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Yet to see a thread on this over here, so going to do a copy and paste job on what I've posted so far on Toontastic about it. I've noticed in my absence there seems to be a lack of a topic on what promises to be a quality film, unlike the first one. So I'm going to have to educate yet again folks. 1st Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL1fCmIA_0o2nd Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G14pxzJHuwInterview With The Strause Brothers.https://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/15...910/story.jhtml"Basically you're following this one Predator — the star of this movie," Greg said of the hunter in pursuit. Added Colin, "We call him the Wolf internally because basically he's Harvey Keitel from 'Pulp Fiction.' He's the cleaner. He shows up and he's not there for the trophies. ... If anybody gets in his way, he'll just cut 'em in half."   Well there's obviously different bits of info so I shall have to narrow it down as I can. Well the exciting news first of all is the Predalien has been confirmed , or so AVP Galaxy says anyways. Apparently The Wolf is meant to be the dogs bollocks of Predator Assassins, as from what I remember the ones in both Predators and AVP are more younger versions of Predators doing their initiation rights so to speak, whereas The Wolf is what we would define as the finished article. I'm also hoping as well that there's no Human/Predator interaction on this one. The Predator shouldn't need to be interacting, especially The Wolf by the sounds of him. Although at the moment a lot of Alien fans are having a moan because The Wolf in the trailer picks two Aliens up by each arm and just destroys them. Another good thing about The Wolf is he's a return to the more slimline and agile build of Predator from 1 & 2 and not the more immobile version in AVP. If this is actually done right unlike the first one it could be something absolutely amazing, or so going by the trailer and the hints and rumours of the Green Band one anyways. I've never been so excited over a film in a long time, can everyone guess by now I'm some sort of massive Alien/Predator fan/geek?  |
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2007, 11:28:10 AM » |
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2007, 11:28:41 AM » |
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First pictures of the Predalien.  Happy Face, no Lionel Blair comments as well.  |
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2007, 11:34:23 AM » |
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What makes you think it won't be utter s*** (though relatively watchable for a laugh), like the first one?
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2007, 11:37:21 AM » |
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What makes you think it won't be utter s*** (though relatively watchable for a laugh), like the first one?
Shudders at how bad the first one was, although I did like the nice touch of having the knife thing in at the beginning. Just from the sounds of the interviews from the directors, they know how bad the first one was and they seem to want to make huge improvements. |
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2007, 11:39:20 AM » |
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Still love that Predator 'rattle' noise.
Once these things are de-contextualised (in this case done on Earth rather than space) they lose a lot of thier power imo.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2007, 11:44:20 AM » |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2007, 11:47:08 AM » |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2007, 11:48:32 AM » |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably.  Oh yes. I was firmly slouched behind the settee during large sections of AVP... |
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2007, 11:48:35 AM » |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2007, 11:54:59 AM » |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. Shut it Park Life, a Predalien is something that has never been touched upon before in such a way, only in the comics, so that is rather mysterious. |
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2007, 11:58:55 AM » |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. Shut it Park Life, a Predalien is something that has never been touched upon before in such a way, only in the comics, so that is rather mysterious. The follow up storyline they should have gone for is the breeding programme on earth to make hybrid aliens as super soldiers....Goes wrong obviously...That imo would have been more intriguing. Also they get the attention of the Predetors cause of their fighting ability and are seen as a challenge...6 way face off..Good guys-bad guys-aliens-super aliens-predators-breeding programme mutants... It's what I would have done anyway.  |
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2007, 12:01:32 PM » |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. Shut it Park Life, a Predalien is something that has never been touched upon before in such a way, only in the comics, so that is rather mysterious. The follow up storyline they should have gone for is the breeding programme on earth to make hybrid aliens as super soldiers....Goes wrong obviously...That imo would have been more intriguing. Also they get the attention of the Predetors cause of their fighting ability and are seen as a challenge...6 way face off..Good guys-bad guys-aliens-super aliens-predators-breeding programme mutants... It's what I would have done anyway. Don't forget I have read your scripts. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2007, 01:53:05 PM » |
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it looks teribble...but will probably still get a copy and watch it. just to see the the sheer shiteness of it
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Its a new movie! Wow,how come I never heard of it.Definitely going to watch it when its out in the cinema.
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2007, 02:20:55 PM » |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. Shut it Park Life, a Predalien is something that has never been touched upon before in such a way, only in the comics, so that is rather mysterious. The follow up storyline they should have gone for is the breeding programme on earth to make hybrid aliens as super soldiers....Goes wrong obviously...That imo would have been more intriguing. Also they get the attention of the Predetors cause of their fighting ability and are seen as a challenge...6 way face off..Good guys-bad guys-aliens-super aliens-predators-breeding programme mutants... It's what I would have done anyway. What like in about half a million s**** sci fi films? Fuk that. Impregnated Predator is the best way for this to develop. The whole AVP film was worth watching to think about that last scene. This film will be great, the whole concept is spot on. We've seen what happens when a human carries an alien, now we get to see what happens in other species, this time a predator. The lone wolf, super predator is another great idea, this film has the potential to be amazing. |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. Shut it Park Life, a Predalien is something that has never been touched upon before in such a way, only in the comics, so that is rather mysterious. The follow up storyline they should have gone for is the breeding programme on earth to make hybrid aliens as super soldiers....Goes wrong obviously...That imo would have been more intriguing. Also they get the attention of the Predetors cause of their fighting ability and are seen as a challenge...6 way face off..Good guys-bad guys-aliens-super aliens-predators-breeding programme mutants... It's what I would have done anyway. What like in about half a million s**** sci fi films? Fuk that. Impregnated Predator is the best way for this to develop. The whole AVP film was worth watching to think about that last scene. This film will be great, the whole concept is spot on. We've seen what happens when a human carries an alien, now we get to see what happens in other species, this time a predator. The lone wolf, super predator is another great idea, this film has the potential to be amazing. I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. Shut it Park Life, a Predalien is something that has never been touched upon before in such a way, only in the comics, so that is rather mysterious. The follow up storyline they should have gone for is the breeding programme on earth to make hybrid aliens as super soldiers....Goes wrong obviously...That imo would have been more intriguing. Also they get the attention of the Predetors cause of their fighting ability and are seen as a challenge...6 way face off..Good guys-bad guys-aliens-super aliens-predators-breeding programme mutants... It's what I would have done anyway. Fuk that. Impregnated Predator is the best way for this to develop. The whole AVP film was worth watching to think about that last scene. This film will be great, the whole concept is spot on. We've seen what happens when a human carries an alien, now we get to see what happens in other species, this time a predator. The lone wolf, super predator is another great idea, this film has the potential to be amazing. To be precise that idea was from thier best selling book sequel. The next gen soldier will have to operate in a post nuke battlefield. The alien biology is resistant to radiation. |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. Shut it Park Life, a Predalien is something that has never been touched upon before in such a way, only in the comics, so that is rather mysterious. The follow up storyline they should have gone for is the breeding programme on earth to make hybrid aliens as super soldiers....Goes wrong obviously...That imo would have been more intriguing. Also they get the attention of the Predetors cause of their fighting ability and are seen as a challenge...6 way face off..Good guys-bad guys-aliens-super aliens-predators-breeding programme mutants... It's what I would have done anyway. That would have been fantastic, mate. Alien/Aliens and Predator are my all time favourite films and i walked out of AVP in the cinema. I was devestated. Paul 'The c***' Anderson should never have been allowed anywhere near this franchise. All AVP needed was a half reasonable back-story and it could have been the mother of all films. Your suggestion was more along the lines of how I thought it should be done. I have no hopes whatsoever for this film. Also, why the f*** have they shown the Predalien already?! |
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I'm assuming the 'Predalien' is the thingywotsit we saw bursting out of the dead Predator at the end of the first AVP?
There are few bigger Predator fans than me. But, Predator 2, AVP, and probably this one - are all uncompareable to the original. Bring back Arnie.
Can't compare though to Predator, especially any film with Aliens in it as it's a whole different vibe completely. They tried in AVP to bring back more of the tension/horror that was in the first Alien, by having it in a confined space etc but failed miserably. The first Pre and A;lien films had a lot of mystery, the audience were along to discover stuff...Now it just looks like men in costumes. Shut it Park Life, a Predalien is something that has never been touched upon before in such a way, only in the comics, so that is rather mysterious. The follow up storyline they should have gone for is the breeding programme on earth to make hybrid aliens as super soldiers....Goes wrong obviously...That imo would have been more intriguing. Also they get the attention of the Predetors cause of their fighting ability and are seen as a challenge...6 way face off..Good guys-bad guys-aliens-super aliens-predators-breeding programme mutants... It's what I would have done anyway. That would have been fantastic, mate. Alien/Aliens and Predator are my all time favourite films and i walked out of AVP in the cinema. I was devestated. Paul 'The c***' Anderson should never have been allowed anywhere near this franchise. All AVP needed was a half reasonable back-story and it could have been the mother of all films. Your suggestion was more along the lines of how I thought it should be done. I have no hopes whatsoever for this film. Also, why the f*** have they shown the Predalien already?!Cheers man.  Agree total pr gaff. |
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Once the Military are involved in this though they probably will go for some sort of containment element, much in the same way the Company had been trying to all along in the Alien franchise for the benefit of their weapons program.
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Once the Military are involved in this though they probably will go for some sort of containment element, much in the same way the Company had been trying to all along in the Alien franchise for the benefit of their weapons program.
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Once the Military are involved in this though they probably will go for some sort of containment element, much in the same way the Company had been trying to all along in the Alien franchise for the benefit of their weapons program.
That's all well and good, just a bit too late. This movie would have to be something special to re-ignite the passion of many a fanboy, myself included. The fact that you've managed to get hold of pictures of all the creatures involved doesn't exactly bode well for any elements of suspense and surprise. Unfortunately, they're integral parts of this genre. I'll always hope, like yourself no doubt, that they can pull it off. But i said the same before AVP and was left feeling as if i'd been raped by Hollywood, and that ain't nice! |
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Basically no one has the balls or the ingenuity to do it but this franchise has to go back to a prequel and get Ridley Scott or someone of that calibre onboard....You visit the Alien or Predator homeworlds. Of course if I WAS WRITING IT the alien wouldn't be the dominant creature on its own homeworld....
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Basically no one has the balls or the ingenuity to do it but this franchise has to go back to a prequel and get Ridley Scott or someone of that calibre onboard....You visit the Alien or Predator homeworlds. Of course if I WAS WRITING IT the alien wouldn't be the dominant creature on its own homeworld....
I think there's a possibility in this film of us actually seeing the Yautja homeworld. You see though Parky, we all know that they do have a homeworld, but with regards to the Aliens, we know nothing of their origins, if indeed they do have a home world, if they weren't actually genetically created to be used as either Bio weapons or just for sport by the Predators, so if you created an Alien home world, a lot would have to be done to explain the origins of it. How they have managed to get through space etc as they aren't a technologically advanced race. All of which would take up far too much time to explain. |
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I agree fully with what you're saying there, but i just can't see anyone of that calibre going anywhere near this franchise ever again. I think it's now perceived as some kind of all-out-action-blockbuster which doesn't lend itself to any kind of credibility.
However, it worked for Batman. It would take the greatest script/concept known to man to revive it.
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