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« Reply #125 on: October 27, 2007, 10:48:38 PM » |
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Keegan wasn't a failure here. A bottler, but not a failure.
what did he bottle ? He was always threatening to quit over one thing or another, in the end the going got tough so he jumped ship, he's never had the guts to see out a rough patch in any job he's had. I was a big fan of Keegan when I was younger but the day he went on telly and gave it the "I'd love it" speech I felt embarrassed for the bloke and knew it was men against boys as far as him and Fergie was concerned.Word. During Spurs' days of God awful managers and coaches, I admired Keegan as an example of a manager in contact with the players but also with the fans, the chat on the steps of SJP when Andy Cole went springs to mind. But his 'I'd love it' speech made me cringe, you couldn't imagine Fergie or Wenger losing it like that. To be a top manager you always have to be in control and Keegan had let the pressure get to him for that interview.
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« Reply #126 on: October 27, 2007, 10:53:28 PM » |
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He was always threatening to quit over one thing or another, in the end the going got tough so he jumped ship, he's never had the guts to see out a rough patch in any job he's had.
I was a big fan of Keegan when I was younger but the day he went on telly and gave it the "I'd love it" speech I felt embarrassed for the bloke and knew it was men against boys as far as him and Fergie was concerned.
I admired Keegan for his outburst about Fergie, the players should have watched it and ran through walls for him but they didn't, that was down to them not him.
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« Reply #127 on: October 27, 2007, 11:13:23 PM » |
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Keegan wasn't a failure here. A bottler, but not a failure.
what did he bottle ? He was always threatening to quit over one thing or another, in the end the going got tough so he jumped ship, he's never had the guts to see out a rough patch in any job he's had. I was a big fan of Keegan when I was younger but the day he went on telly and gave it the "I'd love it" speech I felt embarrassed for the bloke and knew it was men against boys as far as him and Fergie was concerned. never had the guts to see out a rough patch.......the patch finishing sixth after selling andy cole,facing the fans and bringing in kitson was rougher than the one where he resigned. we really don't know why he resigned,keegans story changes and dougie hall claimed he got rid of him......what makes you so sure you know the truth ?
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« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2007, 04:58:41 AM » |
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Why Keegan ever left us will always remain a mystery to me.
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« Reply #129 on: October 28, 2007, 03:13:27 PM » |
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Keegan wasn't a failure here. A bottler, but not a failure.
what did he bottle ? He was always threatening to quit over one thing or another, in the end the going got tough so he jumped ship, he's never had the guts to see out a rough patch in any job he's had. I was a big fan of Keegan when I was younger but the day he went on telly and gave it the "I'd love it" speech I felt embarrassed for the bloke and knew it was men against boys as far as him and Fergie was concerned. Word. During Spurs' days of God awful managers and coaches, I admired Keegan as an example of a manager in contact with the players but also with the fans, the chat on the steps of SJP when Andy Cole went springs to mind. But his 'I'd love it' speech made me cringe, you couldn't imagine Fergie or Wenger losing it like that. To be a top manager you always have to be in control and Keegan had let the pressure get to him for that interview. You didn't, did you? Oh dear you did... 
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« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2007, 04:20:54 PM » |
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Keegan wasn't a failure here. A bottler, but not a failure.
what did he bottle ? He was always threatening to quit over one thing or another, in the end the going got tough so he jumped ship, he's never had the guts to see out a rough patch in any job he's had. I was a big fan of Keegan when I was younger but the day he went on telly and gave it the "I'd love it" speech I felt embarrassed for the bloke and knew it was men against boys as far as him and Fergie was concerned. never had the guts to see out a rough patch.......the patch finishing sixth after selling andy cole,facing the fans and bringing in kitson was rougher than the one where he resigned. we really don't know why he resigned,keegans story changes and dougie hall claimed he got rid of him......what makes you so sure you know the truth ? Or when he actually took over the job in itself with the position we were in.
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« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2007, 04:44:40 PM » |
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Keegan wasn't a failure here. A bottler, but not a failure.
what did he bottle ? He was always threatening to quit over one thing or another, in the end the going got tough so he jumped ship, he's never had the guts to see out a rough patch in any job he's had. I was a big fan of Keegan when I was younger but the day he went on telly and gave it the "I'd love it" speech I felt embarrassed for the bloke and knew it was men against boys as far as him and Fergie was concerned. never had the guts to see out a rough patch.......the patch finishing sixth after selling andy cole,facing the fans and bringing in kitson was rougher than the one where he resigned. we really don't know why he resigned,keegans story changes and dougie hall claimed he got rid of him......what makes you so sure you know the truth ? I don't know the truth, neither do you, I can only form an opinion and Keegan walking out on us proved him to be gutless when the pressure was on IMO, read his book if you want to know how the pressure got to him at the time, when the going got tough Keegan has walked away more often than not throughout his managerial career.
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« Reply #132 on: October 28, 2007, 07:23:44 PM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
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« Reply #134 on: October 29, 2007, 12:00:47 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
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« Reply #135 on: October 29, 2007, 12:23:27 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too.
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« Reply #136 on: October 29, 2007, 12:26:16 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. like i've posted earlier re cole selling etc ?
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« Reply #137 on: October 29, 2007, 12:26:35 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. Despite almost always disagreeing with you i go along with this, has Keegan ever been sacked? It always seems to me he goes when he's had enough and gives in when the going gets tough.
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. like i've posted earlier re cole selling etc ? He sold Cole because he wanted Ferdinand and Gillespie, QPR f***** the club around though so we had to wait until the summer, he spent £14 million that summer, £11 million around the January and broke the World record transfer fee the following summer. £40 million in a little over 12 months was never heard of in English football at the time so don't make out he had it hard because he didn't.
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« Reply #139 on: October 29, 2007, 12:36:58 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. Despite almost always disagreeing with you i go along with this, has Keegan ever been sacked? It always seems to me he goes when he's had enough and gives in when the going gets tough. aye mate, sure. Its really tough at the top like See your own question in bold, BTW
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« Reply #140 on: October 29, 2007, 12:39:54 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. like i've posted earlier re cole selling etc ? He sold Cole because he wanted Ferdinand and Gillespie, QPR f***** the club around though so we had to wait until the summer, he spent £14 million that summer, £11 million around the January and broke the World record transfer fee the following summer. £40 million in a little over 12 months was never heard of in English football at the time so don't make out he had it hard because he didn't. and don't you just wish that we were back right in the thick of the challenge for the premiership ?
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Keegan had the boot from Man City after telling everyone that he was leaving at the end of the season because he had had enough, coincidentally it was at the time when Man City had to tighten the purse strings because he had nearly bankrupt them.
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« Reply #142 on: October 29, 2007, 12:43:17 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. like i've posted earlier re cole selling etc ? He sold Cole because he wanted Ferdinand and Gillespie, QPR f***** the club around though so we had to wait until the summer, he spent £14 million that summer, £11 million around the January and broke the World record transfer fee the following summer. £40 million in a little over 12 months was never heard of in English football at the time so don't make out he had it hard because he didn't. and don't you just wish that we were back right in the thick of the challenge for the premiership ? That goes without saying, not sure what point you're trying to make there though.
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« Reply #143 on: October 29, 2007, 12:48:38 AM » |
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He was always threatening to quit over one thing or another, in the end the going got tough so he jumped ship, he's never had the guts to see out a rough patch in any job he's had.
I was a big fan of Keegan when I was younger but the day he went on telly and gave it the "I'd love it" speech I felt embarrassed for the bloke and knew it was men against boys as far as him and Fergie was concerned.
I admired Keegan for his outburst about Fergie, the players should have watched it and ran through walls for him but they didn't, that was down to them not him.  I was a kid then but I identified with how he felt. He was a fan, just like the rest of us were.
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« Reply #144 on: October 29, 2007, 12:54:26 AM » |
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Keegan had the boot from Man City after telling everyone that he was leaving at the end of the season because he had had enough, coincidentally it was at the time when Man City had to tighten the purse strings because he had nearly bankrupt them.
he has had health problems too. He did leave Man City in a much better position than when he joined BTW, the same as he did Fulham. The hopeless Stuart Pearce who took over was taking the club backwards, from what Keegan left him. Beats me what people ever saw in Pearce, he was s*** with Notts Forest. Jumping around on the touchline like a monkey with ants in his pants doesn't make a good manager, its all he ever seemed to do to me. Back to Keegan. My own opinion is that he has just not been the same since leaving Newcastle. The job was the right one for him, and he never managed England or anyone else in the same manner, because he tried to adapt to please people rather than stick to managing in the way he was best. I think it is very sad that some NUFC supporters demean what he did for the club. The 5 years he spent were something not to be missed, and without a shadow of doubt is by far the best 5 years that I have had supporting this club in over 40 years. I wouldn't have missed them for the world. Its an absolute tragedy that he didn't win a cup to top it all, but he will forever remain to me, as the guy who gave us the most magical period I've experienced, and laid all the foundation for what the club is now. We lived at the top table, challenging for the title, with the other big guns. And if we never do it again, and I'm not denying that we should be doing it all the time, the fact is that he is the only person since the 1950's who really showed us what it was like.
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« Reply #145 on: October 29, 2007, 12:54:29 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. like i've posted earlier re cole selling etc ? He sold Cole because he wanted Ferdinand and Gillespie, QPR f***** the club around though so we had to wait until the summer, he spent £14 million that summer, £11 million around the January and broke the World record transfer fee the following summer. £40 million in a little over 12 months was never heard of in English football at the time so don't make out he had it hard because he didn't. yes and like i've said after dropping to sixth and selling cole,facing the fans on the steps of SJP you'd think that was more pressure than that under which he left ?
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. like i've posted earlier re cole selling etc ? He sold Cole because he wanted Ferdinand and Gillespie, QPR f***** the club around though so we had to wait until the summer, he spent £14 million that summer, £11 million around the January and broke the World record transfer fee the following summer. £40 million in a little over 12 months was never heard of in English football at the time so don't make out he had it hard because he didn't. yes and like i've said after dropping to sixth and selling cole,facing the fans on the steps of SJP you'd think that was more pressure than that under which he left ? It was a different pressure selling Cole, it was a risk that he was happy to take to get a better player in Les Ferdinand but the decision was always his, when the money dried up (something out of his hands) and he'd have to manage the club like every other club manager in the division he didn't want any of it.
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« Reply #147 on: October 29, 2007, 01:02:59 AM » |
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Keegan had the boot from Man City after telling everyone that he was leaving at the end of the season because he had had enough, coincidentally it was at the time when Man City had to tighten the purse strings because he had nearly bankrupt them.
he has had health problems too. He did leave Man City in a much better position than when he joined BTW, the same as he did Fulham. The hopeless Stuart Pearce who took over was taking the club backwards, from what Keegan left him. Beats me what people ever saw in Pearce, he was s*** with Notts Forest. Jumping around on the touchline like a monkey with ants in his pants doesn't make a good manager, its all he ever seemed to do to me. Back to Keegan. My own opinion is that he has just not been the same since leaving Newcastle. The job was the right one for him, and he never managed England or anyone else in the same manner, because he tried to adapt to please people rather than stick to managing in the way he was best. I think it is very sad that some NUFC supporters demean what he did for the club. The 5 years he spent were something not to be missed, and without a shadow of doubt is by far the best 5 years that I have had supporting this club in over 40 years. I wouldn't have missed them for the world. Its an absolute tragedy that he didn't win a cup to top it all, but he will forever remain to me, as the guy who gave us the most magical period I've experienced, and laid all the foundation for what the club is now. We lived at the top table, challenging for the title, with the other big guns. And if we never do it again, and I'm not denying that we should be doing it all the time, the fact is that he is the only person since the 1950's who really showed us what it was like, and elevated us to that level. First of all I've never put down what he done for the club, that doesn't mean he's above criticism for the way he walked out on the club because the transfer fund dried up and he knew he'd have to run the club like every other manager has to in the Premiership.
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« Reply #148 on: October 29, 2007, 01:05:05 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. like i've posted earlier re cole selling etc ? He sold Cole because he wanted Ferdinand and Gillespie, QPR f***** the club around though so we had to wait until the summer, he spent £14 million that summer, £11 million around the January and broke the World record transfer fee the following summer. £40 million in a little over 12 months was never heard of in English football at the time so don't make out he had it hard because he didn't. yes and like i've said after dropping to sixth and selling cole,facing the fans on the steps of SJP you'd think that was more pressure than that under which he left ? It was a different pressure selling Cole, it was a risk that he was happy to take to get a better player in Les Ferdinand but the decision was always his, when the money dried up (something out of his hands) and he'd have to manage the club like every other club manager in the division he didn't want any of it. could have waited till the summer to sell cole etc...you paint a very black and white (forgive the pun)picture of the situation,as i've already stated keegan gives several different versions of why he left and dougie hall reckoned he kicked him out,why do you presume your theory hits hte nail ?
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« Reply #149 on: October 29, 2007, 01:08:17 AM » |
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Anyone remember when we appointed Jim Smith, the EIGHTH CHOICE, only 3 years before Keegan walked through the door.
Geordie manager Howard Kendall didn't have the bottle to take on his home town club, or maybe because they were so s*** he didn't want it. Succeeding him with Ardiles, another absolute nothing of a manager. Bobby Robson - another Geordie manager showed no interest in the job during his whole managerial career with Ipswich and England. Why didn't these managers, and all the top managers, show an interest or have the bottle to save Newcastle when they were staring at bankruptcy and relegation to the 3rd division ?
Keegan stepped forward. With no managerial experience whatsoever, he was prepared to be manager of a club that he played for and his dad supported, in the process of going down to the 3rd division for the first time in their history. THAT took bottle. Walking out of a club challenging for the title, that he built himself, shows a lack of bottle ? Don't make me laugh.
We know why Keegan left, he has said so, earlier when it was fresh in his memory. It was because the Halls were selling the club out to the stock exchange, and people in grey suits were telling him to sell Les Ferdinand to lift the share price for the flotation.
Keegan left because the harsh reality of being a football manager hit home, he was happy when money was being thrown at him by the board yet when it came down to balancing books like every other manager in the league had to at the time he didn't want any of it, he's been the same everywhere else too. like i've posted earlier re cole selling etc ? He sold Cole because he wanted Ferdinand and Gillespie, QPR f***** the club around though so we had to wait until the summer, he spent £14 million that summer, £11 million around the January and broke the World record transfer fee the following summer. £40 million in a little over 12 months was never heard of in English football at the time so don't make out he had it hard because he didn't. yes and like i've said after dropping to sixth and selling cole,facing the fans on the steps of SJP you'd think that was more pressure than that under which he left ? It was a different pressure selling Cole, it was a risk that he was happy to take to get a better player in Les Ferdinand but the decision was always his, when the money dried up (something out of his hands) and he'd have to manage the club like every other club manager in the division he didn't want any of it. And Benitez hasn't been demanding money from Liverpool then, for instance ? Despite taking over a club already established as trophy winners for decades [ just so macca 888 and anyone else like him, can detect the difference..... ] What would you prefer Baggio. A manager content to settle for underachievement, or one who strives to drive his board and his club ?
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