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Glenn Roeder claims 'two or three' of his Newcastle team do not have long-term futures at the club.
Roeder, whose team slipped up at AZ Alkmaar in the Uefa Cup and Charlton in the Premiership, has been disappointed by recent performances.
While the former West Ham chief admits he can have no arguments over the application of the majority of his injury-hit squad this season, he has cited poor attitude in some players.
The manager is determined to root out the deadwood in his squad and claims he already knows where to start wielding the axe.
"In our last two games in Alkmaar and at The Valley, I was disappointed with the attitude of two or three of our players - not all of them - when we went a goal behind," said Roeder.
"That is something I will not accept. I know who these players are and it will not matter to me whether they have contracts or not, they will not feature in my long-term plans.
"I have been in football all my life and one thing I have learned is that as far as motivation is concerned, 99 percent of the time, it comes from within.
"It is something you are born with, so in some cases, it does not matter who the manager is.
"However, I am a naturally motivated person and I have to say I am hugely disappointed that at times in our last two games against Alkmaar and Charlton, some of our players have not shown the natural motivation I expect and want at this club."
Meanwhile, Newcastle are said to be keeping tabs on Shakthar Donetsk left back Razvan Rat.
A Newcastle scout is understood to have taken in Romania's game with Holland and Rat is reported to have impressed.
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March 29, 2007, 12:33:45 PM »
The thing is, people are mentioning the likes of Carr, Babayaro, Bernard & Luque, but he's talking about a few players who played in those 2 games. None of the above did. I reckon he's talking Bramble, Moore & Emre.
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March 29, 2007, 12:35:07 PM »
Moore's leaving anyway.
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Quote from: Optimistic Nut on March 29, 2007, 12:33:45 PM
The thing is, people are mentioning the likes of Carr, Babayaro, Bernard & Luque, but he's talking about a few players who played in those 2 games. None of the above did. I reckon he's talking Bramble, Moore & Emre.
If it was off that game alone, Taylor would be the 1st out of the door.
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March 29, 2007, 12:37:30 PM »
Glad to hear some tough talk - I just hope it's backed up by tough action...
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March 29, 2007, 12:38:16 PM »
Not saying much but I thought Emre was one of the brighter sparks in those games.
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March 29, 2007, 12:38:33 PM »
I think he is looking at midfield more than defence, also the comment about "I know who these players are and it will not matter to me whether they have contracts or not", seems to suggest players who still have a few years left on their deals, Brambles deal is nearly up anyway.
This may just be a bit of provication from Glenn, its clever really as he made sure no one was singled out as going or staying, if your a Toon player reading that its going to start you off wondering if it could be you. Glenn just looking for a reaction maybe.
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March 29, 2007, 12:49:31 PM »
2 or 3 isnt enough.
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March 29, 2007, 12:53:56 PM »
someone post the Charlton and Alkmarr teams and lets make a game of it
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March 29, 2007, 12:55:46 PM »
Quote from: Elliottman on March 29, 2007, 12:49:31 PM
2 or 3 isnt enough.
We can't afford to let more than that go to be honest.
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March 29, 2007, 12:57:27 PM »
The thing is, if we're talking those two games then Sibierski & Martins are right on top of the list.
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March 29, 2007, 01:03:22 PM »
Won't be Martins thats for sure, Glenn loves him, as do I
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March 29, 2007, 01:09:24 PM »
Quote from: Skirge on March 29, 2007, 01:03:22 PM
Won't be Martins thats for sure, Glenn loves him, as do I
I guess that has something to do with Oba regularly scoring?
I have an impression Roeder's disappointment has more to do with midfield and defence, rather than attack (although I'm aware we didn't score a single goal in those two games).
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March 29, 2007, 01:14:19 PM »
no one gonna post the teams then?
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March 29, 2007, 01:15:43 PM »
Team for AZ was
Given
Solano
Bramble
Taylor
Huntington
Dyer
Butt
Parker
Duff
Sibierski
Martins.
(Emre on as sub)
(N'Zogbia on as sub)
Team for Charlton was
Given
Solano
Gooch
Moore
Duff
Dyer
Parker
Emre
Milner
Martins
Le Sib
Zoggy (on as sub)
He could mean Nobby, Bramble and Le Sib. Bramble did not play in both but he was dropped for Charlton game.
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March 29, 2007, 01:20:20 PM »
So if we let 3 go we then need about 6-8 players in the summer. Have we ever brought in that many before ? It means another year of a non- gelled team that don`t know eachothers game.
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March 29, 2007, 01:21:07 PM »
3 Roeder wants out + Moore who wants to leave anyway..
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March 29, 2007, 01:23:03 PM »
Even though he mentioned those two games, he means the squad in general.
He recently said Zoggy is staying anyway.
He loves Sib.
He loves Martins.
He heaps praise of Huntington and Taylor.
He constantly praises Solano.
Gooch is a loan, so its not him.
Milner has been one of our best players this season.
Dyer has been wanked over by Glenn on numerous occasions.
Butt- See Milner.
Emre was decent in those games.
That leaves Bramble, Parker, Duff, Moore (off anyway) etc etc.
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March 29, 2007, 01:24:59 PM »
Quote from: Skirge on March 29, 2007, 01:21:07 PM
3 Roeder wants out + Moore who wants to leave anyway..
So we needed a RB a LB niether of which played in those games.
Moore is going anyway.
3 players that were s*** in both games were SIB, Solano and Duff.
We would need a CB regardless of Bramble going or staying, so I would say 2 CBs if hes going.
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March 29, 2007, 01:27:14 PM »
Quote from: NewcastleRocker on March 29, 2007, 01:23:03 PM
Even though he mentioned those two games, he means the squad in general.
He recently said Zoggy is staying anyway.
He loves Sib.
He loves Martins.
He heaps praise of Huntington and Taylor.
He constantly praises Solano.
Gooch is a loan, so its not him.
Milner has been one of our best players this season.
Dyer has been wanked over by Glenn on numerous occasions.
Butt- See Milner.
Emre was decent in those games.
That leaves Bramble, Parker, Duff, Moore (off anyway) etc etc.
He is talking about poor attitude, not poor passing or movement so it won`t be Parker as a good atitutde is all he has going for him.
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March 29, 2007, 02:35:38 PM »
I'd personally be a bit dissapointed if we let Duff go on the cheap. We should think about bringing players in before we let any go.
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March 29, 2007, 05:59:09 PM »
'I was disappointed with the attitude of two or three of our players'
'Glenn Roeder claims 'two or three' of his Newcastle team do not have long-term futures at the club.'
It is from that quote they have some how sprouted up that sh**e. It means nothing it's that quote they've used to add on they will be leaving. So looks like it could just be a stern talking to nothing to do with them being shown the door.
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March 29, 2007, 07:10:00 PM »
"That is something I will not accept. I know who these players are and it will not matter to me whether they have contracts or not, they will not feature in my long-term plans.
reads pretty clear to me "oot on there arses"
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March 29, 2007, 07:40:16 PM »
Most of them will probably happily settle for another year or so at the toon the money they're on.
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March 29, 2007, 08:02:43 PM »
Quote from: biggs on March 29, 2007, 07:10:00 PM
"That is something I will not accept. I know who these players are and it will not matter to me whether they have contracts or not, they will not feature in
my long-term
plans.
reads pretty clear to me "oot on there arses"
Not sure about that tbh. The bit in bold scares the s*** out of me.
1) The wasters are not here for the 'long-term' according to Roeder which implies that they are here for the short/medium term. In other words, unless we find anyone thick enough to take them off our hands, their contracts run out or we sign their replacements - we're stuck with them.
2) Roeder is under the impression that he himself has a 'long-term' future at the club.
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