N-O Panel: Newcastle United 1-1 Middlesbrough
By Jonny Hall On Thu 7 Feb 2008 |
Newcastle finally scored their first goal under Kevin Keegan on Sunday afternoon, only to lose the lead some time later and be lucky to escape with a point. Dissallowed goals were the topic of the day, with one at the very beginning and at the end as well. We got the panel’s reaction to a controversial day on Tyneside…
Rich
“These days I can usually take results like the one on Sunday with nothing more than a swift shake of the head, but when it’s against the Toxic Monsters from the Riverside then I struggle – big-style – especially in circumstances like those I witnessed from the Gallowgate on Sunday afternoon. One perfectly good disallowed goal from Michael Owen a mere four minutes from the start of the match followed by one infuriatingly bad allowed goal from Robert Huth four minutes from the end. I could have crushed a grape.
Middlesbrough never used to really register with me, because I didn’t really used to know any of their fans, but for a team with such a small-time appearance they frustrated me by merely being in the Premiership. They frustrated me by seeing their game against us as the biggest of their season (when they weren’t infuriating me by winning Leage Cup finals, mind!) I put ‘Boro into the same bracket as the likes of Wigan and Bolton, plastic teams with plastic stadiums and no fans – not clubs fit for the Premiership when you have clubs like Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest and Leeds in the lower divisions.
So that’s why Sunday annoyed me so much. The ‘Boro fans were jumping around like idiots at 1-0, so when the inevitable (and illegal) equaliser inevitably came they went delirious and probably rightly so. Had the linesman on the East Stand side not sorted his act out in the final moments, then they might have even snuck it 1-2! But to be fair to the bloke, he got that one right as two Smoggies were again offside in the eighteen yard box.
Apart from the frustration of the result and the perennial annoyance of the Teesiders being allowed to enter a proper stadium in the North East, there was a lot of positive stuff to take from the game. Emre returned and looked bright, getting another assist, Michael Owen broke his mini scoring duck and looked busy and involved and Joey Barton returned from whatever he’s been doing since being in jail and played a big part too. Charles N’Zogbia was the real standout though – not for the first time – and it’s a massive blow that he’ll miss out at Villa on Saturday. Duff looked better than he has before and Smith toiled manfully against their gigantic backline… but Nicky Butt, unfortunately, was appalling.
I said prior to the game that we were due some luck against this lot after some of the events of recent years – Hasselbaink’s hand and the farce of the “icey approaches†being the two things that spring immediately to mind – but we didn’t get any at all and were again shafted by the men in the red shirts… and the blokes in green. One day though, things will turn, and if a few decisions go our way in the space of 90 minutes then we’ll give this lot the pasting they’ve deserved for a good long while now. They are, quite frankly, a crap team with two monsters in central defence – the Chemical Brothers as they’ll hopefully be known from now on – and if they stay up then let’s hope we take more than 2 points off them next season.
Man of the Match: Charles N’Zogbia.”
Jonny
“It was a day of defensive errors that (arguably) cost us our first three points under KK.
As a qualified referee myself, I was disgusted at the display shown by Mike Dean and his two officials. It is occaisons like this which call for the introduction of video technology into our current game to try and take away this element of mistakes from football. When your in some trouble like Newcastle are at the minute, you look for luck and the decisions to go your way, and over the past few games that simply hasn’t happened.
Kalou was not flagged in the final minutes at Stamford Bridge when we were close to a point, at Old Trafford we should have taken the lead through Owen’s classy finish which was wrongfully ruled off and against the Boro, Owen again had a goal dissallowed again for impeding, despite not even touching the keeper in the buildup to the ‘goal’.
Add to that the fact that Newcastle probably should have had a penalty for deliberate handball, the fact that the Middlesbrough equaliser was in itself not ruled out for offside and Mike Dean’s general whistle-play throughout the entire game, you begin to wonder whether they let any old sap referee these days.
At the end of the day, they are in a position where decisions have to be made and they have to be correct. Call it being picky and looking for excuses, but with the controversial decisions made on the Sunday, rather than 1-1, the game could easily have finished 3-1/3-2 in Newcastle’s favour. And then we wouldn’t have been complaining.
We’re getting there but we’re hopping over the finish line. Roll on Villa.
MOTM: For some of his goal-saving tackles and interceptions, Claudio Cacapa.”

More hindsight for you Boro fans….
Seeing as you now look highly unlikely to have one of your rare finishes above us in the league, have you cancelled the open top bus?
I choose to end with a quote from “Peterfromredcar”.
2008
we are about to overtake you in the league again and are on course to reach at least the quarters of the FA cup again (maybe even make our 6th major final in 11 years)
Whats the word? Oh. yes. “Snigger”.
Sent in on: April 24th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Hind-sight is a fabulous thing.
Boro are off to Wembley after their easy win over Cardif…. Snigger…..
Sent in on: March 10th, 2008 at 11:35 am
I have never said M’boro is in the North East… I have always said and will always say… Its in Yorkshire!
Your nothing to do with us.
Sent in on: February 17th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Peterfromredcar seems to be on a SMOG induced trip…
It must be powerful stuff..
Horrible place.
HORRIBLE……
Sent in on: February 17th, 2008 at 11:12 am
its amazing how all season long all the geordies i know have been telling me how we were going to be the THIRD best team in the north east and now we are clearly a better team than you, we are no longer even in the North East! But i will agree with you that we are not only the best team in the North East but Gods country as well.
We have now got a great team together, unbeaten in our last 7 games, unbeaten in 7 away matches and when we beat Sheffield tomorrow we will only be 2 wins away from a place in Europe - again!
and all this without our new £12m Brazilian striker!
Who are you playing this weekend?
Oh sorry, i forgot, your season always ends in January. Though maybe it might not be, as Sunderland will go ahead of you when they beat Derby in 2 weeks, Bolton will soon go ahead of you and if you lose at Brum, THEY will go ahead of you too.
It could come down to your last few games as to whether you stop up or not (away to Portsmouth, West Ham and Everton, home to Chelsea and the mackems - how they would love to put another nail in your coffin). Already the bookies are not only offering odds on the Mags going down but also on whether they will win another game this season!
The rest of the country thinks it beggers belief when a team like Newcastle dont spend any money in the transfer window and yet a small, but BEST TEAM IN THE NORTH EAST can spend big money to bring a Brazilian centre forward in.
Once again you have a poor chairman (thank god we’ve got the best one in the league) who takes a knee jerk reaction to the boo boys in the crowd and installs a ‘yesterdays man’ as manager.
He has now gone 5 games without a win and that will no doubt be added to by the next 3 games against Man U, Blackburn and Liverpool
He looks totally lost as a manager
He’s not the Messiah - he’s a very naughty boy!
Still i do think you will win a lot more games next season - as you will probably be playing against Doncaster and Carlisle.
And the Boro will be the top team in the NORTH EAST ……….. again!!!!!!!!
Sent in on: February 16th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Oh, and by the way, “PetefromRedcar”.
We are better than Sunderland. Therefore we are the best team in the North East.
Boro are (marginally) better than Sheffield United (although we’ll see on Sunday) so Boro are the best team in Yorkshire.
However, we are better than Yorkshire’s best team, as the world at large (save for 12,000 typically small minded Boro yobs) agrees Newcastle were robbed and Boro utterly got away with it.
And I really wouldn’t be advertising on the Internet that “i was on holiday in France and i was talking to a teenage boy” if I were you. The police may want to get in contact with you about that kind of thing.
Sent in on: February 15th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Well Boro,
Yous boys certainly have evolved in your communication methods, IE posting views on other fans websites, well done…
I remember going on a Toon travel trip in the mid 90Å¡ when your fans were punching woman and children in the face as they departed from our coach..
Horrible people..
Sent in on: February 14th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
simple players we have are rubbish.easy to sort out do.we already have one star winger duff,milner not good enough.splash out 15 to 18 mill on a top class right mid.invest heavily on a world class centre attacking midfielder like aimar,rafael van der vaart,deco if he’ll come around 20 mill.and theres are defence.two centre backs for 10 mill each.stay away from defenders from the french league ther rubbish.newcastle have learnt that the hard way boumsong and those two new clowns.the french league is very poor.search italy,maybe defenders who are not getting into the first teams like inter or milan.we can snap them up.we can save money by not buying new forwards there pretty good just not getting and service.barton and butt in mid weres the creativity.keagan can easily turn things around.look at sven he just has the right players hes not the best manager in the world.
Sent in on: February 10th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
I think peterfromredcar made some valid points that a lot of us need to accept before we can move forward as a club. Keegan & the team will keep us up this year, but that’s about it.
Then in the summer we have to try to build a team capable of chasing a European spot, but it wont be easy. Prospective players will know that we will fill the stadium every match, we pay well & have a lot of the ingredients to be successful in the future, but so do the clubs we’ll be competing for signatures with & they’ll be offering European footy already.
But we have Keegan & so I still have high hopes for a miracle (European qualification) next season.
Sent in on: February 10th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Just been watching the opening of “Sports Saturday” on Sky, and the unanimous decision of the panel is Boro really got away with it.
Even Geordie hating Phil Thompson says we were robbed. Nuff said.
I also enjoy the evidence from “Peterfromredcar”. Brilliant.
2004… Newcastle finish 5th, unluckily missing out on Champs League football and Boro find a 10p coin down the back of the sofa… Top Team BORO
2005…Newcastle finish mid table and “The Chemical workers Arms” wins the North Yorkshire 5-a-side… Top Team BORO
2006… Newcastle qualify for the intertoto, while Boro get the luckiest run to the final ever seen in UEFA cup history, then get a spanking the first time they meet a proper team and all of Europe laughs at them. They also get a fiver from a pack of crisps. Top team BORO
2007
Newcastle finish 13th
Boro finish 12th and reach quarters in FA cup
TOP TEAM - BORO
(You’ll notice I haven’t changed this one. Its HILARIOUS. Best clutching at straws I’ve ever seen)
2008 - Newcastle get bought by a billionaire, and Boro get flukey, dodgy last minute equalisers twice. Boro also opens its first Primark as the local economy improves and average wages go up. Top Team - Boro.
The simple truth is that with your single ever season in Europe (yet you think it funny when we have to sneak in the Intertoto?!?!?!) and one tin pot cup, you are nothing compared to Newcastle United.
From this coming summer our clubs will take very different paths as our club is restructured and invested in to compete with the worlds top teams on an even footing. And you will hark back to glorious days like these of “remember Huth’s offside equaliser when we got a whole point? Those were the days”. Know your place.
Sent in on: February 9th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Its unbeleivable that so many smoggies spend their time looking at our websites whats wrong with there own - too crap I expect.
As for Mike Deans performance if I showed that level of incompetence in my job I would be sacked!
We have to keep plugging away and things will turn - lets make it to the summer and regroup and bring in new blood.
Keep the Faith!!!
Sent in on: February 8th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
when KK was in charge last time i had Newcastle as my ‘favourite 2nd team’ as they played brilliantly and were so entertaining. But that was last Millennium! You Geordie fans are making normal football fans like me start to hate Newcastle. Not because of anything on the pitch but the obnoxious arrogance of the fans.
Like Leeds, you used to have a good team but now you are very average and not particularly entertaining, but unlike Leeds fans you seem to think youare still one of the ‘big 4′.
When you say that only ‘big’ clubs should be allowed in the premiership you presume this means big support. Leeds are getting great support but are a poor team. A ‘big’ team is judged by its performance on the pitch.
look at who has been the ‘biggest’ team in recent years -
2004
Newcastle qualify for Uefa cup
Boro win Carling cup (and qualify for Uefa cup)
TOP TEAM - BORO
2005
Newcastle finish 14th
Boro finish 7th and qualify for Uefa cup
TOP TEAM - BORO
2006
Newcastle qualify for Intertoto cup (snigger!)
Boro reach quarters in Carling cup, semis in FA cup and reach final of Uefa cup.
TOP TEAM - BORO
2007
Newcastle finish 13th
Boro finish 12th and reach quarters in FA cup
TOP TEAM - BORO
2008
we are about to overtake you in the league again and are on course to reach at least the quarters of the FA cup again (maybe even make our 6th major final in 11 years)
TOP TEAM - HAVE YOU SEEN A SEQUENCE HERE?
Your arrogance in thinking you are a ‘big’ club and therefore deserve to be in the premiership is staggering - you are not even the biggest club in the north east.
This was proved to me last year when i was on holiday in France and i was talking to a teenage boy who said he only knew 5 clubs from England,
Man utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and BORO.
So whos the ‘big’ club now?
Sent in on: February 8th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Good lord! Where do I start!?!?!?
Boro fans - Biased match reports? Comments from Geordie’s? Anyone would think that this was a Newcastle fans site! Good lord!
Hang on? Whats that you say? I’m NOT on the BBC football section? This really is a Newcastle fans site? Gosh!
Now - for the match.
I think claims from Boro fans that they dictated the game and should have won are somewhat wide of the mark.
In total, we had the ball in the net four times, and they have the ball in the net twice.
Some of these were ruled out correctly. Some weren’t.
Owen’s opener should have stood - fact.
The 2nd time we had the ball in the net was correctly ruled out (corner drifted out). As an aside - This would be a goal at Old Trafford though, no doubt. Imagine its a Giggs corner in front of the Stretford end and Tevez heads it in. (Boro fans - don’t sarcastically say I’m saying “We would have won if we were Man U”. I’m not)
Duff’s goal / Boro’s “winner” - There are a lot of Boro fans forgetting that Duff’s strike was arguably as “off side” as the 2nd time Boro had the ball in the net. I didn’t see any “daylight” (as is now the rule) for either to be honest. But all you Boro fans seem to have strangely forgotten Duff’s goal was as legitimate as Boro’s “winner”. How biased of you! Gosh!
Our goal - Arguable free kick. Could have gone either way. Although its fair as Owen’s 1st was ruled out!
The “penalty” - Seen them given, seem them not given. (An “Old Trafford” penalty, as I call them).
Boro’s goal - A case of this crudy interfering with play rule. Huth was onside. Two Boro players weren’t. Had these two Boro players been stood by the corner flag they wouldn’t have been interfering. However, these two Boro players were in the 6 yard box, jostling for position, getting in the way of our defenders and getting attention from our defenders and Given. That, my Boro friends, is interfering with play!!!! No way that should have stood.
The ref though, in fairness, was a complete tool. Some very poor decisions.
Had the 4th minute Owen goal stood, our tails would have been up and we’d probably have gone on to give Boro a thrashing. We should have won the game anyway, and the ref really let Boro get away with it.
On another note I feel not buying anyone in January was utterly daft. If we were so keen on Woodgate and Defoe, why did they move elsewhere without us putting up a fight????? We failed to get anyone in, and I honestly can’t see where our next three points is coming from.
For a team of our aspiration and ambition (As Mr Ashley sets out), the likes of Boro *should* at home should be an easy three points. But it certainly wasn’t.
Mr Ashley WILL have to spend a lot in the Summer if he wants a team that can “Attack Man Utd” and thrash any of the teams he listed in his quote. In fact, Mr Ashley, you should have spent a few bob in January if you wanted a team that could turn Boro over.
Sent in on: February 8th, 2008 at 10:38 am
ladies and gentlemen…a jawdee
Sent in on: February 8th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Gareth, there was a link on FMTTM so of course we’ll defend ourselves.
Sent in on: February 8th, 2008 at 3:00 am
Newcastle used to be a respected club and I believe there was a genuine feeling in days gone by even in M’bro that it was about time you lot won something. My Dad’s supported Newcastle all his life as his family were from Northumberland. I remember watching the 1974 Cup Final on TV with him when I was a kid & being gutted at the result.
Something’s changed with the Geordies in recent years. You’ve become bitter, frustrated and so snobbish it is unbelievable. Of course you’re bigger than Boro, of course you have a beautiful city not an industrial ‘new town’, of course your catchment is 3 times the size. This endless self-importance stuff is why you have become a joke & wear the deluded tag. Please restore some dignity to yourselves and stop this crap at least for the sake of my old man and his.
MFC is the least plastic club in the league. It is a genuine town club, battling for 130 years. A great Premiership record and fought back from the brink with local people in 1986. We finished above you last season and will again this. I want you to do well but when I hear stuff like this I want you out and relegated.
Sent in on: February 8th, 2008 at 2:53 am
It’s amazing how many Middlesborough fans spend time on websites devoted to Newcastle….
Sent in on: February 8th, 2008 at 1:21 am
Good job you don’t care about us!
Have a look at the lopsided monstrosity that is YOUR stadium before rubbishing ours. Still it’s nice and quiet and easy to get away from afterwards I suppose!
A few “facts” for you lovely deluded people.
1. Michael Owen put his hand up as he challenged Schwarzer, for his disallowed “goal” - easy decision for the ref.
2. Young played the ball not N’zogbia for the freekick given leading to the MO goal, oh and Nicky Butt fouled Young (who was marking MO) to allow him to score.
3. Pogatetz “deliberate handball” was behind his back, nifty trick to do that deliberately.
4. Aliadiere’s winner that never was was so close a decision MOTD had to use a computer simulation to “prove” he was offside. I reckon we unlucky to not be given that. Both Aliadiere and O’neill were wrongly flagged off by the same Official who seemed to be a little “aware of where he was” shall we say.
5. As for the offside on DGL the FA probably need to clear up the offside rule on this. But under the current interpretation he was not active as he didn’t touch the ball (which I agree is ridiculous)
6. As for unlucky have a look at some of the stats we had twice as many shots as you and twice as many on target.
7. We dictated the way in which the game was played since we did not have any other fit strikers to fill out our usual formation.
8. Don’t be so bitter life is short enough as it is. Relax. Chill
Bye
Sent in on: February 7th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
You sad deluded angry man with your wonky ground and gawdee jeans
Sent in on: February 7th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
You forget to mention , the goal you scored was from a free kick that wasn’t a free kick. Don’t let that stop you getting more wound up by the minute you jealous man.
Sent in on: February 7th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Congratulations! You epitimise the stereo-type Geordie so loathed not only by Boro fans but increasingly by football fans in general.Your elitism is based on what? Success in the league? Don’t think so. Success in cup competitions? Don’t think so. A string of world class players donning the black and white shirt? Don’t think so. Your loyalty to your managers? Don’t think so.
You, like so many others are in denial. Denial that you arn’t the big club you clam to be - everybody else has seen through that myth.
And your way of dealing with this denial? Have a pop at a team you class as small and inferior. So inferior that if results go a certain way another small club will be above you in the league.
You and others need a reality check. You arn’t a good team, the Keegan magic from yesteryear will not work this time around as the simplistic game he likes playing has been replaced by sophistication by true top teams.
so you are a long, long way from being a good Premiership team - let alone a top one - deal with it.
Sent in on: February 7th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
While I don’t feel the same way about the smogs as Rich (they have earned the right, just the same way we did to play in the Prem), I do completely agree with both summations of the game. We woz robbed.
True final score 3-1 Newcastle.
I am again encouraged by the Toons continued improvement in performance.
Sent in on: February 7th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
You (Rich) refer to Wigan, the Smogs etc as plastic teams. Well, NUFC are the team with an owner who has suddenly become “one of the lads”, in his replica top, buying the “lads” a round in the pub, hauling in the Ghost of Christmas past to manage the team, whilst appointing Denis Wise as a Director of Football.
Well, there is one team in the North East that brings local lads through and developes them into first team players. A team that fielded an entire academy 11 in the premiership last year. A team with strong community links, and a local chairman who is a genuine fan of the club. If that’s a plastic club, well, that’s the kind of club I support.
NUFC fans suffer from a peculiar form of hubris that seems to infect their entire outlook on football matters.
Sent in on: February 7th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
A reasonable question - are non-NUFC (opposing) fans allowed a voice on this board ?
If so, more to follow - I can’t let drivel such as that wriiten by Rich above go without a balanced response (Rich you won’t be familiar with the term “balanced”, not looking through those black & white coloured specs of yours).
from a “Toxic Monster” !!
Sent in on: February 7th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
ha ha
Sent in on: February 7th, 2008 at 5:32 pm