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In the season Bolton came up I remember Allardyce telling people that he'd set the team targets for each set of games. This led to the MOTD pundits asking each other 'do you really think he's got a list, that many points from each match?'. I think it's more likely that Allardyce was setting points targets for sets of matches. Thinking about that led me to look at our fixtures, and prior to the two week break at the start of September it looks like this
Bolton (A)
Villa (H)
'Boro (A)
Carling Cup 2nd Round
Wigan (H)
Last season those games brought us
Bolton, 1-2 defeat
Villa, 3-1 victory
'Boro, 0-1 defeat
Wigan, 2-1 victory
and for the cup we were in Europe instead...
So last time out we took 6 from a possible 12 points. What makes a good target this time? I'm not sure that any of those sides have progressed, Villa's squad has actually shrunk by six players so far this season. On the other hand we'll be adapting to a new system and trying to bed in new players. I'd say getting 6 points again would be poor, 7-8 OK, 9 or more good.
Personally I'm expecting decent home wins and some really dull away draws, courtesy of a big back line and a brutal midfield. I'd set a target of 8 points for the first four games. How about you guys?
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2007, 01:01:08 PM » |
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Bolton away - Draw could sneak a win if signings are made soon
Villa home- win on Sams first at St James
Boro away- win Viduka to score
Wigan home- win get a couple of goals
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2007, 01:02:42 PM » |
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Bolton away - Draw could sneak a win if signings are made soon
Villa home- win on Sams first at St James
Boro away- win Viduka to score
Wigan home- win get a couple of goals
agree but will win boro 3-1 viduka and oba(x2) |
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2007, 01:03:55 PM » |
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Bolton should be a draw, will be a very physical, tight and tough game. Those games often end all square.
Villa really should be 3 p in the bag, a lot of our players will have their first ever competitive outing at SJP and that'll be a big boost.
Boro is a test, could well be 3 p if the players show some character. I'd like to think that Owen will be back here. We'll win it.
Wigan at home is the easiest home game all season. Bramble will s*** himself and I really can't see Sibierski or Heskey causing too much trouble up front.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2007, 01:05:34 PM » |
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for villa we should have smith,viduka,rozenhal,geremi,cacapa all making their home debuts in the premiership
we will get behind them and they should try and put on a show
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2007, 01:06:13 PM » |
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Btw i think we could have a wonderful start to the season if these two players Enrique and Drago sign in time we could be in a great position after the first 7 or 8 games.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2007, 01:06:35 PM » |
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for villa we should have smith,viduka,rozenhal,geremi,cacapa all making their home debuts in the premiership
we will get behind them and they should try and put on a show
with promise of more signings?? |
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2007, 01:09:15 PM » |
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for villa we should have smith,viduka,rozenhal,geremi,cacapa all making their home debuts in the premiership
we will get behind them and they should try and put on a show
with promise of more signings?? maybe this enrique or drago and their could be another yes, a exciting month ahead of us |
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2007, 01:10:26 PM » |
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Make sure four fixtures is as many as you post here please lads.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2007, 01:49:46 PM » |
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We shouldn't lose any of those games. We should win all four of them really but i can't see that.
Bolton (A) - Draw
Villa (H) - Draw
Middlesbrough (A) - Win
Wigan (H) - Win
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2007, 01:57:32 PM » |
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Bolton (A) - Draw
Villa (H) - Win
Middlesbrough (A) - Win
Wigan (H) - Win
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2007, 02:01:29 PM » |
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Bolton (A) - Draw
Villa (H) - Win
Middlesbrough (A) - Draw
Wigan (H) - Win
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2007, 05:48:34 PM » |
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We're feeling pretty optimistic then :-)
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2007, 09:03:26 AM » |
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Well, those games have gone now. A lot of folks went for three wins and a draw, and almost everyone thought we'd beat Villa. Still four league games unbeaten, 8 points and a cup win against Barnsely isn't a bad start now is it.
So, the next set of games for you to predict are...
Derby Away
West Ham Home
Arsenal Away (carling cup)
Man City Away
Everton Home
Then there's another two week break. For these I can see Derby and West Ham being three points, and City and Everton being draws. I'm going for another 8 points, and Big Sam to continue his decent record against Wenger with a shock victory at the Emirates.
Mind you, that would be 10 games unbeaten, which seems unlikely. Still, right now we just don't look like losing.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 09:44:57 AM » |
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Derby Away = Draw
West Ham Home = Draw
Arsenal Away (Cp) = Lose
Man City Away = Lose
Everton (Home) = Draw
I reckon 3 points from the next four league games although respective wins instead of draws at derby and at home to wet ham wouldn't suprise me. Everton will be an extremely difficult game against a good side.
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"Sometimes you see beautiful people with no brains. Sometimes you have ugly people who are intelligent, like scientists. Our pitch is a bit like that. From the top it's a disgrace but the ball rolls at normal speed."
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 09:46:46 AM » |
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I can see us beating Derby and West Ham, maybe sneaking it at the Emirates. Then I think we will get a reality check with losses to Man city and Everton.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2007, 09:54:45 AM » |
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Derby - Win
Wham - Win
Arse - Win
Mancity - Loss
Everton - Draw
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2007, 10:03:51 AM » |
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Derby Away - Win
West Ham Home - Draw
Arsenal Away (carling cup) - Draw
Man City Away - loss
Everton Home - Win
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2007, 10:06:43 AM » |
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Can we get draws in the third round of the CC or does it go straight to penalties?
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2007, 10:31:31 AM » |
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Derby Away - Win
West Ham Home - Win
Arsenal Away (carling cup) - Loss
Man City Away - Draw
Everton Home - Draw
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 10:33:12 AM » |
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Derby - win
West Ham - Anhiliation
Arsenal - really don't know, depends on Wengerbus's policy for the cup this year
Citeh - If they don't win their next game we'll win this. Citeh need to stop the little losing streak they've got going quickly or it could be a tricky season still, Svens a good manager when things are going ok, but I'm not convinced about how good he is at turing things around
Everton - Win - we're due one against them!
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I agree with everything Scott Parker's 60's Haircut's said so far, he seems to have a good understanding on the whole concept, and speaks a great deal of sense.
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 10:46:45 AM » |
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Derby (Away) = Win
West Ham (Home) = Win
Arsenal Away (Cp) = Win
Man City Away = Lose
Everton (Home) = Draw
7pts from the next 4 for me. Would give us 15 from 8, good start.
I think the Cup game could go either way, if we are up for it i think we could sneak it.
I reckon 3 points from the next four league games although respective wins instead of draws at derby and at home to wet ham wouldn't suprise me. Everton will be an extremely difficult game against a good side.
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 11:00:15 AM » |
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Derby Away = Win
West Ham Home = Draw
Arsenal Away (Cp) = Lose
Man City Away = Draw
Everton (Home) = Draw
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2007, 11:14:06 AM » |
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Guys Man City arnt as good as people give them credit for, they have lost their last 3 games and i think they have scored just once at home this season in all comps.
Derby = Win
West Ham = Win
Arsenal = Win
Man City = Win
Everton = Win
Lets face it, all are possible, Derby are s***, West Ham arnt as good as people thought they were gonna be plus we are at home, Arsenal will play a weakened side like they always do in this cup, also Sam will make us hard to beat, just keep Van Persie at bay.
Man City, like i said above, 1 goal at home this season and 3 defeats in a row its definately winnable.
Everton, a tough game, but we are at home and this fixture at home you would put us down as favourites surely?
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2007, 11:16:28 AM » |
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Can we get draws in the third round of the CC or does it go straight to penalties?
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