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« Reply #650 on: October 22, 2007, 11:26:49 AM » |
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BMW Sauber and Williams were not punished for the fuel temperature discrepancy at the Brazilian Grand Prix because the FIA stewards could not prove that their petrol was outside the permitted limit.
A statement issued by the stewards at Interlagos on Sunday night said that they could not say for certain that the fuel in the cars was below the 10-degree maximum limit allowed in the regulations.
The stewards said that there was a discrepancy between the Formula One Management temperature of 37 degrees and that provided by the FIA and team-contracted meteorologists Meteo France, which was a few degrees cooler.
Furthermore, they made it clear that they did not have certain data in their possession that would have helped prove the teams were in breach of the regulations.
In particular, their statement said they lacked: "a precise reading of the temperature of 'fuel on board the car' which shows fuel at more than 10 degrees centigrade below ambient temperature"; and "a regulation stating in clear terms that for the purposes of Article [6.5.5] the definitive ambient temperature shall be indicated on the FOM timing monitors alone."
The statement added: "In view of the matters referred to above, the stewards consider that not withstanding the presumptions referred to above there must be sufficient doubt as to both the temperature of the fuel actually 'on board the car' and also as to the true ambient temperature as to render it inappropriate to impose a penalty."
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« Reply #651 on: October 22, 2007, 11:28:26 AM » |
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Im not sure how an appeal will help them getting a reading of the fuel inside the car during the race....
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« Reply #652 on: October 22, 2007, 11:39:16 AM » |
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And yet there are reports on other websites (BBC is one) that states they have readings of 13.5 degrees below the ambient temperature at the different pitstops.
Just depends on whose story you believe.
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« Reply #653 on: October 22, 2007, 11:41:32 AM » |
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And yet there are reports on other websites (BBC is one) that states they have readings of 13.5 degrees below the ambient temperature at the different pitstops.
Just depends on whose story you believe.
-3 degrees under is a lot. They've been cheating basically. Let the nice mixed race - good looking - English bloke win. |
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« Reply #654 on: October 22, 2007, 11:49:34 AM » |
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I really hope that the appeal from Mclaren will not affect the fact that Kimi is the new champion.I think it would be unfortunate if the decision is going to be change because I think Kimi truly deserve it.
You said that stupid Spanish prick deserved it last week... Yes but right now if the decision to award Kimi as the champion is overturn by this tragic news,it will do nothing good on Alonso so theres no point.Hamilton struggled in the last race and he dont deserve to be the champion.If Alonso can managed to finish in 3rd place under the same circumstances,then I dont see any reason why Lewis cant do the same.And it is only right to let the current decision stay on. ok, so why couldn't Alonso do what Hamilton did for the first half of the season then? |
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« Reply #655 on: October 22, 2007, 11:56:51 AM » |
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And yet there are reports on other websites (BBC is one) that states they have readings of 13.5 degrees below the ambient temperature at the different pitstops.
Just depends on whose story you believe.
Yeah I'd rather believe BBC than race stewards' offical statement |
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« Reply #656 on: October 22, 2007, 11:59:38 AM » |
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« Reply #657 on: October 22, 2007, 05:56:12 PM » |
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Seen Alonso's comments? "If he wins the title because of this it wouldn't be fair. I'd be embarrassed for this sport.
"McLaren got it wrong, they lost the championship for the mistaken decisions they made in the second part of the season.
"It isn't a secret that they haven't helped me much. It wasn't a very well-organised season from the point of view of the management.
"There was no sensation of being a team and the result speaks for itself.
"Each person will have to draw their own lessons from this season but if we had taken a different approach we would have obtained different results."
"In the last few races my hands and feet were tied. I had no power to make decisions. I had to race as they told me.
"McLaren lost and Ferrari did a better job than anyone else."
I agree about the sport becoming an embarrasment, it already is.....to a large degree due to this little fucker himself. Sat there and flat out lied about his involvement in getting info on other teams. He's got some face. |
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« Reply #658 on: October 22, 2007, 06:03:40 PM » |
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"If he wins the title because of this it wouldn't be fair. I'd be embarrassed for this sport.
"McLaren got it wrong, they lost the championship for the mistaken decisions they made in the second part of the season.
"It isn't a secret that they haven't helped me much. It wasn't a very well-organised season from the point of view of the management.
"There was no sensation of being a team and the result speaks for itself.
"Each person will have to draw their own lessons from this season but if we had taken a different approach we would have obtained different results."
"In the last few races my hands and feet were tied. I had no power to make decisions. I had to race as they told me.
"McLaren lost and Ferrari did a better job than anyone else."
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« Reply #659 on: October 22, 2007, 06:31:47 PM » |
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Can't see them taking the championship away from a Ferrari driver
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« Reply #660 on: October 22, 2007, 06:34:49 PM » |
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Ain't going to happen.
Surprised that people seem to have forgotten just how dodgy Ferrari are and just how little they ever get done for it. Where have you lot been for the last 10 years!?!
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« Reply #661 on: October 23, 2007, 03:48:38 AM » |
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I really hope that the appeal from Mclaren will not affect the fact that Kimi is the new champion.I think it would be unfortunate if the decision is going to be change because I think Kimi truly deserve it.
You said that stupid Spanish prick deserved it last week... Yes but right now if the decision to award Kimi as the champion is overturn by this tragic news,it will do nothing good on Alonso so theres no point.Hamilton struggled in the last race and he dont deserve to be the champion.If Alonso can managed to finish in 3rd place under the same circumstances,then I dont see any reason why Lewis cant do the same.And it is only right to let the current decision stay on. ok, so why couldn't Alonso do what Hamilton did for the first half of the season then? Because Mcclaren favours Hamilton more than Alonso.And I totally agree with everything that has been said by Alonso there. |
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« Reply #662 on: October 23, 2007, 11:09:11 AM » |
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The gear problem was Hamilton's own fault. He pressed the wrong button  Poor lad obviously can't handle pressure..... |
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« Reply #663 on: October 23, 2007, 06:27:23 PM » |
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McLaren appealing.
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« Reply #664 on: October 24, 2007, 06:10:42 PM » |
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« Reply #665 on: October 24, 2007, 08:14:03 PM » |
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For the first time there is going to be a night race next season should be interesting. |
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« Reply #666 on: October 27, 2007, 09:10:29 AM » |
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Kimi hard work?
Now i know you are making it up.
All he is, is a party boy doing the bare minimum as possible.
And this is based on what? A far greater knowledge of the sport than you obviously. You consider the stuff you read from the crappy sensation magazines knowledge? |
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« Reply #667 on: October 27, 2007, 01:56:35 PM » |
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Kimi hard work?
Now i know you are making it up.
All he is, is a party boy doing the bare minimum as possible.
And this is based on what? A far greater knowledge of the sport than you obviously. You consider the stuff you read from the crappy sensation magazines knowledge? I don't read mags, i simply don't have time. My opinion is based from many years following the sport, listening to the people who matter. You should try it sometime. |
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« Reply #668 on: October 27, 2007, 02:22:27 PM » |
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For the first time there is going to be a night race next season should be interesting. Last corner, Hamilton leading, Alonso second - right on his tail.... Alonso quickly puts on the full beams, wham Lewis on the grass. One-Nil |
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« Reply #669 on: October 27, 2007, 06:11:47 PM » |
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Kimi hard work?
Now i know you are making it up.
All he is, is a party boy doing the bare minimum as possible.
And this is based on what? A far greater knowledge of the sport than you obviously. You consider the stuff you read from the crappy sensation magazines knowledge? I don't read mags, i simply don't have time. My opinion is based from many years following the sport, listening to the people who matter. You should try it sometime. Sure, whatever since it's kinda useless to discuss his motivation. Kimi is the world champion and Ron Dennis' crybaby pooped his pants |
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« Reply #670 on: October 27, 2007, 07:56:28 PM » |
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If anyones interested, it seems that Kovalainen will be partnering Hamilton at McLaren next season. Bumped into Anthony Hamilton today, and couldn't resist asking him some questions. Very friendly bloke all round, and he seems to be under the impression its Kovalainen, and if not, then probably Rosberg who'll be partnering Lewis next year.
Doesn't seem to be any online betting places taking bets on it though
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« Reply #671 on: October 28, 2007, 02:24:07 PM » |
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Kimi hard work?
Now i know you are making it up.
All he is, is a party boy doing the bare minimum as possible.
And this is based on what? A far greater knowledge of the sport than you obviously. You consider the stuff you read from the crappy sensation magazines knowledge? I don't read mags, i simply don't have time. My opinion is based from many years following the sport, listening to the people who matter. You should try it sometime. Sure, whatever since it's kinda useless to discuss his motivation. Kimi is the world champion and Ron Dennis' crybaby pooped his pants Really shows the level of your intelligence that post. Well done, you should be proud. |
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