N-O Panel: Post Match Fulham (a)
By Jonny Hall On Mon 17 Dec 2007 |
A below-par game, against below-par opposition and a below-par performance. Sound familiar? Well there was a difference at Craven Cottage when Newcastle came away with a 1-0 victory over Fulham, after a last gasp penalty from Joey Barton. The lads fought hard, and we got our panel’s reaction to this fantastic result…
Rich
“Huzzah! A win, away from home! A clean sheet, away from home! A last minute winner, away from home! Is this Newcastle United?
It certainly didn’t seem like the archetypal performance from our Magpies as we contrived, with our opponents, to bore spectators rigid for an entire match before springing into life right at the end and snatching three points. The Entertainers this was not, thankfully, because I doubt they would have won this game. Sam Allardyce is reinventing the wheel here at Newcastle and I know a lot of us aren’t overly enamoured with what he and the lads have been doing so far, but results like this speak for themselves.
If you aren’t happy with watching a poor game of football which ends with your beloved team taking all three points and keeping a clean sheet, then please keep your trap shut and let the rest of us revel in it. Do you think those lads and lasses who heartily backed the team for the entire game would have minded one jot? That long journey back North would feel sweeter with a 0-1 victory and a performance like that than it would have done had we gone down all guns blazing, 4-3. Remember that? It wasn’t as fun for me as it was for the neutral (and Sky TV), to be honest. I’d have took a 0-1 there any day of the week.
We currently sit a mere 5 points behind Liverpool (who are in 5th place) and our next two games see us welcome Derby to Gallowgate and then travel to Titus Bramble’s new circus show at the JJB Stadium. Obviously, Chelsea (a) comes after that, but let’s not dampen the mood too much! What we saw here was a thoroughly professional and committed performance from a manager, team and formation lacking spark and creativity – but I’m still hoping that’s going to come later.
We have to get the basics right first – which we are starting to do more and more as time goes by – and then build from there. People claim Allardyce “doesn’t do†decent football, but if you saw Bolton much in his last few seasons there then you’d be hard-pressed to admit that they didn’t play some exciting stuff (at times). Of course we’ll never be Arsenal under his leadership, but we should be a damn sight better than we’ve been since 2003/04, and I’m personally happy enough with that.
Man of the Match: Charles N’Zogbia (because Beye can’t win it every week, man!)”
Tom
“Well there’s not a great deal that can be said about this game.
The first half was as dull as ditchwater with neither side looking too threatening up front.
The second half was only a little better, and as the game went on, a goalless draw looked to be a nailed on certainty.
There was no question over the injury time penalty which gave us the three points, but really the game should have been the nil all draw it looked like it was going to be.
So, another middling performance. I’m happy with the result, but our style of play leaves a lot to be desired. How many of us can actually say we’re pleased with the way we’re playing?”
Jonny
“YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
I am so relieved after that victory. It was a long time coming, and maybe we didn’t deserve it, but as people say this is a results business and boy was that a result!
It was clear in the second half that Allardyce had set out for a draw, and this was slightly frustrating as many, including I, thought we were past that sort of football. However, sometimes it is a case of going for the draw, and in doing that we were able to come away with a clean sheet; the first away from home in over 13 months with the last one coming in a 0-0 draw at the COMS against Manchester City.
And it was the former Man City boy Joey Barton who gave United the 3 points against the Cottagers. There can be disputes over the decision, but I believe that the collision was more of a penalty than that awarded in favour of Martins against Birmingham City last week.
Anyway, it was given and Barton looked cool in getting his first for the club. I’m glad he was cool because I was pacing my living room floor with worry and suspense; the Newcastle of 12 months ago would never have come away with victory.
Onto the defence: Considering it was his first game back since the Pompey horror show, Cacapa was IMMENSE. He looked so cool and composed on the ball, and his performance was one which we all know he is capable of. Habib Beye is in a class of his own. Again brilliant against Fulham, and he looks to be commanding that right hand flank really well, especially when Martins goes walkabouts in the centre, leaving him exposed on that side.
The midfield/attack were quite bad creative-wise in the game however. Geremi had one of his worst games for the club, Butt was a bit of a no-show and Martins was quite bad as well. They really need to improve or our game will get more and more boring.
It should have been better, but we won and got a clean sheet, and that is what is important.
MOTM: Beye was brilliant, but Cacapa just pips him to it. A rock in the centre of defence and looked in control for 90 minutes. Well done.”
Join us again next week for the buildup to the Sunday afternoon clash at St James against Derby.

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yea the everton game fair enough but i thought we were about on par with arsenal in the first half and we dominated the second so i think overall we were the better team and deserved a better result!
Sent in on: December 24th, 2007 at 5:50 am
Arsenal - 50/50 I reckon. They had the better of the first half, we were better in the second. Taking nothing away from the performance though, it was first rate.
Wigan - Aye, fair enough
Everton - I don’t think was that great. It was a flattering scoreline (on both sides) I thought.
Sent in on: December 22nd, 2007 at 11:13 pm
we dominated the Arsenal game, wigan game and everton game aswell mate
Sent in on: December 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 am
Adam, you’re right, we can’t be expected to play brilliantly everytime, I accept that. My problem is that we haven’t been playing well in enough games.
How many games have we actually dominated so far this season? I can only think of Bolton and Spurs, and 2 games in half a season isn’t really good enough is it?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m delighted with the three points and I agree we’d have lost that last year. We’ve definitely improved, no question about it, but I do like to see the ball passed around on the floor rather than being clogged about. I accept that sometimes you have to do that, and probably more so away than at home. But there haven’t been many games where we really have played well.
Right now, it feels a bit like the 1990/91 under Jim Smith where we didn’t play very well and hung around in mid table. I see that we can improve from where we were, but I don’t see it turning us into a side that can in time challenge the top 4 or 5.
Sent in on: December 21st, 2007 at 10:17 am
playing players out of position does concern me but in N’Zogbia’s case it does not. having seen enrique play a few times i can say i havnt been impressed he looks slow, takes too many touches on the ball and just looks poor and i believe that charles has beeen great for us!!!
Sent in on: December 20th, 2007 at 4:12 am
I’d like to start with: Cacapa - An apology. For the 2nd week a row my words are shoved down my throat. That’s two players (Him and Beye) who I was critical of at the start of the season who are now looking good.
Anyway. Our new players are starting to get used to the prem, are gelling well and looking solid and are not push overs now.
The mentality of Sam and the team has changed since the Liverpool game and not only do they seem to realise 3 points are expected at places like Fulham, they now believe they can get three points at places like Fulham. They kept going the full 90. Great stuff!
Players played out of position still worry me (Martins on right wing, Zog at left back) and this needs to change, but we should get three points against Derby and at Wigan in our upcoming games. Obviously Chelsea away is a write-off.
But then the transfer window opens - Creativity in the middle, please! Lets throw some money at CSKA Moscow to land Daniel Carvalho, an excellent creative Brazilan international midfielder / striker. The same trick worked for Man City to get his international team-mate Elano.
Sent in on: December 18th, 2007 at 9:29 am
Bang on Rich, well said mate!..They were the ones playin’ for the draw, their crowd was silent, wor defense did an excellent job away from hyem…Didn’t hear any of the typical pundits praising us for a change!..& like you said: we’re ’still only 5 points behind’ the ‘mighty’ liverpool in 5th…Funny how other teams can win ugly & still get the plaudits!?!..We play well in defense & it’s obviously a shit game!..Sorry tho’ man, Beye was motm, but i sense you know that!.. ;]
Sent in on: December 17th, 2007 at 11:07 pm
It was a dull game, but manure won league championships with dull wins, games they shouldn’t have won and 1-0 nil in 97th minute well before time added on was accurately timed by a fourth official. I for one can live with games and results like this as long as it leads to some consistancy and reward. The times it has worried me this season is when in the Liverpool match we looked happy to defend a 2-0 loss before they scored their third. That is not acceptable. Hopefully good results will lead to more entertaining football. Looking forward to the Derby match and another 3 points.
Ian.
Sent in on: December 17th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
oi tom, howay man its two games where we havent played ‘brilliant’ football but we cant every game can we? u expect too much why cant you be as delighted as Jonny who clearly is a hardcore geordie who wud be amazed we got not 1 but 3 points wen last year we wud have lost that game man! the lads cant produce eye-catching football all the time yah nah! Now lets kick the shite out of Derby.
Adam
Sent in on: December 17th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Martins was quite bad??!!??
You realise Martins is a striker asked to be played out of position on the wing?
Sent in on: December 17th, 2007 at 6:52 pm