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Football / NUFC / Re: Is Emre expendable?
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on: August 09, 2006, 04:24:13 PM
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you'll never get that kind of money anyway, for some strange reason Turkish players aren't valued enough. I'm sure you'd get that kind of money if had some Brazilian in him, if you catch my drift.  Thats because most of them are shit. Would be an accurate statement if you were referring to Danish players. Seriously, wtf has Gravesen done? His national team is crap all and anyone looks good at Real Madrid. At least Emre can say he's been on a UEFA Cup and UEFA Super Cup winning team. Has Gravesen ever featured on a team that reached the later stages of the Champions League? Emre was there with both Galatasaray and Inter. I saw both draws between Turkey and Denmark in the World Cup Qualifying Stage where Turkey finished above Denmark (btw, I can honestly say in both matches Turkey outplayed Denmark), and I couldn't see what the hell everybody rates Gravesen so highly for? 
Great response. So when will you be getting around to roundly assailing every league in Scandinavia that's been piss poor for the last 10+ years and has shit all to show in European trophies? |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Is Emre expendable?
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on: August 09, 2006, 04:20:18 PM
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you'll never get that kind of money anyway, for some strange reason Turkish players aren't valued enough. I'm sure you'd get that kind of money if had some Brazilian in him, if you catch my drift. Thats because most of them are shit. Would be an accurate statement if you were referring to Danish players. Seriously, wtf has Gravesen done? His national team is crap all and anyone looks good at Real Madrid. At least Emre can say he's been on a UEFA Cup and UEFA Super Cup winning team. Has Gravesen ever featured on a team that reached the later stages of the Champions League? Emre was there with both Galatasaray and Inter. I saw both draws between Turkey and Denmark in the World Cup Qualifying Stage where Turkey finished above Denmark (btw, I can honestly say in both matches Turkey outplayed Denmark), and I couldn't see what the hell everybody rates Gravesen so highly for? Gravesen has bossed the midfield every time I've seen him play at SJP and regularly got jeered by our fans, simply because of how much he was running things/putting himself about. (This was before the Bernard incident.) That's good enough for me, you cannot tell me Gravesen is a poor player - he was instrumental in propelling a poor Everton team into a highly-impressive 4th place. Umit Davala, your bias is very obvious and understandable. As someone from Newcastle with absolutely no affiliation to Gravesen other than being an admirer, there is very little to choose between him and Emre in regards to effectiveness, but they are very different types of player. As a partnership I think they would be an excellent compliment to one another. They're both high-class players with different strengths and attributes that we'd be very lucky to have in the same squad.
That's all right. I'm not saying he isn't a good player. They obviously had to have seen something at Everton that got him transferred to Real Madrid. But likewise, Inter saw something that got Emre to INter. However he may play now, he was influential in Galatasaray's drive toward the UEFA Cup + Super Cup, and was a regular starter on a team that made it to the CL quarter-final (back when they had two group stages, making it more difficult for less financially gifted teams to get through). |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Is Emre expendable?
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on: August 09, 2006, 04:11:33 PM
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you'll never get that kind of money anyway, for some strange reason Turkish players aren't valued enough. I'm sure you'd get that kind of money if had some Brazilian in him, if you catch my drift. Thats because most of them are shit.
https://www.iffhs.de/?b6e28fa3002f71504e52d17f7370eff3702bb1c2bb16
The strongest National League of the World 2006
by IFFHS
Place Top Division of Points
1. Italia 662,0
2. España 622,0
3. England 550,0
4. France 524,0
5. Argentina 520,0
6. Brasil 446,0
7. Deutschland 425,0
8. México 393,5
9. Portugal 327,5
10. Colombia 316,5
11. Nederland 308,0
12. Türkiye 303,0
13. Chile 288,0
14. Perú 280,5
15. Paraguay 276,0
16. Greece 271,5
17. România 259,0
18. Scotland 252,5
19. Uruguay 232,5
20. Egypt 230,0
21. Schweiz 228,5
22. Belgique 219,0
23. Algérie 215,0
Ecuador 215,0
25. Malaysia 213,0
26. Kuwait 212,5
27. Česká Republika 210,5
28. Bulgaria 209,0
29. Russia 208,5
30. Tunisie 204,0
31. Maroc 201,0
Denmark > 31. |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Is Emre expendable?
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on: August 09, 2006, 04:08:52 PM
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you'll never get that kind of money anyway, for some strange reason Turkish players aren't valued enough. I'm sure you'd get that kind of money if had some Brazilian in him, if you catch my drift. Thats because most of them are shit.
Would be an accurate statement if you were referring to Danish players. Seriously, wtf has Gravesen done? His national team is crap all and anyone looks good at Real Madrid. At least Emre can say he's been on a UEFA Cup and UEFA Super Cup winning team. Has Gravesen ever featured on a team that reached the later stages of the Champions League? Emre was there with both Galatasaray and Inter. I saw both draws between Turkey and Denmark in the World Cup Qualifying Stage where Turkey finished above Denmark (btw, I can honestly say in both matches Turkey outplayed Denmark), and I couldn't see what the hell everybody rates Gravesen so highly for? |
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General / Chat / Re: "Worst killing of Iraqi citizens since the war started"..
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on: August 08, 2006, 08:47:50 AM
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https://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1839522,00.html
Soldiers 'hit golf balls before going out to kill family'
· US military court told of brutal attack in Iraq
· Evidence from colleague describes rape and murder
Ryan Lenz, Associated Press in Baghdad
Tuesday August 8, 2006
The Guardian
US soldiers, accused of raping and murdering a 14-year-old Iraqi girl, drank alcohol and hit golf balls before the attack. One of them grilled chicken wings afterwards, a criminal investigator told a US military hearing yesterday.
Benjamin Bierce interviewed one of the accused, Specialist James Barker who made a written statement in which he recorded graphic and brutal sexual details of the alleged assault on March 12.
Mr Bierce was testifying on the second day of the hearing to determine whether five soldiers must stand trial for the rape and killing of Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, her parents and five-year-old sister in the town of Mahmudiya.
It is among the worst in a series of cases of alleged misconduct. Specialist Barker's signed statement was submitted in evidence. He is accused, along with Sergeant Paul Cortez, Private Jesse Spielman and Private Bryan Howard of rape and murder. Another soldier, Sergeant Anthony Yribe, is accused of failing to report the attack but is not alleged to have participated.
Former private, Steven Green, was discharged from the army for a "personality disorder" after the incident and was arrested in North Carolina in June on rape and murder charges. He has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail.
Yesterday, Private Justin Watt testified that Private Howard told him, before the incident, that Private Green, Sergeant Cortez and Specialist Barker had planned to rape a girl, and Private Howard was to be the lookout. Another investigator, Michael Hood, told the hearing that he interviewed Private Spielman, who denied shooting or having sex with anyone. He was given a lie-detector test and passed.
According to Specialist Barker's statement, Private Green not only raped the girl but also shot her and her family after telling his comrades repeatedly he wanted to kill some Iraqis. Mr Bierce said that on the day of the attack, Specialist Barker, Sergeant Cortez, Private Spielman and Private Green had been playing cards and drinking Iraqi whisky mixed with an energy drink. They practised hitting golf balls, Specialist Barker's statement said.
Specialist Barker made it clear Private Green was very persistent about killing some Iraqis. At some point they decided to go to the house of the girl they had seen passing by their checkpoint. Specialist Barker also said that when they arrived at the house, the father and the girl were outside. Private Spielman grabbed the girl while Private Green seized her father and took them into the house.
Private Green took the father, mother and the younger sister into the bedroom, while the girl remained in the living room. Specialist Barker wrote that Sergeant Cortez pushed the girl to the floor, and tore off her underwear. Sergeant Cortez appeared to rape her, according to the statement. Specialist Barker then tried to rape the girl, Mr Bierce said. Suddenly, the group heard gunshots. Private Green came out of the bedroom holding an AK-47 rifle and declared: "They're all dead. I just killed them," the statement said.
Private Green put the gun down, then raped the girl while Sergeant Cortez held her down. Specialist Barker claims Private Green picked up the AK-47 and shot the girl once, paused, then shot her several more times. Specialist Barker said he got a lamp and poured kerosene on the girl. She was set on fire, but he does not say who did it. He does not say if Private Howard or Private Spielman took part in the rape. The statement says he grilled chicken wings back at their checkpoint.
The case has increased demands for changes to an agreement that exempts US soldiers from prosecution in Iraqi courts. Prime minister Nuri al-Maliki has demanded an independent investigation. |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Emre's fitness
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on: July 12, 2006, 05:15:41 AM
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Hmm, the .co.uk site says 80 kg, but he was 65 kg back in his Galatasaray days (https://hakan.sukur.tripod.com/players-tr.htm, it's an old unmaintained fan site but probably copied stats from the official site back then).
Also, latest version of Football Manager 2006 (I know, not the most reliable source) says 68 kg.
A Danish Inter fansite updated to 2005 has him listed at 68 kg (https://www.inter.dk/spillere-emre.php) along with most sites on the web.
I'm think the stat on .co.uk is wrong. A rare mistake on what is otherwise a great site. His Galatasaray stats there are all wrong also. He certainly played much more than he is listed as considering he was a regular on a team that won the UEFA Cup, UEFA Super Cup and made it to a CL quarter-final. |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Emre's fitness
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on: July 12, 2006, 04:56:23 AM
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The fact is, the guy has contributed very little to our cause since the goals against S'land an Birmingham
I'm not sure as it's been a while but wasn't it Emre's corner that lead to Bramble's goal against Chelsea? |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Should the police act against Zidane?
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on: July 10, 2006, 11:38:31 PM
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Everyone in France knows that Zidane is a non-pratise Muslim, or a nominal Muslim only.
By the way Zidane is NOT an Arab. He is a Berber. Berber is an algerian native non-Arab tribe. Zidane looks more like an European than an Arab. But Berber tribe are still Muslim though.
To be fair, when it suits the Western media outlets, they're "Arab terrorists" despite Arabs constituting less than 20% of the Muslims in the world.
BTW, "non-practicing Muslim" = too lazy or don't know how to pray at any time of the day even if I had time to, and can't be bothered to donate at least 2.5 % of my yearly income (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakat) to the poor. Also, doesn't have a problem drinking alcohol. Then, again Alevis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi) don't have a problem drinking alcohol either.
Zidane's being a bit hard on himself with that self-description. It describes a lot of the Muslims I know. |
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General / Chat / Re: Chechen warlord Basayev 'killed'
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on: July 10, 2006, 10:58:52 PM
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Injustices fuel Chechnya's fires
By Patrick Jackson
BBC News
Russia has recorded no attacks resulting in massive loss of civilian life in the year since pro-Chechen militants seized the school in Beslan.
But in Chechnya itself, civilians continue to suffer as the separatist war grinds on - much of it unpublicised because of Russian media restrictions.
Hardly a night passes without a rebel ambush or a raid by security forces, the latter sometimes only reported by human rights groups.
Chechen refugees may no longer spend the freezing winters in tents. But many remain scattered outside their homeland, dispossessed and often living in atrocious conditions, on former dairy farms, in factories and train carriages.
"There hasn't been a war in Chechnya for three years - the war is over," Russian President Vladimir Putin told foreign reporters late last year.
Yet the violence that has engulfed Chechnya and spread beyond has not receded, and Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev, who claimed the Beslan attack, does not rule out further mass hostage-takings.
As Beslan remembers its lost children, bitterness on both sides continues to drive a particularly brutal conflict.
Lonely fight
If the war is over for Vladimir Putin, it has only gone into its sixth year for the new appointed leader of the Chechen rebels, Abdul-Khalim Saydullayev.
In a speech released online last month, he said no political step taken in the West regarding Chechnya was comparable in significance to a single attack on Russian soldiers by Chechen fighters.
Witness: Chechen deportee
"If anybody really thinks the fate of the Chechen people is decided in Strasbourg, Washington or Moscow, they are deeply mistaken," he added.
Mr Saydullayev's speech suggests the rebels now despair of any meaningful outside intervention in Chechnya.
They argue that events like Beslan must be viewed alongside their own civilian losses and accuse Russia of pursuing "genocide".
That term has particularly painful associations after Stalin's mass deportation of Chechens and their Ingush neighbours in 1944 on suspicion of Nazi sympathies.
Tens of thousands of Chechens are thought to have perished before survivors were allowed to return from Central Asia in 1957. The event was a key Chechen argument for declaring independence in 1991, while other regions like Ingushetia and North Ossetia, where Beslan is located, were choosing to remain as autonomous republics.
Russia's indiscriminate bombing and shelling of Chechen towns and villages, particularly during the 1994-96 war, and "dirty war" tactics such as kidnappings, are widely believed to have radicalised Chechens further.
"It is undeniable that 'disappearances', killings, torture and ill-treatment continue to be a frequent occurrence, with abuses attributed to both federal and the various Chechen security forces, as well as Chechen armed opposition groups," Amnesty International's Victoria Webb told the BBC News website.
Adding fuel to the fire, many rebels view the conflict as a religious struggle, regarding themselves as Muslims pitted against a "godless" secular state.
Search for leadership
The death of Aslan Maskhadov in a Russian attack in March meant the loss of a veteran Chechen leader who had negotiated a peace deal before Vladimir Putin came to power.
Gun and bomb attacks still rattle Chechnya's towns and countryside
He denounced the Beslan attackers as "madmen," while arguing that brutality by Russian troops may have driven them out of their senses.
Diederik Lohman of Human Rights Watch (HRW) says the rebels have long appeared to lack strong, central control.
"My sense has always been that it is a lot of loosely affiliated little groups that have more or less the same ideas about what they want to achieve, and use the same methods, but it is not necessarily coordinated," he told the BBC News website.
In his book Inside Putin's Russia, Andrew Jack contrasts Chechen fortunes to those of the neighbouring Ingush, whose success in peacefully forging a republic of their own within Russia he attributes largely to good political leadership at the right time.
Though ever a critic of Moscow's use of force, Ruslan Aushev earned broad respect as Ingush president.
At Beslan, he helped negotiate the release of 26 people, including babies, when he went into the school during the siege.
Minutes before the explosions began on the last day, he was still talking to the hostage-takers by telephone.
COST OF CHECHEN CONFLICT
At least 40,000 civilians killed in 1994-96 war
At least 10,000 civilians killed since 1999
No clear figures for Russian losses but military deaths thought to at least equal USSR's Afghan toll of 15,000
Data on civilians supplied by Human Rights Watch
Chechnya has become synonymous with a sense of impunity, as Beslan mothers demand prosecutions over the authorities' handling of the school siege, Chechens point to the small number of Russian soldiers prosecuted for human rights abuses and Russians demand justice for Russian civilians targeted under Chechen rebel rule.
At least 400 Beslan residents signed an open letter to the world on the anniversary of the siege declaring: "We do not want to live any longer in a country where human life means nothing."
Amnesty's Victoria Webb says the situation in Chechnya may be "one of the effects of a government policy that only pays lip service to human rights principles".
Russian security forces sent to Chechnya are influenced by two stereotypes: Chechens as criminals and Chechens as terrorists.
Incalculable cost
"Next morning it snowed/After all the firing/The snow killed me/Put out a short life."
Dead City, Russian rock singer Yuri Shevchuk's requiem for Grozny, captures some of the horror of a war in which innocence may look out of place.
According to an HRW estimate, gleaned through field work among Chechen refugees in the absence of reliable figures from Moscow, a total of about 50,000 civilians died in the two wars, about a tenth of them children.
Beslan horrified Chechens too, Diederik Lohman points out, but the question many also ask is: "Where was the world when our children were dying under Russian bombs?" |
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General / Chat / Re: "Worst killing of Iraqi citizens since the war started"..
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on: July 10, 2006, 10:02:53 PM
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such a happy life they had under Saddam...
Not as if they're really any better off now. And it's arguably worse for Sunni Arabs. Also, I don't think they had to worry about rednecks from Kentucky storming their houses in the middle of the night and raping their children. no, just republican guards and secret police
Like the pro-US Shah in Iran?
Saddam murdered Kurds, Shias and his political opponents, but again, I doubt Sunni Arabs had to worry as much about Saddam's army abusing them. I don't think you could point out a single piece of objective journalism that mentions an elaborate plan of sexual assault by the forces of Saddam against the exact same population that his political party came to represent. It's pretty clear that they live in greater fear of US forces. Bear in mind, these civilian massacres are the only ones we hear about where the US soldiers involved were stupid enough to get caught. How many have occured that nobody may ever know about?
It's sad when people try to justify the rape of what could be a 14 year old girl. |
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General / Chat / Re: "Worst killing of Iraqi citizens since the war started"..
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on: July 10, 2006, 09:49:54 PM
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such a happy life they had under Saddam...
Not as if they're really any better off now. And it's arguably worse for Sunni Arabs. Also, I don't think they had to worry about rednecks from Kentucky storming their houses in the middle of the night and raping their children. |
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General / Chat / Re: Chechen warlord Basayev 'killed'
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on: July 10, 2006, 09:45:43 PM
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Good riddance.
Would be the case if someone popped one in Putin's balding head.
Hmm, he's been "killed" before. If it actually was him this time, it's unlikely to affect the rebels; he's only been marginally involved in the decision-making of one particularly militant group of the many operating there at the moment.
Meanwhile the hundreds of thousands of dead Chechens murdered by the poorly-trained Russian military continue to be ignored by the Europe and its media as they focus on Beslan, less than .01 % of the suffering the Chechen people have had to endure in the 140 years their nation has continued to be occupied.
Surprised the article doesn't mention that he was, like many of the rebels, a veteran of the Soviet military. I think he was responsible for organizing the security for a visit from a delegation from the White House once. |
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General / Chat / Re: "Worst killing of Iraqi citizens since the war started"..
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on: July 10, 2006, 03:39:21 AM
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More US troops charged with Iraqi girl's rape and murder
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Monday July 10, 2006
The Guardian
Four more soldiers have been charged with the rape and murder of a young Iraqi woman and her family, the most explosive of the five war crimes investigations currently under way in Iraq.
A fifth soldier was charged with dereliction of duty for failing to report the events of the night of March 12 when a group of soldiers are alleged to have abandoned their checkpoint to enter the home of an Iraqi family in the town of Mahmudiya. They allegedly raped and killed a young woman inside the house, and shot dead her parents and young sister.
In recent weeks, 16 soldiers have been charged with murders in Iraq - more than during the first three years of the war. No Marines have been charged so far in the worst alleged atrocity, the killing of 24 Iraqis at Haditha, but that has been overshadowed by the Mahmudiya episode.
Iraq's prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, has demanded an independent investigation into the alleged rape and killings, and said the immunity granted to US troops in Iraq has encouraged abuse. Sensitivities in the case deepened yesterday as Reuters news agency reported that the rape victim was only 14 years old.
Stephen Green, a former member of the 502nd infantry regiment, was charged last week in a US court with rape and murder. Mr Green, a former private, was granted an honourable discharge from the military for a personality disorder before the alleged rape and murder came to light. In an FBI affidavit, Mr Green and two other soldiers are accused of stalking the rape victim, identified by hospital authorities as Abeer Qassim Hamza.
On the night of March 12, Green and the other unnamed soldiers are alleged to have left their post, drunk alcohol and changed into dark clothing, and entered the victims' home.
Green is alleged to have shepherded the victim's parents, and her sister, who may have been as young as five, into a room, where each was shot in the head. The soldiers are then alleged to have tried to set fire to the bodies.
https://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1816666,00.html
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US soldiers charged in rape case
Four US soldiers have been charged with rape and murder over an attack on an Iraqi woman who was killed along with her family last March.
The soldiers, on active duty in Iraq, are accused of conspiring with former soldier Steven Green to commit the crimes in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad.
Mr Green, who is being held in the US, denies the rape and murder charges.
A fifth soldier serving in Iraq has been charged with dereliction of duty for failing to report the offences.
Investigation
The US military did not release the names of the soldiers charged in Iraq. They are all infantrymen from the 101st Airborne division, one of the elite US army units.
A statement said they would face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law.
Mr Green denied raping the Iraqi woman and murdering her and three members of her family when he appeared in court in Louisville, Kentucky on Friday.
He faces a possible death sentence if found guilty.
The woman he is alleged to have raped and killed was aged between 14 and 20, the US military says.
The case is one of five investigations in which US troops are accused of murdering Iraqi civilians.
https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5162976.stm |
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General / Chat / Re: "Worst killing of Iraqi citizens since the war started"..
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on: July 04, 2006, 05:26:42 AM
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https://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1812162,00.html
Former US private charged with rape and killing victim's family in Iraq
· Soldier was discharged with personality disorder
· Four men involved in attack, according to FBI
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Tuesday July 4, 2006
The Guardian
The Pentagon said yesterday it had charged a former US soldier with raping and killing a young woman in Iraq and killing three members of her family in what may prove one of the most incendiary war crimes investigations since the invasion in 2003.
Steven Green, 21, and a former private with the US army's 101st Airborne Division, based in Fort Campbell, Kentucky, was charged under military law with four counts of murder and one of rape.
If convicted, he could face the death penalty. He appeared in court in North Carolina yesterday, and was expected to be returned to Kentucky for further proceedings.
Mr Green's arrest came as new details emerged about the alleged atrocity in the town of Mahmudiya, suggesting that the rape victim, identified by the Washington Post yesterday as Abeer Qasim Hamza, was as young as 15 years old. Reuters news agency put the woman's age at 16, and US officials have said the woman was 20 or 25. Her sister, who was also killed, may have been as young as seven.
It also emerged that Mr Green had been discharged from the military because of a personality disorder after serving 11 months in Iraq.
His arrest marks the fifth war crimes inquiry by the Pentagon in recent weeks, and because of the extreme sensitivities attached to sexual offences and family honour in Muslim communities threatens to further inflame anti-American sentiment in Iraq and around the world.
In the version of events released by the justice department yesterday, Mr Green was among four soldiers manning a checkpoint near the family's home on the night of March 11.
While on duty, they were overheard discussing plans to rape the woman, and later left for her house after directing another soldier to monitor the radio. They were armed with M4 rifles from the armoury, and fuelled with alcohol - in violation of military regulations. Three of the alleged assailants changed into dark clothing; a witness also said Mr Green covered his face with a brown T-shirt.
When the soldiers arrived at the home, one of the American troops stood guard at the front door, while the other soldiers went inside. One witness told the FBI investigator that the parents and sister of the rape victim were confined to a back bedroom, and that he later heard gunshots from that room.
"I just killed them, all are dead," Mr Green allegedly announced to the soldiers, according to the FBI investigative report released by the justice department.
Three of the soldiers then raped the woman, according to the report. She was then shot in the head a number of times. Her body also was burned, the report said.
All four members of the family were killed with an AK-47 rifle that the father kept in the house, the investigative report said.
The alleged atrocity comes to light just as the Pentagon deals with a number of serious war crimes allegations in Iraq, including murder investigations into the deaths of 24 civilians at Haditha in November.
In this instance, the alleged rape and murder emerged late last month when two soldiers came forward to say they had overheard fellow troops planning an attack on the young woman, and that the same men had later returned with bloodstained clothing.
The soldiers told investigators that they were motivated to come forward because of guilt.
At first, US military authorities had attributed the death of the family to sectarian violence. That explanation initially suited the relatives of the dead, who viewed the rape of the young woman as a stain upon the honour of the family, and did not want it widely known.
According to yesterday's Washington Post, the family did not hold public burials because they were so ashamed of the circumstances surrounding their daughter's death.
Although relatives have given permission for the bodies to be exhumed for the purposes of an investigation, one family member contacted by the Post was cynical about the enterprise.
"What is the benefit of publishing this story?" said Bassem, identified as the rape victim's uncle.
"People will read about this crime. And they will forget about it the next day." |
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General / Chat / Re: "Worst killing of Iraqi citizens since the war started"..
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on: July 04, 2006, 05:22:53 AM
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https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5142852.stm
Veteran faces Iraq murder charges
A former US soldier has been arrested and charged with killing four Iraqi civilians after raping one of them, the US Justice Department said.
Prosecutors say Steven Green, 21, and other troops raped a young woman before killing her and three relatives in Mahmoudiya, south of Baghdad, in March.
A military inquiry into the incident is the latest in a series into alleged abuses by US troops in Iraq.
Mr Green, a former army private, was arrested recently in North Carolina.
He faces a possible death penalty if convicted.
Shots heard
A statement from the US attorney in Kentucky says Mr Green is charged with going to a house near Mahmoudiya with three other people to rape a woman living in the house.
He allegedly shot and killed a man, a woman and a five-year-old girl and after raping another woman, he is alleged to have shot and killed her, the statement said.
According to an affidavit, Mr Green took the family into a bedroom, from where shots were heard.
"Green came to the bedroom door and told everyone, 'I just killed them. All are dead," the statement says.
Another affidavit said Mr Green, who belonged to the 502nd Infantry Regiment, had been discharged from the army "due to a personality disorder" before the rape and killings were known about, the Associated Press news agency reported.
The suspects belong to the same unit as two soldiers kidnapped, tortured and killed by insurgents south of Baghdad last month.
Some reports suggested that this event may have spurred soldiers to come forward with information about the killings.
Mr Green is due to appear in court at a detention hearing in Charlotte, North Carolina, on 10 July. |
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General / Chat / Re: Racist comment from Ukranian coach Blokhin
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on: June 29, 2006, 11:53:16 PM
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That's right. Pakistanis and muslims in general are amongst the most racist, sexist people anywhere on this planet. Yet we allow them to pursue this under the guise of " it's their culture ". What a double standard
If you're implying Muslims are racist against white people, you sound just like the nutty evangelists here in the US who apparently have never heard of Albanians, Bosniaks, or Circassians, all groups of Caucasian Muslims that have been suffering for decades in or next to heart of Europe. And don't even bring up Darfur. The aggressors there are as African as the victims of the genocide who are also Muslim. I would not suggest going down the road of many foolish Islamophobes who have been embarrassed by this fact.
Sexism? One would argue all the Abrahimic religions are sexist. Christian fundamentalists here in the US believe the woman's place is in the home and that their only purpose is to bear children. Neoconservative/cuntrag Ann Coulter doesn't believe women should have the right to vote. There is a Hebrew prayer whereby a man thanks God that he was not born a woman. Before modern times, in South Asia, widows were burned with their husbands after they died, as it was seen that they had no purpose after their husband was dead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice). And you're accusing Muslims in general of being the most sexist people on the planet? |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Muzzy Izzet retires
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on: June 27, 2006, 10:01:55 PM
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He should now go throw himself out a window.
Turkish aswell, which means even if he landed on his feet he would still go down holding his head. 
You would be describing Rivaldo at the last World Cup. 
Only half-Turkish. Kind of offended the article says "Turkish international." I think he played for the Turkish national team about only 3 times, twice coming on as a substitute and in his one start being subtituted out before half-time.
Alright person, but won't be missed as a player. |
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