done that, if you left click and hold it down you can drag the screen about, when you are moving it the letters don't change, but as soon as you stop moving they start again. This might help you work out what the word is, maybe. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: James on May 19, 2006, 07:42:23 PM Dont know if anyone has posted this yet, but... https://www.hyperionbooks.com/author.asp?ID=Troup
The book might be about Sawyer... Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Geordiesned on May 19, 2006, 07:51:11 PM Dont know if anyone has posted this yet, but... https://www.hyperionbooks.com/author.asp?ID=Troup The book might be about Sawyer... https://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/newspaper.gif Above is the link to the press release about the book. So, does the book actually exist?? Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: James on May 19, 2006, 07:54:33 PM Dont know if anyone has posted this yet, but... https://www.hyperionbooks.com/author.asp?ID=Troup The book might be about Sawyer... https://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/newspaper.gif Above is the link to the press release about the book. So, does the book actually exist?? I saw that too. There are quite a few books on that site. One is called 'Burnt Toast' by Teri Hatcher another book is written by Jim Belushi. Is this some sort of ABC feeder site perhaps? Book may be worthreading if it exists... Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 19, 2006, 07:57:17 PM The book is real, but it's not directly related to the storyline of lost. Just a spin-off.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: James on May 19, 2006, 08:05:05 PM https://www.clivebanks.co.uk/Lost/Badtwin.htm
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401302769/002-2156683-5244814?v=glance&n=283155 Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 19, 2006, 08:06:59 PM BlufPurdi is getting confused.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 19, 2006, 08:09:17 PM By what?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 19, 2006, 08:26:01 PM All these stupid books and websites offering information. Info' should come directly from the show, or no where, in my opinion.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: skryp2nit3 on May 20, 2006, 03:25:55 PM im surprised no one mentioned the incident where eko's cross appeared to be attracted by some electro magnetic force as he made his way to the computer. what do you think of this?
it pretty much ties in with the theory brought up some time ago, about how the number are entered to reset the magnetic field and the numbers being the coordinates of the island etc imo. i think now that they've revealed pretty much about the others, the sense of mystery surrounding them has evaporated and we'll probably find out more about them and why they are there next season. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: No Quarter on May 20, 2006, 04:05:16 PM We've already seen the magnetic field earlier in the series.
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 20, 2006, 05:15:17 PM Yeah.
I'd guess, based on the pretty blatant reminder, that it's going to be explored in the next episode. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 20, 2006, 10:13:19 PM Schedule confirmation for next season:
Quote ABC has released its fall schedule for the 2006-2007 season, and it seems that executives have listened to complaints from fans of the show. Lost will not be airing reruns for its third season. The show will air seven new episodes consecutively in the Fall (late September or early October) in its current time slot, then will be replaced by a new thriller starring Taye Diggs, Day Break. Lost will then return to its home in February, airing all new episodes until the season ends in May. Not too bad... Episode 7 will have a MASSIVE season finale-esque cliffhanger, no doubt. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 21, 2006, 05:08:51 PM Pole closed slightly earlier than normal.
Three minutes scored a pretty harsh 3.14 out of 5, which is SOMEHOW lower than "The Whole Truth" and "S.O.S" managed. 3 stars, anyway. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 22, 2006, 01:55:48 PM Extended preview here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4bc_OYtlmI&search=lost%20finale%20season%20preview%20promo%20trailer%20abc This is going to be f****** awesome tbh. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Claypool on May 22, 2006, 02:15:05 PM Excited as f*** tbh.. :dancing:
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BooBoo on May 22, 2006, 06:38:16 PM Looks like I missed the poll for marks out of 5 for "Three Minutes". No matter, i enjoyed it, would have given 4/5 and bubbling up nicely for the last hurrah. Loved the bit were Walt shouted "they're just pretending!". Clearly this tents, beards and spears malarkey is simply hiding something a good deal more sinister.
Glad to see that it appears the finale will see a return from the security system. Only a few appearances (albeit one huge one) this season. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Decky on May 22, 2006, 06:49:25 PM seen the new preview last night and loved it, here is what i think happens
Locke convinces Desmond that the numbers mean nothing and Desmond uses a key to start a lock down which keeps Eko away from the computer, he then returns to the camp and gets Charlie, they return to the hatch and try and find a way back into the computer room where Locke and Desmond watch the clock count down. Watch that preview having read what i just said and you might see it. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: BooBoo on May 22, 2006, 07:16:47 PM Theres no doubt in mind, that when the timer runs down this time, there will be a whole can of nasty worms unleashed upon the Lostaways!
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Apisith on May 24, 2006, 02:11:14 PM Does anyone else think that Alex is the girl who was in Malcolm in the Middle? I think she appeared in quite a few epis and in one epi, after returning from Europe, she tried to hide the fact that she had big breasts :lol: I remember Reese concocting a ploy to 'touch' it :lol:
PS. Sorry for going off on a new tangent. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 24, 2006, 02:28:03 PM Does anyone else think that Alex is the girl who was in Malcolm in the Middle? I think she appeared in quite a few epis and in one epi, after returning from Europe, she tried to hide the fact that she had big breasts :lol: I remember Reese concocting a ploy to 'touch' it :lol: PS. Sorry for going off on a new tangent. Ross Noble-tastic to be honest :celb: Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: captainhaircut on May 24, 2006, 06:28:26 PM Does anyone else think that Alex is the girl who was in Malcolm in the Middle? I think she appeared in quite a few epis and in one epi, after returning from Europe, she tried to hide the fact that she had big breasts :lol: I remember Reese concocting a ploy to 'touch' it :lol: PS. Sorry for going off on a new tangent. It is the same girl. Back to posts about tomorrows finale now. Think my head could explode with excitement. Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: jwillie on May 24, 2006, 06:55:50 PM Is it not tonight?
Title: Re: LOST Season Two - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Episode 22: Three Minutes* Post by: Andy on May 24, 2006, 07:07:06 PM yes.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: James on May 24, 2006, 07:48:40 PM Two preparatory questions:
1) Does this episode take the form of two 45 minute episodes like 24 this week or Exodus last season, or is it just one episode, no credits in between? 2) if I wanted to set my alarm for the early hours of this morning to make my wait as short as possible, what time would it need to be (bearing in mind the answer to 1)? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: Andy on May 24, 2006, 07:59:24 PM 1) It's just one 90 minute episode this time round.
2) I'd imagine it'll be available by half five at the latest. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: James on May 24, 2006, 08:09:48 PM Thanks Andy, I reckon, that as I live with the computer in my room, I can sleepwalk and make it download. Should be ready by 2pm then.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: CaliMag on May 24, 2006, 08:33:35 PM Greetings all...
Never contributed to this thread before, but here goes with a couple of additional speculations for you all to ponder: Ana Lucia was hired by Jack's dad to do police work on Claire and her family. He needed an ex-cop for this type of help. Jack's dad finds out about the psychic and offers him big money to get Clair on the plane to LAX to be with the Shepherds rather than give up the baby to adoption - could be because Dr. Shepherd is actually working for Dharma or it could be that he is playing the role of concerned grandparent that has f***** up (and trying to make it right) either way it makes sense that he would want her on the plane still pregnant. Also whether or not the psychic is real doesn't impact the pay-off theory. Claire was surprised that the psychic contatced her... how did he do that? Well because Dr. Shepherd (or Ana-Lucia) gave him the info and a big amount of cash to pressure her to move to LA. This money and his compromise is what him and his wife were fighting about. And again would not matter if he was a fake or not. Now that Ana-Lucia is dead it will have to wait until later. Also if Jack's dad is alive Ana-Lucia was involved. Ana-Lucia also knew about Jack and his dad - she was working for him and she heard Jack yell at the airline worker about his need to bury him. Also the best dialog writer in the show is David Fury and its his episodes that make the most sense characterwise - this last tidbit is fact rather than specualtion though... :winking: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: Andy on May 24, 2006, 08:49:32 PM Also the best dialog writer in the show is David Fury and its his episodes that make the most sense characterwise - this last tidbit is fact rather than specualtion though... :winking: I find David Fury a bit hit/miss. His writing for the show in season one was excellent, but he's shown his limitations since he move to 24 at the end of last season. I think the nature of lost suited him far more, and it would be great if he'd come back. "Walkabout" and "Numbers" really typified him as a writer. If we're talking character development wise though, the best writer to script for the show so far in my opinion is Drew Goddard (who wrote "outlaws" in season one). He's returning next season full-time, I believe, which is fantastic news. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: BooBoo on May 24, 2006, 08:58:32 PM My favourite character/ dialogue scene (as opposed to action or shocking reveal scene) in series two is when Henry confesses to Locke that he never pushed the button. His delevery is brilliant,
"It sounded like a magnet, a big magnet powering up. It was really quite frightening." Top Characters of Series 2 so far 3. Zeke 2. Eko 1. Henry Crap Characters of Series 2 so far: 3. Sun 2. Ana Lucia 1. Charlie. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 24, 2006, 09:40:54 PM 1) It's just one 90 minute episode this time round. 2) I'd imagine it'll be available by half five at the latest. In the AM? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 24, 2006, 09:44:43 PM Yeah, AM.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Decky on May 25, 2006, 05:57:53 AM isnt there an episode 24? i thought tonights episodes where two together rather than a 90minute one. Ive episode 23 on my comp (not watchable yet) and its roughly 350mb, the same as all the 45 minute episodes. I await the arrival of a 24th episode any minute now
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Decky on May 25, 2006, 06:00:47 AM yeah there it is, a 24th episode, im not sure if it is an official 24th episode is it? or just the 90mins split in half
could be Live Together Die Alone parts 1 and 2 Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: indi on May 25, 2006, 07:45:05 AM If you've got eps 23 & 24 then they've split it into two files.
Has anyone got a decent link to the whole thing yet? I can't seem to find one at the moment. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: indi on May 25, 2006, 08:05:43 AM Alright I've got one, but I could go to Hawaii and film the thing myself faster than it's going at the moment!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrr. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Apisith on May 25, 2006, 08:23:19 AM Can you PM me the torrent? Thanks mate.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 25, 2006, 09:11:57 AM I've just watched part one - good stuff.
Part 2's about 50 minutes away, not enough seeders. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Gemmill on May 25, 2006, 09:50:21 AM Another anti-climax perchance? bluebigrazz.gif
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 25, 2006, 10:59:39 AM Fantastic episode, though the ending was underwhelming. A cliffhanger like last year would have been a lot better.
Probably just about 5 stars, but it's not the answer-everything affair it was built up to be. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 25, 2006, 01:04:08 PM Downloading the 700mb torrent now, but it's slow.
Anyone got a better link, please!? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: ricster2000 on May 25, 2006, 01:32:06 PM I thought the 700mb torrent was pretty fast, i was downloading at 300+KB/s.
Anyway, i thought the episode was awesome. It answered a lot of the major questions, but left some to be answered in the next season (hopefully). As much as i hate waiting for answers to be revealed, it makes the show infinitely more enjoyable when everything is finally pieced together. Now we have to wait until October for the next season, the World Cup will tide us over till then ;) Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: captainhaircut on May 25, 2006, 02:10:20 PM Fantastic as always. Raised more questions, rather than providing answers. 5 for me. Will hash out the episode at a later date.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Geordiesned on May 25, 2006, 02:27:07 PM I'll not be watching this until Sunday the speed it's downloading! Only 5 out of 752 seeding!!! blueupset.gif
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Ally on May 25, 2006, 05:02:18 PM Thought episode 24 was outstanding aswell, there were so many 'ahhh right' moments it all just seemed to fit in. Ending wasn't great with Penny but its still enough to get my gagging for Series 3:
Where are they? What are the others going to do with Jack and co? What exactly did 'Henry' mean by "we're the good guys"? Hmm. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: skryp2nit3 on May 25, 2006, 06:01:36 PM fantastic finale, cant wait for next season :thup:
whatever happened to the swan? desmond, eko and locke... what happens when the system is shut down? what's the purpose of the others? how are they gonna deal with jack kate and sawyer? henry is their leader? :confused: what were the eskimos/russians/toads doing, 'i think we found it', seems like pene was tryin to locate desmond. so many questions its doing my head in! blueupset.gif and hopefully that's the last we've seen of michael although locke has replaced him as the hate figure of late oh and something worth mentioning, for the first time, we've progressed outside the island in real time and not flashbacks. so we're probably gonna see more action outside the island next season. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: indi on May 25, 2006, 07:30:19 PM Wow.
Can't think of anything else to say, too much information, brain overload, help. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: indi on May 25, 2006, 07:37:06 PM Ok the only thing that has come to mind is: why have a computer running off magnetic tape right next to f****** huge magnet?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 25, 2006, 07:39:11 PM Frustrating but ultimatley class episode :thup:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 25, 2006, 09:38:30 PM If anyone wants a decent read about the finale, take a look at this review:
https://www.entil2001.com/series/lost/season2/lost2-23.html Basically agree with every single word. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Geordiesned on May 25, 2006, 10:08:38 PM Only 8 minutes in but who'd have thought - Jim Robinson! First 24 and now Lost! tongue.gif
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Geordiesned on May 25, 2006, 11:35:31 PM Stunning and left me gagging for more!
Not enough time to go over everything but the Desmond/Libby meeting was very very interesting. You could say that she played a part in both Hurley and Desmond being on the island. A DHARMA employee perhaps? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 25, 2006, 11:40:05 PM Stunning and left me gagging for more! Not enough time to go over everything but the Desmond/Libby meeting was very very interesting. You could say that she played a part in both Hurley and Desmond being on the island. A DHARMA employee perhaps? That link was fast as, wasn't it! Season Three couldn't come quick enough for me. That will be the end for Michael and Walt imo, can't see them being a major or even substantial part of season three. Walt looks old now, they will scre up the continuity of they cast him again. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: gimp suit on May 25, 2006, 11:48:10 PM just off the top of my head, as it was sort of something towards the end - charlie seemed very weird after the blast. where was he when it happened? why was he being so sarcastic? does he really not know where locke and eko are, and why did did he expect them to already be back? was there even a "blast" at all. all we saw was there was definitely light everywhere and some soundwaves that nobody seemed to like.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 25, 2006, 11:50:46 PM just off the top of my head, as it was sort of something towards the end - charlie seemed very weird after the blast. where was he when it happened? why was he being so sarcastic? does he really not know where locke and eko are, and did he really expect them to be back? Electromagnetism can potentially f*** up your brain at high-exposure, so I guess his behaviour could have been inspired by that.Otherwise, I couldn't even hazard a guess. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: Andy on May 25, 2006, 11:52:03 PM By the way, did anyone else initially think that the end scene was a beer commercial or something?
Maybe it was just me, but I nearly stopped watching thinking that I had a dodgy download or something :lol: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: gimp suit on May 26, 2006, 12:00:52 AM it DID come as a shock to me but once i realised it was part of the show, i thought "plane crash" straight away.
i was thinking that every time the buitton hasn't been pressed, it's caused some sort of plane crash/shipwreck, which is why the others didnt seem THAT surprised by it (in my opinion). Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: chip2388 on May 26, 2006, 12:40:18 AM Great double episode ending could have been better though
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Jonny2J on May 26, 2006, 12:45:12 AM Only 8 minutes in but who'd have thought - Jim Robinson! First 24 and now Lost! tongue.gif The OC & X-Files too! Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Decky on May 26, 2006, 01:29:00 AM im surprised no one has mentioned the HUGE statue with 4 toes
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: James on May 26, 2006, 09:52:04 AM great episode :5star:
The one word I'm thinking, which the writers may be wanting us to think, is Atlantis. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 26, 2006, 11:03:07 AM Regarding the computer, now that its broken beyond repair, and they had to turn the key to stop the electromagnets, does that mean they have to keep turning the key when there is the 'clock' runs down, or is that well and truly over?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 26, 2006, 11:30:17 AM Oh, and the computer can't be that important, because why would the 'others' leave it to the jack/locke/Ecko or even Desmond to take care of. They must know what it does, if it does anything, because Gale looked like he knew what was happening.
So if it was life or death, the others would surely of set up camp in and around the hatch to regulate the numbers. Do they have another computer station linked up to the electomagnestism? Oh, and anyone remember the Dharma shark? blueyes.gif Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Ally on May 26, 2006, 02:10:57 PM By the way, did anyone else initially think that the end scene was a beer commercial or something? Maybe it was just me, but I nearly stopped watching thinking that I had a dodgy download or something :lol: :lol: Exactly what I did! Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 26, 2006, 02:12:39 PM i think they are implying that the hatch is gone order. if eko's gone though, i may have to stop watching all together.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: ewerk on May 26, 2006, 02:57:45 PM More and more f****** questions!
I think we'll see Eko and Locke again, anyone know if they've signed up for the next series? I doubt that Michael and Walt have been let free, the Others can't afford to let them find civilisation. It may have been a front to show Jack, Sawyer and Kate that they're reasonable people and will stick to their word. I don't think they're finished with Walt yet. Also Henry Gale seems too clever to have been caught in a net, Rosseau must've been colluding with him in order to infiltrate their camp. If the Others had've wanted him back they could easily have done so without having to rely on Michael. Is it the end of Desmond? Why was he seeming sent there by Jim Daniels? It would've been much easier to have him whacked than to go to all the trouble he appears to have done to get him on the island. I was slightly disappointed in the finale. I wanted to know exactly who the Others were, judging by what Walt said in 3 minutes I don't think they're the "good guys" as Henry Gale says. Why were they not pissed off that Sawyer killed one of them? They seemed to be fairly pissed off when Ana Lucia shot one of them. Too many questions!!! Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 26, 2006, 04:20:18 PM i think they are implying that the hatch is gone order. if eko's gone though, i may have to stop watching all together. More chance of Locke dying than eko, seriously. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: indi on May 26, 2006, 04:33:15 PM Only 8 minutes in but who'd have thought - Jim Robinson! First 24 and now Lost! tongue.gif :lol: I was trying to work out who he was for absolutely ages, it was doing my nut in, for some reason I wanted to think he was Charlie out of Casualty, even though I knew it wasn't him!! Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: indi on May 26, 2006, 04:40:06 PM By the way, did anyone else initially think that the end scene was a beer commercial or something? Maybe it was just me, but I nearly stopped watching thinking that I had a dodgy download or something :lol: Bizarre!! That's exactly what I though it was. What I want to know is why do I recognise the two (spanish?) blokes in the cabin? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 26, 2006, 06:00:10 PM By the way, did anyone else initially think that the end scene was a beer commercial or something? Maybe it was just me, but I nearly stopped watching thinking that I had a dodgy download or something :lol: Bizarre!! That's exactly what I though it was. What I want to know is why do I recognise the two (spanish?) blokes in the cabin? Dunno, but one of them looked a bit like Jack. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: indi on May 26, 2006, 06:03:25 PM By the way, did anyone else initially think that the end scene was a beer commercial or something? Maybe it was just me, but I nearly stopped watching thinking that I had a dodgy download or something :lol: Bizarre!! That's exactly what I though it was. What I want to know is why do I recognise the two (spanish?) blokes in the cabin? Dunno, but one of them looked a bit like Jack. One of them looked a bit like Goran Ivanisevic, and the other one (with glasses) was really familiar as well. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 26, 2006, 06:07:53 PM Oh!
When team Jack are attacked by tazers in the jungle, the whispers were saying Elizabeth. Can anyone confirm that, to assure me im not insane :thup: edit. DEFINATLY SAYS ELIZABETH! After all Libby gave Desmond the boat! She was working for that bloke all along? Is she an OTHER? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Geordiesned on May 26, 2006, 06:45:00 PM Stunning and left me gagging for more! Not enough time to go over everything but the Desmond/Libby meeting was very very interesting. You could say that she played a part in both Hurley and Desmond being on the island. A DHARMA employee perhaps? That link was fast as, wasn't it! Season Three couldn't come quick enough for me. That will be the end for Michael and Walt imo, can't see them being a major or even substantial part of season three. Walt looks old now, they will scre up the continuity of they cast him again. Certainly was! Cheers again mate. :D Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Geordiesned on May 26, 2006, 06:51:34 PM Also Henry Gale seems too clever to have been caught in a net, Rosseau must've been colluding with him in order to infiltrate their camp. If the Others had've wanted him back they could easily have done so without having to rely on Michael. He probably deliberately got caught in the net to help him infiltrate the group. I don't think the French chick is working with the "others"; the sneaky little devils probably spied on her when she was setting them all. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: Andy on May 26, 2006, 07:14:46 PM Also Henry Gale seems too clever to have been caught in a net, Rosseau must've been colluding with him in order to infiltrate their camp.. I can just see it now... Danielle: "Okay 'enry, i 'ave a plan" Henry: "Go on......" Danielle: "I will put you in a net, and bring one of them to you. I will then let him cut you down, causing a painful drop to the ground, and as you run away, shoot you in the shoulder with an arrow" Henry: "........................................." Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 26, 2006, 07:22:20 PM Oh! When team Jack are attacked by tazers in the jungle, the whispers were saying Elizabeth. Can anyone confirm that, to assure me im not insane :thup: edit. DEFINATLY SAYS ELIZABETH! After all Libby gave Desmond the boat! She was working for that bloke all along? Is she an OTHER? Anyone double checked this for me yet? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: CaliMag on May 26, 2006, 07:28:27 PM Oh! When team Jack are attacked by tazers in the jungle, the whispers were saying Elizabeth. Can anyone confirm that, to assure me im not insane :thup: edit. DEFINATLY SAYS ELIZABETH! After all Libby gave Desmond the boat! She was working for that bloke all along? Is she an OTHER? Anyone double checked this for me yet? Yes it says Elizabeth Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alon Post by: CaliMag on May 26, 2006, 07:31:08 PM Those Arctic researchers watching electro-magnetic radiation - they are defo NOT Spanish (I know some). They were speaking a Slavic language - anyone here know if its Russian?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 26, 2006, 07:32:06 PM Those Arctic researchers watching electro-magnetic radiation - they are defo NOT Spanish (I know some). They were speaking a Slavic language - anyone here know if its Russian? Portuguese. Possibly Brazilian. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 26, 2006, 07:46:49 PM Those Arctic researchers watching electro-magnetic radiation - they are defo NOT Spanish (I know some). They were speaking a Slavic language - anyone here know if its Russian? Portuguese. Possibly Brazilian. It's actually Yakastan-ian. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Adam^ on May 26, 2006, 08:21:32 PM Ok im very confused
Statue with 4 toes WTF ? Crazy russians playin chess - then finding the electro magent thing :o - I thought it was another Dharma Station Loke eko etc are they dead or what ? The white light - i thought a nuke had gone off at first but im still no sure exactly what happened im guessing there was a huge electromagnetic discharge of somesort. Sihad etc - Where are they what are they doing Walt - what willh apen to him jack etc what will happen to them ? An most importantly - when does the next season start ? Title: lost season 3 ***spoilers*** prediction thread Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 26, 2006, 08:31:03 PM i thought it would be fun to have a prediction thread for the next season (i use the term fun loosely).
feel free to merge with season 2 if you wish although if you delete this andy i will hunt you down, as i know this'll take me the next half an hour to write. i haven't read the season 2 thread since my post to new order, saying the hatch blew up, so this may be revised if you've posted anything in there that could change my mind (i now know i am gravely mistaken). well i think it starts like this.... we start in the same place as we were at the end of season 1/ start of season 2. looking down at the hatch. this time we can see the surrounding trees etc.. and its like a hurricane type thingy. we then see the hatch door with quarenteen fly off (thus proving that there is no explosion. we then pan down the tunnel of the hatch (at the end of season 1 we went down, we went up in the start of season 2, and now well go down again at the start of season 3) and after around a min of looking around the hatch were faced with locke and eko staring at each other, and locke saying "i'm sorry". we then go to charlie (we dont know what happened to him after the apology till he rambles up to the beach. after a while (not sure how long) we see a lot of light everywhere and then it calms down. charlie after about 30 seconds or so (he was knocked to the floor) goes into the computer room to see locke and eko acting suspiciously (not in a bad way, just secretive) (desmond may or may not be alive). charlie senses something, and says "whats up" and eko replies "it does not concern you" or "do nat worry" or words to that effect. Locke and eko then leave (with or without desmond, depending on his status as alive or dead). we then follow charlie up until the claire kiss, and then the words lost go to the screen cue adbreak. we then go to either the north/south pole (or any other snowy place), london or most likely to the others with jack etc... (i dont think we'll see the reprecussions of the pen incident till around 7/8, just before we find out what locke and eko had found out after the light to make them prance off into the jungle). we then just generally have a quiet episode switching between the others and the beach. I think we'll find out where locke and eko (and desmond maybe) ran off to around episode 10 (minimum 9, max 15) as its going to be even more important than "the other 28 days" episode, but will be on the same lines (maybe the ep before will be an episode like the one where mike returns. i think what they will be doing will be tied in with the experiments (maybe phase 2 of the hatch experiment) and will be related to "the bad guys" as opposed to "the good guys". Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Discussion up to Season Two Finale: Live Together, Die Alone* Post by: Andy on May 26, 2006, 08:40:34 PM Keep season 3 speculation/build-up in here for the time being. I can't be f***** with flicking beween 2 threads, posting basically the same things in each.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion* Post by: Andy on May 26, 2006, 08:48:37 PM PS. It'll start off with a black screen, with lots of commotion in the background. After a minute or two, the bag is ripped of Jack's head, and he's in some kind of negotiation room. After a bit of chatter with Henry, we get a big-massive reveal, followed by the opening credits.
Eko and Locke are trapped inside the hatch. Both alive. We think desmond is dead for most of the episode, but he ends up saving them. Bookmark this post ;) Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Adam^ on May 26, 2006, 09:28:27 PM Season 3 starts with a huge plane crashing in to the island :icon_rr:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on May 26, 2006, 09:50:43 PM The entire first episode of season 3 will not be based on the island.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: ewerk on May 26, 2006, 10:56:27 PM Also Henry Gale seems too clever to have been caught in a net, Rosseau must've been colluding with him in order to infiltrate their camp. If the Others had've wanted him back they could easily have done so without having to rely on Michael. He probably deliberately got caught in the net to help him infiltrate the group. I don't think the French chick is working with the "others"; the sneaky little devils probably spied on her when she was setting them all. Why then did Rosseau hand him over to Sayid? We've already seen that she is more than capable of capturing and torturing a grown man. Why the need to do differently with this one? Was any explanation given in that episode? Its seems strange to me that Rosseau wouldn't have recognised the leader of the Others, I think she's clever enough. If the Others really have let Walt and Michael go then they mightn't have denied Rosseau access to Alex, I still think she could be an Other. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 26, 2006, 11:03:28 PM There's definitely SOMETHING up with Danielle....
In season one, she said she'd never seen "the others" before - only heard them; so how was she able to identify Henry as "one of them" so easily? Also... She's been on the island over 16 years, yet said in Exodus that she'd seen "nothing like" the hatch. We know that there's at least six of those stations on the island, so I find it hard to believe she's never seen one of them before, or ever heard of the name "DHARMA". Her stories just don't add up. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on May 26, 2006, 11:19:28 PM I'm really hoping that we see some more of Danielle next season, one of the most interesting characters and one of the best actors as well.
Also, hope we haven't seen the last of Dessie boy either. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 27, 2006, 10:18:05 AM Very enjoyable pair of episodes. A definite 5/5 for me. For the second part, i found a torrent that downloaded in a record breaking (for me) twenty minutes. Anyhoo, here's some general ramblings:
- Has nobody mentioned the bizarre looking green bird that swooped out of the jungle over Jack and co's heads? Seemed strange. - Desmond said the world was now a snow globe, with only an island and the ocean. Its more likely that the compass on his boat was warped by the islands electromagnetism just like Sayids, so the navigation brought him in a circle. Surely the final scene in the Arctic (?) disproves this anyway. - Kelvin is seen drawing the island map. 1) How did he know so much about the other stations. 2) Why draw it in invisible ink? - Henry seems to be high up in The Others heirarchy. Is this why he said "He's no-one, NOTHING" when in a previous episode Ana Lucia incorrectly guessed that Zeke was in charge. - I think Henrys gang are a different group to the real feral others who preyed upon the tail section survivors and were seen by Eko and Michael trekking barefoot. As Henry said "we're the good guys". I agree with previous posters that say Henrys group want Jacks group to form an alliance against the real hostiles. - Why did the pneumatic tubes drop their books in the middle of the jungle? Is it that the claim that the Pearl station is a viewing station just a cover and that it is actually the Pearl Sation that is being observed- after all there was a CCTV camera in there? -Desmond has already witnessed a near disaster with a "System Failure". Why does he initially seem willing to go along with Lockes plan to overthrow Eko and allow the timer to run down to zero, if he knows what could/ will happen? - If the System Failure had brought down a 747 form thousand of feet up in the sky, surely it would have destroyed everything within the hatch? - Is the "sickness" a psychological fraud to keep people snooping round the island (and inside the hatch) or is it a side effect of the islands huge electromagnetic power? - The four toed statue? - What did Henrys group want with Walt and why are they now so willing to let him go? I honestly wouldnt be too bothered to see the back of Michael and Walt but i do think they will return next season at some point. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 27, 2006, 11:25:28 AM Very enjoyable pair of episodes. A definite 5/5 for me. For the second part, i found a torrent that downloaded in a record breaking (for me) twenty minutes. Anyhoo, here's some general ramblings: lucky you - Has nobody mentioned the bizarre looking green bird that swooped out of the jungle over Jack and co's heads? Seemed strange. we've seen an eagle like it before. It wasn't too strange - Desmond said the world was now a snow globe, with only an island and the ocean. Its more likely that the compass on his boat was warped by the islands electromagnetism just like Sayids, so the navigation brought him in a circle. Surely the final scene in the Arctic (?) disproves this anyway. i dont think many took him seriously about there being no world. He was wacked when they found him, as for the compass, i took that as obvious - Kelvin is seen drawing the island map. 1) How did he know so much about the other stations. 2) Why draw it in invisible ink? how and why indeed? - Henry seems to be high up in The Others heirarchy. Is this why he said "He's no-one, NOTHING" when in a previous episode Ana Lucia incorrectly guessed that Zeke was in charge. probably - I think Henrys gang are a different group to the real feral others who preyed upon the tail section survivors and were seen by Eko and Michael trekking barefoot. As Henry said "we're the good guys". I agree with previous posters that say Henrys group want Jacks group to form an alliance against the real hostiles. i think thats an increasing possability now, although the two people who infiltrated the others camp were from these guys, and henry/zeke said that they had killed two of us good people. were these refering to goodwin and the other one, or the guys eko killed. henry also said anna had killed one of them, and she had killed an other trying to steal their group. The list with 9 names on is also similar to the list with the 4 names mcheal had to get. eko also seemed to think he'd repented when talking to henry and cutting the two men off of his beard - Why did the pneumatic tubes drop their books in the middle of the jungle? Is it that the claim that the Pearl station is a viewing station just a cover and that it is actually the Pearl Sation that is being observed- after all there was a CCTV camera in there? yep. -Desmond has already witnessed a near disaster with a "System Failure". Why does he initially seem willing to go along with Lockes plan to overthrow Eko and allow the timer to run down to zero, if he knows what could/ will happen? thats spooky. maybe he thought that thats all that happened, after all, the day he brought down the plane he didn't realise how much damaged he'd caused till 19 minutes till the counter got to zero. Maybe he thought that a swirling windy type thing was all there was. - If the System Failure had brought down a 747 form thousand of feet up in the sky, surely it would have destroyed everything within the hatch? dunno - Is the "sickness" a psychological fraud to keep people snooping round the island (and inside the hatch) or is it a side effect of the islands huge electromagnetic power? that is a weird thing that is - The four toed statue? agreed, wtf? also why does sayid seem to think 4 toes is just as worthy questioning as the fact that only the knee is left??? - What did Henrys group want with Walt and why are they now so willing to let him go? I honestly wouldnt be too bothered to see the back of Michael and Walt but i do think they will return next season at some point. that is a question. what i want to know most is what will happen to the numbers now? will they still be broadcasting (probably not), and how were they broadcast? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: James on May 27, 2006, 11:57:05 AM With the statue, and the Others interest in kids, I'm starting to wonder if the island is Atlantis (or at least, the Others think it is).
Certainly, some theories state that Atlantis was inhabited by children with eternal youth. The Others could be trying to tap into the island's power to do this, after all, isn't one of the objectives of the Hanso Foundation to discover a cure for old age? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on May 27, 2006, 12:05:37 PM I'm thinking there might be some similarities to the The Philadelphia Experiment.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 27, 2006, 12:11:02 PM I'm thinking there might be some similarities to the The Philadelphia Experiment. paedaphillia? bluebigeek.gif Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on May 27, 2006, 12:13:49 PM I'm thinking there might be some similarities to the The Philadelphia Experiment. paedaphillia? bluebigeek.gif You might be right. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 27, 2006, 02:10:40 PM Has nobody mentioned the bizarre looking green bird that swooped out of the jungle over Jack and co's heads? Seemed strange. We saw it in Exodus last year too. Only bird on the island, apparently. Quote - Kelvin is seen drawing the island map. 1) How did he know so much about the other stations. 2) Why draw it in invisible ink? 1) Dunno. Possibly from Radzinski (his partner), and his regular trecks around the island. 2) To prevent the cameras from seeing it? Quote Henry seems to be high up in The Others heirarchy. Is this why he said "He's no-one, NOTHING" when in a previous episode Ana Lucia incorrectly guessed that Zeke was in charge. Probably. I thought the twist with Henry was pretty obvious though; being saying it in here for weeks. Still not sure whether or not he's "him" however - that could in fact be Widmore. Quote Why did the pneumatic tubes drop their books in the middle of the jungle? Is it that the claim that the Pearl station is a viewing station just a cover and that it is actually the Pearl Sation that is being observed- after all there was a CCTV camera in there? Yeah. The pearl was the psychological experiment; the swan, for the most, was the real deal. Quote If the System Failure had brought down a 747 form thousand of feet up in the sky, surely it would have destroyed everything within the hatch? The hatch seemed pretty well cemented when Jack and Sayid were exploring earlier in the season, perhaps that reduced the impact of the magnet within the hatch, but didn't have any protection for the outside world.Who knows. Quote Is the "sickness" a psychological fraud to keep people snooping round the island (and inside the hatch)? That's possible, but it doesn't explain ethan injecting claire and her baby with it in "maternity leave". Quote What did Henrys group want with Walt and why are they now so willing to let him go? I honestly wouldnt be too bothered to see the back of Michael and Walt but i do think they will return next season at some point. Perhaps they were simply finished with him; they had no more tests. The real question for me is... Why didn't they just take Saywer, Jack and Kate in "The Hunting Party" when they'd disarmed them - what's changed since then? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 27, 2006, 05:25:30 PM Some very interesting things in the finale wrap-up podcast. Most importantly, the fact that we HAVE seen the monster more than once this season, but one of the times we didn't realise it. I'm thinking this might be the horse, maybe?
They also say that Season three will be more character driven than season two, like the first season, and will concentrate less on the overall mythology. They've brought in a few character exploration specialists (like Drew Goddard, who wrote "Outlaws" in season one), so i suppose this makes sense. Finally, they say we WILL know why Locke was in a wheelchair by the end of the season, and they also hint pretty strongly that Desmond isn't dead; saying it would "suck" if they killed him off after investing two hours in the character. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 27, 2006, 06:04:30 PM well andy if des isn't dead then it follows that locke and eko aren't either. I think that indigo's theory could well be right thinking about it, and the first (or first few) episode could take place entirely off the island. It could start at the plane crash, thus showing what had been happening in the outside world during that time, but i think that that is too much info, especially if this new season will be character driven, so it could just show the widmores after plane crash or some s****. I'm also not sure if des will go with locke and eko as in my theory like i thought. locke and eko go good together, des may be the odd one out and charlie was only asked where locke and eko were, suggests that des may stay at the hatch.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 27, 2006, 06:44:20 PM Has nobody mentioned the bizarre looking green bird that swooped out of the jungle over Jack and co's heads? Seemed strange. We saw it in Exodus last year too. Only bird on the island, apparently. Quote - Kelvin is seen drawing the island map. 1) How did he know so much about the other stations. 2) Why draw it in invisible ink? 1) Dunno. Possibly from Radzinski (his partner), and his regular trecks around the island. 2) To prevent the cameras from seeing it? Quote Henry seems to be high up in The Others heirarchy. Is this why he said "He's no-one, NOTHING" when in a previous episode Ana Lucia incorrectly guessed that Zeke was in charge. Probably. I thought the twist with Henry was pretty obvious though; being saying it in here for weeks. Still not sure whether or not he's "him" however - that could in fact be Widmore. Quote Why did the pneumatic tubes drop their books in the middle of the jungle? Is it that the claim that the Pearl station is a viewing station just a cover and that it is actually the Pearl Sation that is being observed- after all there was a CCTV camera in there? Yeah. The pearl was the psychological experiment; the swan, for the most, was the real deal. Quote If the System Failure had brought down a 747 form thousand of feet up in the sky, surely it would have destroyed everything within the hatch? The hatch seemed pretty well cemented when Jack and Sayid were exploring earlier in the season, perhaps that reduced the impact of the magnet within the hatch, but didn't have any protection for the outside world.Who knows. Quote Is the "sickness" a psychological fraud to keep people snooping round the island (and inside the hatch)? That's possible, but it doesn't explain ethan injecting claire and her baby with it in "maternity leave". Quote What did Henrys group want with Walt and why are they now so willing to let him go? I honestly wouldnt be too bothered to see the back of Michael and Walt but i do think they will return next season at some point. Perhaps they were simply finished with him; they had no more tests. The real question for me is... Why didn't they just take Saywer, Jack and Kate in "The Hunting Party" when they'd disarmed them - what's changed since then? What I'm thinking is why was Walt returned but Alex was kept- presuming that the young girl with Henrys group is Alex Rosseau? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 27, 2006, 06:49:38 PM Anyone think that the camp they took Michael back to was a fake area, used for show like the beards and that s***? That is possibly what Walt meant about them not being who they say they are, or whatever it was.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 27, 2006, 07:00:49 PM Anyone think that the camp they took Michael back to was a fake area, used for show like the beards and that s***? That is possibly what Walt meant about them not being who they say they are, or whatever it was. Well when Sayid opened the fake doors, surely that was pretty obvious? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: No Quarter on May 27, 2006, 07:15:23 PM Anyone think that the camp they took Michael back to was a fake area, used for show like the beards and that s***? That is possibly what Walt meant about them not being who they say they are, or whatever it was. Well when Sayid opened the fake doors, surely that was pretty obvious? :lol: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 27, 2006, 07:16:28 PM :lol:Sorry if that came out sarcasticly, wasn't meant to :thup:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BlufPurdi on May 27, 2006, 07:50:06 PM Anyone think that the camp they took Michael back to was a fake area, used for show like the beards and that s***? That is possibly what Walt meant about them not being who they say they are, or whatever it was. Well when Sayid opened the fake doors, surely that was pretty obvious? Probably... :doh2: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 27, 2006, 10:40:40 PM I think its clear that Henrys group have a motive for appearing feral and backward, when in fact they are very sophisticated. Something vastly more diabolical is going on behind the scenes.
I didnt realise that the swooping parrot (?) is the only bird on the island. Apparently birds have magneitide in their beaks (thanks to the Ultimate Theory). Therefore when Desmond had his "system failure" when he was out with Kelvin, the huge EM power would have dragged all the birds on the island to a feathery end. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 28, 2006, 07:30:00 AM Quote On last night's "Lost," which closed the island mystery's second season on ABC, a crucial plot development hinged on a copy of the Charles Dickens novel "Our Mutual Friend." (Readers who do not wish to know the particulars of the finale should stop here.) In a flashback Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick), the character "Lost" viewers know as the man who lived down the hatch, tells a prison guard that he carries around "Our Mutual Friend" because he means for it to be the last book he reads before dying. Later, on the island, when Desmond thinks that death is near, he finds a letter inside the book from the love of his life, Penny. Her letter inspires him to go on an apparent suicide mission to save the island and, the episode implied, possibly the world. During a visit to New York City last week, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, the executive producers who run "Lost," said they got the idea of the deathbed reading of "Our Mutual Friend" from an interview with the writer John Irving in which he said he was saving it for last. But besides paying tribute to Mr. Irving, they were eager to refer to Dickens for their own narrative purposes. "He was writing chapter by chapter for newspapers," Mr. Cuse said. "We often think: 'How much did Dickens know when he was writing his stories? How much of it was planned out, and how much was flying by the seat of his pants because he had to get another chapter in?' " He paused, then said with a laugh, "We can respect what he went through." More remarkable than the size of "Lost's" audience, which averages 15.3 million viewers, is its devotion. The show has inspired endless Internet chatter and solicits participation by viewers, who play its popular multiplatorm game, the Lost Experience. When Mr. Cuse and Mr. Lindelof began the writing process for this year's closing episode, they knew that a large number of fervent fans were bitterly disappointed in the Season 1 finale. The big twist in that episode was the kidnapping of 10-year-old Walt (Malcolm David Kelley) by the island's sinister inhabitants, known as the Others, who lived there before the plane crash that began the show. The writers had worked hard to keep Walt's abduction a secret from Internet spoiler sites, nicknaming the scene "the bagel" so as not to let its contents casually slip. (This year's shocker was dubbed "the challah.") That genuinely surprising turn did not end the Season 1 finale however. Instead, in its final moments, the mystical Locke (Terry O'Quinn) and the practical Jack (Matthew Fox) stared down into a mysterious hatch Locke had found earlier in the season and had been trying to open. But fans were annoyed: what could possibly be down the hatch that would be worth a four-month wait? When that finale was broadcast, Mr. Lindelof was in Hawaii about to be married. "We felt everybody was satisfied and psyched," he said. "It never occurred to us that the backlash was going to begin." Mr. Cuse said: "There started to be Internet chatter. We take that feedback to heart. By the time August rolled around, the spin on it was everybody's frustrated that we didn't go into the hatch." The Season 2 premiere tried to remedy that frustration immediately. In the hatch was Desmond, who had been stranded on the island three years earlier. There were also plentiful provisions, retro furniture and, most important, a button that needed to be pushed every 108 minutes to dispel a powerful electromagnetic charge that could lead to catastrophic consequences. When talking about the construction of "Lost," Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse often refer to the Harry Potter books. They want each season, like each book in J. K. Rowling's series, to pose questions and answer them while at the same time maintaining a larger mystery that holds the audience. "This season's story was about the hatch," Mr. Cuse said. "We were very conscious of trying to make the end of the season more satisfying than last year. We wanted to answer a lot of questions." Last night's episode solved two significant "Lost" puzzles, which turned out to be related. What would happen when the button wasn't pushed? (There was a huge explosion, and if Desmond had not activated a backup system, Mr. Cuse said, "It might have led to, ultimately, sucking everything on earth into itself.") And what crashed the castaways' plane? (It was a casualty of the only other instance when the button was not pushed on time.) Because they don't know how long the show will run, Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse have to pace its revelations. "If you answer too many questions, the audience doesn't have anything to care about on the show anymore," Mr. Cuse said. "We had to end the show with a powerful mystery that suggested what the show was going to be about next year and would leave the audience curious about where we're going." Ratings suffered as the season progressed. In response to complaints from both viewers and the show's creators, next season ABC will run the show in two uninterrupted segments, without reruns that stop its flow. But its biggest problem was the return of Fox's "American Idol" in January at the same time on Wednesday nights. Before then, original episodes of "Lost" delivered 21.5 million viewers; after, they brought in 16.5 million (and repeats fared poorly all season). As for next season, the scene that Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse called "the challah" offered a preview. In the final minutes of last night's episode, the action on the island has ended, but in a coda that took place in unfamiliar settings, Penny, Desmond's wealthy, long-lost girlfriend, was told, "I think we found it." The implication viewers were left with was that the explosion on the island finally made it visible, at least temporarily, to someone desperately looking for it. Will a rescue effort be a part of Season 3? Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse would not say but allowed that if this season was about the hatch, next season will be about the Others, as led by the oblique Henry Gale (played by Michael Emerson, who will join the regular cast). Mr. Cuse listed what viewers will learn about the Others by this time next year: "Who are these people? How many of them are there? What is their history? What are they trying to accomplish?" Beyond serving as a teaser, the finale's last minutes were incredibly important to the larger story, Mr. Lindelof said, particularly since this was the first time in 49 hours of the show that "Lost" went off the island in the present, rather than in a flashback. "It's time to actually blow up several theories of the show," he said. "People who believe that they're in purgatory or that they're subjects of an experiment are going to start reassessing those theories based on the fact that we are literally showing you the outside world." Interesting final few paragraphs there. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Howaythelads on May 28, 2006, 10:54:08 AM 77 pages.
Obviously there's a huge gap in my life that I hardly have the time to watch TV and miss all this. :cool: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Geordiesned on May 28, 2006, 11:02:08 AM 77 pages. Obviously there's a huge gap in my life that I hardly have the time to watch TV and miss all this. :cool: Obviously. :cool: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Adam^ on May 28, 2006, 11:27:10 AM Ok everyone just a thought on MIke and Walt in the boat. Desmond tryed to sail away but he couldnt leave and ended up back at the island. Now if Mike is following a compass bearing im guessing he will either get lost at sea or will end up back on the island some time in the next series.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Geordiesned on May 28, 2006, 11:32:43 AM Ok everyone just a thought on MIke and Walt in the boat. Desmond tryed to sail away but he couldnt leave and ended up back at the island. Now if Mike is following a compass bearing im guessing he will either get lost at sea or will end up back on the island some time in the next series. Henry seemed pretty certain they'd "find rescue" if they followed the compass direction he gave. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 28, 2006, 11:55:36 AM Ok everyone just a thought on MIke and Walt in the boat. Desmond tryed to sail away but he couldnt leave and ended up back at the island. Now if Mike is following a compass bearing im guessing he will either get lost at sea or will end up back on the island some time in the next series. Henry seemed pretty certain they'd "find rescue" if they followed the compass direction he gave. Saying that, if they know they can be rescued, the others must be staying there by choice. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 28, 2006, 07:13:36 PM Dunno whether anybodys said this (cant be arsed to look through the posts) but the day of the System Failure/ plane crash is 24th September 2004- the date LOST first premiered on ABC in America.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Southern Geordie on May 28, 2006, 07:59:45 PM Dunno whether anybodys said this (cant be arsed to look through the posts) but the day of the System Failure/ plane crash is 24th September 2004- the date LOST first premiered on ABC in America. Wasn't it the 22nd? Could be wrong. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 28, 2006, 08:45:18 PM Yeah, 22nd.
Glad they cleared the date of the crash up actually; finally gets rid of the "HOLY s*** I FINK THEIR IN THE FUTOR!!!!" theories. Same with the end scene finally ridding of the purgatory theory. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 28, 2006, 11:43:18 PM Ah 22nd or 24th- i'm sure the dates match up, according to aintitcool anyway.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: gimp suit on May 29, 2006, 01:15:02 AM aye, it aired on 22nd September 04
was just thinking, with Hurley trekking back to the camp by himself (presumably) then there's got to be some weird s*** happening with the numbers, those weird animals and/or the black smoke. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Scottish Mag on May 29, 2006, 08:33:25 PM Sorry if its already been posted
Quote Just when you thought you could escape the biggest TV show on the planet with a spot of gaming, Ubisoft have today announced a deal in conjunction with Touchstone Television to bring the the Emmy Award-winning series to home consoles. But will you find out what it is picking off the islanders like a disgruntled T-rex? Probably not. But not to worry, you can look at Jack's tattoo instead. No gameplay details or indeed formats have yet to be announced, although the Xbox 360 will no doubt be in line for some Lost loving. Commenting at the announcement, CEO of Ubisoft Yves Guillemot said "We are delighted to work with Bryan Burk, one of the biggest producers in Hollywood and with Touchstone Television - that they have chosen us for the adaptation of the cult series ‘Lost’ is the best homage that a producer can make to the creativity of Ubisoft.” "Many of us on ‘Lost’ have been hardcore gamers for years and the chance to work with Ubisoft, a company behind some of our favourite titles, has excited us to no end," said ‘Lost’ producer Bryan Burk. "With the ability to tell new interactive stories within the ‘Lost’ universe, we’re giddy to be developing a game that, once completed, will be as engaging and fun to play as it is to create." Lost the TV series follows the survivors of a downed passenger jet as they fight to survive in the aftermath of the crash. But soon enough they realise that the island itself is not deserted and a shady group of 'others' threaten their lives. Couple that with a seemingly abandoned underground facility and the odd Polar bear running amok, and Lost certainly has enough scope to be converted into an entertaining title. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 29, 2006, 11:38:57 PM Sorry if its already been posted Quote Just when you thought you could escape the biggest TV show on the planet with a spot of gaming, Ubisoft have today announced a deal in conjunction with Touchstone Television to bring the the Emmy Award-winning series to home consoles. But will you find out what it is picking off the islanders like a disgruntled T-rex? Probably not. But not to worry, you can look at Jack's tattoo instead. No gameplay details or indeed formats have yet to be announced, although the Xbox 360 will no doubt be in line for some Lost loving. Commenting at the announcement, CEO of Ubisoft Yves Guillemot said "We are delighted to work with Bryan Burk, one of the biggest producers in Hollywood and with Touchstone Television - that they have chosen us for the adaptation of the cult series ‘Lost’ is the best homage that a producer can make to the creativity of Ubisoft.” "Many of us on ‘Lost’ have been hardcore gamers for years and the chance to work with Ubisoft, a company behind some of our favourite titles, has excited us to no end," said ‘Lost’ producer Bryan Burk. "With the ability to tell new interactive stories within the ‘Lost’ universe, we’re giddy to be developing a game that, once completed, will be as engaging and fun to play as it is to create." Lost the TV series follows the survivors of a downed passenger jet as they fight to survive in the aftermath of the crash. But soon enough they realise that the island itself is not deserted and a shady group of 'others' threaten their lives. Couple that with a seemingly abandoned underground facility and the odd Polar bear running amok, and Lost certainly has enough scope to be converted into an entertaining title. I'm pretty sure the makers of Lost have been slightly influenced by the "Myst" series of games. I would love something like that, rather than some dumb shoot em up. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Chase on May 30, 2006, 04:31:09 PM Not sure if anyone else has seen this but found this on another site about the statue with 4 toes, apparantly the only known creatures (known used very loosely) is a Troll, found the following text on a site who'd looked into it and some of the things happening on the island and what trolls are believed to have done do sound quite similar.
Quote Trolls are devious, human-like beings with 4 fingers and 4 toes. Some are giants. If exposed to sunlight they turn to stone and often burst apart. They live in the mountains and hills and enjoy stealing things and abducting humans to live as slaves or at least prisoners among them. Upon returning to civilization the abducted person has been struck with insanity or apathy caused by the trolls. Anyone could be taken by the trolls, even cattle, but at the greatest risk were women who had given birth but not yet been taken back to the church. Does anyone have any ideas as to why Penny would be looking for Desmond by doing research about Electro Magnetism or whatever it was that blew up and I also think that Penny's dad has connections with Dharma as Widmore has been mentioned a few times (Michael worked for Widmore Construction, Sun used a Widmore pregnancy test and a few other links) Also I really hope Walt and Michael don't come back as they really get on my nerves, I get so sick of hearing Michael talk about "ma boi" everytime something goes wrong. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: jwillie on May 30, 2006, 08:17:15 PM Not sure if anyone else has seen this but found this on another site about the statue with 4 toes, apparantly the only known creatures (known used very loosely) is a Troll, found the following text on a site who'd looked into it and some of the things happening on the island and what trolls are believed to have done do sound quite similar. Quote Trolls are devious, human-like beings with 4 fingers and 4 toes. Some are giants. If exposed to sunlight they turn to stone and often burst apart. They live in the mountains and hills and enjoy stealing things and abducting humans to live as slaves or at least prisoners among them. Upon returning to civilization the abducted person has been struck with insanity or apathy caused by the trolls. Anyone could be taken by the trolls, even cattle, but at the greatest risk were women who had given birth but not yet been taken back to the church. Does anyone have any ideas as to why Penny would be looking for Desmond by doing research about Electro Magnetism or whatever it was that blew up and I also think that Penny's dad has connections with Dharma as Widmore has been mentioned a few times (Michael worked for Widmore Construction, Sun used a Widmore pregnancy test and a few other links) Also I really hope Walt and Michael don't come back as they really get on my nerves, I get so sick of hearing Michael talk about "ma boi" everytime something goes wrong. I was thinking that about Penny aswell. If you lost someone on a boat why would you get 2 foreign blokes to look for eletro magnetic bull s***, she must know something. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 30, 2006, 09:54:28 PM Ok, I’ve refrained all year from posting my opinions on the second season as a whole - just individual episode opinions. So finally, here’s my complete season two review with the added benefit of hindsight:
Hit and miss. Basically. When it was hit, it was HIT. When it was miss, it was s*** (by it's own standards). It started off so BRILIANTLY; honestly, “Man of Science, Man of Faith” was up there with the best TV episodes of all time, for me. Unfortunately “Adrift” was a pretty poor, below-par follow up, with weak flashbacks and limited island scenes. Michael’s story was a complete re-hash of a re-hash, and it was just boring, really. But “Orientation” which followed was excellent at progressing the mystery, and was a solid episode overall (though it lacked the character development to be considered outstanding). It was a pivotal episode, but not a perfect episode. Despite the weaknesses however, those first 3 episodes excited me more than any other piece of TV ever. The whole button thing at first seemed just outstandingly well thought out, but the later decision to turn Locke into resident hatch-dweller/part-time button pusher was a mistake. Yes, it brought out another level of depth to his personality, but unfortunately the jungle-dwelling legend from the first season was lost, and replaced by a frustrated recluse, who spent most of his time shouting at the hatch, or bickering with doctor who. Nonetheless, those first three episodes were brilliant as a whole. Then it took a slump. The next two episodes were decent “filler” affairs, thrown in at the most inappropriate time possible. The momentum those first three episode built up was thrown out the window, in place of character development. This was a MASSIVE PROBLEM all season. I mean, I have NOTHING against character development episodes, in fact I love them, but to put them after a run of high-tempo episodes AND before a 3 week break was insanity, and probably cost them a fair few viewers. Fair enough, if these had been on par with the exceptional “outlaws” from season one, all would be forgiven; but they were really just average, simple “padding” storylines. The next set of episodes were ok. “Abandoned” was good, yet bad at the same time. Typical Liz Sarnoff episode really - a lot of emotion, but little progress or tension, and then a big cliff-hanger whacked in at the end (this style was repeated in her other episodes “the hunting party“ and “two for the road“, though the latter WAS a good episode). Shannon’s death was really unnecessary , and resulted in Sayid’s complete non-existence through out the first half of the season, and the unnecessary destruction of Ana-Lucia’s character before she‘d even been fleshed out. “The Other 48 Days” was a really, really solid episode. It felt rushed, but it was always going to. It would have been nice to have more time to focus on the other tailees, but that was always going to be difficult in forty five minutes. “Collision” was also reasonable, and provided decent closure to first third of the season‘s story arc. Obviously, Ana’s character finally had some substance at this stage, but it was FAR too blatant that they were trying to do a “Sawyer” with her - make everyone hate the character, then build up sympathy. Thing is, it didn’t actually work with Ana until they gave up trying a few weeks before her death - that was, ironically, the time when people started to like her. “What Kate Did” did what it said on the tin. I have to admit, I was disappointed by the resolution of her story; I was expecting more. It was built up in season one as if she was some kind of criminal mastermind, who’d done something absolutely terrible. Unfortunately, the writers took the easy way out, and threw in a sloppy explanation of her blowing up her blood father, who beat her mum, when he was sleeping. I expected something shocking, not something empathetic. Anyway, that episode left us on a decent (if mind-blowingly frustrating) cliffhanger, with WAAAAALT (supposedly) cybering with Mikey on the Mac, leading us into a six week break. Looking back now, it seems pretty obvious that this wasn’t Walt, but rather one of “the others” leading Michael to them. The other notable scene in there was Eko and Locke discussing various religious stuff, and repairing the video from The Arrow hatch. Eko and Locke are just too damn good :cool: Then we had the best episode of the season; “The 23rd Psalm”. There wasn’t a great deal of progress storyline wise here, apart from Eko looking into Smokey the smoke cloud, but it was just gripping. Mainly because of Adewale [finish name here]’s acting. The only down side to this one was the reintroduction of Charlie’s drug problem. DON’T YOU DARE BRING THIS f****** PLOTLINE BACK NEXT SEASON DAMON. The monster is an interesting one, especially in light of Damon’s recent podcast comments (“you may have seen the monster without even realising you were looking at it“)… What if it’s some kind of shape shifting device, and things like Kate’s horse, Jack’s dad etc. were the monster. More intriguingly what if one of the characters is the monster in disguise? What if Vincent is the monster (think about it - how many times has he led someone into danger)? There’s so many interesting possibilities here. Next eppy was “The Hunting Party”, which was a MAJOR let-down. The flashbacks were boring as f***, and the meeting with the others, whilst pivotal, was anti-climatic. Then there was Jack’s army idea at the end - all well and good, but if you’re going to train an army, why not ASK THE FRIGGING SOLDIER DOCTOR DIPSHIT? No wonder the idea fizzled out in about 3 island days. This episode was just about saved by the hot Italian woman in the jackbacks however. JUST. “Fire + Water” was next. When I first watched this, I was thinking “hmmm… average”, but the more I think about it, the worse it gets. Even now that the seasons finished, the Charlie story was just bafflingly pointless, and it was resolved in about three minutes in the episode aptly named “three minutes“. Again, this WAS NOT character development; it was character destruction. As I said earlier, the writers just need to look at “Outlaws” from season one - THAT was character development. Drew Goddard (who will be joining the team as full-time writer next season, thank god) managed to make a simple game of “I never” one of the most revealing and tense scenes of the entire first season. NONE of the character development episodes this year got anywhere near that, and that‘s something which needs fixing ASAP. “The Long Con” was great. Really intelligently written. Again though, it was character destruction rather than development. The directing was pretty piss poor as well, and as a result the pace let the episode down. It also feels, in hindsight, like the writers only introduced the sawyer-stealing-the-guns thing for the sake of this episode, and didn’t really know where to take it afterwards. I enjoyed this one, nonetheless. The con was brilliant, and the flashbacks were funtastic™. Episodes 14 through 17 were mostly excellent. “Maternity Leave” was absolutely fantastic, as was “Lockdown”… “The Whole Truth”, however, was yet another example of an average character development episode following a great episode. Sun’s pregnancy was a strange decision by the writers, and I’ve got absolutely no idea how they’re going to stretch it out over 4 or 5 seasons (assuming the time progression remains similar, and that Sun survives). The Henry Gale story was just outstanding. If ever one character turned around a season, Henry Gale was it, and Michael Emerson portrayed him brilliantly. The writing of his story was clever, because - although we were TOLD he was an “other” immediately, not only by Sayid and Danielle, but also the cunning title of his introduction episode “one of them” - there was still a huge degree of uncertainty. They almost made it seem TOO obvious that he was an “other”, which really threw a lot of people. The reveal at the end of “Lockdown” was fantastic, just so well done. Talking of “lockdown” - the blast door map. Firstly, it now seems obvious to me that Henry lifted up the blast doors (probably using the same method as Desmond in the finale) after he pushed the button. Leading on from this, it also now seems LIKELY that he activated the backlight, revealing the map. Why he wanted to reveal the map to Locke, I’m not sure. How he even could have known about the map, I’m also not sure. The only thing I can think of is that Henry was actually Kelvin’s partner, Radzinski, and that Kelvin was lying about the shotgun incident; but that's just wild speculation really. After a few (improved) character-centred stories, Mikey was back in town in episode 20: “two for the road”. This was a good episode. Okay, so the writers used a couple of cheap shock-value deaths to round it off, but I actually enjoyed the rest of the story as well. I liked Ana’s flashbacks, and I liked that there seemed to be a growing connection between Christian and the crash survivors. The deaths, as I said, existed PURELY for shock value (and to prevent ABC’s reputation being diminished by Rodriguez and Wartros’ DUIs, of course), I'm not really sure whether that's good or bad. In hindsight though, there still seems to be little need for Ana to have died really. The only explanation is that Mikey panicked, which I’m not really too convinced by. “?” Was AWESOME. Information, clues, weird dream sequences, Eko flashbacks, Eko and Locke trekking... Brilliant. All of it. The Pearl was a great addition to the button-pushing mystery, and a good way to further damage Locke’s fragile faith. Even better that IT turned out to be the experiment, rather than the Swan. If the island were a chessboard, 'the losties' the whites and 'the others' the darks, then “three minutes” was the process of positioning all the pieces on the board. It was a good set-up episode, which also served to give a few (Miss) Clues and close a few plotlines. The Finale; “Live Together, Die Alone” was sensational. The first hour was tense, the second spectacular. Desmond’s flashbacks were great. The ending was intriguing. Everything just worked. The statue is an interesting plot point, which has received an awful lot of discussion on the net. My first reaction to it was “Colossus of Rhodes”… Even if it’s creation is never explained, it at least serves to clarify that the island’s history is a lot more long-standing than was probably first expected. Certainly, I’d expect that it was there pre-dharma, and it’s not just part of some weird experiment like most of the other stuff. I’d guess it’s pre-Black Rock too. I was glad to see that the button DID actually do something; though this should never really have been in doubt. The plane crash explanation was satisfying, though not at all conclusive. The questions still remain; how did over 70 people survive, and how come a good portion of those people seemed to be on the plane through external influences? Surely they’re not going to just pass these things off as coincidences, after all of the build-up? Another thing I really liked was the links to “Deus Ex Machina” from season one (the 3rd episode this season to link to it). It’s kinda ironic that they chose that episode, since Desmond’s key in this episode was basically a Deus Ex Machina in itself (a plot device added in for convenience). I can’t help but wonder why, however, if back in “Orientation” Desmond was so certain that the world was going to end after the computer blew up, he didn’t just use the key then… The only explanation I can think of is that - having sailed around what he thought was a “snow globe” for two weeks, and having thought that he’d destroyed the world (and therefore Penny) - he was now willing to sacrifice his life so that he could see Penny in the afterlife, as well as save the losties (bearing in mind that he was under the impression that turning the key would kill him). If that makes sense. The ending… At first I was underwhelmed, but I’m really warming to the idea of the island being located. The implications for the show of finally going into the outside world in non-flashback are HUGE. Not only does this kill the purgatory theory, but also kinda dampens Desmond’s snowglobe idea as well. It’ll be interesting to see whether we get to see Penny’s crusade to find the island in season three, or whether we‘ll not hear any more of her until she brings rescue or something. I was a little disappointed in the Walt/Michael resolution here. It seemed… Off. Especially Walt completely forgetting about his dog, and seemingly not caring about Jack and co. I doubt we'll see them much next season - this was the writers' way of getting an unhappy actor (Harold Perrineau) and an over-growing kid off the show without killing them. Overall, I enjoyed season two and I'm looking forward to season three. Whether it was as good as the first season I'm not sure... Some episodes matched up EASILY (MoSMoF, 23rd Psalm, Maternity Leave, lockdown, ? and the finale), but the rest were slightly more hit/miss than their season one equivalents. Hopefully season 3 will get back to the nitty-gritty character survival stuff, because show needs that rather than more mythology. Bring on season three BROTHERS. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 30, 2006, 11:00:42 PM can someone bring in a freezeframe from the episode where shannon dies (just shown on C4) where they stop and eko says he'll go inland, as i'm 100% sure its the same place where desmond killed his partner, but the boat is now missing. how did he have time to move it if it is the same place, where did he move it too, and why would he move it.
"Another thing I really liked was the links to “Deus Ex Machina” from season one (the 3rd episode this season to link to it). It’s kinda ironic that they chose that episode, since Desmond’s key in this episode was basically a Deus Ex Machina in itself (a plot device added in for convenience). I can’t help but wonder why, however, if back in “Orientation” Desmond was so certain that the world was going to end after the computer blew up, he didn’t just use the key then… The only explanation I can think of is that - having sailed around what he thought was a “snow globe” for two weeks, and having thought that he’d destroyed the world (and therefore Penny) - he was now willing to sacrifice his life so that he could see Penny in the afterlife, as well as save the losties (bearing in mind that he was under the impression that turning the key would kill him). If that makes sense." i dont think that either the snow globe or purgatory ideas ever made sense. because desmond had already been there for 2 years when the plane crashed, how could it have been purgatory? the snow globe was rubbish as well, and i only think he believed it because he was smashed. again how could the world only be a snow globe if the people on the plane were experiancing life for 2 years after des went onto the island. i dont think he believes the snow globe idea as well, he was just down and depressed when he said it. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 30, 2006, 11:07:58 PM can someone bring in a freezeframe from the episode where shannon dies (just shown on C4) where they stop and eko says he'll go inland, as i'm 100% sure its the same place where desmond killed his partner, but the boat is now missing. how did he have time to move it if it is the same place, where did he move it too, and why would he move it. If it WAS the same beach, he could have already set sail by then. Quote i dont think that either the snow globe or purgatory ideas ever made sense. because desmond had already been there for 2 years when the plane crashed, how could it have been purgatory? He could also have been dead from the boat crash, maybe? I didn't believe the theory either, but certain aspects of season 1's storytelling DID stronhly hint at it. Not least the transmition in "deus ex machina" being re-dubbed from the initial "there were no survivors of oceanic flight 815?!" to "we're the survivors of oceanic flight 815?!" upon it's second airing. Quote the snow globe was rubbish as well, and i only think he believed it because he was smashed. again how could the world only be a snow globe if the people on the plane were experiancing life for 2 years after des went onto the island. i dont think he believes the snow globe idea as well, he was just down and depressed when he said it. He thought it became a "snowglobe" AFTER he failed to push the button; the day of the crash. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 30, 2006, 11:35:51 PM 13:24 onwards and 28:33 in the final show
judging by the positioniing of the log it was one of the last. could it be that the pearl was abandoned more recently than suspected? probably not, as you'd probably reportt more than just "table tennis table moved" but you never know. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 30, 2006, 11:46:09 PM what if the hatch door with quarenteen on the bottom is not the same one that covered the origional hatch, but rather a sort of plug that when the key is turned is released, releasing all the electromagnatism. i dont think it is (although thats where all the light came from imo. sort of like a volcano, but its a thought.
also imo pen may not have been looking for des, when she was looking for electromagnatism. henry is also pretty sure that he will not be able to find his way back. why is this? could the abnormal electromagnetism make it so that if any boat or ship comes within a certain distance, then the compas will malfunction, causing them to adjust their course around the island? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 31, 2006, 12:18:40 AM Enjoyed reading the season 2 review. I think its only when you see the series again (ie on C4 or E4) that you realise some of the episodes dont really go anywhere. Overall though, i do feel that season 2 just has the edge.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Scottish Mag on May 31, 2006, 09:30:00 PM Quote Lost star Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje has admitted that he sometimes misses his job as a binman. The actor, who plays Mr Eko on the desert island series, revealed that working on the show is far more tiring than collecting rubbish. "Doing the bins was a hustle but it was a good job because I had a 3am start and finished early enough to go to college lectures in the afternoon," he told The Mirror. "It was a peaceful job. You'd get up early in the morning with no one around but the foxes. "You did stink but in a weird way you were very much at one with humanity. I wouldn't say it was fun exactly, not all the time anyway, but it paid well." On his role in Lost, he added, "We are quite literally stuck in the jungle much of the time. It's very hard with long hours over six-day weeks for three months at a time. It's not easy - but it is a beach and that has its fun moments." Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on May 31, 2006, 10:04:04 PM Quote Lost star Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje has admitted that he sometimes misses his job as a binman. The actor, who plays Mr Eko on the desert island series, revealed that working on the show is far more tiring than collecting rubbish. "Doing the bins was a hustle but it was a good job because I had a 3am start and finished early enough to go to college lectures in the afternoon," he told The Mirror. "It was a peaceful job. You'd get up early in the morning with no one around but the foxes. "You did stink but in a weird way you were very much at one with humanity. I wouldn't say it was fun exactly, not all the time anyway, but it paid well." On his role in Lost, he added, "We are quite literally stuck in the jungle much of the time. It's very hard with long hours over six-day weeks for three months at a time. It's not easy - but it is a beach and that has its fun moments." Is he British then? I like the international aspect of Lost. I like that Sun and Jin talk in Korean and that they don't even subtitle a lot of it. I also like that Charlie is the only one who swears, because he can get away with saying things like "bollocks" and "w******" on prime-time US TV without the censors picking it up. I didn't like the stereo-typical flash-backs he had though, that annoyed me. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 31, 2006, 10:10:33 PM I think Andy may have been a bit harsh on the episode "Adrift". Anything would struggle to live up to the season opener but the story of the raft had to be dealt with and the flashbacks i suppose just rammed home that Walt had been again taken from Michael but this time he was determined to get him back. The episode had the "blink and you'll miss it" coolness of the Dharma logo on the sharks tail and the sneaky ending when we all thought Jin was being chased by the Others.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 31, 2006, 10:18:58 PM Pole closed. "Live Together, Die Alone" scored an average of 4.807, and therefore scores :5star:
RANDOM FACTS: Season two as a whole scored an average rating of :4star: Of the episodes which we used a pole to rate, the lowest ranked episode was "The Whole Truth" which averaged 2.82. The top 3 episodes rated via pole were, in reverse order: 3. Lockdown - 4.50 2. Question Mark - 4.62 1. Live Together, Die Alone - 4.81 The audience have voted correctly. Well done. I might do a "best episode of season two" poll now. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 31, 2006, 10:20:24 PM I think Andy may have been a bit harsh on the episode "Adrift". Anything would struggle to live up to the season opener but the story of the raft had to be dealt with and the flashbacks i suppose just rammed home that Walt had been again taken from Michael but this time he was determined to get him back. The episode had the "blink and you'll miss it" coolness of the Dharma logo on the sharks tail and the sneaky ending when we all thought Jin was being chased by the Others. I just didn't like the episode. The style of it didn't suit lost, and as I already mentioned, the flashbacks were insanely dull. It could have easily been done in three or four extra scenes shoved into the season premiere/Orientation. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 31, 2006, 10:30:33 PM With regards to flashbacks i hope in season 3 they use them either to introduce relevant back story or to introduce new characters. What i could do without is less flashbacks of Jack weeping, Kate evading the law (in fact they can ditch her for me, an increasingly irrelevant character barring her love triangle bollcoks with Jack and Sawyer), Sawyer conning people, anything regarding Charlie and his band and Hurley saying "dude" a lot (although i did enjoy "Dave").
What i would like to see is the long awaited answer to Lockes paralysis (beaten to a pulp by those thugs...or is that too obvious), more creepy Eko stuff (that autopsy tape was a spine tingler), some Rosseau flashbacks, more of Desmonds story and what i would love, although unlikely is Henry related history. Of course its also going to be interesting to see if they combine flashbacks with real time "off island" scenes as seen in the very end scene of LT, DA. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 31, 2006, 10:33:39 PM Is he British then? Yeah. If you go back and watch "Orientation", when Ana climbs out of the hole he says something to her in his natural cockney accent. Also, see this video here: https://www.tv.com/lost/show/24313/videos.html Quote I didn't like the stereo-typical flash-backs he had though, that annoyed me. The casting for that episode was absolute bollocks. I'm sure the usual casting team must have been on holiday for that episode or something. Either that or they couldn't be arsed, and just hired a random british family they found wandering around in the middle of hawaii. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 31, 2006, 10:56:35 PM With regards to flashbacks i hope in season 3 they use them either to introduce relevant back story or to introduce new characters. What i could do without is less flashbacks of Jack weeping, Kate evading the law (in fact they can ditch her for me, an increasingly irrelevant character barring her love triangle bollcoks with Jack and Sawyer), Sawyer conning people, anything regarding Charlie and his band and Hurley saying "dude" a lot (although i did enjoy "Dave"). What i would like to see is the long awaited answer to Lockes paralysis (beaten to a pulp by those thugs...or is that too obvious), more creepy Eko stuff (that autopsy tape was a spine tingler), some Rosseau flashbacks, more of Desmonds story and what i would love, although unlikely is Henry related history. Of course its also going to be interesting to see if they combine flashbacks with real time "off island" scenes as seen in the very end scene of LT, DA. Here's a quote from Gregg Nations, script co-ordinator on the show: Quote Next season, I think Damon and Carlton really want to focus all their efforts on the character-driven aspects of the show, rather than having the mythology dominate most of the story-arc as it did this year with the button. Flashbacks will probably be a lot more revealing, and I believe the intention is to actually use them to forward the mythology, rather than just to pad out the episodes. I know that several questions will also be answered in the flashbacks next year; not least the way in which Locke ended up in his wheelchair, which will be dealt with pretty early on. Other than the flashbacks, I think the writers feel that they really need to get back to the nitty-gritty survival aspects of the show. This year our characters have had it pretty easy with the luxuries of the hatch, and the protection it offers; but next year they'll be back to hunting boar and fish as the season progresses, which is going to be a lot more like season one. We feel like we need the characters to interact with one another more often too, in particular when it comes to discoveries they make on the island. This year we got a bit of criticism from certain areas for not having Claire tell Jack about the medical station, for example - that's something we're really going to strive to improve upon next year, and I hope the show will be better for it if we do. In answer to your second question - I think (and certainly hope) that Locke's freedom from the constraints of the button will take him back to his "great bald hunter"-cum-group shaman status that he had pre-hatch. I personally believe that his psychological support for other characters was something that season two genuinely missed, and I think Damon and Carlton feel the same. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 31, 2006, 11:17:03 PM New pole!!!
Pick your favourite three episodes of the season from the list provided, then we'll get a feel for which ones was the best init. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on May 31, 2006, 11:20:53 PM Tough choice btw, I went for "MoSMof", "23rd Psalm" and "?" because they left me feeling the most warm and fuzzy afterwards.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on May 31, 2006, 11:24:33 PM MOSMOF, 23rd Pslam, Live Together Die Alone.
Took me all of two seconds to decide that one. Honorable mentions to Lockedown, ?, The Long Con and Dave. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on May 31, 2006, 11:25:22 PM MoSof, ? and lockedown for me.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on May 31, 2006, 11:28:23 PM Is he British then? Yeah. If you go back and watch "Orientation", when Ana climbs out of the hole he says something to her in his natural cockney accent. Also, see this video here: https://www.tv.com/lost/show/24313/videos.html Quote I didn't like the stereo-typical flash-backs he had though, that annoyed me. The casting for that episode was absolute bollocks. I'm sure the usual casting team must have been on holiday for that episode or something. Either that or they couldn't be arsed, and just hired a random british family they found wandering around in the middle of hawaii. Ta. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: NewcastleRocker on May 31, 2006, 11:29:31 PM MOSMOF.
Two for The Road Live together Die alone Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: jwillie on June 01, 2006, 10:00:35 AM MOSMOF
Lockdown Live Together Die Alone *EDIT* Fav. Character of Season Two. TAFKA Henry Gale Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: chip2388 on June 01, 2006, 10:51:40 AM 1st one last one and lockdown
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Decky on June 01, 2006, 11:47:36 AM SOME SPOILERS ON SEASON 3 BELOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYIvbXSY9oc&search=Lost%20season%203 Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: chip2388 on June 01, 2006, 11:59:41 AM I'd delete what you just said and say Spoiler Alert if i was you..i don't mind spoilers but i know other people like Andy who do
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 01, 2006, 01:12:31 PM Jesus, the sound quality on that video's dreadful.
From what I could actually make out though, it was just pretty much the same things that they've already said in the podcasts etc. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 02, 2006, 02:14:44 PM Just stumbled upon these two sites:
Lost Mysteries: https://lostmysteries.blogspot.com/ Lost Answers: https://lostanswers.blogspot.com/ Basically it's a collection of all the mysteries/answers to mysteries we've had so far. Pretty impressive. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: gimp suit on June 02, 2006, 02:39:45 PM been needing to see somethng like this. good stuff.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 07, 2006, 12:11:44 AM Some info about ana-lucia/new characters next season:
Quote Lost Executive Producer Carlton Cuse has confirmed that Ana-Lucia (played by Michelle Rodriguez) will not be returning to the show in the near future - even in flashbacks. "We feel like we've told her story" Cuse revealed. "Her arc had a beginning, a middle and an end. We have nothing more to reveal about the character. It's very unlikely that she'll be back". Meanwhile, Ana-Lucia's killer, Michael (played by Harold Perrineau) is also set to be dumped by the show in it's third season, despite an open-ended exit in the season two finale. "At this moment in time, it seems that I'm not off the show altogether, but I am not back next season … and I may not ever be back" said Perrineau, who has been central to the plot in recent weeks. "I really don't know what's happening. I haven't even discussed an extended contract with ABC yet". However, despite the exodus of several characters, series creator/head writer Damon Lindelof confirmed that new characters will be joining the cast come october. "At least 3 new characters will be joining the show in the fall" Lindelof said "and we'll also be brining in Michael Emerson's character (henry gale) full-time, which is really exciting". Lindelof finished "we also want to get libby's story told, and we really want to go back to the story of Cindy, who went missing way back in episode 6. Both of those stories will be told in season 3" Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BlufPurdi on June 07, 2006, 12:14:33 AM YES! No more Michael. :jacko:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 07, 2006, 12:22:31 AM He was bitching to the press a few month back about how much he hated working in Hawaii, and how he felt he deserved a more significant role on the show.
It really wouldn't surprise me if Lindelof and Cuse have basically just turned around and told him to f*** off. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BlufPurdi on June 07, 2006, 12:23:55 AM That's a terrifying prospect, him having a more significant role. Good on them, if they did.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 14, 2006, 05:49:41 PM Quote Lost writing supremo Damon Lindelof has stated that the show will come to an end, in one way or another, at the end of it's fourth season, which will air in Fall 2007. Speaking at a conference in the popular "La Casa del Cinema" in Rome, Lindelof anounced that the series (created by himself and JJ Abrams) would run no longer than 88 episodes; "the amount of keys on a typical piano", as he described it. "One way or another, we intend to end the show after 88 episodes" he said "whether ABC are on the same note as us is a different matter though, of course, but the story-arc that myself, Carlton and JJ have written for these characters on this island... We'd like that to be concluded after season four." Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BlufPurdi on June 14, 2006, 05:51:45 PM Good news.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: NewcastleRocker on June 14, 2006, 06:00:10 PM Eighty eight hours of Lost. f*** me. :thup:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 23, 2006, 10:55:36 PM A couple of snippets:
Quote LOST star Michael Emerson, who plays the charismatic leader of "the others" Henry Gale, is being tipped by bookies to be named Best Supporting Actor at this year's EMMY awards ceremony in fall. Emerson was introduced mid-way through the show's second season, and received critical acclaim for his acting displays in almost every episode in which he appeared. He's expected to compete with fellow LOST star Adewale Akinnuoye Agbaje (who plays the powerful priest Mr Eko) and Wentworth Miller of Prison Break fame. LOST is expected to once again be named Best Drama, and the spectacular finale "Live Together, Die Alone" will be nominated as it's outstanding episode. Meanwhile, head writers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse will hope to compete for the Best Writers award, in what is set to be another great award ceremony for the ABC television network. Quote In a recent radio interview, Michael Emerson said "Jack (Bender) was pretty clear about Henry's reaction to the sky being electrified in the finale, he told me that I should look quite expectant, you know, kinda like he was thinking 'Oh, it's happened. About time'. I think it's safe to say that Henry knew exactly what was happening, and he knew the implications of it. He didn't fear it, and he wasn't surprised by it... But that doesn't mean something bad didn't happen as a result of it!" "Henry's a very intriguing character, a great one to play... He's not a villain with a capital V. Everyone who does evil things doesn't believe they are villains. Even the most heinous people don't think they're heinous. Maybe that describes Henry. But we have nothing to pin on him. He's been the victim of beatings, hung in a tree, shot with an arrow. How can he be a villain when he's getting beaten up? I think he scares people because of his unblinking and unthinking gaze. People find something superhuman about the way Henry looks at the world. There's something about his eyes. He's saying one thing but it seems there's an agenda he's working on that we don't know. Think of him as a warrior in an unknown war. He behaves like a commando of sorts, on a mission behind enemy lines. And he's not telling us what that mission is." "The main question surrounding him is obviously 'who the HELL is he, exactly?'... I don't know much more than the rest of you guys on that, but my personal theory is that Henry is the head guy amongst 'The Others' who inhabit the island, but probably just a small cog in a pretty huge DHARMA machine. Obviously though, knowing Damon Lindelof and his infinite crew of trained monkeys and typewriters, it'll be the exact opposite! Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 24, 2006, 02:41:14 PM So now that this thread's nearly dead... Hall of Fame?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on June 24, 2006, 02:51:35 PM It will be reborn.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Decky on June 24, 2006, 02:55:20 PM i think we should make it hall of fame, start a new one for season 3. the first post in this thread cant be deleted
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 26, 2006, 03:31:45 PM Anyone here still following the Lost Experience? For those who haven't really bothered, here's a summary of the main pieces of information that have been found so far:
Quote The Hanso Foundation: Their mission statement says they stand “at the vanguard of social and scientific research for the advancement of the human race”. They have a spectacular website detailing all of their research and development projects worldwide, and they even run television ads promoting their motto of “reaching out for a better tomorrow”. The Foundation was established by noted philanthropist Alvar Hanso, and its executives dedicate the skills they bring from their life experiences to the betterment of mankind through the Foundation. However, things which look “too good to be true” often are. There seems to be a whistleblower within the Hanso Foundation—a woman who calls herself “Persephone” has been hacking the Hanso Foundation website in order to share information on the real nature of their projects and board of directors, and may even be getting assistance from sympathetic employees of companies which do business with the Foundation. Here’s what Persephone has told us so far regarding the executives of the Hanso Foundation: Thomas Mittelwerk: The President and Chief Technologist is described on the Hanso Foundation website as Alvar Hanso’s right hand man. However, Persephone points out that he cannot have been recruited by Alvar Hanso at the age of eighteen while pursuing a molecular biology degree at Caltech, as the site says—Caltech’s records show that he never studied there. Peter Thompson: The “successful corporate lawyer” joined the Hanso Foundation as Vice President, General Counsel, and Secretary after being cured of cancer at one of their clinics. Persephone tells us that before coming to work for the Foundation, the seemingly pro-philanthropy Thompson actually made a career of defending tobacco, oil, and nuclear interests against patients and citizens. He also defended Lawrence Peck and Jacob Vanderfield, members of the Foundation’s Board of Directors, against assorted charges and got very light sentences for both. Hugh McIntyre: The Communications Director has a background as a UN translator and public relations expert. His bio on the website describes him as “deeply committed to family values”. However, Persephone has provided us with evidence that McIntyre was cheating on his wife of fifteen years with an unidentified woman. McIntyre appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show on May 24, stating that Persephone was “more mischievous than damaging” and that the picture on the website was actually his predecessor’s, accidentally posted by the webmaster. The picture then disappeared and was replaced by a question mark. Alvar Hanso: The information Persephone has on the Foundation’s founder and guiding force is a bit different. She hasn’t accused Hanso himself of any nefarious activity; instead, Persephone notes that he hasn’t been seen in public since the end of 2002. Is Alvar Hanso really running the Hanso Foundation now, as the website suggests? Or is someone else in charge? Persephone’s charges regarding the Foundation’s projects are even more damning. Department of Heuristics and Research on Material Applications (DHARMA): We know very little about this department, but its name was given to us as part of a game presented in the MHA hack. There may be more information available on DHARMA in the future. The Hanso Foundation seems notoriously uncomfortable with negative publicity—brief mentions of the Foundation in the novel “Bad Twin” were greeted with a flurry of ads in major newspapers, and revelations such as Persephone’s could provoke a more dangerous response. Mathematical Forecasting Initiative: Despite the MFI’s stated goals of using mathematical models to predict the impact of pollution, population growth, and human disease, Persephone has presented us with a portion of a letter from Peter Thompson to “Minister of the Interior Mugato” regarding using findings from the Foundation’s population growth models to justify preemptive strikes on enemies—Thompson insisted on “plausible deniability”. Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program: On the Hanso Foundation’s website, the WWPDP is described as “a far-reaching educational initiative designed to teach the basics of sanitation, nutrition, and disease prevention to the world”. Persephone suggests that the free hospitals built by the Foundation have a darker purpose. A code hidden on a map of the foundation’s hospitals reads “MISSING ORGANS”. She later provided a South African newspaper account of a raid on a Hanso Foundation hospital that found patients kept in a comatose state with missing organs and bodies being kept just above freezing for organ harvesting purposes. Interestingly, the paper ran a retraction the next day regarding the involvement of the Foundation with the hospital…immediately after the paper’s purchase by the Foundation. The reporter also told Persephone of rumors that another reporter had died in a car accident immediately after penning a similar story. Mental Health Appeal: The expressed goal of the MHA is “the complete eradication of all mental illness by the end of the century”, but according to Persephone, their methods are at best questionable. She has provided us with a letter from Dr. Armand Zander, director of the Vik Institute, the MHA’s flagship institution, to “Dr.” Thomas Mittelwerk, protesting activities conducted by doctors at the hospital acting outside of his authority. Electromagnetic Research Initiative: The most basic of the Foundations’ research projects as well as the most vaguely described, the ERI seeks simply to understand electromagnetism. Persephone’s hack of this area includes another letter to Dr. Mittelwerk from a minister of the Korean government, warning that an offshore antenna project could be moved or destroyed due to negative effects on the surrounding area that include satellite and communications interference and mutations observed in nearby wildlife. Institute for Genomic Advancement: Persephone has told us relatively little about this project, whose goal is described as the eradication of disease and birth defects through a deeper understanding of the function and mechanisms of the human genome. One hack, reached by an interesting password ‘parthenogenesis’ reveals a logo apparently tattoed on the skin of a dead shark, yet this update did not contain any of Persephone’s signature text and documentation. Life Extension Project: The LEP, whose purpose is clearly stated in its name, boasts as its main achievement a 105-year-old orangutan named Joop. Persephone’s earliest site hack shared first a letter from a Global Welfare Consortium official, Jacques Maillot, to the CDC alleging a connection between the LEP’s research activities and a new meningococcal strain transmitted to humans in Africa, and a second letter from Peter Thompson effectively smoothing over the fuss—after he had taken over Maillot’s position at the GWC. So who is Persephone? She has given us very little information on her own identity—one note on the WWPDP map states that she was an employee of the foundation. In addition, as part of that same update, a page was included in the microfilm section that read “Persephone if you can read this I know who you are”. We may not know who Persephone is, but evidently someone else does. Another individual that may be a natural ally of Persephone’s is DJ Dan, a broadcaster and conspiracy hunter. Persephone used a name for Dan’s devoted listeners (“conspiraspies”) to unlock her latest update, which suggests some sort of connection between these two. In addition, one caller to a recent show of DJ Dan’s was “concerned” enough to issue threats if Dan didn’t stop his criticism of the Hanso Foundation. Since Persephone has shared information on the true nature of the Hanso Foundation’s executives and nearly all of its projects, it is unclear what directions any future revelations of hers may take. Hanso watchers and conspiraspies should stay tuned. Addendum June 16, 2006: Persephone had one more update today regarding the disappearance of Alvar Hanso. Hanso had apparently suffered some sort of medical crisis before vanishing, and afterwards, his office was slowly picked over in his absence. Just as Persephone was confessing that she believed Mittelwerk was responsible for the current direction of the Foundation, the transmission was abruptly cut off with the following message—“The Hanso Foundation site has been hacked by malicious infiltrators seeking to damage the good work of many dedicated researchers. Until a legal investigation is completed, the site will no longer be accessible to the public. Namaste.” It appears that Persephone will need to find a new outlet if she wishes to continue her efforts against the Hanso Foundation. Source: https://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=53316 Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 26, 2006, 03:35:03 PM And another...
Quote The Hanso Foundation: an organization that has worked its tendrils into virtually every nook and cranny of the globe. Its influence is undeniable, whether in the limelight of center stage or in the dark shadows of the background. Its stated purpose: to take on the most pressing issues facing mankind today – disease, famine, and even death itself. But is this organization as pristine and well-intentioned as it would have us believe? Some sources are categorically saying “NO”. The organization was founded sometime in the mid 1960’s by a man known as Alvar Hanso. Not much is known about this mysterious figurehead, and it doesn’t help matters when you haven’t been seen or heard from in several years. What is known about him is his apparent history as an arms dealer and his involvement with supplying munitions to various resistance movements around Europe during World War II. Apparently sometime afterwards, he decided to take a more “peaceful” approach to changing the world and so he founded the Hanso Foundation. For whatever reason, the Foundation has managed to keep a relatively low profile until recent days. But now, all of a sudden, they have decided to step out into the light, in full view of the public eye, and to invite everyone to discover and take part in the wealth of information they have allegedly uncovered through their various programs to further the evolution of mankind. They “kicked” things off by giving the media a full press release, advertising their new and improved website, and airing TV commercials on the ABC Network. But why now…unless the best way to hide something is to hide it in plain sight… And so…the Foundation’s global campaign was launched and was received with overwhelming public support. It seemed things couldn’t have gone any smoother…until “she” came into the picture. Pretty soon, the public started questioning the “strange” content that could be heard by calling the Foundation’s call center. Not only were you directed into the voicemail centers of various employees, where you could pick up on strange topics such as an “offshore project” in Korea and an “accelerated remote viewing facility”, but a strange female voice seemed to randomly break through in places it shouldn’t have been. Thus began the exploits of the hacker known only as “Persephone”. Her goal: to bring to the surface “the truth” about this nefarious organization. Enter: Hugh McIntyre, Communications Director and official “spokesman” of the Hanso Foundation. Hugh was in the public eye from the very beginning, since the first official press release had his name printed at the end of it. Things were going really well for Hugh’s PR campaign until Persephone began her relentless onslaught to botch up the works. Hugh tried his very best, through public statements and even a public appearance on the “Jimmy Kimmel Show”, to smooth things over and dispel any doubts about the organization’s goals or intentions. However, Persephone proved to be just a little more persistent and convincing than he ever imagined… As for the voice “breaking through” at the call center, it was finally realized that this person was trying to get a message out to the world. A message that insinuated that Alvar Hanso is missing and probably isn’t running the Foundation as well as a “code”, of sorts, which she claimed could be put to use somehow on the Foundation’s new website. The code: “breaking strain”. But what was this “password” used for? People soon began figuring it out. The new website offered an area where people could sign up for a newsletter to keep up to date with the latest happenings within the Foundation. However, after the initial input of a username, a curious message appeared. It soon became very apparent that this “Persephone” was not only hacking the Foundation’s phone service, but their website as well. She then asked for a “password”, which was, of course, breaking strain. When this password was entered, she informed the user that they were now “signed in”. Meanwhile, Hugh was dealing with problems from another front. A book entitled “Bad Twin”, by missing author Gary Troup, was published and hitting bestseller lists all over the world. This wouldn’t normally concern the Foundation, if it weren’t for the fact that the book directly references the Foundation and certain members of their staff in a sort of “bad light”. Hugh immediately launched a “counter-offensive” to publicly oppose the “opinions” presented in the book and demanded that Hyperion Books cease printing and selling the “slanderous” book immediately. However, this only served to draw more attention to the book and was met with direct opposition from Hyperion, who adamantly refused to cease production on the publication. This also led to the discovery of several pieces of an interview that the author did with Laird Granger concerning the book right before its publication. Mr. Troup made some startling revelations about the Foundation, Alvar Hanso, and their supposed possession of something he referred to as the “Valenzetti Equation”…a mathematical equation developed at Princeton University by Enzo Valenzetti that can supposedly predict the end of the world… Back on the Foundation’s website, people had figured out how and where to use Persephone’s password…but now what? Further investigation eventually led to a portion of the website titled “Joop’s Corner”. This section is directly related to a project funded by the Foundation called the “Life Extension Project”. Supposedly, Joop is an orangutan owned by the Foundation that celebrated his 105th birthday in September of 2005. This is notable since no other orangutan has had a lifespan anywhere close to that number. The Foundation had set up a webcam where Joop could be observed in captivity. Below this webcam, there was an area where a message could be sent to Joop. If the proper steps had been followed, i.e. putting in the password, this resulted in a very strange occurrence. Joop suddenly became very agitated and it seemed as if the focus shifted to inside Joop’s head. Eventually, a “red orb” appeared and clicking on this linked to a letter from the Director of the Global Welfare Consortium to an official at the Center for Disease Control. This letter explained that the GWC was becoming increasingly concerned with the uncooperative nature of the Hanso Foundation and their suspicions of the Foundation’s role in a recent outbreak of a deadly virus. Clicking on the signature at the bottom of this letter led to yet another letter. This was also a letter from the GWC to the CDC. However, this letter apologized for the previous letter and claimed that the Hanso Foundation was now being very cooperative and that the GWC had found no evidence to support the Foundation’s role in the viral outbreak. The strange thing was, however, that a different person signed the second letter as the Director of the GWC. This person turned out to be Peter Thompson, who also happens to be VP General Council and Secretary of the Hanso Foundation. Persephone then points out the obvious: the Foundation is very quick to subvert authority to alter circumstances in their favor… As time went on, Persephone continued to dig up ugly little factoids about the organization as well as leaving cryptic messages that have yet to reveal their significance. In the “World Wellness and Prevention Development Program” section, the words “missing organs” were deciphered from a strange numbering sequence. Later, a hidden link was discovered in one of Hugh’s own press releases linking to a site Persephone used to leave behind clues that was attached to the Foundation’s website. People were led to the website on a certain day where it was revealed, according to her, that Alvar Hanso had not been seen since 2002, approximately four years, and that she believed he was not currently running the sinister Foundation. She then began hiding links to other websites to leave her clues. One such clue led people to Dr. Thomas Mittelwerk’s bio page where they could input another password, “heir apparent”, to access yet another hack by the mysterious woman. This revealed that Persephone had been digging into Mittelwerk’s background and she discovered that he had never attended CalTech or any other known university for his type of background. She then questions his credentials and even his true identity, and rightfully so… Eventually, people were led to yet another strange website, which appeared to be focused on studying and uncovering “conspiracy theories”. This website was set up by a very colorful character calling himself “DJ Dan” aka Dan Lapinsky. He was accompanied by his fellow “conspiraspy” Tonya Jefferson. DJ Dan’s “podcasts” became of particular interest since he tends to focus on the Hanso Foundation and his rants and interviews seem to reveal and hint at tidbits of information that might not be available elsewhere. His first podcast centered on cryogenics and even suggested that Alvar Hanso is in cryogenic stasis in a laboratory outside of Phoenix, Arizona. The DJ would be releasing several additional podcasts in the near future… Another Persephone clue on the Foundation’s “Electromagnetic Research Initiative” page led to yet another website. Some digging around on this site revealed some very interesting documents between Jeep and the Hanso Foundation as well as another password: “the mouth piece”. For some reason, Jeep had agreed to a contract where the Foundation would purchase a “fleet” of Jeep vehicles and then Jeep suddenly rescinded the offer. Why would they shun such an opportunity for profit? Returning to the Foundation’s website, if the new password was used in Hugh McIntyre’s bio section, another of Persephone’s hacks could be accessed. And Mr. McIntyre did almost certainly not want this particular information revealed. Persephone has somehow uncovered that Hugh has been having an affair…providing photographs of him with the other woman as well as suspicious hotel bills and other various receipts. This was probably to illustrate that the spokesman of the Foundation, who so strongly upholds “family values”, does not practice what he preaches… Later on, yet another bio was infiltrated, that of Peter Thompson. A series of “letters” could be seen rapidly flickering on his photograph. These letters could be used to flesh out the words “survivor guilt”. Using this password in a hidden text box on his bio led to more startling discoveries by our girl Persephone. Apparently Mr. Thompson used to be somewhat of a disreputable attorney. He defended a tobacco company, oil company, and nuclear power plant and not only got them vindicated of any wrongdoing, but in some cases caused harm to the plaintiffs as well, both financially and physically. Yep…Mr. Thompson is definitely a stand-up guy… The Hanso Foundation then decided to set up a sort of career opportunity page with the help of Monster.com. With careers offered such as “Organ Courier” and “Simian Veterinarian”, it’s easy to see that this organization isn’t what it purports to be. Let’s think about this: “Organ Courier” and “Missing Organs”…the implications are undeniable… In any case, it turned out that certain “letters” were a slightly different shade than the rest of the letters in each one of the “job descriptions”. These letters could be scrambled around to form “inmate asylum”. A hidden link was also found at the bottom of these descriptions that led back to the Foundation’s “Board of Directors” page on their website. Using this password under either Mr. Vanderfield’s or Mr. Peck’s bios led to more information dug up by Persephone. It turned out that both Mr. Vanderfield and Mr. Peck had found themselves in legal troubles that would ensure their prison stay for quite awhile. But…a clever attorney got both of their sentences significantly reduced to almost nothing and now they are both on the Board of Directors…hence the witty password. And who is this clever defense tactician? He’s none other than Peter Thompson, evil lawyer extraordinaire. So far the Foundation has a phantom CEO, a fake doctor, an unfaithful spokesman, an evil lawyer, and two felons on the Board of Directors…so what are we worried about? On DJ Dan’s next podcast installment, the main information involved a college student whose entire scholarship was based on his involvement in research on some type of electromagnetic “superweapon” for an unknown company. The student decided that this type of research could produce nothing “good”, so he decided that he wanted no part of it. Unfortunately, this resulted in the termination of his scholarship. He did, however, manage to follow a “representative” of the unknown company back to their apparent point of origin: the Widmore Corporation building. Is it a mere coincidence that a branch of the Hanso Foundation is also located in this building? When asked what this weapon was for, the student simply replied that the project’s goal was to be able to bring down a “space-borne body, like the moon”… Another Persephone hack was located on the “Mathematical Forecasting Initiative” page of the Foundation’s website. After some clever fact-finding and a mysterious backwards message stating that “she was an employee of the foundation”, a letter was uncovered from Peter Thompson to someone he referred to as “Minister of the Interior Mugato”. Basically, Mr. Thompson was informing this person that the Hanso Foundation could not be implicated in any use of their “population model” for pre-emptive strikes against rival tribes. So the Foundation enjoys subverting authority, causing viral outbreaks, and inciting wars…all of which are very constructive hobbies. The illustrious DJ’s next podcast seemed to be primarily an indication that Dan had possibly sold out to “the Man”. This podcast included various images along with the audio with Dan defending his need for “sponsors”, such as Sprite, and his actions. At the same time, Persephone hacked into the “WWPDP” section of the Foundation’s website again. The needed password, “D20”, was discovered in a photograph that had been previously left behind by the hacker. It is interesting to note that D20 is shorthand for deuterium oxide or “heavy water”, which has been theorized to prolong human life if removed from the human body. This hack led to information implicating the Hanso Foundation in an “organ harvesting” operation going on in a local hospital in Cape Town, South Africa. After a local newspaper, the Cape Town Inquisitor, broke the story, the Hanso Foundation was quick to buy out the newspaper and run a counter story claiming that the Foundation was no longer connected to the hospital in question. Let’s do another recap: we have “Missing Organs”, “Organ Courier”, and “organ harvesting”…a deeply evil scenario is starting to unfold… And apparently, someone has figured out Persephone’s real identity… As events continued to unfold, it became apparent that either Persephone was being compromised in some way, possibly due to her revealed identity, or her unrelenting efforts were beginning to catch up with her. The “Institute for Genomic Advancement” section of the Foundation’s website turned out to be her next port of entry. This hack simply served to inform every one of Persephone’s apparent difficulties “getting through” and a countdown timer was introduced, which expired sometime the next day. In the meantime, the Hanso Foundation aired another commercial advertising a very strange website at the end. This website seemed to have a morbid obsession with yellow Labrador retrievers. After signing up for the “newsletter” on this site, it was discovered through said newsletter and some experimentation that a “secret” message board could be accessed by typing “porter” into the email address box. This message board seemed to serve as a sort of meeting ground for disgruntled employees of the Foundation. Luckily, clues were abounding as well. After examining yet another website mentioned in the comments, the word “parthenogenesis” was discovered “out of place” in the source code of the site… The very next day, after the mysterious countdown had expired, a new text entry box became available in the IGA section of the Foundation’s site. Entering the word discovered previously, parthenogenesis opened a portal to yet another Persephone hack. However, it is notable that for some reason Persephone does not make her presence known throughout this presentation, as she always had before. This hack was also very strange as it displayed a series of mysterious images: 1) a jungle-like cave area with a “figure” standing in the distance, 2) further into the scene the figure is now gone and the ocean and giant rocks can be seen, 3) even further out a beach can be seen along with a dead shark and what looks like some sort of antenna going up into the sky, and 4) a close up of the dead shark with a “DHARMA” logo on its skin. Now we’ve added genetic experimentation and strange structures into the mix… DJ Dan’s next after school special seemed focused on “Richard” who claimed to have found the corpse of a shark with a strange “symbol” on it and a word that began with a “D”. Hmmm…that sounds strikingly familiar to something that was shown quite recently. Dan gets quite excited over it and practically begs “Dick” to send him some photos of the beast. There’s nothing like more fuel to keep the conspiracy fire burning. Dan also received a very disturbing phone call from an individual presumably employed by the Foundation to “warn” the DJ of the possible consequences of his actions. This person made it very clear that he knew Dan’s real identity, personal information, and even where he was located at that very moment. Dan was notably shaken by the call and even made a comment about naming a successor. The strange part is, in the DJ’s last podcast, he named a supposed successor, DJ Dave…were this podcasts coming out in order? After a particularly nerve-racking set of clues involving several pictures of “faceless” men, another hack from Persephone was discovered on the “Mental Health Appeal” section of the Foundation’s website. After some manipulation of the file names, the phrase “light sequence again” was formed and typed into the “Inquire Today” box on the MHA page to access the hack. This gave access to a very disturbing letter from the Director of the Vik Institute to Dr. Mittelwerk of the Hanso Foundation. It talked about secret testing on autistic savants and how the Director didn’t even know everything going on in his own hospital. He basically demanded to be let into the loop or he would be forced to resign his position. Then, a “color sequencing” game, of sorts, could be accessed and the reward for passing this test was the revelation that “DHARMA” stands for “Department of Heuristics And Research on Material Applications”. Later, yet another Persephone hack was discovered on the “ERI” section of the Foundation website. After some clever clue-finding on DJ Dan’s website, it was discovered that “conspiraspies” was the needed password to learn more about this “crucial force”. This takes you to a letter from Gon Choi of the Ministry of ________ to Dr. Mittelwerk of the Hanso Foundation. Basically the letter informs Dr. Mittelwerk that unless certain steps were taken, he would be forced to inform his superiors of the strange “occurences” surrounding the Foundation’s “offshore project” somewhere near the Korean coastline. Other images are shown including another “antenna” similar to the previous one, a satellite photo, and some type of abnormal growth. So…the Foundation dabbles in genetic engineering, viral outbreaks, organ harvesting, causing abnormal growth, and weird “antennas”…sounds nice. After the worst was feared when DJ Dan didn’t deliver on his next promised podcast, it was finally found via the secret message board on the “retrievers” site. This podcast seemed focused on “nanotechnology”, which Dan strangely knew very little about. These nanites could be used for various applications, since they are basically molecule-sized robots. And when a bunch of them get together…they resemble a “storm cloud”. Cerberus, anyone? Another interesting note is that Tonya does not speak and is not mentioned in this podcast… Soon afterwards, yet another podcast is discovered when a link from Dan’s website to another known website is discovered. This podcast focused on the Vik Institute and the letter that was found from the Director to Dr. Mittelwerk. Theories were thrown back and forth on the significance of testing autistic savants and their possible exploitation for evil schemes…but perhaps more significant was the fact that Tonya was once again absent. But unlike before, this time a sort of “voice loop” was used to give the impression that she was actually there. What would be the purpose of trying to fool people like that? The question remains…what happened to Tonya? And then…to round out “Act 1” there was the “grand finale”. Persephone updated her hacker page with a very interesting photograph of several items: a recorder, envelope, card, lipstick, umbrella, scissors, and eraser. This sounds rather uneventful…until it was realized that the first letter of each of these items could be combined to spell the word “RECLUSE”. On top of that, the “Life Extension Project” page of the Foundation’s website had been modified with a new text entry box. And of course…the needed password was recluse. During the course of the hack, the last name of the Director of the Vik Institute was also needed…”Zander”. This hack reveals some interesting information about the health of Alvar Hanso and the difficulty in locating him. It is also apparent from this hack that the Foundation goes to great lengths to make it appear that Mr. Hanso is still around and running the Foundation. Persephone makes it very clear, however, that she believes Dr. Mittelwerk is now running the show and is ultimately behind everything “bad” the Foundation is currently involved in. And then, once the hack is complete…you are completely barred from access into the Foundation’s website. It is unknown whether the website will ever be open to the public again. The next “Act” awaits… Source: https://thelostexperienceacts.blogspot.com/ Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: alpal78 on June 27, 2006, 05:02:16 PM Hi guys, sorry if this is out of place. Anyone know where I can download episode 16 from? I have all the episodes but 16. Oh and I cant use P2P, so torrent is out. Any normal websites you know of? Thanks
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on June 27, 2006, 05:46:18 PM how do i follow the lost experiance, is it too late??
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Geordiesned on June 27, 2006, 06:41:20 PM https://www.thehansofoundation.org/
Boooo! bluesigh.gif Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on June 27, 2006, 06:47:16 PM https://www.thehansofoundation.org/ Boooo! bluesigh.gif you called? Hope France v Spain is finished in 90 mins tonight, as want to see tonights C4 Lost again. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on June 27, 2006, 11:12:04 PM Hope France v Spain is finished in 90 mins tonight, as want to see tonights C4 Lost again. :cool: Everytime I watch that episode I can't help but be impressed by the quality and consistency of the directing/camerawork. Easily doubles the impact of the episode. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: 80 on July 05, 2006, 04:49:38 AM https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds34566.html
Quote Lost ep Carlton Cuse has promised to include more sex and romance in the show's upcoming third season. Speaking to Broadcast, Cuse said that the new season - airing in the US from September - would focus "more on the relations" between the characters. "It is organically the time where they can have relationships," he explained. "I am promising sex and hopefully it will be gratuitous." Three new characters will also be added to the mix, Cuse confirmed. Wondered if this was worth sticking in here. Sounds s***. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 05, 2006, 06:24:10 AM Why does it sound s***? The way he's talking (and the way the entire production team have been talking over the summer) character development and relationships won't exactly be the ONLY focus in season 3, but they'll be serviced more realistically than they were in the second season.
Season two, in terms of characters, was basically piss poor by comparison to season one, so it's an issue they need to address. It also makes sense that, after 60 days on the island, people ARE going to develop relationships with one another. The writers have to deal with that, otherwise they lose face. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on July 05, 2006, 02:23:56 PM Just finished watching the series 2. Downloaded off internet and watched them. Got exciting towards the end. Really want to know what happens to Jack and them and Locke and Eko
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on July 05, 2006, 02:34:55 PM Quote from: Digital Spy 'Lost' movie on the cards? by Susanna Regan Lost co-creator Damon Lindelof has revealed that he is considering making a film based on the hit television series. Concerned about pressures to prolong the show's success for as long as possible, the makers hope to focus on maintaining the quality of the series over a shorter period of time. Lindelof told WENN: "We'd love to end the show after four year, five years tops and do a movie." Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 05, 2006, 06:49:10 PM I'm not really drawn on the idea of ending it with a movie... Does that mean that they'll end the last ever TV episode on a cliffhanger? What would happen if the movie was scrapped half way through production after they'd already ended the TV series, would we ever actually get a conclusion?
The only way I could see it working would be if they did a spin-off story which filled in some of the islands past, perhaps, rather than focusing on the current bunch of characters. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on July 06, 2006, 12:59:28 PM I'm not really drawn on the idea of ending it with a movie... Does that mean that they'll end the last ever TV episode on a cliffhanger? What would happen if the movie was scrapped half way through production after they'd already ended the TV series, would we ever actually get a conclusion? The only way I could see it working would be if they did a spin-off story which filled in some of the islands past, perhaps, rather than focusing on the current bunch of characters. Plus fans of the TV show might not want to go and see the film but they would have to if they wanted to see what happened. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 07, 2006, 12:54:29 PM So the nominations for this years EMMYs have been announced, and are just absolutely baffling to be honest. Lost was only nominated in the following categories, despite being favourite to sweep-up most of the major awards:
1.) Outstanding Casting for a Drama 2.) Outstanding Cinematography For A Single-Camera Series ("Man of Science, Man of Faith") 3.) Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series - Jack Bender ("Live Together, Die Alone") 4.) Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing For A Drama Series ("One of Them") 5.) Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing For A Drama Series ("Live Together, Die Alone") 6.) Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama - Henry Ian Cusick 7.) Outstanding Single-Camera Sound Mixing For a Series ("Live Together, Die Alone") 8.) Outstanding Special Visual Effects For A Series ("Live Together, Die Alone") 9.) Outstanding Writting in a Drama - Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse ("The 23rd Psalm") Not even being nominated for best drama is quite harsh, but for none of the leading actors to get nominated is INCREDIBLE. Why is terry o'quinn not in there? Or Adawale A-A? How does Henry Ian Cussick (Desmond) get nominated, but not Michael Emerson? How on earth didn't Giacchino get nominated for Outstanding Musical Composition? Incredible. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 11, 2006, 12:24:25 AM Quote ABC drama LOST has moved to strengthen it's writing team as it heads into it's third season this fall. Many TV critics claimed that the main problem with LOST's second season - the main cause of it's inconsistencies - was a lack of variation in it's scriptwriting staff. The show only employed 8 regular writers in total last season, compared to 11 in the first season. Coming in for season three include Drew Goddard and Jeff Pinkner, who both have previous experience on the show having been storyline producers in season one. Goddard, known for strong character exploration, metophoric and dialogue-intensive writing wrote the script for the season one episode "Outlaws", in which the character "Sawyer" attempted to hunt down a troublesome boar, leading to a strong exploration of his motivations and his past, as well as his relationship with Kate. Pinkner, meanwhile, created the storyline for EMMY award winning episode "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues", which focused around a search for bad guy Ethan Rom, featured a powerful scene involving a near-death Charlie, and ended with the pivotal discovery of the hatch. Other writers coming into the fray are Monica Breen & Alison Schapker, who've done their best over the past 24 months to keep fellow ABC show "Alias" afloat, despite a lack of a head writer or any kind of solid direction from the network. They will join current writers Damon Lindelof, Carlton Cuse, Adam Horrowitz, Eddy Kitsis, Steve Maeda, Leonard Dick, Christina Kim and Liz Sarnoff in what looks a strong and extremely varied writing team for the third season of LOST. Some good additions there, definitely a very character-development centric team, with the exception of Lindelof, Cuse and Jeff Pinkner maybe. Pinkner coming back is pretty interesting. He basically follows JJ Abrams EVERYWHERE, so it makes me wonder if his return is also a sign that JJ may be coming back as well, as was rumoured a while back. That would be awesome for the show, even if he was just doing behind-the-scenes stuff and a bit of directing. Shame they couldn't get rid off Liz Sarnoff/Christina M Kim though. They do too much soppy stuff for my liking, and seem to ruin most of the major episodes they're given (Hunting Party, Abandoned etc etc). Can't win 'em all though, I suppose. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 11, 2006, 10:37:23 AM Some spoilery stuff from the tailsection.com:
Quote Now for the real spoilers. Your first question is... How trusted/accurate a source? Pretty trusted. Keep in mind these are not that awfully revealing in terms of plot, and some may be a rehash of things you've already heard. Here we go... - The first "sprint" of the season is a mini-season with a self contained arc running for six episodes and a larger arc being developed in the background. - The theme is very serialized this time around, less purely "character driven" episodes as those were thought to be dead spots for season two. - Remember the nursery for Claire and how many elements were derived from her background? Look for Kate, Jack, and Sawyer to have similar experiences. How much the others know about the losties and why is the big point of the initial arc. - What happened to Desmond, Eko, and Locke is directly tied to Kate, Jack, and Sawyer's situation with the others. - Henry Ian Cusick did infact sign on as a "guest star", as did the actress playing "Penelope". - The "failsafe" made some interesting physical changes to the island. Not a lot to go off there, but it's a start at least. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on July 11, 2006, 06:27:28 PM Some spoilery stuff from the tailsection.com: Quote Now for the real spoilers. Your first question is... How trusted/accurate a source? Pretty trusted. Keep in mind these are not that awfully revealing in terms of plot, and some may be a rehash of things you've already heard. Here we go... - The first "sprint" of the season is a mini-season with a self contained arc running for six episodes and a larger arc being developed in the background. - The theme is very serialized this time around, less purely "character driven" episodes as those were thought to be dead spots for season two. - Remember the nursery for Claire and how many elements were derived from her background? Look for Kate, Jack, and Sawyer to have similar experiences. How much the others know about the losties and why is the big point of the initial arc. - What happened to Desmond, Eko, and Locke is directly tied to Kate, Jack, and Sawyer's situation with the others. - Henry Ian Cusick did infact sign on as a "guest star", as did the actress playing "Penelope". - The "failsafe" made some interesting physical changes to the island. Not a lot to go off there, but it's a start at least. Hmm... interesting. Got any theorys? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 11, 2006, 09:13:20 PM Not so much "theories", but a few thoughts on each:
The first "sprint" of the season is a mini-season with a self contained arc running for six episodes and a larger arc being developed in the background. This, to me, seems to suggest that the Kate/Jack/Sawyer story will basically be the central storyline during the mini-season, and it will resolve itself at the end of the sixth episode. I think we'll probably see 4 seperate arcs during the mini-season: Main arc: Jack/Kate/Sawyer/The Others Main arc: Hurley returning to camp. How the dynamic of the beach group changes due to the loss of it's leaders. Secondary arc: The destruction of the hatch (?), and how this impacts the survivors. In particular the search for a new protective area, and a possible return to the caves. Underyling seasonal arc: The result of the key being turned/the Penny Widmore story. The theme is very serialized this time around, less purely "character driven" episodes as those were thought to be dead spots for season two I think this means that, basically, we'll be returning to a similar style of storytelling that we saw in season one. I think the plan will be to spread the main storyline elements over EVERY episode, rather than having 2 fillers then 2 meaning-of-life-revealing episodes as it was last season. Remember the nursery for Claire and how many elements were derived from her background? Look for Kate, Jack, and Sawyer to have similar experiences. How much the others know about the losties and why is the big point of the initial arc Not really sure about this one.... Perhaps like Claire; Jack, Kate and Sawyer will each have their own personal room (or prison, if you like), and it will be furnished in a way which is representative of their past? Maybe that's also where the flashbacks will emanate from, as they remember the various items from their pasts or whatever. What happened to Desmond, Eko, and Locke is directly tied to Kate, Jack, and Sawyer's situation with the others. This one's FAR too vague. No idea. Henry Ian Cusick did infact sign on as a "guest star", as did the actress playing "Penelope". From what I've heard Cusick has signed as a season regular, so again, I'm not really sure. The "failsafe" made some interesting physical changes to the island. Far, far, far too vague again. Physical changes could mean ANYTHING. I guess this could in some way be related to the purchase of underwater sets/cages that the crew have hired, though I have no idea how. It could also be refering to phsical changes for those ON the island; maybe due to the magnet exploding (or whatever) Locke will no longer be able to walk, and Rose will develop cancer again. Who knows? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Decky on July 11, 2006, 11:48:23 PM Maybe the magnetic explosive killed off the monster? or effected it in someway
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: CaliMag on July 12, 2006, 12:00:42 AM Maybe the magnetic explosive killed off the monster? or effected it in someway :thup:Interesting idea. Kind of like "Forbidden Planet" maybe the magnetic field is responsible/influential for the good mystical things about the island (its healing powers) as well as the bad mystical things (the monster). Good idea. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on July 12, 2006, 12:08:27 AM Quote - What happened to Desmond, Eko, and Locke is directly tied to Kate, Jack, and Sawyer's situation with the others. Prisoner swap? It intrigued me why the others didn't ask Michael to get Loke and Eko in the first place, remember Henry saying to Locke "you're one of the good ones, John" or something like that and they already tried to get Eko once before. - Henry Ian Cusick did infact sign on as a "guest star", as did the actress playing "Penelope". Does this mean they're not guaranteed to be in the next series? ie they're not long for this world? - The "failsafe" made some interesting physical changes to the island. No ideas. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: CaliMag on July 12, 2006, 12:16:14 AM Quote - What happened to Desmond, Eko, and Locke is directly tied to Kate, Jack, and Sawyer's situation with the others. Prisoner swap? It intrigued me why the others didn't ask Michael to get Loke and Eko in the first place, remember Henry saying to Locke "you're one of the good ones, John" or something like that and they already tried to get Eko once before. - Henry Ian Cusick did infact sign on as a "guest star", as did the actress playing "Penelope". Does this mean they're not guaranteed to be in the next series? ie they're not long for this world? - The "failsafe" made some interesting physical changes to the island. No ideas. Not a lot to go off there, but it's a start at least. Quote Some more good observations - if Desmond, Locke and Ekco survive then it would make sense that the Others would request a straight swap for the three "Leaders." Maybe we'll find out what makes the Others judge people as "good." Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 12, 2006, 12:17:57 AM Does this mean they're not guaranteed to be in the next series? ie they're not long for this world? Possibly. Though Michael Emerson, Mira Furlan, Sam Anderson (Bernard) and the bird who plays Rose were all guest stars in season one/two, and they're still alive. So "guest star" status doesn't mean you're only in it short-term. I'm still 99% sure that one of the producers (might have been Gregg Nations on thefuselage.com) accidentally slipped that he'd signed a full-time contract like. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on July 12, 2006, 12:23:15 AM Does this mean they're not guaranteed to be in the next series? ie they're not long for this world? Possibly. Though Michael Emerson, Mira Furlan, Sam Anderson (Bernard) and the bird who plays Rose were all guest stars in season one/two, and they're still alive. So "guest star" status doesn't mean you're only in it short-term. I'm still 99% sure that one of the producers (might have been Gregg Nations on thefuselage.com) accidentally slipped that he'd signed a full-time contract like. Yeah, just wondered why they'd made a big deal out of it only being a "guest star" contract. Hoping for more of Mira Furlan in the new season, Danielle is one of the best and most intriguing characters I reckon. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 12, 2006, 09:50:26 PM Some more good observations - if Desmond, Locke and Ekco survive then it would make sense that the Others would request a straight swap for the three "Leaders." Maybe we'll find out what makes the Others judge people as "good." Yeah, I quite like that idea. Although, would you consider Sawyer and Kate as "leaders"? Someone like Sayid would have made more sense, since he certainly fits the description better than Sawyer, who if anything, is the anti-leader of the group. The other question is still WHY didn't Zeke/Tom/Captain Birdseye take Sawyer, Jack, Kate AND Locke when he took their guns in "The Hunting Party"? The situation's obviously somehow changed since then, but in what way? It can't really have anything to do with Henry's experiences with the group, since he didn't have any kind of contact with the other "Others" when the list was made, so there has to be some kind of other contributive factor that we're all missing. Nothing really makes sense at the moment. It all seems contradictory no matter which way you look at it. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 13, 2006, 12:53:32 PM A pretty good article from thetailsection:
Quote “LOST” did not deserve ANY major Emmy nominations. Now, catch your breath; don’t bother clearing your eyes or re-reading that sentence... LOST did not deserve a major Nomination, period. Why? What amazes me most is that the fan base that spent the last season complaining about the inconsistency, the emergence of formula, the dead patches, the staccato execution of the underlying plot, the repeats, the plot holes, and etc. etc. ad infinitum, need to wonder now why ‘LOST’ was not nominated in a major category this year. The answer for me is, as it is for a lot of you, that the honeymoon is over. Now let me back up a second. I know I owe you an explanation for my point of view, and I will give it to you, but first I want to make sure I’m clear on one thing. I thought season two as a whole was brilliant. Flawed, but brilliant. My advice to jaded viewers all season long was to wait for the end then look back on it as a whole. “LOST” is a marathon, not a series of sprints like most dramas; you cannot reflect on an episode to episode basis because you are watching one long story unfold in pieces. Yes, yes, I know all the stuff about how at the heart of the show it is about people and characters and blah blah. I know all that mumbo jumbo. I don’t buy it, and that is part of why I don’t think they succeeded at a high enough level to get into a best show category, but I know people cling to it and I acknowledge it as part of the “LOST” phenomenon. The story is more than just the sum of its parts. On the other hand though, this is a show about a situation; a predicament that continues to change in very specific ways, guided by forces with very specific intents, and set in a locale with extremely unique and specific properties. At the end of the day, or the end of the season, we need to ask ourselves if significant progress was made in these areas; because without progress here, the season truly was a failure. And the answer to that question is a resounding yes. So half of the battle was won. But it just wasn’t enough… Before I get into the failings of Season Two, let’s look at Season One. Aside from the brilliant episodes, acting, and direction of Season One there was an extraordinary set of circumstances embedded in the genus of “LOST”. “LOST” was not developed to be the show that it is, “LOST” began as a notion fostered by a high powered exec with enough power to shield his production crew from the meddling that usually controls the creative energies at work in the development of a television show. Instead, highly creative individuals were thrown together with a very short amount of time, an unprecedented amount of money, a very bare concept, and total freedom. We all know the result very well. Most interesting about “LOST” was its constant “formula” bucking; just when you thought you had it pegged the show slithered into new territory and kept twisting until viewers lost all sense of direction and just surrendered to the ride. We wanted to know the answers…. What is the monster, what are the whispers, will they escape, and of course WHAT IS IN THE HATCH! To say the production team of season one had become experts at both introducing the disquieting twist and building anticipation would be the understatement of the decade. “LOST”, season one, was a moving target creatively; as much for its own staff as its fans. While it has been acknowledged in the most vague terms, it all boils down to that the writers, actors, directors, etc, only had the most rudimentary idea of where they were going and often times it was the speculation, kvetching, and theorizing of those in the back seat, us, that helped to shape the more rigid contours of the show. In simpler terms, it became about giving people what they wanted. The summer of 2005 was hot for more reasons then just global warming. The anticlimactic hatch opening of the season one finale put fans into a tailspin. The expectation was that we would find out what was in the hatch, but its significance would no be revealed until the new season. Instead fans were left cold. The scene which was intended to have that impact, the kidnapping of Walt, was completely muted in its significance by the question of what was down that deep, dark tunnel; and the answer became inextricably tied to the success of the show. Aside from that, criticism mounted that season one did nothing more than pose questions. Skeptical critics began to “assign” a formula to the show; one where the writers sought to purposefully infuse the tale with enigmatic questions with no intent or plan to resolve them. As a result, the talking points were passed around to cast and crew and everybody from Matthew Fox, Damon Lindelof, on down to the guy who duct tapes the cables together was parroting that “Season two is all about answering your questions.” Season Two was not produced under the same free circumstances as season one. When networks have a hit on their hands the pressure is on to sustain it. And if there is negative buzz, you can bet that pressure is going to be directed at silencing those critics. It’s not that I think “LOST” didn’t have a responsibility to answer the questions; but now, obviously, answering the questions had become part of the model. With regards to how they did on this side of the challenge, I would say pretty good. Without a doubt, fans have absorbed the Dharma Initiative, the others, Desmond (!), the hatches, the numbers, the Hanso foundation, and now four toed statues, ferries, and yet to be revealed locales as a part of the “LOST” universe. It is an amazing achievement that they were able to take the characters and locations of season one and integrate them with this whole new show. It really is a new show now. Things have changed so much in terms of what motivates their survival, who their adversaries are, why they are there, who is there with them, where they are going, and what their chances of escape are that the entire dynamic has not just shifted… it’s been picked up and dropped in another place. If this were done consistently, season two would have swept the nominations. Which leads me to my point… Lost season two became a conflicted show. Part of the excellence of season one was not knowing where you were going. Big beasts crashing through jungles arouses a “monster movie” sort of appeal. Miracle healings, a spiritual message. Big metal doors in the ground, a sci-fi element. Disembodied whispers, a ghostly supernatural feel. Among this, characters with mysterious pasts whose presents seem to be inextricably tied to the mistakes of yore. Now they would resolve all of this, but at the same time try to keep the “formula” of season one in effect. And therein lays the problem. In between the brilliantly laid out exposition of just what was going on with the island, really just the tip of a much larger story itself, there was a clear effort to maintain the character development at the pace and effectiveness of season one. Somewhere along the line somebody decided that character development needed to be separated from story telling, the results were episodes which dealt with the people and abandoned the underlying story. These breaks were justified by the producers because at the end of the day, this is a show about people. A completely inane concept that, in my opinion, cost the show a focus and direction that could have carried “LOST” into the record books and armed the naysayers who were just waiting for it to falter. Let’s be honest with ourselves here, when the focus switched to the people we not only lost the rhythm of the story the show also became dangerously invested in its capacity to be a character drama. Worse yet, the mission seemed to be designed to continue to turn the characters away from what we knew of them in season one. Who wants season one John Locke back? Surely the guy who got the Emmy nom for playing him last year. Terry O’Quinn himself has been quoted as saying he misses John Locke of season one. The canned response is that Locke is going through changes. But when people feel so disconnected from the character of season one that they refer to him as a different person, is it really that person going through the changes? We didn’t see Locke change. We saw another persona dropped in his skin. One that did not begin or arrive where the Locke of season one was taking us. And I’m not Locke obsessed here, I think the same is true for many of the characters. Matthew Fox, whose career is doing just fine regardless, would probably have loved a rematch for the best actor nick-knack. But he didn’t get it. Why? Maybe because you have to do more then peel onions every episode to show your depth. Seriously, just how many times did Jack cry this season? The man needs a towel, not an Emmy. What saves the show is the return to baseline of these characters in less “interpersonal” work, and the crop of newbies that have stuck like one of Locke’s bowies in the belly of a razor back. In particular, the character of Desmond which brought a nom to actor Henry Ian Cusick. The bottom-line, season two was near greatness but interrupted by the attempt to “force” the magic of season one. Yes, time has changed everything. The freedom of the beginning is gone and will never be back. There are executives to please. The pressure was on to show continued innovation, but the transition to this new way of telling the story demanded that some facets be left behind. Most shameful is the assumption that a “formula” had a role in the success of “LOST” to begin with. For "LOST" to work its way back up to the top of the Emmy noms in 2007, they must return to the "no formula" story telling of season one. That means attracting and holding onto writing talent like David Fury and Javier Grillo Marxuach instead of dumping them for inside players. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 15, 2006, 01:29:03 PM From Spoilerfix:
Quote * new 07/14 - Juliet, a woman in her mid-30s, will be added to the cast as a regular. Juliet is a natural leader and a smart and independant woman. One of her flashbacks (?) will involve her mother Amelia. During said falshback, the ladies will discuss burnt brownies and Juliet's love life. It seems that Juliet may be an Other. Jack is held alone in a room and Juliet looks at him, seperated from him with a glass window. Jack tries to break the chains that are holding him. Juliet tries to convince a pissed off Jack to trust her. Source: SpoilerFix.com [Note: It is unknown when those scenes will be seen and if they will be part of an episode.] "Other" flashbacks early in the season? Very, very interesting. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 17, 2006, 12:12:59 PM Have any of you guys "aquired" the pilots for Jericho and Traveler yet? If not I suggest you do, both are going to be awesome.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on July 17, 2006, 05:02:38 PM I take it you don't mean this Jericho?
https://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/8818 Spill the beans Penry!! Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 17, 2006, 05:07:30 PM Dear god no! Jericho... End of the world disaster-drama from CBS.
Traveler is the better of the two, it's kinda like prison break without the prison. Or the break. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on July 17, 2006, 05:19:07 PM Think you could use your ninja skills to pm me a link, please?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 17, 2006, 05:20:33 PM Look in the admin section;
Open your eyes; You will get a nice surprise. (Anybody else can PM me) Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on July 17, 2006, 05:23:44 PM bluebigeek.gif Cheers. :thup:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 19, 2006, 02:32:56 PM Quote LOST Co-creator JJ Abrams has confirmed that he will be more directly involved in the show's third season than he has been in the past. He told TV GUIDE "I definitely look to be more involved this season than I was last season. I'm looking forward to directing an episode, and also writing a few scripts too." The news will be exciting for fans of the show given Abrams' talent at producing cinematic masterpieces. And that's not the only thing they have to be excited about, Abrams went on to say "Season three is looking really, really good. The writers already have most of the season mapped out, and some of the stories are already looking absolutely fantastic. Mind-blowing, you know?" Although his lips were tightly sealed as to what those stories would involve, he did give off one piece of key information regarding the fate of Desmond, who we last saw turning a system override key in the season two finale "Desmond isn't dead" he reassured us. "But the situation in the hatch is going to have massive consequences for all those who were involved." Tune into the season premiere on September 27th to find out what he means by that... Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 20, 2006, 10:09:14 PM Stuff from the latest Aussielo report:
Quote - Season is split into 6 Episode followed by 16 - Strong hints about Libby's past being told - Season Premiere on October 4th - The captivity story [with Jack, Kate and Sawyer] will definitely be addressed in the Premiere - Announcment next week on the 3 new Roles - This season we will learn a lot more about the Others, their society and their history. - There will be several new romances on the show this year - Locke will be a very different person in Season 3 - Penny will be an important character for Season 3 - The interrelationship between the outside world and the island will be something that will be a part of Season 3. - The monster and the polar bear will be back in Season 3 - The smoke creature and the monster are one and the Same - Are Walt and Michael gone forever? Not necessarily - JJ is going to cowrite the premiere with Damon https://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2006/07/various-spoilers-ausiello-report.html Most of that's already known, but some of it's still pretty interesting. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 20, 2006, 10:21:00 PM The entire thing:
Quote What can you tell me about the show's first six episodes? Carlton Cuse: Damon and I are designing the show as a sort of miniseason. We almost view the first six as a miniseries. And it's going to answer what we left hanging at the end of the finale. Obviously, we're going to explain what happened to Locke and Desmond and Eko, and sort of deal with the fact that Sawyer and Kate and Jack are in captivity. We really love the idea of having this little six-episode [arc], and we have a whole story design with a conclusion and a cliff-hanger that will hopefully keep the audience curious and hanging and excited about coming back in January for the longer run of episodes. Are you happy about the scheduling move? Cuse: We're ecstatic. We couldn't be happier. Damon and I got so many complaints last year from the fans about frustration over the repeats, and feeling so confused about when Lost was going to be on. The impatience of having to wait two or three weeks before the story could continue. Now when Lost is on, it's on. Would you have liked to have gotten more then six episodes up front? Cuse: The problem, ultimately, is that we physically cannot produce more than 22, 23 or 24 hours. We did 24 hours of the show last year, and it nearly killed us. We were simultaneously producing episodes 22, 23 and 24 at the end of the season with three different crews. It's such a hard show to make, and yet there are 35 weeks in the prime-time season. We wish we could make 35 episodes of Lost; we just can't. There are always going to be compromises in scheduling the show. And [ABC president] Steve McPherson decided, I think very smartly, that it would be way too long to wait until January to have the show back on again. That was the other choice: to come back on in January and run straight through to May, but I think it's better and more satisfying for the fans to have a pod in the fall. To not have to wait from May until January for the show to be back on. But we like it. We see those six episodes as a little miniseries, and it's going to be intense and hyped and high-octane. Will Cynthia Watros (Libby) be back in flashback? Cuse: We would love to tell more chapters of Libby's life, in the same way that you've got Jack's father's story. That character was dead from the word go, but that doesn't mean we haven't learned and seen his story over the course of the series. We would love to sort of finish up Cynthia's story, but if I were specific about that it would spoil the surprise of our storytelling. Will the Oct. 4 season premiere pick up where we left off? Cuse: We pick up where we left off, but obviously there are different stories on different parts of the island and, you know, we will get to all of them in the first few episodes. But like last year, we didn't deal with the raft survivors in the first episode. Not everything is going to be answered in the first episode. But the captivity story [with Jack, Kate and Sawyer] will definitely be addressed. Where are you in terms of casting three new roles? Cuse: We are right in the middle of it. We hope to have announcements next week. We're casting two female roles and one new male role. I can't tell you where [the characters] are going to come from, but obviously, one of the things we're doing this year on the show is... learning a lot more about the Others, and their society and their history. So it might be fair to say that you're going to learn more about some other characters who are also Others. I hear we're finally going to get some romance on the show this season. It's the season of sex! Cuse: Finally, yes! I wouldn't call it the season of sex, but I will say that romance will play a much more active part of the show this year.... We actually meant to get to it last year. We didn't really get to romance as fast as we thought we were going to. So, this year that's definitely on [our] agenda. Are we talking Jack and Kate? Cuse: I think actually one of these new female characters is going to be a romantic interest, possibly for Jack. Is she going to be the third part of the triangle that was initially planned for Michelle Rodriguez? Cuse: Yeah, exactly. And it's not going to be just one new romance. There will be several new romances on the show this year... The second season was a little darker, a little more intense, a little more mythology-oriented, and I think that this year we're looking to make the show a little bit brighter, a little bit more vibrant, a little bit more on the action-adventure axis, a little bit more on the romance axis. We were interior, we were down underground in the hatch, it was very monochromatic. I don't think the show will be as dark and as intense this year. And it will be, I think, even more on the character axis than on the mythological axis. Is the empiricism vs. faith issue still core to the show? Cuse: I think it's one of those issues that's never really resolved. I mean, I think, in essence, the show is constantly about empiricism vs. faith. Many of the things that happen on the show are debatable on that axis. Was this something that was supernatural, or is there a logical explanation – and which one is the truth? That's part of what Lost is all about, and we actually like the ambiguity of those story choices that we make because it allows the audience to sort of participate and engage in that debate themselves. How will Locke be different? Cuse: John Locke will be a very different person in Season 3. All of his questions and his doubts and his uncertainty have been answered. In fact, the button did mean something. And there was something at stake. And I think that will bring about a change in that character. How big a role will Penny have? Cuse: Penny is an important character in the overarching mythology of the show. I don't want to say too much about how much she's going to be in Season 3. Will the outside world play a significant role this season? Cuse: Yeah. The interrelationship between the outside world and the island will be something that will be a part of Season 3. And the monster? Cuse: Yes, the monster will be a part of Season 3, as will the polar bear. People are asking what happened to the polar bear, so we will be doing some polar bear stories. People also want to know what happened to that thing that ate the pilot in the, um, pilot. Cuse: That was the monster. He wasn't really devoured. When we saw Greg Grunberg he was hanging 70 feet in the air on a tree branch. He was dead but he wasn't swallowed. The smoke creature and the monster are one and the same. Are Walt and Michael gone forever? Cuse: Not necessarily. They still remain a part of the overall mythology of Lost. But as to when we will revisit their story, that's not something I can answer. But we will not immediately be getting back to Michael's story. Malcolm David Kelley will be getting older and taller. That has to be a consideration when you plan his story. Cuse: It's something that we've accounted for. What about Cindy the missing flight attendant? Cuse: She's a personal favorite of yours, isn't she? I hope Cindy shows up at some point. Let's just say we have many actors on our show; she is not at the top of the list of actors we're servicing. Any firm plans for J.J. Abrams to write/direct any episodes? Cuse: J.J. is going to cowrite the premiere with Damon, and our hope is he will direct Episode 7, which will be the first episode of the new pod. Were you bummed about the Emmy snub? Cuse: Obviously, we're disappointed. We feel like we did a really good season of the show. But in the bigger picture, Damon and I are so overwhelmed by the success of the show, both critically and ratings-wise.... I mean, it wasn't our year for that to happen, and that's OK. Source: https://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700004134 Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 23, 2006, 12:51:24 AM Some spoilers and random stuff from Comicon:
- Season three will focus more on adventure. - We'll learn more about The Others and Alex's story. - According to Lindelof, an event will happen mid-season that will "either blow people away or make them think the show has jumped the shark!". - J.J. Abrams will co-write the first episode with Damon Lindelof, which is titled "The Tale of Two Cities" and will direct the seventh episode. - They are adding new regular characters, which they are casting for now. - You'll see more scenes from the outside world - Desmond and Penny's relationship forms a new seed for a new element in the series. - Libby will be back. - Within the first few episodes Kate "gets with someone". - They are going to explain the medical miracles this season. - They debunked the rumor that the monster is a cloud nanobot, and Lindelof said "the word 'clone' will never be used in lost. We have nothing against clones - afterall, they're people too - but they just don't fit into our mythology". - The hieroglyphics on the countdown clock are signs of the underworld. - They have 4 to 5 seasons planned out, and they knew the beginning and ending from the start. Going beyond 5 seasons would be stretching it, and Lindelof stated that he and Carlton Cuse would leave the show should ABC want to stretch it out too long. - If they introduce a question on the show, they already know the answer. - They do look at fans' reactions and that does affect how they do things on the show. - They showed a promo for the 13 "Lost" diaries that will be on Verizon, which featured Hugo finding a camera and interviewing people on the island. - A "Lost" game from Ubisoft is coming next year which features a new story. - On the season two DVD, you can expect one feature which has all of Sawyer's famous lines! https://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2006/07/whole-host-of-spoilers-from-comic-con.html Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: The Janitor on July 23, 2006, 01:14:06 AM I have never seen a single episode of this show, but I have spent hours listening to people rave about it.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on July 23, 2006, 08:05:33 PM I have never seen a single episode of this show, but I have spent hours listening to people rave about it. :thup: is it time to remove the poll? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 23, 2006, 08:10:40 PM Yes.
Man of Science, Man of Fath wins. Well done mate. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 23, 2006, 11:54:28 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdHUO8zbNEM
Crazy :lol: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BlufPurdi on July 23, 2006, 11:56:14 PM Cringeworthy, to be honest. Not the thing itself, but the typical American reaction of screaming and clapping.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 24, 2006, 12:03:07 AM Yeah, all the people screaming "OMG RAACHHEL!!! YOU TELL 'EM RACHEL!" made me went to shove a knife through my monitor.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on July 24, 2006, 12:06:26 AM who is this Penny?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on July 24, 2006, 12:07:11 AM is it Desmond's wife?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 24, 2006, 12:10:16 AM Penny is Desmond's girfriend.
Why? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny2J on July 24, 2006, 12:12:40 AM Yeah, all the people screaming "OMG RAACHHEL!!! YOU TELL 'EM RACHEL!" made me went to shove a knife through my monitor. We all know you were one of them. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on July 24, 2006, 12:12:43 AM Penny is Desmond's girfriend. Why? It's just I didn't recognise the name Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 24, 2006, 12:20:33 AM Yeah, all the people screaming "OMG RAACHHEL!!! YOU TELL 'EM RACHEL!" made me went to shove a knife through my monitor. We all know you were one of them. Ah, but how do you know? Were you there too? Are you the one who asked Hurley to take his pants off? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Decky on July 24, 2006, 12:21:00 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Ag0LvxfHE&NR
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 24, 2006, 12:27:24 AM Wow. She is a REALLY bad actress.
Would probably make a pretty good replacement for Michelle Rodriguez. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 24, 2006, 12:49:55 AM A decent theory on Henry Gale/Radzinski, quite similar to what I posted after the finale:
Quote So a few of us have been rolling around in a few different threads with the idea that Fenry is actually Radzinski - I figured we needed a thread that has all the evidence in one spot...stay with me here Kelvin told Desmond that his old hatch partner, Radzinksi, "had a photographic memory" so he was able to draw the blast door map. He also said he was the one who figured out how to fake a lockdown to bring down/up the blast doors. We know Radzinksi edited the orientation film to exclude the piece about using the computer to communicate with others. We know that Kelvin had it in him to mislead Desmond because he was planning on sailing away to leave Desmond in the hatch by himself. Now for the Fenry connection. Fenry was knocked unconscious when he was dragged to the Swan hatch. Somehow he was able to draw a map to a balloon that was a 2 day trek across the island, including landmarks along the way - all without knowing where he was. This says two things: He knew what the swan hatch was (if he was Radzinksi that obviously make sense) and that he has a great memory (which fits Kelvin's description of a photographic memory). Fenry was locked in a room where he had no way of knowing what hatch he was in - so even if he knew the location of the swan because he's an Other, he wouldn't know what hatch he was in. But he DID know what hatch he was in because he's Radzinski. In Lockedown, Fenry crawled through the vents, hit the button, crawled back, and helped out Locke. Radzinksi knew how to control the blast doors and reveal the blast door map. Coincidence that when Fenry is out of sight in the button pushing room - the map illuminates AND the blast doors raise up? Sure it could be coincidence, but if Fenry is Radzinski, he was showing Locke the map HE drew and would know how to raise the blast doors. Fenry also shows no problem remembering the numbers when Locke tells him, but when the lostaways first have to push it, they needed to write them down a piece of paper attached to the monitor...Locke was even about to enter them incorrectly for his first time until Jack showed up. Fenry knew them because he had done it a million times before. Although being an other he’s probably been exposed to those numbers before – so he knew the numbers already, but was unaware they were used in the hatch…that definitely could be =/ Fenry getting caught in a net never felt right to me - I've always felt he was trying to get back to the swan hatch - HIS hatch - for some reason...he may (and most likely) have known the lostaways were there though. Here's the part thats more of a stretch: I think, as many others do, that the Others were all Dharma workers before they were "Others". Backtrack: The Swan orientation edited piece says that it's important they don’t communicate with the outside world so they can avoid another incident. To me this means that "communication" caused "the incident". I believe "the incident" was Radzinski (to make this more probable, it could have been any Dharma member) communicating by the computer to other members (in other hatches I assume) and they formed an island wide revolt - The birth of The Others. And Radzinksi joining/starting the Others would tie in how he became who we call Fenry. Radzinski was obviously against Dharma, and pro communication, which gives great motivation for editing the tape, and seeing as he would have been moving around the island AND would have been in communication with other hatches - explains how that edited piece landed in another hatch. I think Kelvin lied to Desmond about Radzinksi blowing his brains out. If Kelvin told Desmond the truth - Des would become even more skeptical of what Kelvin was doing outside the hatch. Kelvin was planning to leave Desmond JUST like Radzinski did to Kelvin. Kelvin’s bitterness towards Radzinksi leaving and his distain for fearing an unpushed button explains why he refers to Radzinski's rebellious group as "The Hostiles"...Desmond later refers to them as well. We know Kelvin deceived Desmond about the boat, it would be no surprise if he lied about Radzinski. I would not be surprised AT ALL if in a Fenry flashback we see him waking up and doing his daily duties inside the hatch - our hatch...Finding out he had worked in the hatch before the lostaways got there sounds like a great season opener and/or end to the first streak of episodes. The man we thought was actually on our turf for once was actually home again. Maybe they'd show us a flashback of what Fenry really did when he was on the other side of the blast doors...a la-the first few episodes of season two repeating the same event from a different persons prespective? Some of it's far fetched, but I'd say at least half of that is absolutely bang on. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: madras on July 24, 2006, 01:13:49 AM rumour has it,it's a tele programme
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 24, 2006, 01:22:05 AM You're not wrong...
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on July 24, 2006, 11:41:32 AM Some of it's far fetched, but I'd say at least half of that is absolutely bang on. I think it's pretty much spot on. The Others have definately got something to do with the DHARMA thing and the fact that Desmond and the hatch people were told not to go outside. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 24, 2006, 07:43:43 PM Quote Lost fans will see the return of the real John Locke next season, according to series co-creator Damon Lindelof. Speaking at comic-con Lindelof teased "Terry O'Quinn's really been nagging us over his character recently, y'know... He keeps telling us how much he wants to have a knife in his hand again next season"... After a momentary pause, Lindelof almost brought the entire crowd to it's feet when he added "And who the hell are we to deny him!?" :cool: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on July 24, 2006, 07:46:38 PM Despite thinking the season 2 finale was fantastic, the scene of Locke in the hatch during the system failure didnt seem to fit him. He looked too wimpish cowering slightly as all hell broke loose saying "I was wrong!" I expected him to be a bit more lively in that scene.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 24, 2006, 07:59:18 PM I dunno. I guess he was just overwhelmed with shock because he didn't think anything was going to happen... Or because he was right all along, something like that anyway. I suppose the fact that he WAS right all along will be what leads to him getting back to his season one self, maybe he'll follow his beliefs even more vehemently now.
1 is RACING away in that pole btw. 2 needs some sympathy votes. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 26, 2006, 03:35:50 PM Quote Lost has found its new mystery man — and you're reading about it here first! Rodrigo Santoro, best known to American audiences as the hot dude Laura Linney crushed on in Love Actually, is joining the cast this fall. I know what you're thinking, "Rodrigo... Whatchoo Talkin' 'Bout Willis?" That was my initial reaction, too. Well, the 30-year-old actor may not be a household name here in the States, but there apparently is no bigger movie star in Brazil than him. Don't take my word for it though. Read on as Lost boys Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse proudly discuss their latest find. I have to admit, I'm not all that familiar with Rodrigo's work. Carlton: You haven't seen Carandiru or Behind the Sun or Brainstorm? You're a little behind the curve. (Laughs) Rodrigo has won, like, eight best actor awards, including the first ever best actor award for the Brazilian Academy of Arts and Film. He's a huge star in Brazil. Damon: He keeps getting described to us as the Brazilian Tom Cruise. Carlton: Although we like to refer to him as the Brazilian Russell Crowe. He's also the mystery man opposite Nicole Kidman in those Chanel commercials that Baz Luhrmann directed, and the surfer dude in Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle. He was the hunk in the beach scene with Demi Moore. Damon: The ladies like it when he takes his shirt off — not to say he'll be competing with Sawyer in that category. But the hunk thing must've been a big factor in his casting. Carlton: Only so far as there's going to be a certain expectation for the character based on his looks. Damon: On [Lost], what you see is never what you get. We also think he is an incredibly talented actor. He's a guy who's perfect for Lost because he's a face that the American audience is not familiar with, but he's been in the business long enough, you know, [that he's also] an awesome actor that makes some really interesting choices. And he's certainly not interested in being the hunk on the show, nor are we interested in writing that for him. Although I think when people start to see him and surmise what role he's going to play on the show that's the place they're going to go to. "More eye candy for Lost!" Carlton: We don't really want to be at all specific about what we're doing with the character or what he's going to play. Part of the surprise and the enjoyment of watching the show is sort of getting a chance to meet a new character and see how his role is going to unfold in relation to the rest of the cast. Brazilian actor eh? Could his character possibly be related to the snow station guys per chance? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 27, 2006, 08:57:07 PM Some info about 3x01:
Quote 3x01 - A Tale of Two Cities (Written by JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof, Directed by Jack Bender) Kate centric. flashbacks feature two new recurring characters. Amelia is a warm motherly type in her 60's and Karl is 20 yrs old and is handsome and sardonic. Word on the street is that 3.02 is Locke-centric, and 3.03 is Jack-centric. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Elephant on July 27, 2006, 08:59:44 PM What street?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 27, 2006, 09:02:00 PM My street.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on July 27, 2006, 09:11:40 PM You reckon we'll see a Jack flashback without tears?
I'm guessing it'll be a tale from when he was just starting surgery under the guidance of Papa Shepherd. Lockes flashback to show how he ended up disabled? I think he gets shot in the legs by those heavies. Although that might be too obvious. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 27, 2006, 09:21:26 PM The jackback will probably be about his time in Pucket; how he learned to play poker, and why he got his tatoos etc. I think Locke's will go into what happened after Helen left him. It might cover his wheelchair incident, but I have a feeling they'll leave that until his second flashback.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 27, 2006, 11:22:36 PM And btw if it DOES go Kate, Locke then Jack, it'll be yet another throwback to season one (which the writers have been banging on about all summer). Leaving aside the pilot, the flashbacks went in the same order then.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on July 27, 2006, 11:26:53 PM Take away her looks and Kate is my least favourite character. The early episodes in season 1 suggested she was going to be some sort of uber-villain yet her crimes were presented in a very sympathetic fashion.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 27, 2006, 11:31:45 PM Yeah, I kind of agree. In season one she was pretty determined to be a part of everything and keep her past a secret, and later on she was determined to get off the island on the raft. In season two they removed her of any motivations, and dumbed her down to only playing a minor part in the story; the love triangle.
They need to use this episode to give the character some drive again. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 27, 2006, 11:39:04 PM ... And she isn't the only character who needs servicing either. Charlie still has no motivations beyond drugs and Claire. Claire has no motivations beyond her baby. Sawyer's interaction has become limited to Kate, Jack and the odd cameo comedy appearence with Hurley. All Jack does nowadays is take the huff with John/Sawyer/Kate and strop around in tears. Sun and Jin hardly talk to anyone other than each other and maybe Kate every once in a while.... I could go on and on and on.
They need to put as much focus as possible into making the characters real again, the mythology can wait. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: gonufc on July 27, 2006, 11:51:54 PM Does Mr Eko feature in season 3?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 27, 2006, 11:59:26 PM He's listed as a series regular still, so yeah.
Unless he dies of course. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: ewerk on July 28, 2006, 12:08:47 AM Eko should've been one of the first flashbacks, unless they're saving it for the first episode after the break.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 28, 2006, 12:54:16 PM I think Eko will be mid-season again. He just had one a few episodes back.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Geordiesned on July 28, 2006, 01:37:20 PM Does anyone read the Lost magazine. It's canny like. 8)
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 28, 2006, 01:41:21 PM I don't, surprisingly. I don't think anywhere local to me sells it.
What kind of content does it have? I think I've read a few spoilery interviews with Javi which have been taken from it in the past, which were pretty interesting. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Geordiesned on July 28, 2006, 01:52:10 PM Anyone visited here yet? Bizarre site. Not really sure what to do!
https://www.hansoexposed.com/ Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: alpal78 on July 30, 2006, 04:54:00 PM Ok huys, I finally managed to watch all the episodes (yeah I know I'm late) and read some of the interesting observations on this thread, just a few things are bugging me:
1) Did the button do anything? I read on another website that it had no effect as nothing happened to anyone in the end (well excpet for maybe Eko and Locke). But couldnt that be because Desmond unleashed the safety vavlve and if he didnt, then thing would have got messy. Those who think that the button had an effect points out to the plane crash as the ssame day of the previous system failure. But this can be countered by the fact that the plane was already 100 miles off course before it crashed, so there had to be some other forces that brough the plane to the island. Besides if the system failure did bring the plane down, how come teh swan hatch remains intact, surely the release of such powerful EM would have blown the hatch as well unles the plane was shot at with some targetted EM weapon. The thing is I'm confused, I have no idea whether the button has any impact (i.e was it real or just a psyco experiment with no impact at all) Would be great to hear ur opinions on this 2) Why was Ana Lucio's role ended early? I read somewhere that she was supposed to be in a love triangle with Jack and Kate? 3) Who the hell is Cindy (which flight attendent?) and Cynthia., Their names keep popping out but I have no recollections of either character? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: 80 on July 30, 2006, 05:18:28 PM 3) Who the hell is Cindy? Her name keeps popping out but I have no recollections of the character? She's the one who gave Jack a drink on the plane. She was with Eko's mob, but on the trek to the other side of the island, disappeared without anyone noticing until later. How or why she disappeared isn't known, but it was assumed that the Others picked her off. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: alpal78 on July 30, 2006, 05:46:47 PM 3) Who the hell is Cindy? Her name keeps popping out but I have no recollections of the character? She's the one who gave Jack a drink on the plane. She was with Eko's mob, but on the trek to the other side of the island, disappeared without anyone noticing until later. How or why she disappeared isn't known, but it was assumed that the Others picked her off. Thanks and Cynthia? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: 80 on July 30, 2006, 06:05:54 PM 3) Who the hell is Cindy? Her name keeps popping out but I have no recollections of the character? She's the one who gave Jack a drink on the plane. She was with Eko's mob, but on the trek to the other side of the island, disappeared without anyone noticing until later. How or why she disappeared isn't known, but it was assumed that the Others picked her off. Thanks and Cynthia? Can't think who she is, I'm s*** with names :D Actually, no, isn't she supposed to be the Fiance of the other one... that bloke... Long hair, Scottish, went sailing for a couple of weeks. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 30, 2006, 06:17:16 PM 3) Who the hell is Cindy? Her name keeps popping out but I have no recollections of the character? She's the one who gave Jack a drink on the plane. She was with Eko's mob, but on the trek to the other side of the island, disappeared without anyone noticing until later. How or why she disappeared isn't known, but it was assumed that the Others picked her off. Thanks and Cynthia? Cynthia probably = Cynthia Wartros, the actress who plays Libby. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: alpal78 on July 30, 2006, 06:48:10 PM 3) Who the hell is Cindy? Her name keeps popping out but I have no recollections of the character? She's the one who gave Jack a drink on the plane. She was with Eko's mob, but on the trek to the other side of the island, disappeared without anyone noticing until later. How or why she disappeared isn't known, but it was assumed that the Others picked her off. Thanks and Cynthia? Cynthia probably = Cynthia Wartros, the actress who plays Libby. Andy, you have some interesting theories on this thread. What is ur take on the buttons? Was it real or just some bollocks used for some psycho experiment? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 30, 2006, 07:03:30 PM I'm pretty sure it was real; we clearly saw the magnet charging with the countdown clock being crushed, washing machines being thrown around etc etc. And more significantly, the writers have stated that it DID play a part in the crash, and we have to take their word on it really. The question about why the hatch wasn't destroyed completely is interesting, but I'd guess that it was probably built so that the outside world would take the brunt of any kind of impact, and the inside would be protected.
It could all still quite easily be part of an experiment. You just have to look at Henry Gale and chums' reaction to the sky going white to see that; they seemed to be almost expectant, and totally unsurprised afterwards. We won't know for sure until october. If I had to guess, I'd say that those inside are all alive, and turning the key had some other kind of effect (maybe opening a hidden doorway; something along those lines). Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: James on July 30, 2006, 07:12:04 PM I'd forgotten about all those blocked tunnels which Sayid discovered. Perhaps they will become unblocked.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on July 30, 2006, 07:31:08 PM I'm pretty sure it was real; we clearly saw the magnet charging with the countdown clock being crushed, washing machines being thrown around etc etc. And more significantly, the writers have stated that it DID play a part in the crash, and we have to take their word on it really. The question about why the hatch wasn't destroyed completely is interesting, but I'd guess that it was probably built so that the outside world would take the brunt of any kind of impact, and the inside would be protected. It could all still quite easily be part of an experiment. You just have to look at Henry Gale and chums' reaction to the sky going white to see that; they seemed to be almost expectant, and totally unsurprised afterwards. We won't know for sure until october. If I had to guess, I'd say that those inside are all alive, and turning the key had some other kind of effect (maybe opening a hidden doorway; something along those lines). I still wonder why the hatch was left unscathed by the first time that the counter was allowed to go beyond zero (ie when Dessie let it happen causing the crash), surely if the EM was powerful enough to pull a plane from the sky, it would have damaged stuff in the hatch, like it did this time. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 30, 2006, 07:42:09 PM Again, the only explanation I can think of is that the power of the magnet is focused outwards, towards the sky, and it doesn't have as huge an effect on the things outside of it's line of sight. The hatch may well be built out of materials that nullify the force of the magnet too; when Henry gale was captured he said he worked in "non-metalic minerals" - maybe the entire hatch is built using these minerals, and is therefore pretty much immune to the magnetic power that the magnet gives off (at least until it gets itself REALLY charged up, as it did when it crushed the timer).
We did see the odd thing flying around when it counted down in the flashback, but desmond managed to deactivate it before it got too severe. That begs the question; if it was charged enough to bring down a plane after only about 20 seconds then, what could it potentially bring down now after being at full power for a few minutes? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on July 30, 2006, 07:51:04 PM Again, the only explanation I can think of is that the power of the magnet is focused outwards, towards the sky, and it doesn't have as huge an effect on the things outside of it's line of sight. The hatch may well be built out of materials that nullify the force of the magnet too; when Henry gale was captured he said he worked in "non-metalic minerals" - maybe the entire hatch is built using these minerals, and is therefore pretty much immune to the magnetic power that the magnet gives off (at least until it gets itself REALLY charged up, as it did when it crushed the timer). We did see the odd thing flying around when it counted down in the flashback, but desmond managed to deactivate it before it got too severe. That begs the question; if it was charged enough to bring down a plane after only about 20 seconds then, what could it potentially bring down now after being at full power for a few minutes? Satellite or a submarine, I reckon. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: alpal78 on July 30, 2006, 07:51:56 PM Ok if the EM energy was dangerous and had a real impact, then how come when the safety valve was released and presumably allowed all the EM energy to escape, all we saw was a loud noise and the sky changing colours without any real damage.
The thing that confuses me is that the non pressing of the button and turning the key to release teh valve seemed to do the same thing i.e release EM energy but whilst the former brought a plane down, the latter didnt do much? Below was a review that Andy posted previously which also argues that the EM energy was not dangerous. Quote What exactly does this episode reveal? The Swan station is, in fact, sitting on some kind of tapped electromagnetic energy. Energy which may or may not be stable, since prior to the arrival of the Dharma Initiative in 1980, it was probably right there on the island all along without causing a single problem. The Swan station was constructed on top of that and appears to have been used to build up the EM energy and regulate it. The very existence of the failsafe, a device to unleash the harnessed energy and remove the Swan station from the equation completely, undermines any argument that the unusual EM fields were particularly dangerous in the first place. The implication of the orientation film was that an accident took place, requiring the systematic release of EM energy every 108 minutes. But that assumes that the built-up EM energy would release in an immediate EM pulse with a wide enough spectrum to wash out the sky in visible light. Why build a failsafe that would wipe out the station if the station was the only thing “saving the world”? The answer is: it wouldn’t be built. Wiping out the regulation of the EM energy wouldn’t be an option. So the implication is fairly obvious: the existence of the EM energy, already useful for other Hanso/Dharma experiments, was used as a pretext for the psychological experiment being carried out in the Swan station. Here’s the logic: set up a situation that will have an actual, discernable local effect. Make sure that effect is as disconcerting as possible. Then attach a system to regulate it, and build up the consequences of that task to massive proportions in the minds of those charged with the job. Study the effects. And what’s more, study the effects of studying the effects. (Does anyone really expect that the Pearl station wasn’t also under observation from another location? Like, say, the true headquarters of the Others?) What do u guys think? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 30, 2006, 08:39:13 PM Ok if the EM energy was dangerous and had a real impact, then how come when the safety valve was released and presumably allowed all the EM energy to escape, all we saw was a loud noise and the sky changing colours without any real damage. The thing that confuses me is that the non pressing of the button and turning the key to release teh valve seemed to do the same thing i.e release EM energy but whilst the former brought a plane down, the latter didnt do much? The latter seemed more like a massive discharge of energy; removing the magnetism from the air, and presumably destroying the magnet within the swan, rather than being a magnetic force itself. The reviewer in that article you posted is jumping to a number of conclusions; the first been that the key destroys the hatch itself. Kelvin may have told Desmond that, but there's no reason to take his word as gospel. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 31, 2006, 06:02:22 PM Quote Damon Lindelof has ruled out the possibility of lost using "traditional sci-fi clichés" in it's storytelling. Lindelof was quoted in TVGUIDE saying "TV in general uses far too many clichés, but Sci-fi shows are by far the worst. I'm sick of seeing people cloning each other. I'm sick of seeing the clones appearing out of nowhere and killing their 'real' selves. And I'm even MORE sick of seeing another clone appear and kill the other evil clone, in one big clone-fuelled hardcore battle to the death. I'm glad to say that on lost, the word 'clone' will never even be uttered. Even by Sawyer... Likewise, there'll be no zombies. That kind of thing sucks nowadays, you know? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 31, 2006, 10:33:18 PM Comic-con podcast: https://ll.media.abc.com/podcast/lost/Lostpodcast_22top_abc.mp3
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on July 31, 2006, 11:55:28 PM Just listened to it... Aside from the cringeworthy audience sounds there's nothing there that wasn't already posted, but I'm pretty sure Damon was being serious when he said "that's assuming time is the same on the island as it is in the outside world" (or words to that effect), which surprised me. They also seemed to pretty strongly hint at an underwater hatch, which explains the purchasing of underwater cage sets.
Other than that it was still a good listen, Jorge Garcia sounds like he basically IS Hurley :D Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Elephant on August 01, 2006, 09:41:14 PM Rachel Blake makes pretty nice appearance in that :D
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 01, 2006, 10:47:58 PM "OMG RACHEL! YOU GO GIRL!". The audience is just so embarrassing.
"OMG Damon, were you surprised you didn't get nominated for an emmy... COS I WASN'T". All Damon needed to do was turn around and say "OMG annoying voiced woman, I just signed a contract worth well over $500,000. Do you really think I could give a flying f***?". I bet he was crying all the way home to his tropical mansion in Oahu. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on August 01, 2006, 10:52:42 PM Is tonights E4 episode the one that finishes with Henry asking "Got any milk?"
LOSTs coolest ever line. FACTUMUNDO! Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 01, 2006, 10:58:21 PM Wrong wrong wrong. Coolest line ever: "Hello".
End of debate. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on August 01, 2006, 11:02:48 PM Thats surely just a word, not a line.
Henry owns the ass of Eko. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 01, 2006, 11:06:09 PM Wrong again. Eko completely OWNED Henry when he chopped off his beard.
"Please. Stop. Talking. Henry." Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on August 01, 2006, 11:09:33 PM He was just acting scared! The beard choppery was overblown. A poor mans version of when Jules from Pulp Fiction takes a long slurp from Bretts last ever cup of Sprite.
Ahhhh, that hit the spot. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Elephant on August 01, 2006, 11:28:00 PM Best line has to be John Locke's "I was wrong".
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 01, 2006, 11:30:28 PM Best line has to be John Locke's "I was wrong". How long before we hear "No John, you were right all along!"? I'll be stunned if it isn't used within the first 3 episodes. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BooBoo on August 01, 2006, 11:33:15 PM I'll go for a scene in series 3 where Locke and Jack argue over a Lost-esque mystery and Locker goes,
"Who was right Jack? Who was right??? I was right! John Locke was right! Now trust me over this!!" Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 02, 2006, 12:35:45 PM Some new spoilers, but they're from a pretty so-so source, so don't read too much into them:
Quote - Fake Henry's real name is Thomas Radzinsky [/color]- Christian Shephard is both Jack and Claire's FATHER - Kate chooses Sawyer - Rose dies this season of Cancer - Sayid manages to rescue Kate & Sawyer but not Jack - There is no Walt/Michael in the mini-series start to the Season - There will be a Danielle flashback this season, currently planned for March 2007 - Locke leg injury was never a physical injury - Libby's last name is Winchester - Libbys husband was killed in the decking accident that Hurley thought he caused - Libby was after Hurleys money as revenge The 'blow us away moment' is (major spoilers IF this is true, so I'll stick it in white): "We have a flashback or so we think to Penny watching the news just after the phone call she recieved from the artic monitoring station. It shows that Flight 815 has just "gone missing" and the previous couple of months have actually taken place in a matter of moments. The time on the island runs a lot quicker than the outside world. It's a real wtf moment." Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Ally on August 02, 2006, 12:43:37 PM WTF indeed!
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 02, 2006, 12:48:03 PM Quote Lost is "second most popular television show in the world" ABC smash hit drama LOST may have been ignored in this years major emmy award nomination categories, but a survey by Radio Times recently has proven the island drama to be the second most popular TV show in the world. The survey was done in 20 countries, and was based on the viewing figure and audience share ratings. "CSI:Miami" held the first spot, but was ran extremely close by ABC dramas LOST and Desperate Housewives. Top-10 1. "CSI:Miami" 2. "Lost" 3. "Desperate Housewives" 4. "Te Voy a Ensenar a Querer" 5. "The Simpsons" 6. "CSI:Crime Scene Investigation" 7. "Crime Scene: Missing" 8. "Inocente de Ti" 9. "Anita, No Te Rajes!" 10. "The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius" Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 02, 2006, 12:48:38 PM WTF indeed! Yep :lol: Like I said, the source isn't exactly the most reliable, but you never know... Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 03, 2006, 05:15:25 PM Lost experience catch-up stuff, for those who haven't followed it:
Quote What is The Hanso Foundation? Their claim: they’re a globe-spanning, philanthropic organization dedicated to the betterment of mankind through social/scientific research and innovative technology. Their slogan is “Reaching Out to a Better Tomorrow.” The truth: The Hanso Foundation will pursue its science at any cost. Their chief executives are corrupt. They have a mysterious agenda that has already destroyed countless lives - through war, medical experimentation, bribery, lies, and murder. And, they’ve been planning something huge. It’s called the SPIDER PROTOCOL. I've been working to expose the truth... and now their crosshairs are set on me. Who is Persephone? Persephone is my hacker alias, the name I used while hacking The Hanso Foundation’s website and phone systems. Once The Hanso Foundation shut down its website, I felt it was time to give the people joining in my mission a real name and face to connect with -– Rachel Blake. And, so, I started this blog. Who is Rachel Blake? That’s me. People wonder, why am I doing this? Do I have some sort of personal stake in this battle against Thomas Werner Mittelwerk, Alvar Hanso, and The Hanso Foundation? The way I see it, EVERYONE has personal motivations driving them. And, in the same way, everyone has a demon or two biting at their heels. Point is… does it really matter what it takes to get you into the fight as long as you show up? I’m doing what I have to do. Personal or not, knowing what I do, seeing the MASSIVE THREAT AND DANGER these guys are to us all, it’s not a choice anymore whether to fight or not. Are Rachel Blake and Persephone really the same person? Yep. Not that I really think my word will stop you arguing about it. Who is Alvar Hanso? He started as an arms dealer back in WWII. Made a fortune selling death and destruction, even contributed to the creation of the atom bomb. At some point his conscience seemed to catch up to him, and he started The Hanso Foundation to wash away his sins. But, as far as the evidence shows, it didn’t take. The Hanso Foundation has strayed far from its mission of bettering humanity and is now a threat to us all. But, where exactly IS Hanso? Nobody seems to know. Is he alive? Dead? Truly missing? I uncovered a letter from a Spanish doctor claiming old Alvar has some sort of rare blood disorder… could it be a result of his own experimentation? All I know is that for far too long Hanso hasn’t answered for the actions he and his cronies have set in motion. When I do find him, he’s gonna have a lot of explaining to do. Who is Dr. Thomas Werner Mittelwerk? Don’t take that “Dr.” title too seriously -– Mittelwerk, while he may be some sort of evil genius, is a fraud through-and-through. He’s no more a doctor than I am a girl on a European vacation. For many years Mittelwerk was Alvar Hanso’s lieutenant and chief technologist. But, since Hanso’s disappearance, the good doc has taken over the role of President and now has The Hanso Foundation under his (apparent) control. Mittelwerk likes to present himself as some sort of forward-thinking, eco-friendly guy (check out his TV ads), but the actions of the Foundation tell another story. I followed him, pieced together his plot, and ended up in Sri Lanka. The things I saw there… well, you’re gonna see them too, as soon as you guys find and put together my video. Who are GidgetGirl/Darla Taft and Hugh McIntyre? For those of you who have been following my work, you’ll know that GidgetGirl a.k.a. Darla Taft helped track down Mittelwerk. Darla was a corporate liaison for the Global Welfare Consortium, and it seems she was, for some time, feeding information to her lover, the married and self-proclaimed “family man” Hugh McIntyre. Hugh was Communications Director of The Hanso Foundation, the mouthpiece for the entire organization. He used Darla’s warnings to spin The Hanso Foundation’s lies and respond before the GWC could shut their programs down. There came a point, though, where the lies and crimes became too much for Hugh and Darla. Darla began helping me under the guise of GidgetGirl, but when she tried to point me toward the SPIDER PROTOCOL and Sri Lanka, Mittelwerk had Hugh and Darla murdered. Who is DJ Dan? He’s a half-crazed, half-brilliant conspiracy theorist radio host who produces his show “Shutting Down the Man” from an ever-changing list of far-fetched locations. He’s been an opponent of The Hanso Foundation for years and has a legion of ConspiraSpies to aid in the struggle. I even called in to his show once… Who is Joop? Joop is a product of The Life-Extension Project. Check out the ad. He’s a 105-year-old orangutan, the oldest in the world, and he’s supposed to somehow help make The Hanso Foundation palatable to families and children. You ask me? He’s a prisoner and a victim -- just one more example of why The Hanso Foundation needs to be stopped. Timeline/Walkthrough of my quest to STOP HANSO: In May/June, I hacked The Hanso Foundation website as Persephone. Once they caught on to the damage I was doing, they shut the site down. At that point, I started this blog. I snagged tons of audio/video for it, but to keep the Hanso squad from hacking me and taking my evidence down, I had to hide my clips on a bunch of corporate websites. It worked -- but finding some of the clips was pretty tough. Cause this stuff’s important, I’m giving you newbies the quick ‘n’ dirty: 1. Copenhagen Post 01 - VIDEO * This one’s actually right here on the site. 2. Copenhagen Post 02 - VIDEO * Five days in. I followed Mittelwerk around, shot a vid. To find it: Go to https://www.broadbandstories.com Click on the window titled “Ultimate Journey” – it’s the one with the motorcycle. I got into the shipping archive and discovered Mittelwerk was researching historic shipping lanes near the equator. A couple of clever folks commented, later on, that the shipping company was owned by Hanso, and that in the 1800s, Alvar Hanso’s grandfather was the captain of a slave ship called The Black Rock. 3. Copenhagen Post 03 With little to go on from Mittelwerk, I posted the dirt I had on Hugh McIntyre, which amounted to photos of him and his mistress from the Global Welfare Consortium. Not long after, GidgetGirl first made contact, trying to guilt me into removing the photos. No dice. 4. Copenhagen Post 04 - AUDIO * I hid a mic in a pepper shaker and recorded a conversation between Mittelwerk and a crony of his. To find it: Go to https://au.docs.yahoo.com/mittelwerk/ username: rblake, password: 105years Click on the phrase “peeping on tom” Oh, didn’t I mention that conversation was in Korean? We got a bunch of translations, some good and some that didn’t make sense in any language. The consensus was that they were talking about a “Mr. Paik” having built a special ship for Mittelwerk… 5. Copenhagen Post 05 – VIDEO * I decided to step it up. To find the video: Go to https://www.sublymonal.com Type “truth safe reckon copenhagen alvar sumo” in the box Type “better tomorrow” in the next box Click the folder labeled “48” Click the file “untitled-1.html” I posted one of the several island maps Mittelwerk was carrying on him. As blurry as it was, my friends were still able to locate it in Lake Superior… We would soon find out that Mittelwerk was scouting these islands as possible sites for something called the SPIDER PROTOCOL. GidgetGirl got in touch again. She and I made a deal: if she gave me good intel, I would take those photos of Hugh McIntyre down. 6. Copenhagen Post 06 - VIDEO * I was “visited” by the man that appeared to be Mittelwerk’s attendant (see vid for Copenhagen Post 05). To find the video: Go to https://www.jeep.com/en/compass/ Click “Interior” Click “In Back” Click the dot labeled “Removable Flashlight” Click “View Demo” That call he received was from Mittelwerk - I saw it on the cell phone. 7. Copenhagen Post 07 GidgetGirl contacted me. Said Mittelwerk went to Iceland to deal with a fire at The Vik Institute, a part of the Hanso Mental Health Appeal. She also sent an article describing the fire. Strangely, a world-renowned mathematician, Vigi Benoffski, was killed in the blaze. 8. Iceland Post 01 - VIDEO * I talked to the director of The Vik Institute, Armand Zander, about the fire. To find the video: Go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMS-S0wms6c The equation Zander said those autistic savants were “running” sounded an awful lot like the Valenzetti Equation. I emailed Zander for more information… 9. Iceland Post 02 Zander sent me an email with the hieroglyphs he talked about. Taken together, the consensus seemed to be that they meant “(to cause) to die.” When I tried to contact Zander for more info, I got an error email and no answer on his phone. 10. Iceland Post 03 - AUDIO * Armand Zander disappeared, and Mittelwerk slipped away once again. The question? Where? Listening to a DJ Dan podcast gave me an idea… To find the DJ Dan PODCAST: Go to https://www.retrieversoftruth.com/users/BroadBandBeatnik/htdocs/audio/MathematicalForecasting.mp3 Yeah, I admitted to being Persephone. Back to that idea… the mathematical forecaster talking to DJ Dan said Enzo Valenzetti “disappeared.” I wondered if Mittelwerk hadn’t gone looking for Valenzetti, at which point GidgetGirl posted that he was in the Italian Riviera, the last place Valenzetti had been seen alive! 11. Italy Post 01 - VIDEO * I followed Mittelwerk to the Riviera. To find the video: Go to https://www.richerdeeperbroader.com/welcome/your/next/video/needs/your/experiences/check/tomorrow/ username: rblake, password: allveggie Hoping to find Valenzetti before Mittelwerk, I asked my friends for help… And I had a slight “falling out” with GidgetGirl. 12. Italy Post 02 – AUDIO * With all the questions surrounding the Valenzetti Equation’s veracity, this conversation I recorded shed some light. To find it: Go to https://au.docs.yahoo.com/rachels-cast/ Username: rblake, password: organharvest Click on 'execs on the beach'… The conversation proved to us that those savants WERE running the Valenzetti Equation, but doubt lingered over whether it was the correct version… Did this explain why Mittelwerk was in the Riviera? 13. Italy Post 03 - AUDIO * Thinking I was following Mittelwerk to Valenzetti, I was surprised when he checked into a local hospital for some treatments. I bribed a nurse to find out what he had done to himself. To find the audio clip: Go to https://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/L/lost/assets/blake.mp3 All those injections and an exchange transfusion… all of it pointed to Mittelwerk going to this mysterious island for the SPIDER PROTOCOL… 14. Italy Post 04 Mittelwerk got away again, this time on the deck of his “special” ship – named The Helgus Antonius. According to the comments, the best guesses re: the name’s meaning were either “The Holy Flower” or “St. Anthony…” the Patron Saint of Lost Things. We all wondered, where could this ship be GOING?? 15. Italy Post 05 Tried to bribe the harbormaster to give me some info on the Helgus Antonius, but according to him, it never arrived and it never left. 16. Italy Post 06 - AUDIO * Got a phone call from GidgetGirl. To find the audio clip: Go to https://stophanso.rachelblake.com/audio/audio.html I had to go meet GidgetGirl in Paris, even if it might be a trap. 17. Paris Post 01 – VIDEO * To find the video: Go to https://www.sublymonal.com Type “listen” in the box Click on the “Talib” window As the song is playing, click on Talib’s flashing eyeball Type “rblake” in the top box, “milkcartonman” in the bottom box 18. Tuesday, July 18, 2006 * To find the video: Go to https://www.jeep.com/en/compass/ Click on “Safety/Security” Click on “Crush Zones” (on the grill) Click on “View Demo” 19. Thursday, July 20, 2006 * To find the video: Go to https://monster.typepad.com/monsterblog/2006/07/what_was_your_w.html Click on the link https://adminsupport.monster.com/articles/bad-boss-mirror/ At the bottom of the page, click on the link 'click here' Click on the video entitled “Can She Trust Him?” By the way, all that “He wants me to help you” business? Ignore it. I have no idea what that guy was talking about. 20. Friday, July 21, 2006 * To find the video: Go to www.richerdeeperbroader.com Click on “Fuel Passions” under the “Quick Links” menu Click the window of the building directly below the words “broadbandstories.com” (right under the “.”) Username: rblake, password: hoo-gonchoi Click “clip” in the window that opens That package of items led me to Sri Lanka… And, now, you are ready to FIND and ASSEMBLE the video I shot in Sri Lanka. Good luck. Share with your friends. Keep fighting. - Rachel MORE DETAIL on The Hanso Foundation: The Hanso Foundation is currently working on 6 major projects, each with its own dark underbelly: The Mathematical Forecasting Initiative Their claim: Have you seen their AD? They’d have you believe that “By understanding and modeling the mathematic probability of seismic human events, The Hanso Foundation can illuminate the path ahead and provide a true road map to the betterment of humanity.” The truth: Their population growth models have been used to foster tribal wars in Africa. They have an enclave of mathematicians working in secret on a doomsday formula called the Valenzetti Equation. Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program Their claim: “The Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program… [is] a far-reaching educational initiative designed to teach the basics of sanitation, nutrition and disease prevention to the world.” The truth: Hanso-funded hospitals in the developing world have been participating in unauthorized experimentation and live organ-harvesting programs. Patient rights have been violated, families destroyed, and the press accounts have been suppressed. Mental Health Appeal Their claim: The Foundation’s cutting-edge research and facilities are aimed at fully eradicating mental illness by the end of this century. Their flagship mental health facility, The Vik Institute (in Vik, Iceland), offers gene therapies, radical pharmaceutical treatments and the latest in both surgery and psychotherapy. The truth: The Vik Institute’s own director, Armand Zander, is now missing, presumably murdered, after speaking to me regarding a team of mathematicians working in secret within The Vik Institute. His assertion? That Dr. Thomas Werner Mittelwerk, President of The Hanso Foundation, has used institutionalized autistic savants as human computers to run the mysterious Valenzetti Equation. But to what end? Electromagnetic Research Initiative Their claim: “Through a myriad of experiments worldwide, the Electromagnetic Research Initiative brings us a step closer to understanding this crucial force -– and in doing so, our place in the Universe.” The truth: The Hanso Foundation has erected an electromagnetic antenna off the coast of East Asia for some unknown purpose. It has disrupted telecommunications, knocked out satellites and deformed ocean life, but Hanso Foundation bribes to high-placed foreign officials have kept the project up and running. The Institute for Genomic Advancement Their claim: “In what may be the most forward-reaching of The Hanso Foundation’s active projects, the Institute seeks nothing less than the eradication of disease and birth defects through a deeper understanding of the function and mechanisms of the human genome.” The truth: The Hanso Foundation is tampering with the genetic structures of an unknown number of animal and microbial species. Photo evidence of a beached shark with a Hanso-specific tag, as well as a bacterial outbreak in Tanzania, indicates they have already released some of these genetically modified species into the wild. The Life-Extension Project Their claim: “The grand summation of all of the Foundation’s work – from prevention and wellness, to the development of new gene therapies and the development of young minds -– is nothing less than the extension of life itself.” The truth: Their life-extension programs have spawned deadly disease outbreaks in Africa, the news of which has been suppressed with bribes and internal takeovers within the Global Welfare Consortium, the world’s leading medical watchdog organization. The DHARMA Initiative There is also a seventh project… called the DHARMA Initiative. Little is known about this program, but everything I’ve discovered has led me to the conclusion that the scientists of the DHARMA Initiative disappeared over 30 years ago. What happened to them??? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 03, 2006, 11:56:37 PM Quote Meaning of 'Lost' numbers to be revealed Wednesday, August 2 2006, 22:24 BST - by Neil Wilkes The meaning behind the omni-present six numbers on Lost is to be finally revealed. The relevance of the set 4, 8, 16, 16, 23, 42 will be divulged to players of 'The Lost Experience', an interactive challenge running in the UK, US and Australia. “The reward we’ve always promised from the Lost Experience is information, which is currency to anyone who is a fan of the show or a participant in this game,” said Mike Benson, svp of marketing ABC Entertainment. “This additional form of storytelling allows us to engage current and new fans in a genuinely innovative way while delivering the same extraordinary content that ‘Lost’ provides as a television series.” The Lost Experience - currently in its third of five "phases" - has previously unveiled information regarding the Black Rock and the significance of the title "Dharma Initiative". Future secrets will concern the mysterious Alvar Hanso and the Hanso Foundation. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 03, 2006, 11:59:12 PM I hope they explain this stuff on the show too. It's one thing to pad out the mythology on the internet, but they have to remember that the TV viewers are the majority audience, and need the storyline filled out too.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 12:02:05 AM what is the Lost Experience? I have no idea what it is and what any of that long thing you've just posted Andy means.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: alpal78 on August 04, 2006, 12:08:44 AM what is the Lost Experience? I have no idea what it is and what any of that long thing you've just posted Andy means. I second that, all I know is that this Rachel girl is some maniac who has something against the show. I have no idea though how it relates to the Lost experience Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 12:09:48 AM what is the Lost Experience? I have no idea what it is and what any of that long thing you've just posted Andy means. I second that, all I know is that this Rachel girl is some maniac who has something against the show. I have no idea though how it relates to the Lost experience If we are patient my friend, Andy shall return to answer ;) Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BlufPurdi on August 04, 2006, 12:10:31 AM Rachel, I gather, is just some nutter trying to make a name for herself by making cringeworthy videos about Lost being real, is she not?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 12:13:51 AM it has to relate to the show officially somehow though because of the whole numbers explanation thing. Andy please come and tell us what it is, who she is and make more sense of that long thing you pasted.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on August 04, 2006, 12:21:33 AM too late to start the 'experiance'?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: BlufPurdi on August 04, 2006, 12:22:27 AM I guessed she was nobody, but that some of the sites are basically just a collection of all the facts picked up from the show. I try not to read them though, they just throw me off track.
I'm more than confident she's not related to the sites, is she? Or she supposed to be Persephone!? FUCKSAKE! You've got me all confused now. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: 80 on August 04, 2006, 07:18:32 AM I'm more than confident she's not related to the sites, is she? Or she supposed to be Persephone!? FUCKSAKE! You've got me all confused now. Not that I'm following it, but I'm under the impression that woman is this Rachael/Persiphone person... Same one who was shouting at some expo, yes? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Elephant on August 04, 2006, 10:22:37 AM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Blake
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 10:45:13 AM thought so, fictional character
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 10:47:27 AM ANNNNNNNNDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYY can you help please :lol:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 12:27:11 PM I haven't really followed the experience, but yeah Rachel Blake is a fictional character who leads the gamer (probably the wrong word there) through the experience, providing clues etc. The experience itself is written by Carlton Cuse, and is basically intended to fill-in the gaps in the story that the show could probably never realistically get to. The basic premise of it is that they give you a website URL (provided on TV ads, other websites etc) and you have to navigate your way into and through the site to gather information.
It's probably too late to join in now, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Experience has all the info you need. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 12:33:35 PM Do you know if it's revealed anything worthwhile about the show yet?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 12:36:54 PM Just stuff about the hanso foundation really; most of which is in that post on the previous page, or in the post on the first page of the thread.
They won't use it to reveal anything earth-shattering, just gap-filling stuff. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 12:39:40 PM Meaning of the Numbers in Lost
June 09, 2006 The Valenzetti Equation is a fictional book by Gary Troup is a book that speaks of a mathematical equation that can predict the apocalypse, and the end of the world. One theory that I came across about the numbers that continue to show up in Lost is that they are the result of the Valenzetti Equation equalling 4 8 15 16 23 42. The theory looks at the numbers in a different way then just a string of numbers adding up to 108 like some other theories people are using to try and figure out their meaning. This one uses the set of numbers as a date and time which if Valenzetti's equation is correct would be the end of the world. The date would be April 8, 2015 at 16:23:42, or 4/8/2015 at 4:23 and 42 seconds. This thoery can be backed up with a little bit of information from the show such as when the blast doors came down on Locke's leg he saw a map, which included a phrase "low relevence to Valenzetti related research activity”. Also, the man the Hurley got the numbers from in the insitution. Some how that man knew the numbers, and possibly knew what they meant which is why he went insane. Knowing how the world was going to end could lead a man to insanity. The numbers are obviously a sign of bad luck, as seen with all that has been happening to people around Hurley after he used them in the lottery and won. There is certainly evil about the numbers, and what could be much worse than the world coming to an end? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 12:44:16 PM Found this on a forum, pretty interesting read:
Quote I don't know for 100% is this is a major spoiler or not. But it looks pretty convincing to me. There is a book (theory) called "Genetic Mirror Theory and other Natuarlly Occuring Phenomenon," by Marsille Roussau. Someone posted online this: I recently found an interesting natuarlly occuring thoery found in our world that states everyone has a mirror image somewhere in the world. You may have heard of this. Its called Roussau's genetic mirror theory, and I must say it is very interesting. Roussau's genetic mirror theory says that everyone in the world has an exact twin somewhere, however according to the theory you never encounter this person, by laws of probablitly and other natuaral occuring phemnomen. Its the theory that was devised by a French Mathematician named Marseille Roussau in the year 1988. He used a series of numbers to explain his theory. Now I know you're not going to believe this but here goes. 4 8 15 16 23 42 Let me explain... The 4 stands for 4 degrees of separation (not 6 or 7 as commonly stated.) Roussau believed that everyone in the world was connected by four different people. So in theory could meet yourself by using four different people connected to you. Example: Your brother's, boss's, neighbor nephew, knows your mirror. Hard to believe, I know but keep reading. The 8 stands for the eight continent, or the only place in the world where you could meet your mirror. He calculated it to be somewhere in the south pacific. Now we know its not actually as large as the other contintents but its used figurtively because everyone in all 7 continents could meet there mirror on the 8th universal continent. The 15 stands for the chances of you acually meeting yourself on this place, as in 15 out of 4,815,162,342. Look at the second set "815." Ring any bells? Interesting huh? The 16 stands for the maximum amount of people that could encounter thier twin all at the same time. Think about the number of main characters. The 23 is the number of years apart your twin and yourself are. You are not the same age as your twin. By chance and probablity it takes 23 years exactly for the same genes that made you to be connected again to form another you. The 42 stands for the maximimum number of years your twin and yourself can be alive at the same time. However people do die at diffferent times so thats why everyone isn't dead at 75. For example my twin was born on Sept. 6 2003 b/c i was born on Spet. 6 1980. Now that doesn't mean i will die in the year 2045, I could, but its not set in stone. My twin could die when he is 16, and then the whole thing starts over again. This is all very complicated and I don't know how well I explained it but the connections with the show are too coinidental to not be real. Roussau and his team (wife, included) went to the 8th continent. You can figure out how they died and why by the numbers and equations. It also fits with every character. You can predict when they will die. There are others on the island who are twins of the survivors, but have been there 23 years longer. There is a book Roussau wrote 16 years ago in 1988 when he came up with the theory. Thats where I got it from. Now, try this & you'll see more of this theory play out: oceanicflight815.com click barcode. type in "theislandiswaiting" Sheet of script ends with Jack being tackled to the ground by... someone who looks EXACLTY like him. The theory explains that. There is a guy on the boat who looked a lot like Sawyer - maybe his "twin"? The French woman's name is the same as the guy with the GMT theory. Jack met Desmond at the stadium, and then on the island. Perhaps he met both of Desmond somehow? Locke was spotted in the hospital. And if you then read about John Desmond Bernal: In 1929, Dr. John Desmond Bernal conceived of the Bernal sphere. A NASA Summer Study in 1975 investigated three primary designs, dubbed Island One, Island Two, and Island Three. All three are based on the premise of a self-sustaining, artificial ecology within the station, called an arcology. Island One was the Bernal sphere, an enclosed design (good for protecting against radiation), excepting the poles, which would be left open to allow mirrors to redirect sunlight from the outside to the interior of the colony. Island Two was the Stanford torus, a mile-wide torus spinning to produce artificial gravity on the inner side of the ring. The center of the torus could then serve as a convenient docking station for spacecraft approaching via the poles. Island Three was the O'Neill cylinder, a spinning tube designed to hold 10,000 people. This design is probably the most popular space colony portrayed in sci-fi. More about Desmond in this thread: https://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=14177 And the map that Said found at Roussau's camp said something about 3 islands. If this french guy Marseille Roussau wrote this in year 1988. Its 16 years from 2004, right? Well we can just say both Roussau and Desmond have a big meaning to everything on the island if this is true. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 12:54:33 PM I have no idea what the island is all about but at least we know it is not purgatory anymore because of the outside influence at the end of the second series.
I like this idea that time runs faster on the island than in real life. After all if Desmond had been on the island for years, why would his wife still be looking for him? Surely she would have given up hope. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 12:57:34 PM does anyone have any idea about this 'incident' the DHARMA bloke is on about?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 12:59:23 PM I believe this theory here: https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,21426.msg479534.html#msg479534
The last few paragraphs cover the incident etc. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 01:16:56 PM what happened to Kelvin's body?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 01:17:46 PM Good question. We've been back to his place of death a few times and it hasn't been there.
Maybe he wasn't actually dead? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 01:23:21 PM Good question. We've been back to his place of death a few times and it hasn't been there. Maybe he wasn't actually dead? Possibly. Maybe he became an other like Radzinski is supposed to have done. They're different actors but Kelvin and Tom actually look quite alike (it was pointed out to me on another forum) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bf/Kelvin%28lost%29.jpg/200px-Kelvin%28lost%29.jpg) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Mrfreindly.jpg/150px-Mrfreindly.jpg) Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 01:35:06 PM Quote Kelvin Inman name speculation Damon Lindelof, LOST co-creator, has been quoted saying, "Every single name on the show has purpose and meaning." This bit of info could let a theorist go to town with any of the characters, but my focus today is Kelvin Joe Inman. This came to me when watching the morning news where they discussed an alleged murderer with the last name of Inman. It was the way they said his name. The producers stomped on speculation that the two characters played by Clancy Brown, Sayid's personal Gulf War torture tutor Joe Inman and Desmond's hatch partner Kelvin, were different people, possibly twins. They confirmed that they were the same man, Kelvin Joseph Inman, and that they did not want to spoil the reveal by using the name Kelvin when his character first appeared. His first name, Kelvin, may be a reference to Lord Kelvin, a Scottish mathematician and physicist. What I find most interesting about him, though it may not have anything to do with LOST, is his concept of the Heat Death of the Universe, concerning his interpretation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. More important to our story, however, would be his invention of the adjustable compass, as he was an enthusiastic yachtsman. More interestingly, however, is his last name. I believe that is the key. He is an "in man," in on whatever is really going on in the Swan hatch. He admitted he'd been a CIA spook for ten years. He taught Sayid the fine art of torture. The yellow hazard suit he wore every time he went outside the hatch was an obvious ruse, as it had a rip in it that he let Desmond see. I believe he wanted Desmond to follow him. Why? I'm not sure about that. I'm sure he didn't intend to die. He may have known he'd baited Desmond enough that he was certain he'd follow, but he couldn't have known how angry Desmond would get to bash his head against that rock. I've seen people suggest that we didn't really see his blood on the rocks, but that he had fake blood capsules... But how? That requires a little too much foresight. Could Kelvin Inman still be alive, even if the blood was really his? Could he have survived such a traumatic head wound? Some people speculate he may still be alive, that the Others saved him. We never did see his body after Desmond left him for dead. This could be further support for him being an "in man." But this just leads to more questions. Why did he need to con Desmond? Could he have been "in" on it but still left in the dark about what would actually happen if the button wasn't pushed? If the fail-safe key was turned? Was his late partner Radzinski "in" on it, too? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 01:42:45 PM A few good points there. Kelvin clearly knew more than he was letting on, hence being able to continue the blastdoor map after Radzinski died/left. I'm starting to like the theory that he could be alive.
Like I said before, Ana-Lucia, Eko etc were at the exact scene of his death in "Abandoned" and there was no body there. The only other explanation is that Des went back to bury him, but that's pretty unlikely given the countdown thing. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 01:49:18 PM A few good points there. Kelvin clearly knew more than he was letting on, hence being able to continue the blastdoor map after Radzinski died/left. I'm starting to like the theory that he could be alive. Like I said before, Ana-Lucia, Eko etc were at the exact scene of his death in "Abandoned" and there was no body there. The only other explanation is that Des went back to bury him, but that's pretty unlikely given the countdown thing. Yeah after such a close encounter with the button, he probably never left the hatch again until Jack and co arrived Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on August 04, 2006, 06:16:42 PM Good question. We've been back to his place of death a few times and it hasn't been there. Maybe he wasn't actually dead? Possibly. Maybe he became an other like Radzinski is supposed to have done. They're different actors but Kelvin and Tom actually look quite alike (it was pointed out to me on another forum) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bf/Kelvin%28lost%29.jpg/200px-Kelvin%28lost%29.jpg) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Mrfreindly.jpg/150px-Mrfreindly.jpg) hence for the need for the beard, encase desmond showed up? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Geordiesned on August 04, 2006, 06:27:03 PM Meaning of the Numbers in Lost June 09, 2006 The Valenzetti Equation is a fictional book by Gary Troup is a book that speaks of a mathematical equation that can predict the apocalypse, and the end of the world. One theory that I came across about the numbers that continue to show up in Lost is that they are the result of the Valenzetti Equation equalling 4 8 15 16 23 42. The theory looks at the numbers in a different way then just a string of numbers adding up to 108 like some other theories people are using to try and figure out their meaning. This one uses the set of numbers as a date and time which if Valenzetti's equation is correct would be the end of the world. The date would be April 8, 2015 at 16:23:42, or 4/8/2015 at 4:23 and 42 seconds. This thoery can be backed up with a little bit of information from the show such as when the blast doors came down on Locke's leg he saw a map, which included a phrase "low relevence to Valenzetti related research activity”. Also, the man the Hurley got the numbers from in the insitution. Some how that man knew the numbers, and possibly knew what they meant which is why he went insane. Knowing how the world was going to end could lead a man to insanity. The numbers are obviously a sign of bad luck, as seen with all that has been happening to people around Hurley after he used them in the lottery and won. There is certainly evil about the numbers, and what could be much worse than the world coming to an end? Don't know if you know this already or not Johnny but "Gary Troup" is an anagram of "Purgatory". The real author of the book and several others relating to Lost, including Bad Twin that I'm reading at the moment, is ghostwriter Laurence Shames. https://www.twbooks.co.uk/authors/lshames.html Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 07:29:48 PM hence for the need for the beard, encase desmond showed up? Possibly. He had to take into consideration the fact that Demsond would eventually leave the hatch and if they come into contact, he wouldn't want Desmond to realise Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 07:33:48 PM Sorry to shoot you down, but Kelvin ain't Mr Friendly. ;)
Mr Friendly was on the boat taking walt two weeks after Kelvin "died" ,so he'd have to have changed a hell of a lot in such a short time period for it to be him. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 07:51:26 PM Meaning of the Numbers in Lost June 09, 2006 The Valenzetti Equation is a fictional book by Gary Troup is a book that speaks of a mathematical equation that can predict the apocalypse, and the end of the world. One theory that I came across about the numbers that continue to show up in Lost is that they are the result of the Valenzetti Equation equalling 4 8 15 16 23 42. The theory looks at the numbers in a different way then just a string of numbers adding up to 108 like some other theories people are using to try and figure out their meaning. This one uses the set of numbers as a date and time which if Valenzetti's equation is correct would be the end of the world. The date would be April 8, 2015 at 16:23:42, or 4/8/2015 at 4:23 and 42 seconds. This thoery can be backed up with a little bit of information from the show such as when the blast doors came down on Locke's leg he saw a map, which included a phrase "low relevence to Valenzetti related research activity”. Also, the man the Hurley got the numbers from in the insitution. Some how that man knew the numbers, and possibly knew what they meant which is why he went insane. Knowing how the world was going to end could lead a man to insanity. The numbers are obviously a sign of bad luck, as seen with all that has been happening to people around Hurley after he used them in the lottery and won. There is certainly evil about the numbers, and what could be much worse than the world coming to an end? Don't know if you know this already or not Johnny but "Gary Troup" is an anagram of "Purgatory". The real author of the book and several others relating to Lost, including Bad Twin that I'm reading at the moment, is ghostwriter Laurence Shames. Bad twin's story is by Lindelof as well, so the information in there is very much "canon". Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 08:27:45 PM Here's a wild theory which I've concocted. Vincent is the monster.
I don't have much argument for this, apart from (a) Damon Lindelof has said that we've seen the monster without knowing it, and (b) he's done some pretty damn suspicious things over the past two seasons. Firstly, we now have pretty good reason to believe (based on linedlof's comments) that the monster has some kind of shape-shifting capacities. There's been many occasions when Vincent has ran off, only for something weird to happen. Prime example, Episode 1: Man of Science, Man of Faith. Shannon and Sayid find Vincent in the jungle and Shannon chases him. Vincent dissapears and suddenly THERE'S WALT! Another incarnation of the monster. Walt dissapears when Sayid turns up, and is if by magic, Vincent returns. Example 2 - Episode six: Abandoned. Same situation, Vincent does a runner when Shannon and Sayid are looking for Walt, we see a low down camera angle (Vincent's height) looking out from beneath the rocks, then BOOM, there's walt again! Magic! Then, in the episode "Three Minutes" Vincent brings Charlie the virgin mary statues. It's been theorised many times before that the monster is designed to make you "look into your past" (as with Eko's imagery), and that's what happened to Charlie here. The dog gave him the heroin, and he conquered his demons. In season one, we saw many shots of Vincent sitting watching the survivors. Bad things tended to follow (such as... The appearence of the monster!). What if these shots were put in deliberately so that in 3 years time we'll look back and say "f*** me, they actually knew what they were doing all along"? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 08:38:14 PM It seems pretty reasonable mate but I think the Walt appearances have another meaning. Ms. Klugh asks Michael if he's seen Walt in any places he shouldn't be which relates to these mystery appearances.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 08:43:08 PM Possibly, but I think walt being able to "project" himself would be too obvious.
If they allude to something in an obvious manner in dialogue (as with Ms Klugh), I think that's pretty good basis to rule it out from being the answer. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 09:31:52 PM Quote Official ABC Press release - 08/04/2006 - 18:31 PRODUCTION BEGINS IN HAWAII ON THIRD SEASON EPISODES OF THE AWARD WINNING, ACTION-PACKED MYSTERY AND ADVENTURE SERIES, "LOST" Series Season Premiere is October 4 "Lost" - awarded the 2005 Emmy and 2006 Golden Globe for best drama series - has begun production in Hawaii on third season episodes of action-packed mystery and adventure -- that will continue to bring out the very best and the very worst in the people who are lost. The series will have its season premiere WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network. After Oceanic Air flight 815 tore apart in mid-air and crashed on a Pacific island, its survivors were forced to find inner strength they never knew they had in order to survive. But they discovered that the island holds many secrets, including a mysterious smoke monster, polar bears, a strange French woman and another group of island residents known as "The Others." The survivors have also found signs of those who came to the island before them, including a 19th century sailing ship called The Black Rock, the remains of an ancient statue and bunkers belonging to the Dharma Initiative, a group of scientific researchers. Jack, Kate and Sawyer open the season in captivity as prisoners of "The Others." Just who these "Others" are and what they want are primary questions Season Three will explore. Michael Emerson joins the regular cast in his ongoing role as Henry Gale, leader of "The Others." Romance looms on the horizon as Jack's interests veer towards a mysterious new woman, whose motives may be questionable. Sun and Jin will continue to celebrate their pregnancy - but is the child really Jin's? Locke and Sayid will band together with some of the other survivors and journey across the island in an attempt to free Jack, Kate and Sawyer. Charlie will attempt to return into the good graces of Claire and her baby, Aaron, but can he be trusted to stay clean and sober? The fates of Locke, Desmond and Mr. Eko in the aftermath of the implosion of the hatch are answered. Will Penny Widmore find the island and her long, lost love, Desmond, and can the survivors find a way to interact with the outside world? The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers must continue to work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. But as they have discovered during their 60-plus days on the island, danger and mystery loom behind every corner, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets. "Lost" stars Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Mr. Eko, Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet, Dominic Monaghan as Charlie and Terry O'Quinn as Locke, Rodrigo Santoro as ?. "Lost" was created by Jeffrey Lieber and J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof. Abrams, Lindelof, Bryan Burk, Jack Bender, Jeff Pinkner and Carlton Cuse serve as executive producers. "Lost," which is filmed entirely on location in Hawaii and premiered on September 22, 2004, is from Touchstone Television. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 09:44:25 PM Quote Official ABC Press release - 08/04/2006 - 18:31 PRODUCTION BEGINS IN HAWAII ON THIRD SEASON EPISODES OF THE AWARD WINNING, ACTION-PACKED MYSTERY AND ADVENTURE SERIES, "LOST" Series Season Premiere is October 4 "Lost" - awarded the 2005 Emmy and 2006 Golden Globe for best drama series - has begun production in Hawaii on third season episodes of action-packed mystery and adventure -- that will continue to bring out the very best and the very worst in the people who are lost. The series will have its season premiere WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network. After Oceanic Air flight 815 tore apart in mid-air and crashed on a Pacific island, its survivors were forced to find inner strength they never knew they had in order to survive. But they discovered that the island holds many secrets, including a mysterious smoke monster, polar bears, a strange French woman and another group of island residents known as "The Others." The survivors have also found signs of those who came to the island before them, including a 19th century sailing ship called The Black Rock, the remains of an ancient statue and bunkers belonging to the Dharma Initiative, a group of scientific researchers. Jack, Kate and Sawyer open the season in captivity as prisoners of "The Others." Just who these "Others" are and what they want are primary questions Season Three will explore. Michael Emerson joins the regular cast in his ongoing role as Henry Gale, leader of "The Others." Romance looms on the horizon as Jack's interests veer towards a mysterious new woman, whose motives may be questionable. Sun and Jin will continue to celebrate their pregnancy - but is the child really Jin's? Locke and Sayid will band together with some of the other survivors and journey across the island in an attempt to free Jack, Kate and Sawyer. Charlie will attempt to return into the good graces of Claire and her baby, Aaron, but can he be trusted to stay clean and sober? The fates of Locke, Desmond and Mr. Eko in the aftermath of the implosion of the hatch are answered. Will Penny Widmore find the island and her long, lost love, Desmond, and can the survivors find a way to interact with the outside world? The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers must continue to work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. But as they have discovered during their 60-plus days on the island, danger and mystery loom behind every corner, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets. "Lost" stars Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Mr. Eko, Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet, Dominic Monaghan as Charlie and Terry O'Quinn as Locke, Rodrigo Santoro as ?. "Lost" was created by Jeffrey Lieber and J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof. Abrams, Lindelof, Bryan Burk, Jack Bender, Jeff Pinkner and Carlton Cuse serve as executive producers. "Lost," which is filmed entirely on location in Hawaii and premiered on September 22, 2004, is from Touchstone Television. hmmm I wonder if Locke survives :lol: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: James on August 04, 2006, 09:44:39 PM only 61 days to go.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 04, 2006, 09:45:32 PM crap I'm going to miss the episode that is shown on the 25th.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 04, 2006, 10:10:25 PM There's a lot of very cool things in that press release by the way.
- Henry Gale confirmed as "leader" of the others. - Jack being swayed by Juliet (?) into becoming one of the others, perhaps? - Locke to stop moping about the island betraying him and finally team up with Sayid to kick some "other" ass :cool: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 09, 2006, 12:01:06 AM Just watching "lockdown" again on E4... Interesting in hindsight, knowing now that the hatch is being monitored etc, that the lights in the hatch seemed to be being used in communication with Henry Gale. Everytime he went to do something or needed to respond to a question, the lights were flickering like morse code or something. Probably doesn't really mean much in the grand scheme of things, but meh.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on August 09, 2006, 12:45:48 AM well your official codebreaker andy, what was the light saying?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 09, 2006, 12:55:49 PM second episode title revealed
Episode S3E02 - Further Instructions Episode Centric: Claire Air Date: 11th October 2006 Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 09, 2006, 12:59:23 PM I'm not convinced about it being Claire's just yet, secretagentman said that "?" was hers and was wrong.
Interesting title though. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 09, 2006, 06:31:16 PM Christ is there anything they wont speculate about - https://www.lostreview.com/2006/6/jack-one-artic-researchers.cfm :lol:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 09, 2006, 06:50:56 PM well your official codebreaker andy, what was the light saying? I dunno. Educated guess says it couldn't be normal morse code, otherwise people would have translated it by now. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on August 09, 2006, 07:09:23 PM or maybe your eagle eyes are the first to spot it blueyes.gif
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 09, 2006, 07:18:45 PM :cool:
A good example of it by the way, is about 16:50 into the episode. Henry actually blatantly looks towards the light in the armory as it flickers, then turns back and continues conversation with locke. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 09, 2006, 08:03:18 PM God my head hurts. I've spent the last 30 mints on LOSTpedia reading everything possible and all the theories and important bits on the others, desmond, radzinski and everything just so that from now on I know I haven't missed anything.
[/Andy] Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 09, 2006, 08:13:47 PM What do you mean "[/andy]"? ;) I'll have you know that I don't NEED to read lostpedia to fill me in, I just absorb it all when I watch it :cool:
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 09, 2006, 09:12:04 PM Quote No comment. Damon did say the title was "A Tale of Two Cities," and that hasn't changed. But fans need to approach any spoilers with skeptical minds. Until the episode actually airs, no one will know whose flashbacks it will be. I know of the spoilers you referenced, and all I can say is be skeptical of them. Gregg Nations, RE: The rumoured season 3 flashbacks. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 09, 2006, 09:26:02 PM I want to see if this underwater DHARMA station exists or not "The Flame". Apparently Dr. Marvin Candle/Mark Wickmund could be there blueeek.gif
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 09, 2006, 09:32:43 PM They've bought underwater cages for season 3, and Damon and Carlton didn't exactly dismiss the idea at comic-con, so I'd say there's a fair chance of there being an underwater hatch.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: alpal78 on August 10, 2006, 05:03:46 PM Just realized that Amazon is selling the whole of season 2. The description says the DVDs include unaired flashback, secret of the hatch, deleted scenes....wonder if its worth a buy. What do you guys think? will they be substantially different from what has been shown so far?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FIMG68/ref=reg_hu-wl_gen-recs/002-8678734-7234415?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130 Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 10, 2006, 05:15:17 PM The boxset for season one was fantastic content wise, so yeah it'll be worth buying.
If the two commentaries by Lindelof and Cuse are even half as entertaining as their podcasts, it'll be worth paying the money for them alone. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Kenton Magpie on August 12, 2006, 09:18:03 PM Just finished watching season 2 and i'm a little bit :confused:, does Desmonds wife/girlfriend hire those blokes to locate him or his boat?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 12, 2006, 09:20:00 PM She knew he was on the island ("if you have enough money and determination, you can find anybody"), she knew the island had magnetic properties, so she hired the snowstation guys to search for electromagnetic anomalies in order to find the island/him.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 14, 2006, 10:07:06 PM So... More from the lost experience. This is a video which has been fragmented over the internet in 70 different pieces. 36 of them have so far been found and put together:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR9i6G1heZA Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on August 14, 2006, 10:58:56 PM :cool: A good example of it by the way, is about 16:50 into the episode. Henry actually blatantly looks towards the light in the armory as it flickers, then turns back and continues conversation with locke. i've just thought that if true this could mean (and probably does mean) that the others are controlling the food drops and scheduled lockdowns. it also adds weight to the henry- redzinski theory. 8) Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Bellars on August 15, 2006, 09:06:46 PM What do you guys think of these connections? Rewatching season 1 (again) amid rumours of these connections i picked up on some noteable words in flashbacks.
Christian Shepard being Claire's father. - In "raised by another," (1x10) during claire's fight with her boyfriend her boyfriend mutters something about "father abandonment" issues. -Christian Shepard was in Australia (season 2) trying to visit his Australian daughter. However, he was unsuccessful. Locke's father being the "real" Sawyer. In "Dues ex Machina" (1x19), after Locke comes out of surgery he once again sees his mother. She tells him that "it had to be your (Locke's) idea." This mirrors the phrase that Sawyer says in his flashback from "confidence man" (1x8) where he tells his associate that the con must be "the pretty woman's idea." Thoughts? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 15, 2006, 09:11:37 PM Both are nailed on certainties in my eyes.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: captainhaircut on August 15, 2006, 09:14:53 PM The Locke-Sawyer one was confirmed somewhere I think. Or at least before that episode there was a quote that said something along the lines that we would find out a connection between Sawyer and Locke. So I assumed that although it was never confirmed it was alluded to enough for my to consider it fact. The Claire-Jack one is also a case of putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with a very solid 4.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 15, 2006, 09:28:48 PM I'm going to go out on a whim and predict that Helen is involved in the Locke-conning too. I'm pretty sure that the hints have all been there, but I can't be bothered to place them all together at the moment.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on August 15, 2006, 09:44:29 PM What do you guys think of these connections? Rewatching season 1 (again) amid rumours of these connections i picked up on some noteable words in flashbacks. Christian Shepard being Claire's father. - In "raised by another," (1x10) during claire's fight with her boyfriend her boyfriend mutters something about "father abandonment" issues. -Christian Shepard was in Australia (season 2) trying to visit his Australian daughter. However, he was unsuccessful. Locke's father being the "real" Sawyer. In "Dues ex Machina" (1x19), after Locke comes out of surgery he once again sees his mother. She tells him that "it had to be your (Locke's) idea." This mirrors the phrase that Sawyer says in his flashback from "confidence man" (1x8) where he tells his associate that the con must be "the pretty woman's idea." Thoughts? Remember where you heard it first? https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,21426.msg368109.html#msg368109 Some more of my Mystic Meg moments: https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,21426.msg295794.html#msg295794 https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,21426.msg308213.html#msg308213 Who's the Daddy? ;) Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Elephant on August 15, 2006, 09:48:59 PM I'm going to go out on a whim and predict that Helen is involved in the Locke-conning too. I doubt that, but she will play some part in this all, I believe it. Remember in first flashbacks of Locke, he was lonely and talking to some call-girl all days. Helen is somehow related to why he got into some kind of accident. But how? And how it is involved in this in bigger scale? If I would watch every episode again, every flashback, simply everything, I might come up with some theory, but I doubt I have patience for that. But my guess it has somehow something to do with Jack or Jack's father, with both being doctors. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on August 15, 2006, 10:08:06 PM Didn't Jack have to choose between two people who'd been in a car crash, because he could only save one, and he chose the bird he married? Did we find out who the other one was? Bet it was someone connected with the show, probably Helen and that's how Locke ended up in the chair.
Or am I imagining it? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on August 15, 2006, 10:09:26 PM Didn't Jack have to choose between two people who'd been in a car crash, because he could only save one, and he chose the bird he married? Did we find out who the other one was? Bet it was someone connected with the show, probably Helen and that's how Locke ended up in the chair. Or am I imagining it? i think we already know who it was. kate's relation or something similar. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: CaliMag on August 15, 2006, 10:11:28 PM Didn't Jack have to choose between two people who'd been in a car crash, because he could only save one, and he chose the bird he married? Did we find out who the other one was? Bet it was someone connected with the show, probably Helen and that's how Locke ended up in the chair. Go back and watch the episode with Shannong dying - it was her dad. Jack let Shannon's dad die - then Shannon's evil bitch step-mother took away all of her money and set her on the road to whoredom. Or am I imagining it? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: indi on August 15, 2006, 10:11:58 PM Didn't Jack have to choose between two people who'd been in a car crash, because he could only save one, and he chose the bird he married? Did we find out who the other one was? Bet it was someone connected with the show, probably Helen and that's how Locke ended up in the chair. Or am I imagining it? i think we already know who it was. kate's relation or something similar. Jog my memory for me please, Nit lad. :thup: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on August 15, 2006, 10:15:00 PM sorry. shannons dad as cali said. i knew it was a female cast members fartha lyke, but shannon's been gone for a long time.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: 80 on August 15, 2006, 10:51:54 PM Didn't Jack have to choose between two people who'd been in a car crash, because he could only save one, and he chose the bird he married? Did we find out who the other one was? Bet it was someone connected with the show, probably Helen and that's how Locke ended up in the chair. Go back and watch the episode with Shannong dying - it was her dad. Jack let Shannon's dad die - then Shannon's evil bitch step-mother took away all of her money and set her on the road to whoredom. Or am I imagining it? Dunno how I missed out on that one. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: CaliMag on August 15, 2006, 10:59:23 PM I know a few people that don't remember anything about Shannonn Rutherford or Boone Carlyle because they were both boring/irritating and killed off early so people just tend to block out any of their back-story. I think it would have been cool to keep Shannon around just so she could find out that Jack let her father die and then watch the tension... but oh well there is plenty of that in store with Sawyer and Locke who will no doubt be at eachother's throats when they discover their link (that is my guess anyway).
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 15, 2006, 11:02:19 PM Maggie Grace is down for a special guest role in season three. Probably in another flashback link.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: James on August 16, 2006, 05:47:01 PM I thought I saw Mr. Eko in Hurley's mental home - he was a nurse. Also, Leonard looks like Jack. Perhaps they are all actually inside the mental home.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 16, 2006, 07:22:37 PM I thought I saw Mr. Eko in Hurley's mental home - he was a nurse. Also, Leonard looks like Jack. Perhaps they are all actually inside the mental home. Nah that would be too easy to work out. Any possibility that has been mentioned in the show like last night's episode with Hurley is unlikely Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 16, 2006, 07:27:39 PM What I want to know is why Tom is wearing a fake beard and why there were jungle costumes hung up in that Medical Station like costumes. What do people reckon? You reckon the Others could be fake?
(https://www.lostpedia.com/images/thumb/b/b1/Zeke_two.jpg/800px-Zeke_two.jpg) In the Medical Station Infront of Jack and Everyone Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Optomystyc Nyt on August 16, 2006, 07:43:35 PM its to scare the fuselage and talilies imo.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 16, 2006, 09:13:55 PM According to secretagentman:
"303 is called " The Glass Ballerina". Sun has a dream of her future, featuring her 9 year old daughter." If these spoilers for the first three episodes are true, then it would seem that they're looking to develop the female characters early on, and give them plotlines to keep them ticking throughout the season. Interesting choice not to focus on Jack/Locke/Sawyer etc. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Bellars on August 16, 2006, 10:26:08 PM What I want to know is why Tom is wearing a fake beard and why there were jungle costumes hung up in that Medical Station like costumes. What do people reckon? You reckon the Others could be fake? (https://www.lostpedia.com/images/thumb/b/b1/Zeke_two.jpg/800px-Zeke_two.jpg) In the Medical Station Infront of Jack and Everyone I think it's been well hinted, especially with Walt's quotes towards season 2's end, as well as the sophisticated surgical equipment we saw in the flashback in Maternity leave, that the others are in fact very civilized and sophisticated. They only want the crash survivors to think that they are no worse than they are, for some unanswered reason. The Others are probobly not stranded on the island as they would have the survivors believe. Perhaps if the Losties knew how sophisticated they actually were, they would seek them out for a way to get off the island, which is exactly what the Others don't want. On another note, anyone else believe that Christian Shepard is the link between all of the survivors, and perhaps has some behind the scene role on the entire situation (perhaps he's not really dead)? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: CaliMag on August 16, 2006, 10:34:35 PM On another note, anyone else believe that Christian Shepard is the link between all of the survivors, and perhaps has some behind the scene role on the entire situation (perhaps he's not really dead)? A big link yes. I think Christian paid the fortune teller off to send Claire out - I think part of his friendless career was based on research for the Hanso Foundation and I think there is a link between him and Libby. And yes - I think he is alive and that Michelle Rodrigues' cahracter knew this - she was paid to set this up and never got to tell Jack the truth. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Bellars on August 16, 2006, 10:58:45 PM On another note, anyone else believe that Christian Shepard is the link between all of the survivors, and perhaps has some behind the scene role on the entire situation (perhaps he's not really dead)? A big link yes. I think Christian paid the fortune teller off to send Claire out - I think part of his friendless career was based on research for the Hanso Foundation and I think there is a link between him and Libby. And yes - I think he is alive and that Michelle Rodrigues' cahracter knew this - she was paid to set this up and never got to tell Jack the truth. So you're saying that perhaps the two (Jack and Ana) meeting before hand at the bar wasn't such a coincidence afterall, and Ana sought out Jack? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 17, 2006, 10:20:11 PM Hanso Foundation on island?
(https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/1364/3127/400/hansohomesetphoto.0.jpg) https://themisfitishere.blogspot.com/2006/08/another-world-exclusive-hanson-is-on.html Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 17, 2006, 10:22:46 PM the site looks quite dodgy though. Don't believe it much looking at his other 'exclusives'
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 17, 2006, 10:33:23 PM His blog is a joke, it's meant to be a parody of people who come out with insane 458 page theories on why Henry Gale smiled in a slightly evil manner in one scene.
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: CaliMag on August 17, 2006, 10:35:33 PM On another note, anyone else believe that Christian Shepard is the link between all of the survivors, and perhaps has some behind the scene role on the entire situation (perhaps he's not really dead)? A big link yes. I think Christian paid the fortune teller off to send Claire out - I think part of his friendless career was based on research for the Hanso Foundation and I think there is a link between him and Libby. And yes - I think he is alive and that Michelle Rodrigues' cahracter knew this - she was paid to set this up and never got to tell Jack the truth. So you're saying that perhaps the two (Jack and Ana) meeting before hand at the bar wasn't such a coincidence afterall, and Ana sought out Jack? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 17, 2006, 10:37:13 PM Did Jack actually find his empty coffin on the island? If so how?
Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Elephant on August 17, 2006, 10:38:29 PM I also believe that since Michelle ROdrigues never came to grips with her alcoholism (in real life) the writers have been hamstrung from doing anything super creative with this one. It's sad thing, you know. She's good actress, hope he can get rid of that.. And I really liked her in Lost. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: CaliMag on August 17, 2006, 10:39:32 PM I also believe that since Michelle ROdrigues never came to grips with her alcoholism (in real life) the writers have been hamstrung from doing anything super creative with this one. It's sad thing, you know. She's good actress, hope he can get rid of that.. And I really liked her in Lost. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 17, 2006, 10:40:34 PM Did Jack actually find his empty coffin on the island? If so how? Season one: "White Rabbit". Jack's dad (apparently a hallucination) led him to the caves, where the coffin was located. When Jack smashed it open it was empty. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 17, 2006, 10:41:53 PM Did Jack actually find his empty coffin on the island? If so how? Season one: "White Rabbit". Jack's dad (apparently a hallucination) led him to the caves, where the coffin was located. When Jack smashed it open it was empty. But how was the coffin there? Was it on the plane? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Elephant on August 17, 2006, 10:42:36 PM I also believe that since Michelle ROdrigues never came to grips with her alcoholism (in real life) the writers have been hamstrung from doing anything super creative with this one. It's sad thing, you know. She's good actress, hope he can get rid of that.. And I really liked her in Lost. I never said that she should be back in Lost, she's dead in that show.. I mean in real life, you know, there's life outside Lost too :D Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: CaliMag on August 17, 2006, 10:42:43 PM Did Jack actually find his empty coffin on the island? If so how? Season one: "White Rabbit". Jack's dad (apparently a hallucination) led him to the caves, where the coffin was located. When Jack smashed it open it was empty. But how was the coffin there? Was it on the plane? Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 17, 2006, 10:43:48 PM :D
There was a flashback of Jack trying to convince the airport woman to let him take the body on the plane. Whether or not he was allowed, and whether the body was supposed to have been in the coffin or not is still a mystery. Jack's reaction suggested that he was under the impression that it WAS supposed to have been in there though. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 17, 2006, 10:45:01 PM Did Jack actually find his empty coffin on the island? If so how? Season one: "White Rabbit". Jack's dad (apparently a hallucination) led him to the caves, where the coffin was located. When Jack smashed it open it was empty. But how was the coffin there? Was it on the plane? :lol: I didn't really watch the first series. Wasn't interested. Started at beginning of second and picked up as much as possible from first Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 17, 2006, 10:46:01 PM I suggest you go back and watch all of the first series tbh.
Things like the black and white stones (which haven't been mentioned since episode 6) are rumoured to play a big part in the mythology late on. Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Jonny Hall on August 17, 2006, 10:52:11 PM I suggest you go back and watch all of the first series tbh. Things like the black and white stones (which haven't been mentioned since episode 6) are rumoured to play a big part in the mythology late on. I considered it. Would be a bit confusing watching 2nd series then 1st series then 3rd series like :lol: Title: Re: LOST - ABC Pace *Entire Season Two Discussion/Season Three Build-Up* Post by: Andy on August 22, 2006, 06:03:57 PM I'm moving this to hall of fame in a minute, new thread to follow later :cool:
Overall verdict: good season, but hopefully season three will get back to the sheer awesomeness of season one. |