Sorry ? You made a smirking comment about Leazes - on the tiresome muslim thing - didn't we have enough of this after the Blackburn game ? - and I respond in a like manner. If yours was sarcastic what then was mine ?
Still sarcasm, matey.
Hence, both sarcasm, hence same difference.

Theres an awful lot of propounding and accusations.
Bottom line is NO ONE on here knows how many blacks, asians, mongolians, leprecauns or whatever have done the course or even applied for managerial jobs.
So - all a bit academic, or more to the point - strident lecturing rather than knowledgeable discussion I'd say.

To me it is incredible that any discussion of racism in society immediately leads to one side charging the other with gross simplification and  ignorance,

Crooks makes a statement. His character is impugned. His looks are mocked. His arguments are dismissed out-of-hand without consideration.

 No facts are presented. The science of statistics are dismissed, again, out-of-hand eliminating the basis of all rational discussion. False analogies and poor, irrelevant arguments are repeated and repeated again. And again. As if merely repeating a prejudice is enough to win the argument.

 Fact.   

And inevitably, the side that accuses the other of ignorance is the side that claims that no racism exists.

Oh, irony.

Speak as you find, of course - or rather from your own standpoint.
I have personally found that the racism-shouters will say there's LESS racism when it suites them, or MORE when they're argueing that.
Duke of Wellington could have been talking about the PC career racist-shouters when he said "Lies, damn lies, and statistics"

Yes, and Disraeli said "Most people use statistics the way that a drunk uses a light post-- more for support than for illumination"

I am trying to use statistics to illuminate the issue and enable us to discuss an emotionally-charged topic rationally.

My point was that, in my experience, it is the so-called  "racism-shouters" who are the ones who make the appeals to reason and the racism-deniers who, inevitably, do the shouting.

Crooks presented an argument. If you disagree, refute it with facts. Hard numbers are a good place to start.

Could be, but why would that be the case?

Nevertheless, dismissing that there is racism in football, as some people so vehemently do in this thread, is quite shocking. Racism is an unpleasant and illogical fact of life that should not be ignored.

Like i said before, how many black players were there in the 80's compared to now?

Back then i'd quite imaging racism existed in the levels were talking about here (board room) but when you see all the big teams full of black or mixed players then you can hardly suggest those running the clubs are racists and don't want black managers.

Most clubs, if not all run huge anti-racism campaigns which cost money and time (why would a racist board sanction this?) and the UK probably is the best place for a black player to play his football, many African players have stated this over the years, and find it hard to deal while playing in Europe with the open racism as they've forgotten the level of abuse that can happen elsewhere. It still does happen here, but its dealt with, and severe but fair punishment is handed down.

More and more black players are making it as footballers, and when that career ends more and more will become coaches or at least try, more will become managers and then those who are good enough will succeed at the highest level.

But that could take a while. If black people want to pull the racism card as an excuse to make them more determined to succeed, then i hope that works for them. But the ones who pull it as they simply cannot be arsed to take the course and take a chance and compete in an even harder job than they've just finished doing can piss off, you fool no one.

They haven't, they just don't see it as the main benefactor to black people not becoming managers of English football clubs...

Gemma and his cronies on toontastic will like that 

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And you reply with bullsiht examples from the fuking States?

Get a grip, did you not read the thread title of "English football should be ashamed"?

Or just whatever suits.

Keep up the crap work.

Not "people" I notice, just "white people".

I object to being stereotyped and discriminated against because of the colour of my skin.
I think there's a word for that.