Scream, Roeder.
By A.K. Dholakia On Wed 2 May 2007 |
The sunset barely crouched over the shoulder of the horizon, on our ambling approach to the Madejski for Monday night’s trip to Reading. Seated in the East Stand, the pitch looked luscious, the banter tickled both sets of fans just right and even the PA guy wasn’t without a certain affable levity.
This was Reading that Newcastle were taking on too, a side whose admirable attacking football this season would ensure a game peppered with goals and let the Premiership forget about the Boltons, the Chelseas and those other annoyingly successful percentage-players of the league who sacrificed the entertainment value that is inherent to the game, for results. With that said, the 15-year old Reading girl who claimed a half-time regional award for Reading has been more prolific than Newcastle this season – she did score 92 goals in 18 games, mind you. Nonetheless, Newcastle’s earlier 3-2 victory at SJP bode well for the game, especially with Owen back.
The pre-match warm-up seemed a particularly jolly affair, with the burly Stephen Carr’s spirits seemingly lifted by Roeder’s recent laudation of his performance against Chelsea. Everyone seemed fairly chirpy, with circles of players playing blind passes to one another rather impressively. Later in the evening however, young James Milner would be livid with Solano and the pair would continue their discussion up and down the touchline for quite some time, and though it was enamouring to see Taylor developing leadership skills, it was also quite crushing to see him having to repeatedly lecture the increasingly fatigued Carr, who, incidentally, had a decent pair of lungs requesting cover when the diffident and out-of-sorts Seol ran at him. On the subject, it is of my opinion that when you can’t beat De La Cruz for pace, you probably don’t belong at this level.
At this point, the clemency in the ground was all but gone, with one absolutely psychotic Royal a couple of seats behind me singing ‘Are you Sunderland in disguise…’ for a full five minutes. Solo. Every team has its share of idiot fans, and the same bloke also took to prefacing his numerable Bramble monikers with the word ‘black’. Yes. In this day, in this age. Kingsley the Lion lost his cool too, and was promptly dismissed at half-time. Oh boy.
It wasn’t all bad, and the Reading fans were good, even giving the returning Owen a generous round of applause. Personally, I couldn’t help but feel a twinge of sadness later though, when hardly anyone acknowledged old Shola’s return as Reading prepared to take a free-kick in a dangerous area. His return was heartening and though he seems infinitely bigger, even he could not tower over the ball to head one of our best chances anywhere but at the goalkeeper. That, incidentally, was a chance I nearly missed, and not because I was still genuinely disappointed at not winning free half-time pizza, but because I thought Owen was injured again. It was actually Emre’s posterior that was aloft in the air as he writhed in agony as it turned out.
The first half actually saw them look the most impressive, with Emre continuing get stick from the crowd on corners, and chants of “offside Owen†going up a couple of times from the home support. Owen’s pairing with Martins intimated at potential quite a few times in the first half, but this was over-powered by the eerie realisation that I found myself looking to a striker other than Martins to typify our attack in the shape of Owen. Roeder’s puzzling 4-3-1-2 formation also saw another striker cast, that being the ultimate passenger, the one and only Antoine Sibierski. He really didn’t do anything before he got injured. Zilch.
One of the highlights of the first-half was Martins contesting one of many high balls in midfield, and in this instance, he just did not come down. It seemed inconceivable that he could get so high, but he really did just keep rising. Where is he now, I wonder? Seriously though, forget Air Jordan, it’s the age of Air Martins.
Harper wasn’t quite as commanding in the air, with Carr riskily chesting a cross back to his hands. Harper seemed low on confidence generally, seemingly uncomfortable using his feet to control backpasses, with his kicking justifying this. He’s a good keeper, but he needs to pick himself up.
Nolberto had a tough time from the crowd after his jedi mind trick saw the referee give him a throw-in when he booted the ball into row Z completely unattended. It kind of fitted in with the pattern of the game being entertaining for all the wrong, non-footballing reasons though.
Looking at the slight and solitary figure of Roeder standing momentarily outside his dugout, he seemed a little lost. To his right, Coppell, donned in tracksuit and all, looked animated and enthused. Contrastingly, Roeder’s attempt to impose his presence on the pitch quite reminded me of Edvard Munch’s Scream, except almost impossibly tight-lipped, and with equally reticent folded arms. His sunken eyes appeared to be screaming though.
When a third substitution propagated by injury looked likely after Martins had fallen on his hand, my friend, a Reading supporter, remarked that, that was what the “useless†Sidwell had to look forward to when he moved north, a life of injuries and underachieving. Eep.

Marcoo$e,
I think I understand what your saying.
For the greater long term benefit of the club, if we get absolutely hammered, Glen will likely be sacked & the club can move forward. But if they win/draw or lose to an odd goal… we’ll be stuck with Roeder in charge till just after the transfer window closes, when he will be sacked & some poor sod will have to come in to try & pick up the pieces.
The Riddler,
I think that was just about the best reply I’ve ever read on here.
“Would any other premiership club employ Glen Roeder as their manager? No, not even Watford and they’ve already been relegated.”
Sums the situation right up!!!
Sent in on: May 3rd, 2007 at 10:47 pm
That’s a lot of finger crossing there Tom. I do take your point about throw away seasons, that’s why the club needs to act now to avoid the exact scenario you describe. As for the horrendous injury list don’t you find it somewhat ironic that some of our best performances came when the side virtually picked itself due to the sheer number of players out injured, Manure at home for example and we put in our worst performances when there was virtually a full squad to choose from minus Michael Owen and Shola of course, i.e. Sheff Utd at home. You say your bored of people whinging and moaning about the manager, believe me I don’t do it lightly. I support Newcastle United; I have done for over thirty years. In that time I have seen some real shite and backed some lets say pretty dubious management regimes. You ask what Glen Roeder is not good enough for; he’s not good enough to manage a mediocre squad of players in a mediocre league that’s what. You ask for patience and to give the man time but can we really afford to do that? What calibre of player do you think he’ll attract in the summer, with no European carrot to dangle? Without wishing to be too disingenuous, he isn’t exactly the most respected man in football is he? Yes we do pay well but it seems to me that money only attracts the mercenaries and we’ve had our fill of them.
Ask yourself this and answer honestly now, would any other premiership club employ Glen Roeder as their manager? No not even Watford and they’ve already been relegated.
I don’t kid myself that Newcastle United is a Big Club, big clubs win things from time to time. It’s not like I’m a glory seeker, let’s face it I wouldn’t follow the Toon if I was but is it too much to ask that we win something at least once in my lifetime, I’m not fussy the Carling Cup would do. Seriously though when you’re at the game on Saturday look around you everything is in place for this club to be absolutely massive, everything that is except the right people to make it happen.
Sent in on: May 3rd, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Marcoo$e, how can you say something like that about your own club?
Some supporter you are.
Fair enough, want rid of a manager, but how can you want Newcastle to get lashed at any point for whatever reason?
Really shows the state of some of our supporters at the minute.
Sent in on: May 3rd, 2007 at 7:28 pm
I CANT BELIEVE I AM SAYING THIS BUT I HOPE WE GET TROUNCED BY BLACKBURN THIS WEEKEND. I ALSO HOPE THAT NO SUPPORTERS STAY BEHIND FOR THE END OF SEASON LAP OF (DIS?)HONOUR, AND INSTEAD VACATE THE GROUND WITH 15 MINUTES TO GO TO SHOW THEIR DISGUST AT A PITIFUL SEASON AND TOTALLY SHAMBOLIC FOOTBALL CLUB.
Sent in on: May 3rd, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Tom W are you sure your not Glen himself, i understand what your saying about being patient and agree with you, but i have not seen any plus points this season to think theres going to be a big change next term, iam generally confused by his line ups and substitutions or lack of them until the 85th min when were getting beat. Sorry but he has to go.
Sent in on: May 3rd, 2007 at 4:37 pm
This season was a throw away season from Christmas, maybe even earlier, and it’s not because of Glen Roeder, it’s because of the unbelievable injury list we’ve had.
It’d be real easy to say, we’ve had another poor season, lets get rid of the manager, but then next seasons a throw away too, simply because we’ll have a new man with new ideas, wanting to build his own squad.
Glen Roeder is the manager of Newcastle United, FACT, i’m really bored of constantly hearing people whinging and moaning about the fact that he’s not good enough, not good enough for what? A team that hasn’t won anything in twice as long as I’ve been alive!
A lot of people supporting this club need to wake up and realise we’re in a position where we could become a big club but a big club right now, we’re not.
Next season Glen will have had a pre season with HIS squad, which i’m sure he’ll also be looking to strengthen, fingers crossed we’ll have a fit squad come August, fingers crossed we’ll have Michael Owen come August and then if we finish mid table next season the man will have no excuses. You can all carry on baying for his blood and this fan will join in, but if we go into next season demanding he be replaced we won’t do anything other then what we’ve done this season! Keep the faith.
Sent in on: May 3rd, 2007 at 2:29 pm
I agree it would be foolish to completely dispense with the services of Mr Roeder, as far as I’m concerned he has more than proved his worth in his work restructuring the academy. His talents obviously lie in youth development, the kids all seem to like and respect him, as proved by their performances whenever they have been called upon. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of the senior more experienced players who continually let him down. You would think 80K per week would be enough incentive to anybody but apparently not to the primadonnas at NUFC. This is where GR falls down he just doesn’t have the motivational skills or the tough streak required to get the best out his players. Whether or not Mr Roeder would agree to what in effect would be a demotion is open to conjecture but there is no room for sentiment where the future of NUFC is concerned.
I’m not really sure what the answer is. Obviously opinion on Allyrdice is divided, I agree that he has never really been tested but in his defence he always seemed to get the best out of the journeymen and mediocre players under his charge at Bolton. My personal opinion is that his belligerent style, frankness and dodgy dealings may not be too welcome on Tyneside and I have my doubts as to whether he could actually handle the pressure. Lets face it the bloke looks like a heart attack waiting to happen. One thing I am certain of however is we cannot continue as we are.
I’m not so naïve as to believe that a change of manager is the answer to all our woes, wholesale changes are required within the hierarchy of the club in order to root out the spongers, wasters and hanger-on’s. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like the pieman is going anywhere soon (unless of course somebody has the number of a reliable hitman) so the hiring of a competent chief exec and the implementation of a strategic management plan / structure is the minimum requirement if we are to move forward. The alternative is unthinkable.
Sent in on: May 3rd, 2007 at 12:51 pm
As in any business you have to assess each individuals skill sets and make best use of your their abilities. I totally agree that Roeder does not have what it takes to manage the arrogant over paid premier players. However that doesn’t mean we should chuck the baby out with the bath water. Glen has done a great job developing the youngsters at SJP and clearly has a great rapport with younger players. It would be a shame to see that talent going to waste. If pride would let it happen, GR should step down and go back to doing what his does best.I would also hate to see Big Sam come in and build another Bolton, yes they have done well but they still haven’t won anything and to be honest don’t look like doing so. Lets not destroy the potentail that has been built up at SJP. I think everyone could see that the youngsters have a great desire to play for Newcastle and was it a coincidence that one of our best runs was when we had the youngsters playing? Keep the development policy in place but get in manager who can manage the high profile players.
Sent in on: May 3rd, 2007 at 2:52 am
Saw Gentleman Glen this evening on my way to the club shop to be stripped of yet another pound of flesh (I was taking my nine year old to buy the new replica kit).
He stood for ages signing autographs posing for pictures etc. What struck me the most about him was his pleasant, easy going demeanour; he really is a bloody nice bloke.
Unfortunately I believe that this side of his personality will also be his undoing. Wasn’t it Greenday who sang “Nice guys Finish last?” A statement more appropriate to professional football, than probably any other sport. I honestly believe that the man does not have what it takes to manage a premiership football club. He just doesn’t have that hard, nasty streak required when dealing with wasters like Kieron Dyer. Joe Harvey had it as did Brian Clough & Bill Shankly. Alex Ferguson has it and I suspect Arsene Wenger and the not so Special One, have it also. Unfortunately for us Glen Roeder doesn’t, it’s not his fault he just isn’t made that way. The ranting and raving the flying teacups it’s all completely alien to him. When Glen says that he’s read the riot act to his players I suspect that’s just what he does sits down and reads to them.
I more than anyone would love to see him succeed but I know deep down it’s not going to happen. Its time to move on Glen, I’m afraid.
Sent in on: May 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 pm
ROEDER OUT, ANYONE IN!!!
Sent in on: May 2nd, 2007 at 8:10 pm
I like this article. Seriously good stuff. It’s so unusual to see such a well written article about football.
Meanwhile, since I’m typing, let me also say, that of course, Roeder is useless and should be given the sack as soon as humanly possible.
Sent in on: May 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Roeder is a clown who belongs in the circus
Sent in on: May 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Seeing Roeder on the side lines always reminds me of seeing Sven when the England dream fell apart (again) against Brazil.
You have to wonder what sort of impact it has on the players when they look across for more inspiration/instruction & see the manager just sat there doing nowt & looking like he doesn’t give a monkeys.
He doesn’t have to be a jump up & down screamer (like Martin O’Neil), but surely some positive body language is only going to help?
Sent in on: May 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 pm