Harper could of slept through the whole thing. Decent game. Not bad. not bad at all.

I was kind of half expecting Owen to put away Carroll’s ’shot’ across the goal mouth, I guess all the hype had addled with my brain slightly! Have to be happy with a point though.

thanks - we needed that, from a manchester utd fan.

Yea Newcastle VS Chelsea about to start soon come on boys!!!!

If Roeder has any balls(which he doesnt) he will make changes for the Chelsea game(which he wont). The team I would pick is
Given in goal
Nobby at rb
Edgar at lb
Taylor&Bramble cb (bramble for physical strengh)
Milner right mid
Luque left mid
Parker & Emre centre mid
Carol & Oba up top

What we will get is
Gooch at c/b
Fat,lazyarse Carr at l/b
Butt&Parker c/m
Zog on the left
Sib up top or dyer played out of position(again)

and we wil get a right tonking

Roedar is clueless and I wouldnt trust him to improve our squad in the summer

Besides I didn’t really mean the atmosphere in the ground but in the dressing room, in training etc.

Nick what can I say……..atmosphere? rarely is there a good atmosphere at sjp now, if you want atmosphere go to away games! As for your thoughts on our manager and a world brand……somebody please put Nick out of his misery he’s suffering from delusion. I certainly dont intend repeating myself about Roeder but is Nick the guy who said “we’ll bring in some really good players in the summer” gasp!

Nick you simply dont understand whats going on, you cant see where we are heading, head buried in the sand rings a bell.

gareth
new hartley mag
chairman

It really frightens me that Freddie will stick with Roeder, let him spend some millions in the summer before we have a terrible start to the season and GR gets sacked in November. Back to square one, with more millions wasted and more damage done. I have always liked GR as a bloke, but he is making that hard now. Just look at what he’s doing to our club - young players like N’Zogbia and Milner get treated appallingly, as does Luque. We will lose quality players who should be the future of our club because GR has no idea how to man-manage. Zero tactical nous and zero motivational skills. He has lost the dressing room (you can tell by the performances) and the confidence of the fans, and I don’t know why anybody would sign for him. ROEDER NEEDS TO GO NOW. Get in a strong charismatic manager who is respected, such as Hiddink, Van Gaal, Hitzfeld, Scolari etc. I woyld love to know what Freddie is thinking now…surely he can’t think this is the man to lead us forward? If he stays I honestly fear we will be relegated next season.

In response to Nick’s comment -

‘When we sign some really good players in the summer’

What makes you think Roeder has the managerial aptitude to bring in quality players in the summer? We’ll be without Europe, yet again.

In his defence, he bought both Duff and Martins in the summer. The latter has had a terrible season, nevertheless, I think any manager in the premiership would have paid £5 million pounds at the time. Martins didn’t have any other options, Portsmouth didn’t want to pay £10 million for his services and as far I’m aware, the Valencia link was wide of the mark.

I feel for Roeder, because Shepherd is the cancer of this club. He appointed the cheapest option and a manager with a poor track record. I can’t see Roeder bringing in any ‘really good players’ unless they’re shrewd Wenger-esque purchases. If he does, fair play, gaff.

why is it that when views of a change of manager are expressed it is classed as short sighted. I find it astounding that correspondents on here think it’s going to be different next season, wake up it’s going to be exactly the same, quote “when we sign some really good players in the summer” that one really made me laugh can you please tell me which really good player will want to sign for this shambles next season, who in their right minds would want to sign for a manager who is clueless, who plays 4-5-1 against portsmouth please i cant contain myself. Another one “he may not be the man for the job but lets give him till next season” noooooooooooooooooo he will take us down next season, he’s lost the dressing room and lost the fans, and youv actually said it he’s not the man for the job but let him carry on an amazing comment
So wake up, the majority of fans on here aren’t being negative they passionately care about the club watch reserve games travel away every week it’s my 42nd year of watching my team let’s not give this man another year quite frankly I’ve said it a million times on here no other club would have appointed him as manager he lost my respect when he said the fans will not pick the team, quite right Mr Roeder but I’ll tell you something we’d make a damn sight better job of it than you.
But on the horizon is our salvation Freddie you’ll be looking at 40 thou crowds next season fans are finally voting with their feet, they are not just talking about it they are doing it, to some of our correspondents on here the truth hurts but get real.

gareth
new hartley mags
chairman

The attitude of sack the manager when it gets tough is the reason why we have not won anything for decades.

If we dont show to managers that they will get time to build a squad then we will never attract top managers.

Roeder may not be the man for the job but lets give him next season and then if it is not looking good then at least when his contract runs out in the summer of 08 prospective managers will see that they will be given time to get it right.

We need to look ahead this short sightedness will ruin this club. As it has done since Robson.

We need to sack Roeder at the end of the season. Our largest fears are building with the Mackems getting some money and dominating the Championship with a rock solid renowned man of Roy Keane. people will sign for him as they did for Bryan Robson and Keegan. Here is what we offer a player. No European football, no trophy for 50 years, no management credentials, no reputation on coaching staff, no tactical know how from management. What we do offer is great stadium, fans, some decent players (Owen, Martins) and a whacking wage packet. With these ingredients we get mercanaries not winners and it comes full circle. We need Roeder out a big name manager with good credentials in.
Shepherd if you won’t leave, which we all wish you would, then please get rid of the manager before he attempts his “careful” buying in the market which results in nothing!! He’ll then whinge that its not his squad and we end up no further ahead!!

Agree with Chris G. I’d like to have seen Edgar given a chance to play alongside Taylor in central defence. The way he handled Ronaldo with Taylor giving him great cover really impressed me. It obviously impressed Ferguson too as he swapped him wings in the second half.

Lincoln its all about opinions, but I have to say you are sufferring from delusions mid table obscurity at best for us next season with this clown in charge the players have sussed him along with the majority of the fans, look at the polls………….I repeat no other prem team wud have employed Roeder as manager……the man is a joke tactically bereft who wud u rather sign for Roeder or Keane…………….we r a another Leeds Utd.

gareth
New Hartley Mag
chairman

———- Crouchie/Big man ——
——-Owen - Martins/Shola——
Zog ———————- Milner
————- Parker ————
New guy - Taylor - Edgar - New guy

There!

roeder please leave
i hate u
it’s a shame that u are the manager of nufc
i honestly think that i will even do better than u
so would u just leave us alone please?don’t come back to nufc

jake bernstone….are you the Rodent in Disguise?

ToonGirl, how many poster of Shay do you have pinned up in your room like?

Roeder is just like McClaren and these 30/40 yr old Brit managers. Teams are sent out to keep it tight, game plan not to lose. That is what is wrong fundamentally - add to that wrong formations (changing at half time still makes it a wrong decision), “names” back in when fit despite the “cover” lads playing well and no idea what subs are for (10/15 mins at the end to save a match ?!).

Look at his targets - Lardarse Viduka (3 good games a season, when fit), Kenny bloody Miller (every clubs reject), Zat Knight at one stage !!!, Anton “dedication” Ferdinand - yet prepared to offload Milner last summer. Great that he wants now 3 or 4 players in. However 3/4 weeks ago 3 players were being carried and had no future here, this weekend 4 players were being carried and will go. Add to that the obvious Bramble (1 of the first 3), Luque (couldn’t have been him as he never plays, O’Brien & Patterson (where have they gone), Bernard (who signed him ?) then the maths don’t add up. Hopefully the 3/4 to go are Carr, Babayaro, Moore, Onyewu (crap on the deck). Emre will probably go too, I like him when he is allowed to push forward.

Freddie has to look and realise this man has not got what it takes. The team needs basing around Given, Taylor (alongside a real centre back), Milner, N’Zogbia, Parker (if he could stay on his feet and shoot at goal-not punt it),Martins with someone good in the air (we all know that isn’t Shola). That is a fair start with squad players Solano, Butt (much improved but lacking in pace), Sibierski, Duff (if we can’t get a good price for him), Huntingdon & Ramage (if employed as centre backs and brought through), Carroll & Edgar to earn some games in cups and injury cover. Haven’t mentioned Owen as I believe his agent will have been instructed “I’m a celebrity get me out of here”.

One further note of caution - Sven would not rescue this mess with his talent (well hidden) but I imagine his rich foreign backers will impress Freddie - I mean they share the same fake Sheik!

if only we still had the 5th placed team under Robson:

Bellamy Shearer

Robert Speed Jenas Ambrose

Bernard Woodgate O’Brien Hughes

Given

We’d still be in the hunt for Euro glory, be safe in 5th place instead of this team who’s heading for mediocrity:

Martins Sibierski

Duff Emre Parker Milner

Babayaro Taylor Moore Solano

Given

its just not good enough
i do truly believe that we have the core to be a top 5 team:
shay
steven taylor (albeit with a good centre half playing next to him)
parker
owen.

even now we do have sum personnell around these guys:
dyer
oba
shola
milner
nobby

roeder HAS addressed the problem.. he HAS recognized we NEED defenders. i believe he is in the hunt for 2 CBs and a LB so at least this has been recognized

but goin forward is also a problem. we have NOT got a balance in CM. parker is a must in there for me because hes class. i know he has had criticism but i think it is totally unjustified for one of the most committed players the toon has ever seen. playing with him though, well thats a different matter. we need some height for a start, but also some creativity in there!!
kieron dyer fits the bill, CM is his best position, but i can just see a partnership of KD and parker gettin dominated in the air and the 2nd balls.

on the wings, i do bleive milner is the BUSINESS. he really has shown he is a class above. but he needs to be more productive. on the left, duff and zoggy have both failed to delvier, but they are kinda too good too sell..we have a dilemma on our hands, i just hope one proves their full potential next year.
we definitely do lack, from centre mid, a player lyk laurent robert, david ginola, who can shoot. i mean at the moment, if you look whose taking set pieces, its milner or solano or nothing…they are good dead ball players but not good enough for newcastle united

up front, oba martins IS overrated. i would be tempted to take £12 mill back for him now if we could. his strike rate i beleive is pretty poor and he does miss alot of sitters. in flashes lyk at white heart lane he is class, and flashes CAN win games, but the way he gives a ball away and cannot hold it up , hinders our all round play, puts us under the cosh as we cant keep possession and cancels out all the good flashes he can produce.

we need a mass clearout in my opinion including:
babayaro
carr
onyewu
bramble
emre
sibierski
zoggy

the performance was shambolic in first half, little better in the 2nd, but its not the point, were a disgrace, the manager is not up to standard if were honest, and yehhh something must b done

howay the ladz

I am dead set sick of these poor results against clubs which we should be dominating its becoming a joke. why do we play soo dodgy on the road? why is Roeder so defensive? why is our team so full of quality but we play like retards? i am sick of it and Roeder isnt going to answer these questions I want him out of NEwcastle. I also believe we need to keep Emre definantly he is pure class we could go miles with Emre, Owen, Martins, Duff and Luque in one team but Roeder is reluctant to play LUque so that will never happen and he has a massive love for Ameobi so He will definantely be in the team somewhere. The fist half against Portsmouth was just terible bu there were patches in the game when we looked like a team but why can’t we do that for 90 minutes. we have played 17 games on the roar this season and got 14 points from them and that is no way near good enough if we want to get back in the champions league cause that is where i believe we should be we need to do way better then that and we also need to win more then 7 games at home out of 17 what is that we should have won at least 15..16 even 13 home games would be good. Come on Freddy do something about it mate im sick of it what happened to NEwcastle United people used to fear us now teams look foward to playing us. Come on boys lets finish the season the way we should and win the last 4 games come on the toon. HOWAY THE LADS - NUFC 4 LIFE

Another poor result!!.What does Roeder need to do to get the sack?. He really is a second rate manager with no tactical nouse and his motivational skills must be none existant. Look at what some managers have done with players who, on paper, are nowhere near as good as what we have. Bolton,Everton,Pompy etc.

Its time for him to go otherwise we are in for another season of midtable mediocrity. As for his signings, Duff has been very poor, Gooch is no better than what we had and Oba, although he has qualities he needs 3 or 4 chances to score a goal and there is no way he can play as a lone striker plus I dont think he will be a good strike partner for owen as they are too similar

We need to act now to bring in a QUALITY manager, not another cheap option (souness,roeder) but a proven, world class manager with a sound record in the transfer market. I dont hold out much hope tho`

Meh, dissapointing ya, but I can’t wait till Chelsea that’ll really test our bottle like, hopefully, HOPEFULLY..Shay Given will be back for Chelsea. That’ll be a big plus and hopefully Owen will be back, like that would be out of this world like cause that’ll lift everyone, the team, fans, England. Even if he didn’t start the game, can you imagine the roar if he came on as a sub and if he scored and we won the stadium would shake?? So with a keeper that can hold his own at the back and a striker like that up front maybe we’ll beat them. That would cause a major upset on the top, we’ve been a pain in the ass to the top 3 or so clubs and I’d like to keep it that way and I’d like nothing more then to see a very depressed Mourinhio. Oh and just quickly..Please don’t ruin my fairytale.

Roeder deserves no credit. He is not a Premiership manager, he will be there next season and our problems will escalate. I spoke to an ex NUFC player outside my house today and he said everyone he has spoken to at the club feels the same. This idiot has to go !! Lets see what his fans say when we get turned over by the mackems next year and it is well on the cards !! God help us !!

Got back from the game late last night DISSAPOINTED.

After 15 minutes i could see the problem instantly which was we could’nt keep hold of the ball due to us just having OBA on his own up front. He can not hold the ball up and whenever we got the ball it was either played up to him from the defence in the air which Primus won everytime or our midfield ran out with it and panniced by playing it into OBA when he had about 3 players around him. We clearly needed LUQUE or CARROLL on up front with Martins from the word go. It was relentless and that is what happened the whole first half.

I will give credit to Roeder for seeing to this and making the change at half time which must have been one of the most effective substitutions for us this season. It changed the game CARROLL was excellent and i think we well outplayed Pompey in the second half. But when teams have players like Matt Taylor they can change the game and effectivly win it for you with one shot it was like when we had LAURENT ROBERT. If they hadnt scored at that time i think we would have got a draw minimum.

I will also praise LUQUE for his performance when he came on he clearly showed he has the skill and ability which some of our players where lacking E.G. DUFF. I have always been in favour of LUQUE and i think it would be a massive mistake to sell him at the end of the season especially as we will only get a few million for him.

im totaly suprised to see Newcastle go down to Porthsmouth.Too bad that Roeder dont want to give a chance to Luque,and i hope to see Owen returned in the action against Chealse.And i heard that Owen might go move to Manchester United,is that true?!?

Todays result was shocking we should have won against a team like Pompey. Roeder needs to be sacked and quickly. We need Keegan or Robson back vause they are the only managers who know how to make Newcaste a top 5 team. Roeder out and possibly get Shearer as manager.

Europe looks of the cards for next season then, not sure how the entries to intertotototototo cup work, probably the places under 7th. 12 points more to play for, chelsea at home next week will be a good game though, i suggest trying to enjoy our last few games.

I think united just didn’t deserve to win, they wern’t good enough - (Once again). Roeder can’t keep making excusses, altough it’s not all his fault. The players need to take responceability as well, Carr was shocking, Duff was rubish, Emre was average and he was the best player. I hate to say it but we might have done better with bramble.

Excellent result !!

i expected much worse tbh so 2-1 is a good result, time we ALL faced facts Newcastle are a 13-14th position team, and i dont think ther is one club in premiership who would want Roeder as their manager.

i aint seen match yet but tbh, am not going to wait around for it to come on MOTD so ill probs not bother, Newcastle to me is dead until we replace the totaly inept Roeder and get rid of freddy along with most of the whole squad who are purly heartless, ther all talk and no action.

When is someone going to stand up, admit failure and leave.

the overall plus point of the game was probly carroll from wot i heard he’s a gd player 4 his age like ta c more of this lad he sounds a gd player the overall game from our point of view we needed a gd start n we made a gd start n den they scored again defensive mistake shame it was taylor who cocked it up best defender we had on the field n from den they dominated us in the 1st half n in the second they came out fighting n den conceded a goal but could’t do anyting bout it n den we had a penalty scored it but could’t get the 2nd goal but ta sum up the whole game we prob diserved a point i suppose if anything but not gd enough need owen bck quick ta score the goals but out goes europe once again some things seriously rong some where club like us need ta be in europe n ta be not playin european footy ain’t gd roll on next season can only get better its got 2 but it’ll prob be same old sh1t as we keep seeing every season

Roedor should get fired from Newcastle. He has very poor ability to be manager. In real he couldn’t be manager from the first time. I don’t understand Newcastle must wait for play in champion league, before think to fire Roedor.

Was impressed by Andy Carroll, he had a part in all of our major moves.
Was also pleased to see Luque get a crack but actually do well and make an effort.

Shame we lost, our first half performance left lots to be desired and totally held us back from picking up a win.