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« Reply #75 on: Today at 12:46:01 AM »
Quote from: Wullie on Yesterday at 11:11:05 PM
It's a total media myth about Allardyce anyway as far as I'm concerned. We don't play worse stuff than any of the teams around us, or even the rest of the league imo. Only Man Utd and Arsenal can claim to be something above functional.

Allardyce's long ball football is famous because it is successful.  The reality is most clubs outside the top sides do it, but badly, just sam nearly/did become a top side using it.  We played long ball under souness and roeder, so it would be stupid if we complained now.  If the balls to martins v man city and spurs are 'long balls', more please
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Ventspils 1-0
Villa 0-2
Boro 0-1
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Blackburn 3-1
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Fulham 1-2
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« Reply #76 on: Today at 12:46:54 AM »
Quote from: Gallowgate Toon on Yesterday at 10:48:14 PM
We play winning football thats all that matters tbh.

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Who cares as long as we are winning ? First of all we have to establish and win something, then we can discuss the way we play...

I don't think this thread is relevant tbh... sorry... can't see the man utd or arsenal supporters wasting time on such topics either...

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« Reply #77 on: Today at 01:09:27 AM »
In recent years, Greece won Euro 2004, Liverpool won the Champions League, Valencia won La Liga, Chelsea won the Premier League and Italy won the world cup all with a defensive mindset. There has certainly been a trend towards this kind of coaching and tactics in recent years. The increasing amount of money in the game has raised the stakes and as a result many have set their teams up more cautiously.

However, we have to remember that since the Premier League began it has been won almost exclusively by very attacking teams, while Brazil have won more world cups than anybody by playing a very open game.

People look at the success of Greece, they see how Everton and Osasuna qualified for the Champions League, and they figure that a defensive set-up, often with only 1 up front, is the safer approach. But for every Everton or Osasuna, there is a Newcastle (under Robson), a Villarreal or a Sevilla who do it by playing attacking, open football. I don't think the Allardyce/Benitez/Mourinho football offers any more security than the Wenger/Ferguson football. If anything, history suggests otherwise.
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« Reply #78 on: Today at 06:36:09 AM »
Quote from: Mick on Yesterday at 02:10:53 PM
Some of our play away from home has been very poor and needs to improve, I just wish he'd try to play the same team away from home with the same formation and same attitude.  Go defensive against the better teams and attack the weaker teams.

Agreed, Mick - we need to improve drastically in away games, but with Capaca & Faye in the middle I expect a better showing at Reading than Man City ; if we lose here, its a bad sign - this is a team we should be beating if we want to progress beyond mid-table.
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im a norwegian! dont like it? f*** off!
« Reply #79 on: Today at 07:09:18 AM »
i think the main thing sam has given us is defensive stability, something we... well, havent had for the last 10 years or so!
now he needs to shapen up the offencive part! wich i recon wont be so long until he has that one figured out! remember, new players, new positions!
the main problem now is delivery from defense to wingers, and a main man linking up midfield and attack!
still, i enjoy watching newcastle matches now (as under the days of Sou, Roe, i werent!)
becouse the players look like they want to play! and enjoy it!
theyr happy!, im happy Smile they want to fight for the ball!
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« Reply #80 on: Today at 07:46:37 AM »
How could you be unhappy with the way we play. It all starts from a good defense which is being built up and solidified. Even if Sam told them to go play quick, short passes and flicks through a developed attack I don't think we'd even have enough players capable of playing to that style. Let's just try to win for a while before we worry about how we play.
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« Reply #81 on: Today at 09:57:31 AM »

 Despite the risk of sounding totally original, i'm going out on a limb here and saying that Lawro is a tool
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« Reply #82 on: Today at 11:17:20 AM »
Quote from: ohmelads on Today at 01:09:27 AM
In recent years, Greece won Euro 2004, Liverpool won the Champions League, Valencia won La Liga, Chelsea won the Premier League and Italy won the world cup all with a defensive mindset. There has certainly been a trend towards this kind of coaching and tactics in recent years. The increasing amount of money in the game has raised the stakes and as a result many have set their teams up more cautiously.

However, we have to remember that since the Premier League began it has been won almost exclusively by very attacking teams, while Brazil have won more world cups than anybody by playing a very open game.

People look at the success of Greece, they see how Everton and Osasuna qualified for the Champions League, and they figure that a defensive set-up, often with only 1 up front, is the safer approach. But for every Everton or Osasuna, there is a Newcastle (under Robson), a Villarreal or a Sevilla who do it by playing attacking, open football. I don't think the Allardyce/Benitez/Mourinho football offers any more security than the Wenger/Ferguson football. If anything, history suggests otherwise.

Good post.
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