Allardyce Talk In: A Summary
By Tom Lynch On Tue 31 Jul 2007 |
With recent newspaper reports over the last few days, hinting at some degree of discord between Sam Allardyce and the new regime over a lack of transfer funds, tonight’s Talk-In was going to be interesting, if a little cynical that any difficult questions would be omitted, and perhaps they were, for there was no mention of Sam’s relationship with owner Mike Ashley, or new chairman, Chris Mort. However, despite this, it proved to be quite interesting, as Allardyce shared some of his thoughts on his vision for the club.
He started by saying that he had outstayed his welcome and Bolton, and that he “must have been mad†to turn down managing Newcastle, when the job was offered to him three years ago.
Turning to the topic of the backroom staff, Allardyce revealed that he intends to build a team of 18 to 20 people in various positions to work with the first team squad. Ideally, he’d like his backroom team to be people who have been rejected as youngsters or who have had their careers ended through injury, and have then gone to University to study Sports Science or Sports Psychology. He feels that people that have done this have a ‘football mentality’ and can understand what it is to be a footballer.
He commented that missing out on Europe this season may work in United’s favour. It would allow more time between games to implement the new training methods and resolve the injury problems. He has been speaking to a number of players who feel that they have been rushed back from injuries in the past. Allardyce thinks that it is no good rushing a player back who is only 80 or 90 per cent, as they are not fully fit and will simply break down again, thereby worsening the club’s injury problems. Players must be allowed to make full recoveries before taking part in games again.
Allardyce also revealed that he hasn’t made a final decision on who is to captain Newcastle this season, and that it might even be a player he is yet to sign – he is still hoping to bring in three or four new faces before the season starts. When asked if reports in tonight’s Evening Chronicle were true, that he is looking to sell Obafemi Martins in order to raise funds for new signings, he responded with a firm and confident ‘no’. No names of new signings were mentioned, but he is looking to bring in a left back. He also said that the squad was in need of ‘big defenders’ to play against big opposition players, and that they are also needed to defend against set pieces, as many games are won or lost on a free kick or a corner. Allardyce cited, the friendly match with Carlisle as an example.
Newcastle, he said had played the better football and dominated the game, but went a goal down through a free kick, and therefore ended up with a draw when they had deserved a win. Allardyce wants to instill the new training methods into the players this season, so that when new players join the club, it is not just him and his coaching staff who are telling them what to do, and that the players are also showing and helping them as well. That way everyone is in it together, fighting for each other.
Allardyce revealed that he wants to make the Academy one of the best in the country alongside the likes of Manchester United and West Ham – pointing out that five of the current England team are products of West Ham’s youth setup. Money can buy success, he said, but only so far, and that while you need to buy players in, you also need to produce good young players, who can step up and are capable of making the grade in the first team.
Of Newcastle’s current crop of young players he is impressed with Andy Carroll, who he feels is a ‘dying breed’ of old fashioned big centre forwards. He said that he has had at least twelve clubs on the phone enquring about taking Carroll on loan, but said that he isn’t going anywhere at the moment, but that he may perhaps send him on loan for some first team football for six months or so at some point.
Tactics-wise, Allardyce said that he prefers to use 4-3-3 over 4-4-2, as he feels it allows more players to both defend (5 rather than 4) and attack (3 rather than 2). However, tactics have to be altered according to the opposition. He feels that while Newcastle has good players, Manchester United’s players are better, and therefore it wouldn’t make sense to play the way they do against them, as they will win. What you have to do, is play another way, and try to confuse them.
Allardyce cited his time at Bolton. Over the last ten games in which Bolton played Arsenal, they won five, drew three and lost only two. Despite Arsenal having better players, Bolton played a system which upset Arsenal, and “kicked the shit out of themâ€.
When asked about how he gets perceived ‘bad boys’ to play for him, Allardyce revealed that you have to find out what went wrong at their previous club, that he talks to the player in question and finds out what he can do for that player to help him and make him feel wanted. On a similar subject, discussing his management technique he said that he uses different techniques for different players. You have to ‘bollock’ some players, because that’s what they respond to best, but that doing the same to another player might make him completely lose his confidence, and so you have to use another tactic to get the best out of them. He said that something he has learnt is that “you can’t go fighting people.†He revealed that as a young manager he wanted “to fight everyone†but it doesn’t work (something we know only too well from the Souness era).
On the question of what he would change about Football, he feels that the offside law needs to be looked at. He doesn’t know what it is anymore, nor do the players, the referees or linesmen. It is inconsistent, FIFA and UEFA need to resolve this and clearly define the law.
Allardyce was also asked what motivates him, to which he answered that he wanted to put something back. He had achieved his childhood dream of being a professional footballer, and then having retired, he felt a ‘hole’ which could only be replaced by either managing or coaching – besides “I know bugger all about anything elseâ€.

We may have no European football. But neither do Manchester City and they don’t seem to be doing a bad job of buying quality players.
The same issues as us but they seem happy to “want to go” there
Sent in on: August 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Out come the daggers for Ashley already? When will the Geordie faithful ever learn? Big Sam clearly states what the problem is - people don’t want to come. We’ve got no European football and when you try and go for class players, they know they have European football knocking on their door and us knocking on their door - who are they going to choose?
As far as the TV money not being spent, I trust that it is being spent on things more important for long-term stability than buying players at 15m. I have a funny feeling (and have heard rumblings for quite some time about it) that our beloved club is in more debt than we’ve been led to believe. Ashley isn’t stupid, and he knows how to make money. You have to pay off debts so we’re not in the position of the “top 4″ with massive ammounts of debt. If the don’t make Europe for a season or two they will flounder. They are banking on their future wins and that’s a game they’ll eventually loose.
We’re not some “toy” that Ashley has bought to throw around a rag-doll. He’s in this to make money and I trust (due to past ventures he’s been involved with) that he knows how and what he needs to do to succeed in that.
Sent in on: August 2nd, 2007 at 3:23 am
Interesting - but good to BSA being postive - as for the transfer funds situ maybe as Ashley did not do any due dilligence when he outflanked Freddy is now taking stock - the strategic review before deciding the next move - a sound business practice however given the squad situ - especially in defence - now that Dyers going (hopefully) perhaps some funds can be released to get some guys in to cover - (it maybe Janusry before Ashley gives Sam some serious Lucre to spend after he knows what mess the club was in)
Patience it will take 2-3 years to get back to where we were in 2001/02 & 2002/03 but get back we will!!
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Just to pick up on what “Martin N” has said - Ashley is now beginning to worry me. Greatly worry me. The TV money hasn’t been passed onto Sam to spend, and in reality Ashley hasn’t given Sam ANY money to spend as its just the Parker proceeds.
Just to put it into perspective - Fulham have spent about twice as much as us.
Mr Ashley - whats going on?!?!??!?
Unless this squad is added to we are in serious trouble.
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 11:19 am
Tom - great report - sounds like Sam is still very upbeat.
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 8:18 am
I think BSA has been very impressive so far. He talks the talk and appears to walk the walk. I think given time, money and players we are heading for good times.
My big fear is that Ashley is not the saviour we first thought he was. Are Newcastle just a new toy that he’s bought but now doesn’t know what to do with it. He hasn’t even released the new TV money that every Premiership club has/will receive. He needs to come out of hiding and let us know what’s really going on.
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 7:24 am
So far so very good for Big Sam. Now though is not the time for the board to be pissing about. Give him the money, let’s get the squad we need and support Big Sam with everything he does. In 3 years time when we are established in the top 5, it will all have been worth it.
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 6:56 am
I totaly agree but only if he is allowed to buy/obtain the players he wants and we need. He needs to be given funds and quick 3o days and counting Mr Mort
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 2:26 am
I definitely believe that Sam will create and maintain a stability that this club has lacked in my 45 yrs. of support, if he’s backed by Ashley.
Since his refusal to come last time he was asked, I’ve watched with interest, his tactics at Bolton, particularly with regard to his renowned ‘ long ball ‘ tactics, and I was honestly surprised at the good overall football I witnessed. He is highly underrated by many in the press, but what do they know? Long-suffering Geordie supporters are quite knowledgeable of the beautiful game and most are very favourable towards the Big Feller and his scientific approach to the modern game. Heck! we would have lost last season against Celtic and Juventus under nice Glen and his injuries. We just hope Mike Ashley is not playing games with us, or his mother had her heart broken by a Geordie many years ago. Rock-on Sam.
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 2:07 am
I was at the talk tonight it was obvious the questions were hand picked.
The thing that stood out not much but a bit is the times he mentioned giving the oppostion a good kicking.
Nothing was asked, does he have any money, is Ashley going to back him to the hilt in his quest for quality defenders, what is the truth about Keegan’s return whatever the postion. For me just another exercise to make Shearer’s Bar a few quid because I learned nothing new except that maybe Sam likes sides that can give a good kicking. I hope I’m wrong but I think I saved myself a few quid by not buying a season ticket (nearly did).
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 12:27 am
Having been very doubtful about the appointment of Allardyce as manager, I have been totally impressed with him, his attitude and skills since he took up the post.
In fact he could become our best manager in living memory: Some way to go yet, I know but things are looking very promising!
Sent in on: August 1st, 2007 at 12:17 am