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« Reply #1800 on: October 01, 2007, 10:46:21 PM » |
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Interview with D&C about season four: Producers of ABC's Lost offered SCI FI Wire a few spoilers for the upcoming fourth season and said that more questions will be answered and more flashbacks and flash-forwards likely when the show returns early next year.
Executive producer and co-creator Damon Lindelof said the fourth season will continue "to answer and ask a lot of questions." But, he added, "season four is going to be a whole new show in a lot of ways. We're really excited with what we're doing and hope that it'll offer as many surprises as the finale did."
Among the spoilers Lindelof revealed: "Michael [Harold Perrineau] is coming back. Definitely. As for Walt [Michael's young son, played by Malcolm David Kelley], we've always known Malcolm was going to grow faster than we could shoot the show. And we planned for it. Trust us. Please trust us."
The show's producers have already figured out what they will do with the mysterious character of Jacob, who was introduced at the end of season three. Picking his words carefully, executive producer Carlton Cuse said, "Yes, we do know how Jacob will be depicted. Notice the careful wording of my answer. And no, Jacob did not appear before he was met by Locke." Cuse also declined to say whether an actor had been chosen to portray the character.
Flashbacks will continue to explain the backgrounds of some of the characters, but there will also be glimpses into the future, the producers said. (In the season finale, viewers saw what appeared to be a flash-florward to Jack [Matthew Fox] and Kate [Evangeline Lilly] after they had been rescued from the island.)
The producers said that it is inevitable that the time-bending story of Lost will continue to use both looks backward and forward. "It's absolutely inevitable, not to migrate completely away from flashbacks, but at least to find a new paradigm for storytelling that changed up the nature of the show," Cuse said. "Moving forwards, you'll get a mix. Every week will hopefully be a guessing game as to not just WHO will be focused on, but WHEN we're focusing on them. Flash-forwards will be a part of season four, yes."
The reverberations of the death of Charlie Hieronymus Pace, played by Lord of the Rings's Dominic Monaghan, at the end of the last season will inevitably continue at the beginning of season four. "The reverberation of that death echoes right into the premiere of season four," Lindelof said.
Hmmm... Instant theory: It wasn't a flash forward at all, it was a flashback and what we've seen on the island in fact occurs after that meeting between Kate and Jack and they have indeed gone back to the island. The dead bloke in that sequence is actually Jack's dad, and they are in somekind of loop thing which sees them repeatedly going back to the island over and over again. Or not as the case may be? Coming up with bullshit theories is actually more fun than the actual programme - well the majority of last season, anyway.
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« Reply #1801 on: October 02, 2007, 08:03:13 AM » |
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That's an interesting theory, though I think they confirmed at comic-con that it was a flashforward.
It seems almost certain now that the premiere will focus on multiple characters btw. Which I told you all YONKS ago, but whatever.
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« Reply #1802 on: October 02, 2007, 08:39:59 AM » |
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I liked the one from "I do" as well - with Alex and Ben. Michael Emerson is just sublime as ever.
And the one from "Every Man For Himself", whilst not the best scene, also shows (once again) that the writers do actually have a clue where things are going, even though they ultimately held back the runway reveal until the finale.
Any idea of the per episode budget Andy? I'm not too sure, but I'll try to find out. Why do you ask? Just wondered if it was in the $1m an episode league. From Gregg: Obviously, I'm not directly involved in the production, so I can't give you exact figures (I'm not even sure Jack Bender could), but this is my understanding of how it works:
The budget differentiates from episode-to-episode. The figure is determined based mainly on advertising revenue, thus, ABC will take into account; (1) the show's average rating - particularly in the key demos - during the three sweep periods; (2) the typical performance of the day and timeslot; (3) the typical performance of the time of year [if the show has been around for more than a season, they may use ratings from the previous season as a guide]; and (4) the show's general marketability. Any excess budget from one episode can be carried over to the next, but due to the unpredictability of the viewership, it is more difficult to move it backwards from, say, episode 16 to 8, without an awful lot of trust from the powers that be. That's why you often see an improvement in CGI etc towards the back-end of the season. It goes deeper than that, and there's certainly a lot of loopholes and exceptions and suchlike, but that's the gist of it.
Anyway, to get to the point; on average (and especially after salaries), the show costs somewhere in the region of $2.5m to produce per episode.
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« Reply #1803 on: October 02, 2007, 12:47:13 PM » |
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« Reply #1804 on: October 06, 2007, 07:45:54 AM » |
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"Fox has picked up "Fringe," a spooky series from the minds of J.J. Abrams, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, reports Variety.
The network has made a series commitment to the Warner Bros.-Bad Robot production, which will start off with a two-hour pilot budgeted at more than $10 million. Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci (who are working on Paramount's new Star Trek movie) wrote the project and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk ("Lost"). A search has begun for a pilot director as well as a series showrunner.
"Fringe" mixes elements of "The X-Files" and Paddy Chayefsky's Altered States with what Abrams calls "a slight 'Twilight Zone' vibe." It will focus on brilliant but possibly crazy research scientist Walter Bishop, his estranged son and a female FBI agent who brings them together.
Episodes will explore self-contained mysteries of the paranormal, as well as the relationships between the three leads.
"So much of the story is relatable people in extraordinary situations," Abrams said. "The show is definitely a nod to 'Altered States' and 'Scanners' and that whole Michael Crichton/Robin Cook world of medicine and science."
There'll also be an overriding mythology that will come into play from time to time, as well as a healthy dose of humor.
"It does the stuff my favorite TV shows and movies do, which is to combine genres that shouldn't fit together," Abrams said. "It's definitely meant to scare the hell out of you, but it's also meant to make you laugh... It pushes all the buttons of things we loved from our childhood."
Driving the show will be the Walter Bishop character, a larger-than-life figure who bears some resemblance to the titular character in Fox's "House." In the pilot, he's in a mental hospital.
"Imagine that your father is Frankenstein mixed with Albert Einstein," Orci said. "He's someone who has the mental ability to solve so many problems but is so different that communicating with them is almost impossible." Sounds interesting. But strange for Abrams to go to FOX. They normally cancel his kind of shows within months. Bryan Burk possibly leaving the show as well :-/ He's the man responsible for the sound effects and suchlike, so it would be sad to see him go.
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« Reply #1805 on: October 06, 2007, 07:48:38 AM » |
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Why is everything this guy does all about mythology?
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« Reply #1806 on: October 06, 2007, 07:54:18 AM » |
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« Reply #1807 on: October 06, 2007, 07:56:46 AM » |
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Lets be serious, if people know that this new show Fringe is done by the same people as Lost and is all mythical then will they watch it? Alot will but alot will also think "well i was sick of waiting ages for answers in Lost im not getting myself into that waiting game again".
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« Reply #1808 on: October 06, 2007, 08:11:17 AM » |
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Well yeah, but you're mistaking "mythology" for "mystery", I think. Almost all shows have a mythology of sorts. It's basically just a way of referring to a plot that connects together standalone episodes. It doesn't automatically mean that the show will be completely question-orientated or whatever.
Anyway, my understanding is that Abrams will have little involvement beyond the pilot; much like his role on lost (i.e. attach his name to it whenever it's advertised, label him as "series creator" and "executive producer", then let somebody else do the actual work). And there's only Burk from the LOST production staff moving over other than him, to my knowledge, so basically the two shows will probably be almost, but not quite, entirely unlike one another.
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« Reply #1809 on: October 06, 2007, 02:32:19 PM » |
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Episode four, apparently, will be a Kate flashback/forward set in court.
I'm presuming it's a flashforward, and perhaps that her being on the verge of being found guilty will change her attitude from the finale and push her into agreeing with Jack re: going back to the island.
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« Reply #1810 on: October 12, 2007, 11:11:24 AM » |
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As posted in the American TV shows thread: There's about to be a massive writing strike in America, apparently, so it looks like a lot of our favourite shows could be facing delays guys. This is what Gregg had to say on the issue (it relates to Lost, obviously, but can be applied to all shows): The strike is a very real possibility because the writers and the producers are very far apart in negotiations. There's some info on the wga.org page if you want to read up on it. Check it out if you have some time to kill. The feeling I get is that the strike in 1988 will be nothing compared to a strike today. And it won't be just Lost -- all shows will immediately shut down. It's ugly now, and it seems like it's going to get worse. But the fans like repeats and reality shows, right?
I'm really not sure how ABC would handle episodes completed and "in the can." They may wait to see how long a strike would last. Or they could decide to burn them off and then have another mini-hiatus until after the strike is over and production is back in the swing of things. ABC will be facing that issue with all their shows if a strike happens. Just like all the networks.
As far as Carlton and Damon being writers and producers and caught in the middle; this is where the term "producer" becomes problematic because of the way it's defined. Creatively, Damon and Carlton call the shots; therefore they are the (creative) executive producers. However, it is Touchstone (now called ABC Studios) who pays for the show and is therefore the producing entity. (And ABC Studios is in turn owned by Walt Disney Corporation, which in the end is really the paying/producing entity.) So the big corporations, like Disney, Warner Bros., Paramount, CBS, Fox, NBC Universal, etc., are the "producers" the writers guild is negotiating with. It kind of comes down to the suits versus the creative people.
There is a producer's guild, and I'm not sure what the membership requirements are to join. Maybe someone like J. J. could join since technically he owns his own company and produces various shows. I don't know if it's a requirement to join the producer's guild and be a signatory to the various other guilds in order to employ WGA, DGA and SAG members. I know as a member of the WGA, you are not allowed to work for companies that are not signatories to the minimum basic agreement. And that's the agreement the WGA and the producer's guild is trying to hammer out now.
So we'll see. SAG's contract is up at the end of April, which is why film production is starting to be affected. If a film can't start and finish by the end of April, companies are passing on it. Everything is being moved up because of that. So if the writers strike, I would imagine that the actors would strike, too. And that would be bad, obviously... https://wga.org/subpage_member.aspx?id=2478February 4th may optimistic at the moment, by the looks of things.
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« Reply #1811 on: October 15, 2007, 09:06:21 PM » |
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« Reply #1812 on: October 15, 2007, 09:10:56 PM » |
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« Reply #1813 on: October 15, 2007, 09:15:28 PM » |
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I hope its not like the whole season of just what happens after they get off.
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« Reply #1814 on: October 15, 2007, 09:17:12 PM » |
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The photographs pretty blatanty show that that's not the case.
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« Reply #1815 on: October 15, 2007, 09:20:44 PM » |
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The photographs pretty blatanty show that that's not the case.
I mean like, 3/4 of the episodes aren't just the afters.
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« Reply #1816 on: October 15, 2007, 09:43:23 PM » |
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They're not.
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« Reply #1817 on: October 17, 2007, 02:36:50 PM » |
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A decent interview with D&C from Variety: It happened about a week ago. I was on duty, sifting through a stack of screeners of second and third episodes of fall series, not feeling particularly eager to view any of them, and as my thoughts wandered I felt a pang of "Hey, wait a minute..." excitement.
The new season is underway, I thought, and that means fresh segs of "Lost" are coming soon...
For a split second, my mind raced, my heart soared and I lunged toward my computer to look up the premiere date. And then it hit me. Four. More. Months. Or at least three and a half. "Lost" won't be back until early February. (I knew that already, of course, but after watching too many screeners in a row you often have to smack yourself upside the head to get the synapses firing properly again.)
It's going to be worth the wait, no doubt. Our heroes -- "Lost" exec producer/co-creator Damon Lindelof and exec producer Carlton Cuse -- are using the time to painstakingly map out the flight plan for "Lost's" remaining 48 episodes. "Lost's" chief creative stewards and ABC announced an agreement back in May to bring the show to an end in 2010 end after three more seasons of 16 episodes apiece.
ABC's decision to sked the show "24"-style without repeats over consecutive weeks makes perfect sense -- ergo, the February preem date. It's all very logical and forward-thinking, but when we were applauding these decisions a few months ago, I don't think any of us rabid fans had a clue how tortuous it would be to have to wait so long. Drat and Deuteronomy!
But it's just my luck that Lindelof and Cuse were cool and kind enough to respond to a pleading email from a jones-ing fan. The two got on the horn last week to discuss how their work process has changed in the new 48-episode world order.
"The biggest change is that it gives us the benefit of being able to plot and plan the remaining mythology of the show," Cuse says.
Before there was a pre-determined end date, "it was always tricky for us to figure out how fast it could all unspool. This allows us to do a lot of macro-planning, and more opportunities to organize and strategize."
At the end of last season, when the "Lost" scribes held their annual post-mortem before the summer hiatus, they began to think about how the long-term stories will unfold over 48 more hours. Each of the three remaining seasons has to have its own beginning, middle and end, natch, but now in the plotting of those 16-seg batches "we can draw back on a macro-level and begin to plant certain story ideas. We have a much better sense of how the 'Lost' mosaic will be filled in," Cuse says.
The later on-air start means that the writers will be almost done with the scripts for all 16 episodes by the time series bows. Writers went back at it in mid-July; shooting began in August and they expect to be in production on segs 12 and 13 by the time the first one rolls in February. (Unless, of course, there's a work stoppage among Hollywood scribes, which would be a horrorshow unto itself.)
And as such, "Lost's" scribe tribe will have much less flexibility in the coming frame to "course-correct," as Lindelof puts it. He and Cuse were quite candid and humble in acknowledging the complaints of fans about the tight focus of the storytelling in the first seven episodes of last season. (Not enough of the ensemble! the fans howled). And when they intro'd characters, Nikki and Paolo, who fell flat with the fan-o-sphere, the writers responded by promptly burying them alive. Primetime TV doesn't get much more interactive than that.
In truth, Lindelof sez they're not too worried about running afoul of fans, because the writers' room collectively has a pretty good sense of when things are clicking -- and when they're not -- at any given moment during production.
"We had the feeling with Nikki and Paolo that it wasn't right about a month before the fans started reacting," Lindelof says matter-of-factly. "We were already starting to think, 'Maybe our instinct here has been wrong.'"
Lindelof notes that "Lost's" storytelling quirks presents huge challenges, particularly at the start of each season. There's no "Four months later" title slate that can set up a new frame of reference for characters or the plot. Even Fox's "24" gets to hit the reset button at the start of each season. But on "Lost," the season opener by necessity takes place moments after the credits rolled on the previous season's finale.
"It can be hard to hit the ground running," Lindelof admits. "It's not like we can say 'Well, it's another year at Hogwarts,' or we have the ability to scatter our characters around to new situations. If there's a backlash (among fans) in our show it usually comes from how we start out."
Now that the finish line is in sight, Lindelof and Cuse have a much better grip on the stories they need to tell and how the threads they've laid out so far need to weave together. It's unlikely they would've attempted the flash-forward sequence featuring Jack and Kate in last season's two-hour finale if they were still uncertain about their end-date, Lindelof says.
Telling stories in the past, the present and, starting with last season's finale, the near future is also a high-wire act, Lindelof observes. It would've been reckless to present a vision of the future without having a firm grip on where their characters are heading.
"In most dramas the story takes you from point A to B to C. On our show you go from A to B, an then we go, 'Here, look at V...and then let's go back to C.' You can't just take those detours if you don't have a good sense of where your big story beats are," says Lindelof.
So did their grand plan for the characters change after they got the 48-and-out order from ABC in May? Or have they always had the broad strokes of the plot in mind, and now the focus is on story structures and pacing? These probing questions (which they've been asked a few thousand times before) were met with a pause, and then a Kerouac-ian response from Cuse.
"It's like you're taking a road trip from L.A. to New York," Cuse says. "You know you're going to end up in New York. But now you look at your itinerary and you know that you're going to be in Cleveland on these three nights, and you're going to be in Detroit on these two nights..."
Lindelof allowed that the show and its characters have taken on their own life at several points in the series' run so far. He pointed to the additions of Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet and Michael Emerson as Ben as situations where the actors were so good in the roles that the writers had little choice but to expand their storylines beyond their initial plans.
"Ben was supposed to be in three episodes of season two," Lindelof says. "Now it's impossible to (imagine) the show without him."
Taking those kind of unexpected twists and turns is a big part of the creative turn-on of episodic television, Cuse says.
"A TV series is like an organic entity," he says. "You have your plans, you steer it and tell it what to do, and sometimes it tells you what to do. Seeing those things (on screen) that you don't expect -- that's the exciting part."
With the lag time between production and premiere this season, the "Lost" writers must be working in bunker-like conditions in an effort to keep the plot leakage to a minimum, no?
Yes and no. Yes, they have clamped down "enormously" this year on the distribution of show materials outside of need-to-know circles, Cuse says. All of the casting info they circulate is based on extreme generalities, or in some cases, out and out deceptions.
"We always write fake sides for the stuff we send to talent agencies and (casting) breakdowns," Cuse says. "We are casting characters under false pretenses...We come up with things that are analogous to the roles we really want."
As for internal security concenrs, Lindelof and Cuse say they expect everyone on their core staff to act professionally and responsibly. Spoilers are going to happen -- there's no getting around that when people make a sport out of staking out the show's production sites in Hawaii with telephoto lenses.
Lindelof and Cuse bank on the fact that "Lost's" true-blue fans eschew the many spoiler-info sources out there in favor of enjoying the viewing experience to the hilt, and learning plot points the way nature intended them to be disseminated.
"You're only going to see 'The Sixth Sense' for the first time once. There's only going to be one time when you watch the movie and not know that Bruce Willis is really dead," says Lindelof. "That's what we pride ourselves on doing in our show, those kind of twists and turns that grab you. I think there's a lot of responsibility to be taken on the part of the fans, and on the part of the press, to not destroy the viewing experience for people."
At the same time, because of the fandemonium that the show inspires, it behooves them to sprinkle out a few tidbits during the off season, out of respect for the passion people have for the show and because complete radio silence only encourages the search for spoilers, Lindelof believes.
They to be savvy about managing the news they know won't hold, such as actor Harold Perrineau's return as a regular next season. Lindelof says they announced it at Comic-Con with much fanfare -- and an appearance by Perrineau -- because the July confab was the perfect setting to unleash such fan-pleasing news (though the official word got out a few days before after ABC boss Steve McPherson dropped a hint and then got into a tussle with reporters during the Television Critics Assn. press tour.)
At Comic-Con, "Lost's" dynamic duo also preemed another tantalizing Dharma Initiative black-and-white training film with the haughty scientist who's name is never the same.
Lindelof sez they're also excited about an upcoming series of exclusive original "Lost" shorts coming to mobile platforms through ABC's deal with Verizon (I'm guessing they'll also wind up on ABC.com and/or iTunes at some point) and will be rolled out in a serialized fashion as part of the build up to the season four premiere. The shorts, featuring regular "Lost" players and produced under WGA, DGA and SAG auspices, will provide fans with a glimpse of "some really interesting 'Lost' puzzle pieces," Lindelof promises.
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« Reply #1818 on: October 23, 2007, 11:26:01 AM » |
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Just listening to the the audio commentaries on the boxset, Damon and Carlton basically confirm the fact that Richard Alpert doesn't age in The Man Behind The Curtain. They also say that Ben's childhood girlfriend Annie will play a massive part in the story in future, and the volcano will be of some importance too.
Also, Elizabeth Mitchell is awesome.
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« Reply #1819 on: October 24, 2007, 01:42:13 PM » |
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Just listening to the the audio commentaries on the boxset, Damon and Carlton basically confirm the fact that Richard Alpert doesn't age in The Man Behind The Curtain. They also say that Ben's childhood girlfriend Annie will play a massive part in the story in future, and the volcano will be of some importance too.
Also, Elizabeth Mitchell is awesome.
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« Reply #1820 on: October 24, 2007, 04:56:46 PM » |
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It was referenced in that episode by the teacher and Annie in dialog. Paraphrasing here, but it was along the lines of:
Teacher: Blah de blah de blah, something about volcanos. Annie: Is that what happened to the volcano on this island. Teacher: Aye.
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« Reply #1821 on: October 25, 2007, 10:05:32 AM » |
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It was referenced in that episode by the teacher and Annie in dialog. Paraphrasing here, but it was along the lines of:
Teacher: Blah de blah de blah, something about volcanos. Annie: Is that what happened to the volcano on this island. Teacher: Aye.
'Geordie Lost' would be a guaranteed hit! Geordie Locke: 'Here man, ah'm tellin' yuh this island is f****** magical and all that, like!
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« Reply #1822 on: October 25, 2007, 10:19:38 AM » |
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Is this The Orchid station? Dinosaur bones? Now they've got a guaranteed end date, they're gonna go Jurassic Park on us, aren't they? 
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« Reply #1823 on: October 25, 2007, 09:12:01 PM » |
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There's an interesting conversation in the writers room from mid-way through the season on the boxset, along the lines of:
Lindelof: I was thinking, for the big finale twist, we should maybe film it in LAX as opposed to Hawaii - with that being the original destination of flight 815... Use a skeleton crew to avoid leaks... Cuse: We should also consider filming a fake cliffhanger-scene...
Whilst they obviously didn't do this for the finale, it makes you wonder how many of the spoilers etc. that are being leaked at the moment are actually genuine.
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« Reply #1824 on: October 25, 2007, 09:24:58 PM » |
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I hope those dinosaur bones are a decoy, they're f****** s****, not seen anything as obviously fake as that for a long time.
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