On Channel 4 now.  Some powerful images.  I still get goosebumps watching those planes fly in.  Say what you like about it, but nothing will ever match the visual impact that day created. 

Worth a watch, different perspective from the hero view.  Apparently news agencies refused to show people jumping, due to them being 'negative images'. 

Anyway, turn it on. 

Fair enough, was what it said though.  But it also meant from there on in.  There was photos of those jumping the day after, but then they were never seen again after that. 

Ah forgot about this, really wanna watch it but im nicely settled and me remote is not to be found, me tele is not tuned in and me aerial is unplugged, and Father Ted is on

How old are you like?  Do you think you've been desensitised to really shocking events by violence in the media?

I thought I had been, I can stomach a lot of what's on the news that my parents find repellent, but those images give me butterflies in my stomach, a sickly feeling.  They're horrible.

I find them impossible to watch without a shiver going down my spine.

I can't imagine what it was like watching live. Seeing the towers burning then the footage after I came in from school was one thing, but live must have been much more horrific. My mam and my grandma had been out during it and my grandad was in on his own. When they got back, they said he couldn't speak for an hour, he was so shaken up.

Footage featured here:

https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,16650.0.html

Poor Rebellious never got any replies to this but I watched them and it's interesting stuff. I am the type of person who likes a so-called "conspiracy theory" and although much of the speculation involving the American government seems too far fetched in places even for me, there are questions that need answering and things that just don't add up.

I think its beautiful identifieing the falling man myself. I think his family should look at it differently as well. (if it was nolberto mind, they seem to be suggesting it wasn't now)

i also think it was an extremley brave and noble way to go.

Cheers mate, I am in to it too.

I wont cancel out the possibility of anything. I believe the government klnow something with all this talk of bombs and setting up and the fact that FBI agents apparently found the black boxes from the planes and then told everyone that they hadn't.

The way George Bush reacted as well. He was in a school reading with kids at the time I think. I am sure that any decent man who was in his position would have done something. Someone whispers in your ear that one of the biggest towers in the world has had a plane crash into it killing hundreds, I think if he was not involved, he would have done something. But he just sat there and carried on reading. He either was in on it or he has no heart.

Jonny, just got this from a mate.  You might like it:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xs51xKHUnNs

This is worth a watch too - https://www.iwilltryit.com/griffin1.htm

This is interesting as well:

https://www.freepressinternational.com/collapse_121904_wtc911_928g10044691.html

its broadcast on American News. It is a NY official telling everyone that the tower was going to collapse. Could just have thought it might have but interesting.

https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness - Not watched it yet, but me mate says it clearly shows explosions before the collapse.  It's taken from the other side of the river.  It's 1 hour 45 minutes though.  A proper analysis.

Apparently won an Oscar.

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