The debate on the next manager starts here
By James Collins On Tue 24 Oct 2006 |
Let’s face it. Glenn Roeder will never do the job for Newcastle that all fans hoped he would do no matter how hard he tries. And the time will soon come when the club will have to admit that the good person that is Mr. Roeder is not good enough, shake his hand and wish him all the best.
However, that would lead the club in a bit of a stew, for there are no real candidates from within the club who can be perceived as ideal caretaker boss material, and hence a much quicker appointment would be required this time around, and hence, to get ahead in the inevitable merry-go-round, I feel that I must get ahead of the game and reveal my own preference for the identity of the next manager of Newcastle United.
To predict the future, one must look at the past. The initial reaction from Freddy Shepherd over the years has been to appoint a manager who is going to fix the problems that are currently afflicting the club. At the time of his departure, Keegan’s Newcastle just needed to defend better if we wanted to win the league.
Shepherd appointed Dalglish, a defensive manager, who changed an excellent attacking side into this boring defensive unit, which stopped producing results. Inevitably Dalglish was sacked and replaced with the sexy Ruud Gullit. When Gullit walked, we had a team who were lacking in any confidence or game plan. In comes Sir Bobby Robson, fabled man-manager and yet another polarisation.
This appointment turned out to be a success, for Robson not only offered a polarisation from the previous manager, he also happened to be the best manager of his generation, and also had the support of three of our most influential players ever – Gary Speed, Rob Lee and Alan Shearer, who all helped keep the young players in check.
When things went stale, it had appeared that Robson had lost the support of some of our big name younger players (a catalyst of this of course being the decision to sell Gary Speed), so our chairman had a stroke of inspiration which only he could have, and sacked Robson, replacing him with hard-man disciplinarian Graeme Souness – the manager of an ill-disciplined, low in confidence Blackburn side which were bottom of the table.
Under Souness, we put in our worst string of results performances since the appointment of Keegan, with several players looking shot of confidence. Souness was also a very high maintenance manager, requiring a large transfer kitty, big name players and an entourage (or should I say coaching staff?).
When Souness was inevitably sacked, caretaker boss Glenn Roeder showed himself to be the polarisation of the Souness regime, restoring the players confidence, and stringing together a good run of results during his honeymoon period. Many fans believe that this made Shepherd aware that Roeder was a low maintenance manager, and that this was the decisive factor when it came to finalising the decision on who to appoint.
For me, Roeder has demonstrated two major flaws with his management of the club. The first flaw is his obvious inability to operate in the transfer market, an outcome of his indecisiveness and his last minute bidding, which was inevitably going to fail. The other flaw is his inabilty to react to how a match is unfolding – he has bought substitutes on too late to make a difference, and has not made any successful changes of personnel or tactics to react to the second half fight-backs by the opposition, which has now occurred against Fulham, Everton, Bolton and Middlesborough, resulting in nine dropped points against average teams.
All experienced Newcastle fans know that Roeder’s days are numbered, it is no longer a question of if, but when.
So when it happens, who will the favourites be? You can bet your bottom dollar that Alan Curbishley, Sven Goran Eriksson, Ottmar Hitzfeld and Alan Shearer will all be linked. Yet I do not feel that any of these individuals would be the right appointment at the present time.
Alan Curbishley may appeal to many on the club’s board as he has demonstrated an ability to perform decently in the Premiership despite a low maintenance level, and has shown an ability to get the best out of his younger players. However, he had failed to raise Charlton above mediocrity, and failed to get the best out of his so-called better players like Dennis Rommedahl, who had been signed in an attempt to raise Charlton above this mediocrity.
Sven Goran Eriksson would be a high profile name, who has enjoyed regular success in both the Italian leagues and at international level (if you consider three consecutive quarter-finals in major tournaments as successful), and in his early days as England boss, he demonstrated an ability to get the best out of the slightly poorer and more inexperienced players in the squad.
And perhaps the recent performances by England under McClaren demonstrate that the Swede did have some sort of managerial ability in spite of recent claims from the media. However, indications of him preferring a more negative style of play, the apparent inability to look past certain favourite players, and the fact that he seems to fail to take his sides above a certain level means that he probably wouldn’t succeed at this club, and he is unlikely to endear himself with the fans either.
Regular readers of Newcastle-Online will be aware of the supreme abilities of Ottmar Hitzfeld – the only manager to win the Champions League with two different clubs. However, although it would be great to be proved wrong, I feel that Hitzfeld would be doomed to fail at St. James’ Park. Initially, I would expect him to improve results and performances, but he would try to change the culture of the club, and due to our unique makeup, I can anticipate certain major shareholders, some of the players, and a core minority of supporters being resistant to this culture change, and Hitzfeld (or any similar foreign manager) will most likely find themselves out of the door before they can even lay the foundations.
A common attribute of a team enjoying a period of relative success is that the name of the manager and the name of the club can be mentioned side by side, i.e. Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle United, Bobby Robson’s Newcastle United, Arsene Wenger’s Arsenal, Paul Jewell’s Wigan and Chris Coleman’s Fulham.
In contrast, Souness never deserved to be mentioned in the same sentence as the club, while Roeder, although he is deserving of being the club’s captain, coach and babysitter, it is not right to describe our team as Glenn Roeder’s Newcastle United.
To rephrase all that, a successful manager makes a club his own, and to do this he must possess both ability and an affinity with the club. A manager may not have a natural affinity, but he can create it through reshaping the club’s structure culture or by enjoying some success in the process.
This is what the likes of Hitzfeld would do, though unfortunately, as mentioned I cannot see a manager being able to oversee a cultural or structural change in the foreseeable future and thus the likes of Hitzfeld would be inappropriate for the managerial role. Sam Allardyce would also have to be ruled out for the same reasons, and in fact, I suspect this was the main reason he chose to reject us in 2004.
Finding a successful manager who would require little change at the club is unlikely. Shepherd missed the boat with Martin O’Neill last season for whatever reasons, leaving a big black blot on Fat Fred’s copybook as far as many fans are concerned. As it stands, there is no-one who fits this bill who also happens to be available.
Therefore, we will have to find an individual with a pre-made affinity with the club. The first name that I would expect many to think of having read the prior statement is Alan Shearer. Undoubtedly, such an appointment would split the fans down the centre, many would expect him to bring back the days of Keegan, while others would be unhappy at appointing such an inexperienced manager.
Inexperience is not necessarily a bad thing, as all good managers have to start somewhere. Knowledge of things like tactics and coaching are only a small part of the make-up of a manager, and limitations in these areas can be compensated by surrounding yourself with an outstanding backroom staff.
This is something which the likes of O’Neill do to great success. Another example would be the important role Jurgen Klinnsman’s backroom staff played in getting Germany to the semi-final of the World Cup. Therefore, what really needs to be looked at when considering whether a player can make a good manager, is to look at their character, personality and people skills.
When you look at Shearer, you see stubbornness, you see aloofness, and you see him announcing live on the BBC that Rooney should lay into Cristiano Ronaldo at training as an act of revenge.
Alan Shearer does not appear to have the mindset of a manager – confrontation is the last thing we need right now. It is wise to remember the old adage that great players do not make great managers. We laughed at Sunderland appointing Roy Keane – many described him as the ‘new Souness.’ That tag could just as easily be used for Shearer if he was to become manager.
The timing of the appointment would also be wrong – Shearer still has too many friends at the club, and this would make it too difficult for him to make tough decisions. This is a huge contrast to Keegan’s return, for when Keegan came here to manage us, the only things that had not changed were the city and the fans.
Shearer does have his attributes however, mostly his international reputation, and the huge influence he continues to hold. In fact, he is probably the only individual who can stand up to the antics of Shepherd and the local media.
Consequently, I would encourage Shearer’s appointment as either a Director of Football or Sporting Director, as I feel that he would both improve our operation in the transfer market, and could protect the manager, especially if they happened to be friends.
So if not Shearer, who?
The new manager needs to be someone who has a pre-made affinity with the club. Someone who can quickly gain the loyalty of the players. Someone with experience of working with both high-maintenance and low maintenance players – perhaps someone who has already shown that he can handle and protect the likes of Craig Bellamy without stifling their ability.
Someone who has shown that he can work with the younger players. Someone who has played at several very different clubs under very different managers. Someone who has shown that he is the real club captain on and off the pitch. Someone used to being in an atmosphere where teamwork and performances come before individuals and reputations.
Someone who isn’t averse to sticking in some constructive public criticism where needed. Someone who unlike Roeder, has shown that he can motivate the team to attack for ninety minutes and has demonstrated an ability to react positively to unfolding matchday situations.
As far as I can tell, there is just one man who fits that bill, yet he is inexperienced as both a manager and a coach. Yet I believe that surrounded by excellent coaches such as Kevin Blackwell, Phil Brown and Alan Irvine, and with the likes of Terry Venables or Graham Taylor being brought in as a mentor, this person would make an excellent Newcastle United manager.
Heck, with a coaching set-up like that, he could even afford to put on his boots and play an occasional spell in the midfield or left-back – it would at least get our subdued crowd going.
For me, Gary Speed is the man for the job.

It’s interesting that after so much media hype and phoney bloodlust, the real football fans recognise the abilities and achievements that Sven G E brought to the England squad transforming decades of mediocre results into over five years of the most consistant and successful performance on record (short of bringing home the trophies. If we are lucky enough to gain a period of Sven’s winning ways my vote would be with him every time!
Look at England’s performance since he departed (was driven out by the media?).
Sent in on: October 25th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
The only way to sort this would be for Fat Fred to go
The only thing he has done that is cosistant is to take the easy option and appoint managers that waste what money they have to spend on generally overated or injury prone players and make loosing a lead into an art form!!
Sent in on: October 25th, 2006 at 11:48 am
A well thought out piece in my opinion & came to a conclusion I’d not thought of but I can certainly see the logic. But I would imagine Speed would not be available till Jan or the summer… so lets keep cheering on Roeder till then.
Sent in on: October 25th, 2006 at 10:13 am
The rot is in the top, Shepard may be the guy that needs to go, he when it comes to enhancing the club has failed to move Newcastle forward and the buck must stop with him. Our current manager is not big enough to handle the environment, even at Westham he struggled after inital success but the sign of a good manager is the ability to carry on. Glenn Roeder at best would be an assistant.
Start with the appointment of a director of coaching - Ottmar Hitzfeld and then look for a manager who could work with him but also be independant and I suggest Claudio Ranieri (he did nothing wrong at Chelsea it was just that the new owners wanted another man - rember if he achieved some of the sucess he got at Chelsea at Newcastle then we wouldn’t complain - Mourihino success initially was based on players primarily bought by Claudio.
Next would be to a appoint decent marketing manager - the game’s going to globalisation and Newcastle has failed to make in roads (in particular feeder clubs).
Manager’s assistants should be making use of local talent who could pick up the overseas experiences brought in by the 1st two appointments.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
I’d have to take the Ottmar Hitzfeld option but I think Freddy will have to give him a ammount of money in the souness reigion to get him.
But if you look at his track record and what he has won you can only come to wanting him if he is available.
You are spot on though that his ideas about the culture needed to bring sucsess being the mirror image to what Freddy has here. But Freddy needs to accept that his time at the club has shown that this cant continue, and he needs to do something before he looses the fans all together.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 8:43 pm
Interesting article but to say gary speed is the man for the job is weak. He is a great example to all on the field but he lacks the ingredients that make a great manager just look at wenger,ferguson,mourinho and benitez they all possess techinques with dealing with big players.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 7:24 pm
Thanks to everyone who has read and/or responded to this article.
The main purpose of this piece was not necessarily to endorse Gary Speed as potentially the next Newcastle manager, but to:
a) raise doubts as to whether a top manager that would want to change the culture of the club could succeed with such conservative individuals as Shepherd around the place. Therefore, as long as Shepherd remains in charge, we have to find an excellent manager who can conform with the club - and that makes it a lot more difficult to identify any candidates.
b) To point out that Shepherd’s suppossed last throw of the dice i.e. the appointment of Shearer would be a bad move, as there are other players out there who make better management material than Shearer ever will.
In response to criticisms that this article lacks support for Roeder, and that we should be continuing to back the manager, I have to point out that the reason the hatred of Shepherd is now steamrolling out of control is the consequence of Shepherd being blamed for appointing the wrong managers, not for him sacking them. Therefore, criticism of Shepherd must also equate as being unhappiness about the performance of Roeder and his predecessors (bar Robson). Lets face it, we have a squad of players who should be doing better than this, yet they are not - that is a management issue.
Anyway, keep the comments going, I’m enjoying reading them.
Taylor27.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 5:56 pm
An interesting article but spoilt by your choice of Speed. We are now are at the point of needing a really big manager to sort the club out once and for all. To all those who say we have had big managers I totally disagree, how many have gone on to bigger thing after leaving us, not many, if any. Robson maybe was a big manager at one time but was way past his best when he came to us and acted accordingly. Also to get the big manager in we have got to get rid of Shepherd who interferes too much in the football side of the club and this stops big name people from coming here. So in conclusion possibly Hitzfield with a Gibson-like chairman would be a good option.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
Gary Speed? Absolute Nonsence. He would be another gamble because he is unproven. We need an experienced manager with a good knowledge of the English game and the one that sticks out for me is Gerard Houllier. He has continued Le Geun’s work at Lyon and has unfinished business in the premiership.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Some interesting points well made by both sides here. I can see the argument that it might be a bit too soon to call for Roeder’s head, but then again how many chances do we allow him before we recognise that he may not be good enough? Isn’t that how Tit. Shambles makes the team sheet week in-week out? One point I would like to add is that yeah, Roeder did bid for defenders to replace Moore and Shambles, and the bids were knocked back, but does that excuse him from reportedly refusing the services of Sol Campbell? Now I know he is well past his best, and the wages are probably steep, but he is doing well at Pompey, and surely even at his worst is a better option than Shambles?
I like the idea of Gary Speed, quality player and will make a very good manager if he goes that way. It might not be popular, but I do not believe that even when Sir Alan decides that he will go into management he will be any good. We have seen great players make awful managers before. (remember Bryan Robson)
I don’t necessarily believe that the next manager should be a Geordie with a background in the club, in fact if he is to put his own stamp on the club, then it would be better that he didn’t! I also would agree that the culture at the club needs to be changed, we all know if it isn’t broke don’t fix it, well the reverse is true too, and what we have now isn’t working and needs fixing. We do need to stabalise, and as much as I would like it, and I do think it is important to get behind the manager, but enough is enough, I don’t think Roeder is the man for the job. One man no one might have thought of but is doing an excellent job where he is is Lawrie Sanchez. I mean if he can inspire a god-awful team like Northern Ireland to beat England, Spain and even draw with Denmark, he must have something!! With a bit of money behind him, he might just do a job for us!
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 1:13 pm
Souness had the best post Keegan string of results upto Dyer and Bowyer having their spat, but the fans always had it in for him.
Robson overstayed his welcome but did a good job initially.
Forget Speed, Shearer or Curbs - the only man is Sven with maybe Roeder as assisant and Beckham captain. We need a buzz about the place and Sven is the only one who could attract exciting quality players to join the new regime.
Retain Roeder or appoint Speed if you accept we are not a big club and will continue to win sweet FA. Maybe we should just accept we are a small club with a big inflated ego!!!!!!
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 1:12 pm
Dominic of course the notion that we are the best in the world etc. is a load of crap I agree but then there aren’t many in our ranks who would claim such a thing, it is usually the media who do on our behalf which frankly, we can’t do a lot about.
But lets not put our support down too much which is still one of the best. I’d like to see the likes of Liverpool pack them away like we do without a domestic trophy in over 50 years or any club for that matter.
Look at Chelsea they are showing empty seats as are a whole host of clubs who are having a better time than we are at the moment and as for the atmopshere, it is poor but it is the same all over the country.
We have our knackers and we are as fickle, melodramatic and as zanny as any but we are top supporters.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Souness until the Dyer/Bowyer spat managed to get the best run we’ve had since Keegan but the fans didn’t like him.
Robson was good initially but should have gone at the end of the season we finished 5th.
Daglish and Gullitt were a disgrace.
Roeder had a good run with Souness’s fitter squad now he’s tinkered with it we are crap.
Now we must applaud Souness for making Shearer stay on another season.
But, to the future - Only one answer - of available managers has to be Sven with Roeder assistant and Beckham captain. Swen is the only man to generate a buzz about the place and attract big names - forget Shearer, Curbs and Speed unless you accept we will never be a big club in the future, or maybe eventually we are accepting the facts that we are a small time club who never win anything! If this is the case keep Roeder or get Speed.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 1:05 pm
Interesting article and I have no fears that Speed would be a good move but and of course it’s abig but - will we be patient enough to allow him time to bed in and get things organised from his perspective. I suspect that the answer would be ‘no’ just as the current situation is showing.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
Good article (bit potted history) ruined by the farcical call for Gary Speed supported by the likes of Venners and Graham Taylor of all people!
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
Canny read Taylor lad. Gary Speed strikes me as a very considered man and he was an excellent leader at St. James’ Park - everyone thought highly of him and he was always helping the younger players. It is safe to say we have missed his leadership in that sense these past two years. Whether he would make a good manager or not however remains to be seen.
I do disagree with your comments regarding our set-up, I firmly believe the culture of the club needs changed and that we need to get away from the Geordie sentimentality of appointing Geordies or as in your example of Speed, ex-players with a feel for the club.
However with the current mob in control I agree, we are unlikely to allow such a culture change so maybe we may have to go down such a route. I can’t see many managers falling over themselves for the job should Roeder get the chop so I can see why you’ve went for Speed.
Lets hope Roeder gets over this troubled period though because we can’t keep changing managers all the time. We go through them like Formula 1 cars go through tires.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
Mikey, please dont lose sight of the important role Terry Mac played under Keegan and Kenny. Kevin Keegan once said that Terry Mac was the greatest Newcastle signing he ever made. Terry Mac is our most experienced head on the bench.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 12:10 pm
I can’t agree more with Joel’s comments.The so called best fans in the world?Are we?Lets be honest here the atmosphere at SJP is a joke because the club have become,like alot of the premier league.corporate.
This is not an excuse,the good old times of fortress SJP are long gone we are no longer feared as a team or as fans.
Instead of moaning about mangers,coaches and chairman etc maybe we the fans should be taking a hard look at ourselves and try and make SJP what it once was
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 11:57 am
You’re saying you wouldn’t like (at their peak) Robert, Bellamy & Bowyer (for all their problems) playing for Newcastle now?
I’m not sure I’d call Jenas poor either.
Do you really think if Robson had stayed on till the end of that season thing would be worse than they are now? I think they’d be MUCH better (although probably still not great), they should have let his contract run out and spent that time getting in a top draw successor (they probably could even have kept Robson on for his experience as a Director of Football or something in that scenario as well).
And it’s not just what a manager can buy but what he can get out of players already there, and Robson got a lot out of players Ruud looked like leading to a lower division.
If they are going to get rid of Roeder they need to appoint a decent manager on a long term contract and give him time to work, and money to work with and accept that there will be the occasional bad run or even bad season (happens to the best managers and the best teams) and that Newcastle will not be winning the Premiership and the Champions League in the first year (or even first 5 mostly likely).
Otherwise the same old nonsense of the last 9.5 years will just keep on happening again and again and again.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 11:56 am
As ever, a fine article on an excellent website.
However, unlike most things I read here, I have to disagree. Not with your assessment of each man mentioned for the job, but your take on the way forward for the club.
Im not so convinced about the importance of the “culture” and “feel” of the club.
If success comes and the fans are happy those at the top will have no option but to not rock the boat, especially now after so many Shepherd cock-ups and the fans being at their wits end. You could counter-argue that that is what happened during Robson’s last year with the chairman (it did I admit) but fans look back now on his time with a little too much respect - some of his buys were as bad as other managers and he did lose the plot on various issues, despite the joy he brought up.
After all the failures I believe it would be a crazy gamble to put in place Gary Speed or Alan Shearer, along with the coaches mentioned to back them up.
I don’t doubt that they could succeed and take Newcastle to a higher level, but from where we are at the moment we have to (in my view) get on board an experienced coach. Those without experience can work out, no doubt, but at this point in time the club just cannot afford to take another risk. I, and many others, said the same thing when Roeder was appointed…..
Curbishley could be a success - he’s done it with the youths and at a smaller club, but like you say his handling of a big-name player wasn’t a good sign.
So, personally I can think of only a few men who could really make a difference.
We have to accept Hitzfeld and Hiddink are out of our reach now, but I honestly think Eriksson would bring something to us.
For a start, I’d rather win ugly than lose playing Keegan-esque football. And, he WOULD attract big name players.
Put another manager with limited experience in charge, don’t make the progress desired and it won’t be long before Owen, N’Zogbia, Parker and Milner will be at clubs on the up.
Eriksson I reckon will always be a league manager, not an international one. He said he missed the day-to-day work with the players. Be fair he did pretty well overall for England, he could do better for us in my opinion.
There is one other option - Claudio Ranieri. He has Premiership experience, is a good manager, can play good football, and again could attract big players. He’d love to get back to managing in England - and we’re the perfect club for him.
In closing, in an ideal world I’d love to see one of these men in charge, with Speed, Shearer and Alan Irvine returning to join the coaching staff. I would never throw away the opportunity to have Terry Venables helping out the club in some way either.
The fact we have Terry McDermott and Nigel Pearson at the moment goes to show how far the mighty have fallen.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 11:42 am
I completly agree with you, Joel Teague. We need to stop rushing to judge managers!
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 11:31 am
An excellent article to all accounts but Gary Speed? I certainly dont agree. When Keegan walked away all those years ago would we have accepted Ranieri, Eriksson, Hitzfeld, Curbishley..i think most of us would, all are experienced enough to help NUFC back on track. They are there for the taking so why are we waiting.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 11:27 am
Oh and if we’re talking about appointing successful ex-Newcastle players why not just stick with the one who’s already in charge: GLEN ROEDER!
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 11:19 am
Freddie doesn’t just appoint a knee-jerk opposite as manager - he also almost always goes for either the cheapest or the easiest option (often both the same thing)
Dalglish - Out of work when appointed
Gullit - Out of work when appointed
Robson - Out of work when appointed
Souness - Inexplicable at any level
Roeder - The easy option
He has never made an appointment where has has had to think, really think, about what it is the club needs.That is other perhaps than that of Souness where if that is an example of Freddie actually thinking, perhaps we should count our blessings.
Sure, he got it right once - with Bobby it was more by luck than judgement - but he shouldn’t be allowed to make another lazy or incompetent appointment. He shouldn’t be allowed to make another appointment at all.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 10:57 am
I agree with Dodds in so much as I think we need to see a period of stability and growth before we start th8inking about challening for the title or anything.
Second, don’t glorify Robson. When Robson was at his height over half of the team was already here when he got here. Yes, he did do some good stuff at newcastle but he made a lot of mistakes as well. When the team was at it’s best under robson must of his key players were already at Newcastle before he came. Given, Shearer, Speed, Hughes, Solano, Dyer. Robso was here for years and yet we were still relying on players who were already at the club. Do you know why? Because the players that Robson bought to replace them weren’t good enough, thats why!! Bassedas, Acuna, Jenas, O’Brien, Cordone, Viana, BRAMBLE! Sir Bobby, for all that he[’s a lovely man and I wish him well, won us NOTHING and wasted a lot of money on very poor players. He also bought trouble makers who weren’t good enough like Robert, Bellamy and Bowyer. He also sold top class committed players who actually cared about the club, like Solano and speed.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 10:17 am
Typical knee-jerk reaction from a Newcastle fan. ‘Roeder will never be good enough’, how on earth do you know that?! First off, try finding out about who Roeder and is backroom team are. Just because they aren’t big names people doesn’t mean they can’t bring success to the club. Newcastle has appointed plenty of big name managers in the past and what have they brought the club? NOTHING!!! They’ve wasted heaps of money and haven’t done much else!
Roeder actually cares about the club and understands the expectations of the fans. In the past big name appointments have generally understood neither. Roeder has bought some good players with a very limited budget. But we’ve had za poor sstart and people are already talking about replacing him! Are you for real?! Think about this: Roeder has essentially bought two players, the rest of he team were already here when he got here. Now, who’s fault do you think the team’s deficiencies are? Did Roeder buy Bramble and Moore? NO. Did he try to buy replacements for them in the summeer only ffor the selling club to knock back our bids? YES.Is Roeder to blame for the under investment in the defence by previous manages? NO. Did Roeder make Shearer retire or injure Owen’s knee? NO. Did Roeder spend all the clubs money on rubbish players so there’d be none left for him to spend? NO.
Roeder is trying to drag this club into the 21st century but all some of you want to do is repeat the mistakes of the past!! Keep sacking managers, appoint big name managers who don’t care about the club then whinge about them when they waste money on awful players and don’t play attacking football. Then when you’ve got sick opf that you’ll whinge until shepherd sacks them then you can start the whole ridiculous merry go round all over again…..
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 10:02 am
Here we go again. A great article (damn good writing), well argued, but ten months too early.
We’ve won nowt for decades, and nobody seems to want to admit the one constant during that period. It’s not Fat Fred, though I’d be happy to see him go (the real culprit for a lousy transfer session, I suspect), and it’s certainly not managers, who change more often than a Liverpool starting line-up.
It’s us, stoopid.
The Toon Army. A world famous shouting force and the reason my blood started to run black and white in the first place. But also more fickle than an Italian with a Nazi at the front door.
Six matches does not make a lost season, or give any indication of the abilities of a manager. I agree that some of his touchline work has been a bit odd and ineffective, but who can separate that from other issues, when he’s only been in charge for a few weeks of season?
Here’s the point: we have to stop scuppering our own team by calling for heads to roll as soon as we lose a few matches.
We’ve got to start doing what other fan bases do so often that we don’t even notice: shut up and let things unfold. We’re the common factor to decades of failure - it’s we, the Toon Army, that have to change.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 9:55 am
yeh i kinda agree, i never thought of speed before but it is a very intresting idea especialy if we could get that backroom staff in.
In my Opinion we need to become a Charlton - Curbishley side for a few years, stabalising the club, staying out of the limelight and getting rid of the memories of the disaster that was Souness etc then we cam prepare for another PUSH under a higher class manager Perhaps Hitzfeld.
Only problem with that is many fans are to impatient, and full of themselves these days, would they really want the club to buy low fame players? i think its vital to become the type of team Charlton were a few years ago, and then attempt another Revolution such as Keegan and Sir Bobby under Hitzfled or any other good managers around at the time.
(On Another note, to fans who read this :P - Stop boasting to other clubs about how good our support is, because the atmosphere in the stands from us is just a complete joke these days. I have never been so ashamed to be a toon supporter than right now, all our fans going around believing what the press tell them that were the best fans in country etc. So i guess am trying to say instead of boasting how you beleive we are best fans, go out and PROVE IT!)
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 9:53 am
Good call on Gary Speed, I would also like to add Peter Beardsley as his Assistant. Peter has the experience of coaching and with the added talents of Clarkie you have experience and talent but more importantly you have 3 guys with a affinity to the club. Gary Speed has a ruthless streak in him but unlike the Lion of Gosforth knows when to and not to use it.
I would also like to have a closer look at Curbishley. You make a valid point about not getting Charlton above mediocrity but he came close, and lets not forget he was at CHARLTON and with all due respect to Charlton, if they get into the top half of the league then that is a good season. So your arguement there although true in content is a little harsh on the manager. It would be like saying Keegan was not successful (In my eyes he was, being the 2nd best team in the country twice is a success).
However, I would be happy with Speedo but he must have good backroom staff to help him out. The only problem I would have with him is if he ever tried to get his mate Bellamy back.
As for O’Neill, well lets just say he is a very clever man. He knew taking charge of Villa was an easy option. He was always onto a winner. If he failed at villa then he had the excuse that Villa are a poor team and even O’Neill couldn’t save them. However, had he taken over at Newcastle, he knew that if he had failed here then his reputaion would be tarnished and he would not be the “Sacred One” anymore.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 9:49 am
I would like to see Trond Sollied from Olympiakos go to Newcastle. He has had success with both Gent in Belgium and Olympiakos.
Sent in on: October 24th, 2006 at 9:28 am