Some people are describing it as inevitable, some are saying they can’t wait. In both cases, people are talking about the seemingly imminent departure of England international Kieron Dyer. He might be overpaid and he might have had his problems in the past but letting Dyer go would be a massive step backwards for this club. If he does leave and isn’t replaced then let us hope Allardyce’s proposed revolution includes divine intervention.
Putting Dyer’s obvious quality aside for a second; losing this versatile midfielder would leave a big hole in our squad – simply because we don’t have enough bodies. Right now, promises from the management or not, our squad is depleted and on the verge of collapse. When we have more pressing needs to remove the cringe-worthy Stephen Carr and Celestine Babayaro from the team – why has Kieron Dyer come into the firing line? Losing Dyer would leave us with all sorts of problems because the members of the squad that can replace him would leave other positions free for players who simply aren’t good enough or are not at the club yet.
When on form, the quality of this player is evident. As well as his natural ability to run on the ball and beat defenders with pace, over the past few seasons we’ve seen Kieron score with his head, score from outside the area, score one on ones and score classy back-heels all with outstanding technique. Off-field problems always put the supporters off, but anyone welcoming Joey Barton to Newcastle can’t use that as a reason to offload.
He does get paid too much, that is a fact. But who cares? We don’t pay his wages. All that matters to us is the fact that he turns up to training and puts the required amount off effort in on the pitch. We all know he’s not a winger – we can all remember his conflict with Bobby Robson but with Dyer in an attacking role in the middle of the park he is the best player on there time after time and proves himself sufficiently to be the first name on the team-sheet. I firmly believe Kieron Dyer’s injury problems are behind him. That big problem he had, whatever it was, has gone. With a bit of support from the fans and the coaching staff, Dyer can become a big part of the future. He is a very good player.
It’s no surprise that there is interest from numerous Premiership clubs. If there is one lesson to be learned from this; it is that if there is so much interest in a player – he’s probably worth keeping.

What do you think to Kieron Dyer? Now that things are looking more positive at the club, do you think he should be given another chance like everyone else? Have your say.
I agree that the squad is too small to be offloading players and that KD has excellent qualities but more often than not he doesn’t produce the goods.
He’s like a car I had years ago, I loved it and “when” it was working there was nothing like it. Unfortunately it only worked when it felt like it (which wasn’t very often). The bottom line was, it had to go. Broke my heart but I needed a car that was reliable and performed day after day. In hindsight is was the right decision.
Your head must rule your heart, there’s no room for sentiment in this.
KD is exactly the same, in my heart of hearts I’ll be sad to lose him because he has fantastic potential but at this stage of his career he should be unstoppable. He’s not, far from it.
My only other thought would be that maybe, just maybe BSA can bring him around.
Regardless of what’s happens, he has woefully underperformed for us on a consistent basis.
Two or three “wonder” games a season simply isn’t good enough.
We need people putting in quality performances week in, week out.
Sent in on: July 27th, 2007 at 1:55 pm
If the club sells Dyer, they better buy someone Huge.
I hope he stays, but if the likes of gerrard can be brought in, then i suppose Dyer can be released
Sent in on: July 27th, 2007 at 6:19 am
Well regardless what all of us say on here, Allardyce has come out and said that it is likely that Dyer is more than likely on his way because of family reasons. Story was broke on official NUFC today.
Sent in on: July 25th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
“Of course it’s us who pay for his wages, with our season tickets, merchandise etc.”
Aye well maybe if we all stop buying merchandise and season tickets he might get the sack. Or not…
Sent in on: July 25th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
He is a decent footballer and thats it! All of this talk about being the best player on HIS DAY - Thats the problem, he chooses his days! Anybody can be the best player on “their day” look at Bramble!!!
Despite this we cannot let Dyer go as he is versatile and we are not in the position to sell anyone right now. (I will accept offers for Carr and Baba). But this guy is overpaid and over rated. As I said he is a good footballer but it appears that all the managers want to place their trust in him, and I don’t see why?? HE would make a decent right back with the right coaching, but he would probably spit out the dummie!
Sent in on: July 25th, 2007 at 10:23 am
“He does get paid too much, that is a fact. But who cares? We don’t pay his wages.”
What stupid remark.
Who cares? I care for a start.
Of course it’s us who pay for his wages, with our season tickets, merchandise etc.
If he doesn’t want to be here he should go.
It’s Bellamy all over again.
I think Sam will and should get someone better and more commited.
Sent in on: July 25th, 2007 at 9:09 am
Dyer would be a great loss for us, as he is such a versatile player. i must admit myself i am getting a bit worried that we haven’t signed anyone in a while. don’t care who we get in as there are only 17!! days left till the premiership kicks off. would like to get a new left back and a centre back and with Barton being injured that zheng zhi is looking good for a loan
from what we have seen at Charlton.
WHAT DO YOU THINK
Sent in on: July 25th, 2007 at 8:38 am
By the way, I too think that our squad is way too short and he can’t go until he is replaced with 2 new midfielders.
We are desperate for 4 defenders, a RB, a CB and 2 LB’s. 2 midfielders (if Dyer wants away) and we will have a great squad.
It’s not massive money to bring these in. £25 million covers it but you would easily get £5 million for Dyer (or Emre if he goes) so less than £20 million overall.
Far less than the reported £50 million warchest that was reported.
Either way, good luck to Big Sam and his transfer market forays. Can’t wait for the season and will support the boys as always (Dyer included) as we are there to support the shirt at the end of the day. I don’t believe that players should be boo’d on match days but chat forums are there for people to express their opinion. That’s why we all love football so much. The only sport where you can just about want to punch your best mate when you’re talking about the match afterwards!!!
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
I despise the man, seen him around town on occasions and he is an arrogant little sod.
Injury prone,
got Bobby Robson the sack,
bad influence on younger players,
I’ve never seen him tackle,
can’t shoot,
only runs in one direction,
goes missing,
doesn’t score enough,
doesn’t prevent goals like a Butt or Keane can,
in past few years he has been in press for -
roasting in London hotelm
porno in Aiya Napa,
crashing car into swing bridge,
among many other booze fuelled antics.
The lad is a disgrace to football and should be kicked out the club, the fact that Sven and McClaren picked him baffles me.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Ben Letby, you are a mistaken. I didn’t rate Robert Lee at all.
I gave Dyer 12 out of 30.
I gave gerrard 27 out of 30 or 37 out of 40 if you include work rate. The first set of marks were for Dyer.
Plus, all the people on here who say that he is creative, has an eye for a pass etc etc. Can you back that up?
7 years he’s been here. Achieved absolutely nothing. When Nicky Butt had a go at certain players last season, it was Dyer, Bramble and N’Zogbia that were the biggest culprits. Given said exactly the same thing.
More importantly though, does Dyer EVEN WANT TO BE HERE? He seems to be desperate to leave.
Big Sam has even said as much.
Finally, Dyer says he is a CM. Do you guys honestly think that he is good enough to play for a top side in that role? Would he get a game for any of the top 5 teams at all never mind in CM?
People say he plays for England - HA! So does Jenas and look at the stick he gets. So does Phil Neville!
There would have to massive problems for Dyer to get a game for England from the start. He is not 21 years old with a career ahead of him. He should be at his best or even beyond that. He has achieved NOTHING!!!
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Dyer as an attacking player is as good as you’re going to get in this country on his day, if Sam can’t get the best out of him then I doubt anyone can.
Rob Lee is the probably the most underrated player I’ve ever known, if he’d played for Man U or someone he wouldn’t be, and for my money better than Gerrard.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
Dan,
It was a joke.
Apart from the football bits.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
A little unfair in my opinion Palmer!
I’m pretty sure you don’t know the guy so you are just going on his public perception. Stop being so personal.
Plus, If i was offered 3.64million a year i would snap there hands off…but thats not dyers fault- SOMEBODY obviously thought he was worth it, so well done Keiron!!
like i said before - i think this season should be make or break for him.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 8:57 pm
the trouble with dyer is that he disappears for long periods during a game and during those times obviously we are then only playing with ten men.not to be recommended in the premiership.if sam can overcome this then possibly he can be decent but I doubt it.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 8:12 pm
Can’t pass more than 5yds.
Can’t shoot from further than 5yds.
Still injury prone - no matter what, 190 apps in over 7yrs????.
Overpaid.
Worky ticket.
Ugly.
Lost without Nobby.
Moody.
Likes WWF wrestling.
Drives a Hummer(with flashy rimms).
Helped to get Bob the sack.
Helped in creating unrest in the dressing room.
Arrogant.
Get rid, take the 3.64million a year he gets paid and give it to someone who gives a shit.Someone who won’t be pissed in Jesmond 12hrs before a game. Someone who doesn’t crash their Ferrari into the swing bridge.
Someone worthy of wearing the shirt.
That’s what i think for what it’s worth.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Fact is the squad is stupidly small & if we let him go it just adds more problems ahving to buy more players..
Give him one more season to prove himself if he doesnt perform get rid of him.
Is anyone else worried by the fact wev made no new signings i wud say we need at least 8 - 10 more signings to even say we have a decent size squad, the backline is worrying thin and although am not one of panic buys i think ther needs to be abit more ergancy about newcastle.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
I cannot stand Kieron Dyer and feel that he symbolises everything that is wrong with the modern day footballer.
He is lazy (please study him during games and you’ll see)and vastly overpaid.
Can’t make a medium / long pass.
Drifts out of position because HE wants to.
Can’t shoot.
Has shown minimal improvement over the last 8 years.
Injury prone.
HOWEVER, whilst in an ideal world I would love to see him kicked out of the door now, the reality is we have a dangerously small squad. We did last season and it aint got any bigger! BSA will be concentrating on signing defenders (and rightly so), so couple that with Barton’s injury, then I say we need to hang on to him. Dyer, despite my dislike of him, can be a wonderful footballer on his day…only problem is he can’t be arsed to have ‘his day’ too often. Lets hope BSA can improve him.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Getting rid of Dyer will leave us even shorter than we already are,atleast keep him until January then cash in
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 11:16 am
i do worry about football fans sometimes. Dyer is a top draw player, when fit and on form dyer is what Newcastle and ENGLAND need. He is a midfielder who can carry the ball the whole length of the pitch take on player create something from nothing. I think he is worthy to play in the mighty chelski team. That 4-3-3 attacking winger could be his ideal position and for piss sake he is better that shaun WP, scores more goals than Duff (we raved about him when he came). There aint many permiership teams that have better players than dyer in his position. Lampard,Fabregas,Scholes,Ronaldo and a maybee a couple more. Spurs want him Why?? He will improve there team. He is better that jenas/zakora,lennon,malbranque and thet are looking for a top 4 finish. If we lose Dyer it will be a great loss and a sad day for NUFC.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 11:05 am
Come on
Keep Dyer and buy Deco
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 10:04 am
“at what stage did I say Rob Lee was better than Gerrard?”
Let me look…ah yes…in the part where you gave Rob Lee higher ratings out of 10 than you gave Steven Gerrard.
Maybe we’d all vote Rob Lee over Dyer too, but unfortunately he’s 41 and you can’t get players like him for 700k anymore.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:33 am
For fuck’s sake!!!
All you lot slating Dyer need to have a word with yourselves cause you seriously have never played football in your lives! Dyer brings pace, creativity, energy and an eye for a pass - something our entire squad couldn’t produce last season! Dyer’s injuries over the years have been horrific to say the least but let’s not forget he has been an England International under every England manager since his debut - where on Earth are you gonna be able to replace that kind of player at the moment?? Do you think Martin Jol wants Dyer to destroy his ambitions to get Spurs in the top 4? No, he wants him to help get them there cause he knows a good player when he sees one!
Dyer is an asset when fit - simple as. All those who want Newcastle to move forward need to get off their pre-conceived high horses and give the lad a bit of support!
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:29 am
I’d say give him one more season, his injury problems seem to finally be behind him and BSA has a history of getting the best out of players that seem to be underperforming against their potential. Even when Dyer is not having one of his “World Class” games he still covers more ground without the ball than the vast majority of other players on the field.
He’s got 2 years left on his contract, even if he has an average season this year we’d still be able to get £4m or so for him next summer.
But whatever the outcome of this and every other issue that is coming out of the club at present lets make sure that by Kick-off at the Reebok we’re all behind the lads.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:26 am
Ben Letby - Can you read? At what stage did I say Rob Lee was better than Gerrard? In an NUFC shirt, I compare Dyer to Lee. Lee was far better. Then, I said that Dyer wanted to play CM for England so compared him to Gerrard. I’d give Dyer 18/40. I’d give Gerrard 37/40.
My point is that Dyer thinks he is way better than he actually is.
Ask anyone on here who was the best. Rob Lee or Dyer?
I vote Rob Lee by a massive margin. Wasn’t on silly wages, was bought for 700,000k and LOVED the club.
That’s all me and many other fans want. Players who are prepared to give their all on a matchday. I’ve never boo’d in my life and i support the lads ardently. I’m not even too bothered if they get into trouble off the field (everyone does sometimes) as long as they learn and do their best for the club that more than looks after them.
Does Dyer honestly want to be here? The honest people would say no. With that in mind, he’s got to go surely?
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 9:23 am
I would be very sad to see dyer leave. I think he has been one of our strongest players in the past, up and down, 8 years. The midfield quartet of robert, speed, dyer and solano was our best since KK and he played a big part in getting us into a champions league spot twice. He also scored a few crackers in an injury ravaged season last year. When he performs he is not only our best player but changes the tempo and style of play throughout the whole team. He should be given his chance to link up with owen this season as he is still the best at getting to the dead ball line and cutting the ball back to the near post- something which owen thrives on.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 1:40 am
“flock round players like Dyer and KLUIVERT”
Sorry but, f*** me you’ve got it very wrong.
Sent in on: July 24th, 2007 at 12:00 am
The simple fact is that right at this moment we don’t have the squad depth to allow a player of his quality to leave, a fact made even more obvious now that Barton wil be absent for the opening of the season. Now that its clear that Kieron’s injury worries are behind him and to be fair he was one of our better performers last season (admittedly this may not be saying much) I think getting shot of him at this stage would be an unbelievably rediculous thing to do and i don’t see how we could possibly benefit from it especially looking at our situation as it stands. Dyer is not a one dimentional sprinter and anyone who has seen him playing with confidence would tell you he’s a serious threat and has shown his depth with his finishing and how devastating he can be when hes allowed even a bit of pace. It’s also easy for many to forget that he did bag 7 goals last season and without this kind of input (very few goals did come from the midfield last season) things would have ended significantly worse for us and now that we finally have the backroom staff a huge club like ours deserves that we haven’t seen since Robson I personally have no doubt that assuming he can remain fit he will finally have a season we knew all along he was capable of……
On a sidenote i don’t know how supporters can chastise Dyer about his lack of passing abiblity etc when we have Nicky Butt swanning about in the first team, and this guy couldnt hit a cow’s backside with a banjo, doing nothing all game other than running around fouling people…someone i wonder if anyone actually watches us play at all..
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 pm
I know I’ve been on here a few times tonight but this makes my blood boil. He’s been paid huge wages and very rarely delivered. The top 4 aren’t after him, West Ham, Man City, lower table/middle clubs desperate to get into the top 4 are (yes we are as well but he’s had more than enough chances, give £80 grand a week to someone else). I can’t understand why people are so ready to accept mediocrity with the odd good game a few times a season (ok pedants that should be three times). I love NUFC, but your attitude and Ben’s and phil’s reminds me of the bloke who went round the Irish club after Man U had hammered us 6-2 smiling doing thumbs up saying “Howay man we’re Geordies nowt gets us down”. My p**s was boiling I was furious, I wanted to win more than anything and we have t**ts like this revelling in their misery and martyrdom and this attitude is what has kept useless boards and players in the comfort zone over the decades. You people would flock round players like Dyer and Kluivert telling them they’re great if you met them in a club (Yes Kliuvert was great a decade before he played for us), oh I can’t go on aymore, you’re all morons, but hey he can run fast and had a good game against Hartlepool, Southampton in the cup years ago, Spurs when we hammered them years ago, Arsenal last season but that was about it for the season, he lapsed back into the comfort zone after that, “hey i scored one goal against Arsenal, I’m just as good as Henry, i’m a big name I can take it easy now!” And reading between the lines Sam wouldn’t be sad to let him go. But I think we’ll be stuck with him as other clubs won’t want to pay his wages or insurance. Yeah, yeah he’s over his fitness worries now if only he can add goal-scoring to his game, blah, blah, etc Copyright Anal Oliver The Evening Chronic 2007
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Clive Phil and Joe have said it all.
Overpayed
Overhyped
Can’t tackle
Can’t finish
Mickey taker
Only second to Luque for sicknotes
Get him out of here.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Alex your argument for Dyer consists of saying, he doesn’t score enough goals and his value has halved and he’d be great in a midfield that compensated for his inadequacies, great logic.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pm
I’m going to stick up for Dyer here.
When he’s fit, he’s awesome. When he’s ok “Off pitch” he’s awesome.
Big Sam with his methods he’s bringing in can surely fix both of these aspects of Kieron.
KEEP HIM. Big Sam can turn him into the player he’s threatening he can be. To sell him would be foolish.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 11:19 pm
I say one more season for him…he looks like he is over his fitness troubles now so, no excuses.
see how he does this season then sell or keep him accordingly.
On his day, he is one of our biggest threats, let’s remember this. If he can’t do it consistently this season, get shot.
Dan
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Who are these people rating Dyer? My first choice midfield would be
N’Zogbia Butt Barton Milner
And then
N’Zogbia Emre Butt Milner
Duff Butt Geremi Milner
Milner Butt Geremi Solano
When fit all of those players offer more, that makes Dyer 9th choice in midfield. And before you jump on my back about Duff, yes didn’t do much, but did have injuries and towards the end of the season he did show signs of getting back to form before getting injured at Blackburn and if he shows the same level of performance over 8 years Dyer has, I won’t be here in 2015 defending him.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 11:07 pm
I agree he hasn’t scored enough goals but he is a player of exceptional quality, and if we play hime in the right way behind the strikers he can be devastating. His runs were amazing against Hartlepool this week, and his through balls lead to goals. £4m is not enough, he was worth probably 10-20m a while ago, but I would still value him at £8-9m. As to his range of passing and vision not being good enough. A midfield is all about balance, and a fast dribbling player fits well next to a long passing shooting player like a Gerrard (or Barton in our case).
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Joe that’s just ridiculous.
1) Rating Rob Lee more highly than Steven Gerrard.
2) Comparing Rob Lee to Steven Gerrard. Just out of interest - Kieron Dyer has more England caps than Rob Lee. However Steven Gerrard is much better than both of them.
3) Comparing Rob Lee and Steven Gerrard to Kieron Dyer - they are all completely different players with completely different uses.
4) We won’t attract players of Steven Gerrard’s level for a long time yet - thats why we’ve got Kieron Dyer and not Steven Gerrard.
5) Dyer isn’t a CM, he is an AM - playing in between the midfield and the striker. Just like Sibierski last season - now there’s a crap player.
6) If you want to compare these players:
Dyer - £80k per week
Gerrard - £120k per week - because he is the better player.
7) I’d say Kieron Dyer’s work rate has been just as high as most of his other teammates over the last few seasons. Allardyce has come to sort all that out.
And to anyone saying that they are fed up of Kieron Dyer’s unrealised potential - wake up - he’s reached his potential and it ain’t bad at all. 7 goals in 27 starts last season - almost 1 in 3 - not bad.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Dyer’s obvious qualities? Tell me something he brings the team apart from pace? Which he is losing drastically?
Having Kieron Dyer in our squad, will, and subsequently has, over the 8 years he has been here, tempted managers to put him upfront, and basically waste a position. For those number of games he has played, you could have played a striker that could head, shot, create things for others, make sensible runs, hold a player off, hold up the ball etc.
Fore all the games he has been played in midfield we could have fielded a player that could tackle, pass, cross, keep possession, dribble etc. All f these quality’s Dyer lacks. He is over payed, over rated and I say * million for him would be stupidity on the part of any club willing to offer, if this is indeed the figure we could get for him.
I do agree, why sell a player we have not covered for, but I think in Barton, Emre, N’Zogbia, Butt, Solano and Geremi (who even though has not had much premiership experience in that position definately has the class) can all play centre midfield and cope well. We have ample strikers, and my guess is SA would have played him in a front 3, and so midfield would not even be a problem….I’d prefer Luque to start up top than Dyer.
Let him go
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Phil I can only assume you are 0ne of Dyer’s mates who on the Evening Chronic. You talk about all the managers who rated Dyer, well Bobby rated him, gave him loads of chances and how did he repay him? Standing doing a teapot impression on the line as Barcelona scored, came on as a sulky sub and played a big part in getting him the sack, if he’d been bothered to track back we’d have won against Boro, but oh no that was beneath him, Sir Bobby had disrespected him making him, Kieron Dyer one of the world’s greatest players a sub and then asking him to demean himself by being expected to tackle. And Dyer is an Ipswich lad so Bobby should be a god to him. Yes, Keegan, Sven and McClaren have had stellar succes s with England picking Dyer the first choice England midfielder in the squad. He can run fast thats why desperate England managers put him in the squad in the vain hope he can rescue them at the end of yet another crap peformance (oh no sorry Dyer was amazing against Luxembourg years ago). And you talk about his football ability, he can run fast, he’s got a good engine, that doesn’t make him a good footballer that makes him good at 800m or a marathon. And as for calling us all idiots coz we’re not mangers, are you saying you know nothing about football coz you’ve never been a pro? If thats the case your post means nowt! Unless of course you are Phil Scolari, in which case I apologise, but I don’t hink you are coz he wouldn’t put up with the little waster! I’ve been a manager or played at the top level, but to quote someone else, “I may not be a gynoclologist but I know a c**t when I see one!”
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 10:39 pm
Dyer has obviously had his problems, you’d have to have your head buried in the sand for the past five years not to realise this but I too feel we should keep him. The fact is Allardyce is clearly struggling in the transfer market and he needs to focus on building our defence not finding a replacement for Dyer in midfield.
If Dyer has indeed overcome his injury problems (I’m not entirely convinced) he can be a great player for us. Yes he is overpaid and can come across as having the wrong attitude but (as has been mentioned) we can hardly complain after signing and accepting Barton. When Dyer plays well he is brilliant to watch and getting rid of him now makes little sense.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 10:28 pm
Phil - name the games in which Dyer has stood out in his time at NUFC.
For his position, (he claims he’s a CM) i’m gonna compare him to the like of Rob Lee, a determined, goalscoring midfielder.
rate his passing out of 10
rate his shooting/finishing out of 10
rate his tackling out of 10
They are the central ingredients of a top class CM, not having a bit of pace.
I’d give him 5 for passing (and that’s generous)
I’d go with 4 for shooting and finishing
I’d go for 3 for tackling.
12 out of 30. You can mark him on worjrate aswell if you want.
Dyer wants to play for England. That’s Gerrards position. I rate him as follows:-
Passing - 9
Shooting - 9
Tackling - 9
Work rate - 10.
Now that’s a decent Central Midfielder. Are we gonna put up with him when we want to get into the top 6?
I’ll wait to be shot down!!!
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Have to agree with Clive who has put my thoughts into words perfectly. How long can a player have to realise his potential? Ronaldinho is the same age and people are saying he’s past his best! That’s the best player in the world! Dyer isn’t even the best player in the nightclub he frequents quite often!
He acts like he’s got the weight of the world on his shoulders, been wronged by the area and the club. Wrong Kieren. You’ve taken the piss out of this club for years. £70k a week for lying on your arse and then showing no desire whatsoever.
Is it any surprise that as soon as Big Sam starts tracking how much graft a player puts in during a game, Dyer can’t wait to get out of the door?
£5 million? FFS said he would carry Owen to Liverpool, well I would kick Dyer to London - the useless get.
p.s. I’d replace him though. We are thin on the ground. I hope that Ashley isn’t refusing money to Big Sam and setting him up for a fall in order to get his own man in. He needs £30 million to put the squad in a fantastic position. 5 good players required, 4 of which should be defenders.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Loosing Dyer would be a massive blow for us. Sure he’s been prone to injuries but that looks like it might be a thing of the past. When he is fully fit he is one of the best attacking midfielders in the country.
Keep Kieron, he’s gonna shine this season (hopefully not for anybody else than us)
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 10:09 pm
It just makes me laugh all these people on here talking about footballing brains, limited vision and passing, he can run fast and that’s it. Is that the level of the average toon supporter! Maybe if you didn’t have 5 pints before the game you’d be able to spot a footballer. I don’t care what anybody says about Steve Mclaren (he’s not my favourite either), or Keegan or Sven or Sir Bobby, I think I’d give their opinion of a footballer a little more credo than yours and if he’s fit he’s in their ENGLAND squad every time. How much would it cost us to replace that?
Ok, you can dislike him cause of his attitude and his bling and his perceived lack of commitment to the cause but don’t make nonsense statemnents about his football ability cause it’s just…. well it’s just complete nonsense!
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 10:06 pm
He can get better under Big Sam, keep him we have other priorities- what can you buy with £4 million??
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:51 pm
I agree that replacing Carr and Babyararo and signing another centre back should be Newcastle’s priority but I think Dyer has never come close to fulfilling his potential and he’s now 28. He doesn’t score anywhere near enough goals when he plays in his preferred position, his positional sense when playing out wide is awful and his attitude when Roeder named him captain was a disgrace. I hope he is over his injury problems and if anyone can keep him fit then its Allardyce, but if we can attract either Gudjohnson or Deco and we received a decent bid for Dyer then I’d sell him.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:38 pm
I would like to see what Big Sam can do with Dyer, if he fails to get some consistency and goals, then sell him for a fortune.
Just a thought:
This whole story was ‘broken’ in the Chronicle, by guess who…..?
Alan Oliver( Wide of the Mark - No. 2?)
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Ridiculous Dyer is the most overated player in the country and I can only assume you’ve written this article to increase site traffic. Dyer can run fast and that’s it, he’s not a goal scorer, he hasn’t got a great football brain, his passing is limited mostly a couple of feet sideways. Dyer has a couple of good games a season and that’s it, I can remember every single great game he’s had in 8 years cause there’s not that many of them. And you write “When on form” which is the crux of the problem cause that isn’t very often.
Dyer is the epitome of the type of premiership footballer we all hate, Blingy, egotistical, talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk (remember when he did Ferguson’s team talk for him, saying he wanted Scholes England shirt just before they hammered us?). Dyer is the sort of player for who winning a cup wouldn’t be the highest honour he could imagine, but getting invited to P Diddy’s party would be. Look at his mates Ferdinand and Lampard, all those years ago they had that infamous holiday in Aiya Napa, those two have moved on and progressed and left Dyer standing, They learned from their mistakes and are first choice for club and country.
But as for little Kieron, groundhog day, he hasn’t improved as a player at all in 8 years, in fact people still talk about him if he’s still a young kid full of potential. Kieron Dyer he’s got a great future behind him. If West Ham are stupid enough to give us money for him and pay his astronomical wages (which we Do pay for) then bite their fingers off I say, bye bye Kieron you won’t be missed. Anyway he’d love it it London he could go to Chinawhites and hang out with “celebrities” like Jodie Marsh and female ex big brother contestants every night, he’ll be in his element.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Forget Dyer, I personally hope he stays, but let’s concentrate on getting in some defenders. It seems that this season, if we’re not careful will end up like all the others a disaster!!! Where is all the money we supposedly have to spend ??? Other teams are getting ahead of us and we will if not careful end up with very little. Christ our squad was too small last season and after letting 6 or 7 players leave and only signing 4, well it doesn’t take a genius to figure out what will happen when the injuries start happening…
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Here’s a better winger on half his wages - James Milner!
Dyers a overhyped and over paid player that is still living at the toon based on his 1st season, the only decent (and injury free) season he had here!
If we could get anywhere near 5million from him then get rid as if you can get someone like ljundberg for 2million then surely there must be some proven rh sided or attacking midfielder for the same money we will let dyer go for.
I like the idea of dyer for lennon, or even try blackburns bentley but it may be one position that we could do without and pay 2class defenders wages with what dyer get paid in one
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:22 pm
If his injuries are behind him, which is doubtful as he had shin splints(can flare up at any time). I personally think he is a quality player and we would not be able to buy anything similar for what we would receive for him.
On his day he is world class, so let’s give him his favoured position and if he is still hitty missy by January off load him then.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:17 pm
I’m not a Dyer fan it has to be said. I think he’s a piss taker and is in my opinion a natural right winger, as he can run and beat people.But unfortunately he can’t see it. He’s not too bad playing behind a striker up top either. However have to disagree he’s decent in the middle of the park, as he has very limited vision/passing and tackling ability , he doesn’t play to his strengths (running at/past players) and not a great footballing brain either.
Selling him without a very good quality replacement would be a very brave/foolish decision though at the moment, as wih Barton etc out we are struggling for fit decent players. West Ham have got to be favourites but i’d try and swap him with someone of quality i.e. Lennon (unlikely but worth a shot)
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Well I agree with you on the wages fact but have this sneaky suspicion he is going to flourish with Allardyce in charge.
Plus if he leaves now might send the wrong message as most players who have left have been pushed out (minus S Parker). I say give him one more year.
Who do you reckon will make captain start of season.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:08 pm
“too many better players availible for half his wages”
Who?
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Yeah i say keep him. Yes he has underachieved and yes he has had his fair share of problems but he’s the kind of player that needs an arm around him from time to time just to say come on kid you played well,if we gave him the support we sometimes heaped on some of our not so deserving superstars we could still see the best from this England midfield dynamo(i got a little carried away) Keep Dyer and buy a few defenders,who knows the Toon Army might suprise a few people again this season,come on Sam get your finger out and show us these legendary persuasive powers i keep hearing about.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Not convinced of your arguement
Too many burnt bridges, too many injuries, too inconsistent, too well paid, too many better players availible for half his wages.
He is an above average premiership player on top class premiership wages. We do not get value for money.
Thanks for the times you did put the effort in, unfortunately they were too far and few between!
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 9:01 pm
Be a shame to lose someone as versatile as Dyer. He seems to have improved his fitness and has the passion to play for Newcastle, possibly even lead the team as I am sure he regrets throwing away the arm band during the Robson era.
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 8:58 pm
Wow, fucking finally someone admits that this man is simply a good footballer! He could play an essential role in our team for years to come, BUT if he sorts out his off-field problems and hopefully gets rid of all the injuries. I point out that his place in the England squad is no coincidence, for fuck’s sake, Newcastle fans, support Newcastle players instead of throwing shit at them…
Sent in on: July 23rd, 2007 at 8:37 pm