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« Reply #50 on: October 22, 2007, 09:56:57 AM » |
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Because he's our best player. He's a very clever footballer, and his goal-scoring record for us is class.
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« Reply #51 on: October 22, 2007, 10:00:24 AM » |
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there is no single player we rely on to that extent,which is a good thing
Agreed. Where as in seasons gone by Shearer and Given were collosal head and shoulders above the rest, like Stevie G is for Liverpool we don't really have one at the moment, which isn't a bad thing. Zoggy imo has been our best player thus far, although has faded over the last game or so, so i'd have to pick him if i had to atm. Given has also been collosal season after season. Alot of our players have the potential to including Emre, Barton, Owen, Martins, Cacapa, Taylor imo |
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Subs; Harper, Taylor/Roze, Barton, Geremi, Smith.
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« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2007, 10:09:45 AM » |
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sadly there isn't anyone real class at the moment - so we don't have a "most important player" :-(
the closest we get is zoggy imo - adds a bit of creativity and unexpectedness, too many of our players are too easy to read
Disagree. Owen and Given are world class players IMO, Players like Cacapa and Viduka are very good quality Premiership players and the likes of Enrique, Zog, Martins etc have a lot of potential. i agree (do i then disagree with myself?). owen and given are top players, as is martins and we also have other good players. they just aren't really playing as top players at the moment. owen hasn't played much and the rest of the team seems mediocre at times. but we do have the potential - i would love to see a bit more creativity in the side though |
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« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2007, 11:23:13 AM » |
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charlie and roz are important but milner/duff(when fit) and faye are capable to fill their positions. to me, viduka is the most important player even when everyone is fit because no one is capable to do what he can do and he is the first choice to partner owen or martins. our system (regardless 433 or 442) requires a striker to hold up the ball and to connect crosses(regardless from emre, milner or charlie), that makes viduka irreplaceable at the moment.
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« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2007, 02:09:44 PM » |
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people saying we have missed owen!  martins has been smashing the goals in left right and centre and he should always start if owen wont play with martins then we havnt missed him, if he would play with martins then we need him but im happy with martins viduka |
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« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2007, 02:24:53 PM » |
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people saying we have missed owen! martins has been smashing the goals in left right and centre and he should always start if owen wont play with martins then we havnt missed him, if he would play with martins then we need him but im happy with martins viduka Owen is better than Martins or Viduka. I can see where you're coming from partially as much as I'm a big fan of Viduka and I know Owen will play well alongside pie shop. Martins is a decent striker but wouldnt go as far as saying he's banging them in left right and centre - that's what i would say Andy Cole was doing before we sold him! Give Martins time, but for now Owen is far and away the best forward at this club. |
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« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2007, 02:36:38 PM » |
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people saying we have missed owen! martins has been smashing the goals in left right and centre and he should always start if owen wont play with martins then we havnt missed him, if he would play with martins then we need him but im happy with martins viduka Funny because the stats don't back that up. |
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« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2007, 02:47:07 PM » |
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Isnt it strange how historically we've craved a decent defence/defender and thats always been the stigma attached to our lack of success and frustration and yet when we finally have a defence to be proud of noone seems to be placing any importance on them. This is the reason why i think Roz and Cacapa are so bloody important, without them we are the last 3/4 seasons all over again.
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« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2007, 02:48:41 PM » |
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Isnt it strange how historically we've craved a decent defence/defender and thats always been the stigma attached to our lack of success and frustration and yet when we finally have a defence to be proud of noone seems to be placing any importance on them. This is the reason why i think Roz and Cacapa are so bloody important, without them we are the last 3/4 seasons all over again.
I think Faye is the type o defender we've been crying out for for years too, i.e. - a big strong centre-back. |
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« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2007, 02:50:52 PM » |
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Isnt it strange how historically we've craved a decent defence/defender and thats always been the stigma attached to our lack of success and frustration and yet when we finally have a defence to be proud of noone seems to be placing any importance on them. This is the reason why i think Roz and Cacapa are so bloody important, without them we are the last 3/4 seasons all over again.
I think Faye is the type o defender we've been crying out for for years too, i.e. - a big strong centre-back.  |
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« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2007, 02:59:33 PM » |
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Isnt it strange how historically we've craved a decent defence/defender and thats always been the stigma attached to our lack of success and frustration and yet when we finally have a defence to be proud of noone seems to be placing any importance on them. This is the reason why i think Roz and Cacapa are so bloody important, without them we are the last 3/4 seasons all over again.
I think Faye is the type o defender we've been crying out for for years too, i.e. - a big strong centre-back. Yeh i agree, although i personally have been craving a defender who is able to bring the ball out of defence, even Bramble had his good days but i still hated seeing him hoof the ball to wembely everytime he got the ball, the number of times he gave the ball away in the middle of our half was unbelivable, its why i place more value on the likes of Roz and Cacapas who are able to play the ball to out of defence releasing pressure and retaining possession, which is 'nine tenths of the game' (Not sayin Faye cant pass the ball out of defence, just making a generalisation about all 'big strong defenders') |
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« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2007, 03:10:04 PM » |
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Isnt it strange how historically we've craved a decent defence/defender and thats always been the stigma attached to our lack of success and frustration and yet when we finally have a defence to be proud of noone seems to be placing any importance on them. This is the reason why i think Roz and Cacapa are so bloody important, without them we are the last 3/4 seasons all over again.
I think Faye is the type o defender we've been crying out for for years too, i.e. - a big strong centre-back. Yeh i agree, although i personally have been craving a defender who is able to bring the ball out of defence, even Bramble had his good days but i still hated seeing him hoof the ball to wembely everytime he got the ball, the number of times he gave the ball away in the middle of our half was unbelivable, its why i place more value on the likes of Roz and Cacapas who are able to play the ball to out of defence releasing pressure and retaining possession, which is 'nine tenths of the game' (Not sayin Faye cant pass the ball out of defence, just making a generalisation about all 'big strong defenders') I think both are equally important really, you need a good blend in that position, same as you do in the middle of the park and up front. I think the best combo is Faye and Cacapa / Rozenhal, especially in the majority of PL games. What we've all really been craving I suppose is a good back four and we actually look like we're well on the way to having that now. For the first time in years. |
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« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2007, 04:35:53 PM » |
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Isnt it strange how historically we've craved a decent defence/defender and thats always been the stigma attached to our lack of success and frustration and yet when we finally have a defence to be proud of noone seems to be placing any importance on them. This is the reason why i think Roz and Cacapa are so bloody important, without them we are the last 3/4 seasons all over again.
I think Faye is the type o defender we've been crying out for for years too, i.e. - a big strong centre-back. Yeh i agree, although i personally have been craving a defender who is able to bring the ball out of defence, even Bramble had his good days but i still hated seeing him hoof the ball to wembely everytime he got the ball, the number of times he gave the ball away eyes.gifin the middle of our half was unbelivable, its why i place more value on the likes of Roz and Cacapas who are able to play the ball to out of defence releasing pressure and retaining possession, which is 'nine tenths of the game' (Not sayin Faye cant pass the ball out of defence, just making a generalisation about all 'big strong defenders') I think both are equally important really, you need a good blend in that position, same as you do in the middle of the park and up front. I think the best combo is Faye and Cacapa / Rozenhal, especially in the majority of PL games. What we've all really been craving I suppose is a good back four and we actually look like we're well on the way to having that now. For the first time in years.  |
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« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2007, 06:07:24 PM » |
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In the system we have been been playing Milner has the most important job on the field. He has been piss poor but he would have been helped by a little more guile from the 3 in midfield.
Most important is the one who can bring some creativity. At the minute he doesn't exist.
Cacapa is important at the back. Owen is important up front if he gets the service. With our lot that isn't always likely. Without the service he is a passenger.
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« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2007, 06:29:48 PM » |
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no one..... is important right now... every squad member has it's own error... but i think this good way for team condition to work out their team plays rather than individual plays....
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