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« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2007, 05:22:37 PM »

Aye, some of them are. That's no reason to ban them though, i.e. because we don't like them. Have you see some of the fuckwits the state education produces, etc.? Basically, it's all about freedom of choice.

A better education is offered due to money, you pay for it you get better, just like health, or your house or car. Should Jews get better health care or their own clinics? Why am i saying this? We are one step away from that with Asian minorites already.  {$default_roll_eyes_smiley}

No lesser or better education should be offered to someone due to their religious beliefs.

Thing that pisses me off, the Gov will hammer more money into a school for a religious minority than they ever will at a normal state school, no wonder you get morons coming out of there as well.

Right so its my freedom of choice to send my son to that college when he grows up. He's not jewish, but i dont mind the odd RE lesson, i want him to go there, if there is a fee i will pay, what do you think they will say?

Can you imaging refusing someone for being black from a normal school?
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« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2007, 05:24:32 PM »

Anyway am done on this matter, my opinions have been expressed, i always end up going too far on shitty matters like this so am leaving this one.

I am right though, PC brigade cant keep me hush Wink  Afro
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« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2007, 05:29:16 PM »

Aye, some of them are. That's no reason to ban them though, i.e. because we don't like them. Have you see some of the fuckwits the state education produces, etc.? Basically, it's all about freedom of choice.

A better education is offered due to money, you pay for it you get better, just like health, or your house or car. Should Jews get better health care or their own clinics? Why am i saying this? We are one step away from that with Asian minorites already.  {$default_roll_eyes_smiley}

No lesser or better education should be offered to someone due to their religious beliefs.

Thing that pisses me off, the Gov will hammer more money into a school for a religious minority than they ever will at a normal state school, no wonder you get morons coming out of there as well.

Right so its my freedom of choice to send my son to that college when he grows up. He's not jewish, but i dont mind the odd RE lesson, i want him to go there, if there is a fee i will pay, what do you think they will say?

Can you imaging refusing someone for being black from a normal school?
Any evidence to back that claim up? Sounds made up tbh.
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« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2007, 05:33:14 PM »

i don't have a problem with private schools but i don't believe state schools should be religious. the jewish population of gateshead is only around 1500, as a lot of the jews you see around are students who aren't permanently domiciled there. it's grown a bit in recent years as some Jewish institutions have relocated from minging Sunderland.

i don't have a problem with the community, in fact i think they provide something different and unique to the area. not everyday you get to see foot long sideburns.
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« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2007, 05:34:24 PM »

Have to say Toons Taylor, you raise some very valid points mate.

I'll stick up for you!  Laughing Its funny how this country has so many fence sitters and a growing number of people in the PC Brigade. Seems fewer and fewer people are prepared to express a different opinion or one they fear doesn't 'conform'.

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« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2007, 05:36:22 PM »

Certainly with a lot of these orthodox religious types, their lifestyles are so entwined with their religion that it would be very difficult for them to be taught at a regular state school. Tbh, I think it is unhealthy but I don't see a workable compromise.

Much the same. 
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« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2007, 05:37:08 PM »

i don't have a problem with private schools but i don't believe state schools should be religious.
I agree with that tbh.
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« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2007, 05:39:27 PM »

It was funny when I went to Saltwell Park the other day to have a kick about and there was about 15-20 of them all wearing black suits and them silly looking hats.  It was red hot.  They must have been pissing sweat.  Haven't they understood the concept of a t-shirt and/or shorts?
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« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2007, 05:45:39 PM »

Why should the get their own school?



Yeah its not like Catholics get their own schools  Laughs

Why should catholics get their own schools?

The dumb fuking government go on about segregation as a problem yet allow Muslim/Jewish & Catholic schools in this Country.

Its being taught at the earliest level that there is a divide, and since you've haven't answered the fuking question, i'll ask again, Why should the get their own school?

Don't forget the Anglicans as well. They have their own schools.
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« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2007, 06:45:28 PM »

Have to say Toons Taylor, you raise some very valid points mate.

I'll stick up for you!  Laughing Its funny how this country has so many fence sitters and a growing number of people in the PC Brigade. Seems fewer and fewer people are prepared to express a different opinion or one they fear doesn't 'conform'.



Post up proof that more money is put into these schools than normal ones and I will express my views on it. If not then I will dismiss it as something someone is ranting on about to make a point without really knowing if its true or not.
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« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2007, 07:33:52 PM »

I may be generalising   , but  how is that different to any other thread Gejon?
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« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2007, 09:01:30 PM »

When most people claim something they normally back it up.

I may aswell say "well its unfair, those blacks get paid £500 a week from the government just because they have different colour skin" if you are going to claim something you really should back it up otherwise most will right it off as bollocks.
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« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2007, 09:08:47 PM »

Have to say Toons Taylor, you raise some very valid points mate.

I'll stick up for you!  Laughing Its funny how this country has so many fence sitters and a growing number of people in the PC Brigade. Seems fewer and fewer people are prepared to express a different opinion or one they fear doesn't 'conform'.



Post up proof that more money is put into these schools than normal ones and I will express my views on it. If not then I will dismiss it as something someone is ranting on about to make a point without really knowing if its true or not.

I didn't say anything about anybody pouring money into the various types of schools Gejon.

Imagining things?

I did say I agree with Toons Taylor about some of his points though. The one specific issue he raised that I agree wholeheartedly with is the fact that the Jewish schools/Muslim Schools wouldn't let a white lad from middle England enrol if they wanted to go there (say, they offered a better standard of education or whatever).........which is bollocks.

I've got no problem with variety and everyone doing their thing religion wise, each to their own, but most minorities are the first to complain about being bullied, segregated or hard done by when many make no effort whatsoever to integrate. YET, they wouldn't ever meet halfway and say "ok, let people understand our religion/way of life better, let kids come to our schools for a week to experience it and learn about the cultural differences".

That would never happen, its a closed door and an open wallet. Happy to take but reluctant to give back in my experience.
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« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2007, 09:21:57 PM »

You were talking about "fence sitters" and how we should all basically be up in arms about it yet there is nothing to be up in arms about. The closest thing to it is the baseless claim that more of the governments money goes into Jewish/other religious schools.
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« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2007, 09:40:09 PM »

You were talking about "fence sitters" and how we should all basically be up in arms about it yet there is nothing to be up in arms about. The closest thing to it is the baseless claim that more of the governments money goes into Jewish/other religious schools.

Where, in my original post, did I say everyone should be up in arms about it?

I didn't. What I did say was that more and more people seem afraid to say anything thats means they do anything other than sitting on the fence.

When I talked to the guys in my office about it those who know me and feel comfortable saying what they honestly feel said 'Integration - only works one way, my kid could never get in to a minority school if they wanted", those others that I know less well said "Oh well, what can we do about it, it doesn't make too much difference does it?"

I know they wouldn't say that to people they know better, you could tell by the way they said.

I don't really give a f*** if people are up in arms about it or not but I do think minorities do little to integrate when it comes to education.
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« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2007, 09:53:16 PM »

Have to say Toons Taylor, you raise some very valid points mate.

I'll stick up for you!  Laughing Its funny how this country has so many fence sitters and a growing number of people in the PC Brigade. Seems fewer and fewer people are prepared to express a different opinion or one they fear doesn't 'conform'.



Post up proof that more money is put into these schools than normal ones and I will express my views on it. If not then I will dismiss it as something someone is ranting on about to make a point without really knowing if its true or not.

I didn't say anything about anybody pouring money into the various types of schools Gejon.

Imagining things?

I did say I agree with Toons Taylor about some of his points though. The one specific issue he raised that I agree wholeheartedly with is the fact that the Jewish schools/Muslim Schools wouldn't let a white lad from middle England enrol if they wanted to go there (say, they offered a better standard of education or whatever).........which is bollocks.

I've got no problem with variety and everyone doing their thing religion wise, each to their own, but most minorities are the first to complain about being bullied, segregated or hard done by when many make no effort whatsoever to integrate. YET, they wouldn't ever meet halfway and say "ok, let people understand our religion/way of life better, let kids come to our schools for a week to experience it and learn about the cultural differences".

That would never happen, its a closed door and an open wallet. Happy to take but reluctant to give back in my experience.

That's wrong  for a start. Muslim schools welcome anyone who want to learn about Islam and it is fairly easy to become a Muslim. It's a bit more complicated to become Jewish that much is true.
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« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2007, 09:55:39 PM »

i'd rather my hard earned taxes were spent on renewing trident than spent on faith schools.there ye are
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« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2007, 10:01:15 PM »

do the jewish schools in Gateshead receive any money from the state? i thought they were independent, fee-paying schools? not sure the colleges there (where most the students attend) are relevant to this discussion either.
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« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2007, 10:19:37 PM »

do the jewish schools in Gateshead receiving any money from the state? i thought they were independent, fee-paying schools? not sure the colleges there (where most the students attend) is relevant to this discussion either.

Exactly, seems like its getting the hump for the sake of it.
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« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2007, 10:24:44 PM »

we all know jewish schools are funded by plundered Nazi gold, the robbing gits
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« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2007, 10:28:32 PM »

we all know jewish schools are funded by plundered Nazi gold, the robbing gits

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« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2007, 10:43:54 PM »

As usual some people are spouting off about things they know precisely f*** all about.

If a school receives money from the state then it can't refuse admission to anyone living in its catchment area, for religious, racial or any other similar reason. "Church aided" type schools like most of the CofE and Catholic schools are essentially state schools, but they receive some additional funding from whatever religious group they are associated with. In exchange for that the organisation is allowed a small proportion of the total places to distribute to its members etc. The stricter religious schools like some of the Islamic ones and I'm guessing this Jewish one are private schools and do not get any state funding, therefore they have much more control over their admission policies and the curriculum they teach.

Sorry if that reality, doesn't fit with some people's fantasies.
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« Reply #72 on: March 27, 2007, 11:04:30 PM »

The main majority of the students who attend the jewish schools in Gateshead are actually from other countries, so I would have to say they must be privately funded. A mate of mine's wife works at the halls of residence, says they are scruffy bastards as well Laughing
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« Reply #73 on: March 27, 2007, 11:06:44 PM »

Come to think of it, it would make a great hiding place for Bin Laden, stick a suit and a trilby on him they'd think he was a rabbi, no one would ever think of looking there!!!!
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« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2007, 01:50:32 AM »

Come to think of it, it would make a great hiding place for Bin Laden, stick a suit and a trilby on him they'd think he was a rabbi, no one would ever think of looking there!!!!

.......and thus the truth was set free..
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