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Football / NUFC / Re: Newcastle 2 - 2 Man Utd - Post match thoughts
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on: Yesterday at 07:19:41 PM
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In all honesty i thought that edgar, regardless of his goal, was superb! (i said hed played well at ht as well) he looked really composed, looks a better prospect than huntington. Lets hope it wasnt just a one off!
Dream day for Edgar. Pulled a Santiago Munez, he did.
Totally agree. I don't want to go over the top but he made very few mistakes and looked composed. |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Newcastle 1 - 1 Man Utd - 01/01/07 - Official match thread
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on: Yesterday at 06:09:55 PM
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| Fantastic strike from Milner - impossible to save and Sibierski should have scored on the stroke of half time although they could have scored 2 or 3 more. Great game for the neutral but not if you're one-eyed for the Toon. Can't ask for much more considering the circumstances. |
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Football / NUFC / Re: ***January Transfer Window Thread***
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on: Yesterday at 07:27:57 AM
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Beattie may be first to go as January sales begin Matt Dickinson, Chief Football Correspondent Newcastle United’s search for a target man is likely to lead to them bidding for James Beattie, the Everton forward who has been usurped by Victor Anichebe at Goodison Park. David Moyes, the Everton manager, responded to speculation that Beattie may move to Blackburn Rovers by saying that the striker was not for sale, but Newcastle are expected to test his resolve because Peter Crouch is unavailable. Beattie, 28, has fallen out of favour at Everton and the Merseyside club, who paid £6 million to take him from Southampton, would probably settle for about half that sum. Newcastle had looked at Miroslav Klose, as well as Crouch, but Beattie is a more realistic option as Glenn Roeder, their manager, looks for a big No 9 to play along-side Obafemi Martins. Shola Ameobi is a long-term absentee after hip surgery. https://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,293-2525895,00.html
He isn't exactly fast (what Roeder likes) and to be honest he looks fat wearing those tight Everton shirts but realistically he might not be the worst signing. He'll be 3rd or 4th choice when Owen and Shola return and he has a decent scoring record, at least he did have for a few seasons at Southampton:
https://www.jamesbeattie.net/playingstatistics.asp |
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Football / NUFC / Past and present
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on: Yesterday at 01:10:36 AM
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Geordies bemoan proud history lost in mists of Tyne
The current title favourites visit St James' Park today, 80 years after Newcastle's last league championship
Michael Walker
Monday January 1, 2007
The Guardian
Nelson Cairns can remember it, but he will be 94 soon. Tellingly, on Tyneside that is the sort of age you have to be. Much has been made of Sir Alex Ferguson reaching 65 at the weekend, but when Ferguson arrives at St James' Park today he will be struck by an anniversary of altogether greater magnitude: New Year's Day 2007 means that it is now 80 years since Newcastle United were champions of England.
"I have a very clear memory of the first game of the 1926-27 season," Cairns said. "At that time I was 12 years old and was visiting my aunt Hetty in Heaton. She had a family friend called Jack Riley and Jack asked me if I would like to go to the match with him. Newcastle beat Aston Villa 4-0 and Hughie Gallacher scored all four goals. I do not remember any particular celebrations - Newcastle had been quite successful in the previous 20 years - it just seemed a normal thing to happen. Actually, when I think about it now, it was the end of an era."
Those, indeed, were the days. When Newcastle beat Sheffield Wednesday on April 30, 1927 they clinched their fourth title in 19 seasons. Newcastle won two FA Cups in that spell, too, and lost four finals. In 1905 they were one lost final away from the first league and cup Double of the century. In terms of offside and the passing game, Newcastle were innovators.
"Intelligent, progressive, you could say they were the Ajax of their day," Roger Hutchinson said. "Where did that intelligence go?" Hutchinson is author of The Toon, a history of the club. He is also a believer, though inevitably one with a fair amount of doubt.
Eight decades of mediocrity, sometimes better, often worse, does that to supporters and yet when Manchester United reach St James' this afternoon there will be 52,000 waiting for them. It is an attendance figure that is now familiar but it should not be under-appreciated.
Old Trafford has endured its own title drought - from 1911 to '52 - but since then there have been 13, plus just a few cups. Everton, who beat Newcastle 3-0 on Saturday, have won seven titles since 1927. Those are solid, silver reasons why these clubs are well supported.
Usually Celtic and Rangers are the clubs compared to Newcastle for passionate fans, but Celtic's have been sustained by 23 Scottish titles since 1927. Rangers have won 88 trophies since 1927. That's a lot of good nights in Glasgow come May. Newcastle won three FA Cups in the 1950s and the Fairs Cup in 1969. That's four nights.
But still they come. "Ever since the 1890s when they took off," Hutchinson said, "Newcastle United have come to be a symbol of the region, a region that was cut off, and felt cut off, from the rest of Britain. It feels like pre-history but it's important because these are the foundations of the club.
"There is no alternative to Newcastle - from the Tyne Valley, north into Northumberland, east to Tynemouth and then down into Durham, plus the urban conurbation of Newcastle itself, this is an immense catchment area, unique in England I think. And the supporters are so loyal, even the slightest hint of success and they're there in tens of thousands. Everyone knows they will always turn up. You can't help but think that breeds complacency at boardroom level."
Cairns agreed: "The directors, managers and players all must take some responsibility. Probably the directors must take the lion's share of the blame. Certainly in the 1950s and 60s the directors did not seem to be in touch with the supporters."
In what seems an eerie example, on the way to winning the FA Cup in 1955 Newcastle City Hall staged a public meeting at which 2,000 members of the Shareholders' Association produced a vote of no confidence in the board. But still they came. The club had been part of Geordie identity for more than 50 years by then. The geography of apartness can seem exaggerated today but in 1927 and before it had literal meaning. The Tyne bridge had not been completed in 1927 and Geordies looked north as often as south.
That was how they got Gallacher, all 5ft 5in of him, from Airdrieonians. Made captain and No9, Gallacher scored 36 times in that championship-winning season and the Newcastle Daily Journal wondered if he did not possess "more than the usual complement of feet".
But Hutchinson asked another question: between Gallacher and the 1996 signing of Alan Shearer, name another world-class player bought by Newcastle? "Kevin Keegan was a big signing but he was past his prime, and Newcastle were in the Second Division. In the 1950s they had Jackie Milburn but he was local, not bought."
Hutchinson added: "And where is Newcastle's great manager, their Bill Shankly, Herbert Chapman, Bill Nicholson, Matt Busby? Keegan came close but he was never going to be Shankly. Bobby Robson was a major manager but he was not in his prime at Newcastle."
Historically, another reason for title failure cited by Milburn was the obsession with the FA Cup. In 1951, having beaten Wolves in the semi-final, Newcastle were fifth in the league, six points behind Tottenham with three games in hand. There were 13 games left and again it was all about Newcastle doing the Double. Newcastle won just three more times. In 1952 it was the same. But the Cup was won twice and Milburn admitted: "We stopped playing in league games after the semis."
The FA Cup had prestige then that it lacks now. Europe and the title have superseded it and but for Manchester United and Ferguson in 1996 Keegan would have ended the wait.
But that was last year's anniversary. This year's should be as painful as any. Newcastle are already 28 points behind their visitors today with their manager, Glenn Roeder, dealing with a sweeping injury crisis. Roeder is a rational man, someone who refuses to believe the club is cursed - "Bollocks" is his view of that - and someone who talks about infrastructure and long-term plans. It may yet work.
Whether Nelson Cairns sees it is another matter. "It never really occurred to me that I might not see Newcastle win another championship in my lifetime," he said. "But I'm not surprised that 50,000 fans turn up every week. I would be surprised, and disappointed, if they didn't. I do think Newcastle will win the Premiership some day but I do not want to predict when. It might bring bad luck."
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Football / NUFC / Re: ***January Transfer Window Thread***
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on: Yesterday at 01:07:35 AM
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According to this we're going to sign everybody:
And the rest... Ten other players tipped for big moves next month
Sunday December 31, 2006
The Observer
Matthew Upson
Birmingham Age: 27; Value: £8m; Position: defender
Ex-Arsenal defender with 18 months left on his Birmingham contract and no plans to see them through. So how good is he? Upson's in dominant form - but that's in a winning team in a poor division. Plenty of self-belief, though - and he's even caught Jose's eye.
Wanted by: Everyone. Villa and Blackburn have had him watched, Harry Redknapp says 'Upson's a good player, that's for sure', Spurs and Liverpool have made inquiries, Glenn Roeder's being coy, while Chelsea, West Ham, Fulham, Sheffield United and Wigan are also in the running. The price could be driven up.
Upson says: 'Whatever bid comes in, it's up to the Birmingham board whether they take it. They're in control and I'm contracted to them. I'm sure everyone has their price. I'll be keeping my phone on.'
Steve Bruce says: 'Why would we want to sell our best player when we're top of the league? Unless it's a crazy offer, nothing's happening.'
Co-owner David Sullivan says: 'Yes, there will be some players leaving us in January. Matthew's a good player but he wants a bigger club.'
Nigel Reo-Coker
West HamAge 22; Value: £8m; Position: midfielder
Alan Curbishley could have up to £20m to spend on West Ham's survival next month and doesn't need to sell his captain - but Reo-Coker is low on form, blamed by the fans for Alan Pardew's sacking, and says he's finding life 'stressful'.
Wanted by: Everton, Man United and Newcastle. Arsenal made a £7m inquiry in August but their interest appears to have cooled.
Reo-Coker says: 'I'm happy at West Ham. It will be down to the boss whether I'm here next year. I've no idea what is going to happen in January.'
Agent says: 'He's an ambitious player and like every ambitious player wants to play at the highest level. But he's 100 per cent West Ham until told otherwise.'
Micah Richards
Man City Age 18; Value: £18m; Position: defender
England wonderkid with massive scout/agent infestation: not likely to be at Eastlands long. Reports say he's set to follow Shaun Wright-Phillips to Chelsea reserves for £18m; City say he's going nowhere. Something's got to give.
Wanted by: Arsenal and Liverpool fancy the defender, too, but can't compete with Mourinho.
Richards says: 'I'm very happy to be a City player. I'm getting first-team football and representing my country. I can't ask for more than that.'
Stuart Pearce says: 'If I say no to any sale, then I'd hope it would mean the club says no too, otherwise someone else might as well be manager.'
Shaun Wright-Phillips
Chelsea Age 25; Availability: loan; Position: midfielder
Definitive proof that the Chelsea effect is bad for football. Plucked into obscurity for £21m last year, he's made 13 league starts. The consensus is that it's time for SWP to play some football again with a six-month Premiership loan.
Wanted by: Old club Man City, Newcastle ('He's a huge talent' - Glenn Roeder), Portsmouth, West Ham, Charlton and Arsenal.
SWP says: 'I don't read newspapers, to be honest. If people want to keep talking about me that's their problem, but I'm happy. The manager wants me to stay.'
Dad Ian Wright says: 'It's obvious the manager doesn't want him to stay. He's not getting a chance but he's raring to go. He should look at other options.'
Freddy Eastwood
Southend Age 23; Value: £2.7m; Position: striker
Hot property. Signed for Southend in 2004 and scored the winner against Man United in the Carling Cup. Last summer was a target for Championship sides including Palace and Derby - but now a move straight to the Premiership beckons.
Wanted by: Aston Villa, Charlton, Watford and West Ham.
He says: 'My main aim is to play in the Premiership. I think back to the United game in the cup and that's where I want to be, playing against the bigger clubs and the bigger players. Maybe one day I'll get there.' Steve Tilson: 'If Freddy goes in January, how do we replace him? But at the end of the day it's not up to me: it's down to the chairman.' What he means: 'Don't blame me when we go down.'
David Nugent
Preston Age: 21; Value: £5m; Position: striker
Definitively the most wanted striker outside the Premiership - but Preston's desire to hold on to him through the next month is strong. A seriously high bid, though - 'silly money' - won't be knocked back.
Wanted by: Half the Premiership, but Portsmouth are favourites. 'He's a player I like,' says Harry Redknapp. 'I'm sure Mr Gaydamak will sort something out.'
Nugent says: 'The chairman says he doesn't want to sell me. You can only wait and see if offers come in. I'm happy to stay at the moment.'
Chairman Dave Shaw: 'We could have sold him in the past three transfer windows. We have no intention of letting anyone go - unless it's the right deal.'
Giles Barnes
Derby Age: 18; Value: £2.5m; Position: midfielder
Born in Derby, made his breakthrough last season and has scored five from midfield this season. Signed a four-year contract in August after advances from several Premiership sides, but the interest keeps growing.
Wanted by: Newcastle. 'He's a great offensive player. I'm not giving away any secrets here,' says Glenn Roeder. 'A lot of top clubs fancy him.' Liverpool, Middlesbrough, Everton and Spurs have all had him watched.
Barnes says: 'I'm playing for the club I love and we're riding high. I can almost taste the Premiership and that's where I want to be. I know a few clubs are showing interest but I won't let it unsettle it me.'
Billy Davies: 'Barnes could leave here and not get a game elsewhere. But every player has his price, and we'd have to consider stupid money.'
Gareth Bale
Southampton Age: 17; Value: £7m; Position: defender
Southampton's latest wonderkid, tipped to follow Theo Walcott's lead by jacking in regular first-team football for a pay hike and a spot in a Premiership reserve squad. But he's not convinced it's the right move...
Wanted by: Spurs have made an initial approach while Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man United and Newcastle also want the left-back. 'It wouldn't surprise me if Bale went on to play 100 games for Wales,' says Glenn Roeder.
Bale says: 'There's a lot to be said for playing week in, week out in the Championship. I'm loving it and hope I can get into the Premiership next season with Southampton.'
George Burley says: 'I'm under no pressure to sell him, even at £7m. He has a lot to learn, he's not the finished article and he's staying here. I'm not worried about the transfer window.' What he means: 'I'm worried about the transfer window.'
Rob Earnshaw
Norwich Age: 25; Value: £4.5m; Position: striker
With 17 goals this season, Earnie's back to the sort of form that made his name at Cardiff. Failed once in the Premiership with West Brom, but reports claim at least three sides are ready to give him another go.
Wanted by: Sheffield United, Watford and, of course, Harry. Portsmouth need a striker - Redknapp says Earnshaw's his second choice after Nugent.
Earnshaw says: 'If clubs come in for me that shows I'm doing well. But I'm happy here - I want to stay through the transfer window.'
Peter Grant: 'The Premiership is the place everyone wants to play, but it'd take a hell of a lot of money to move Earnshaw. I want to keep him here.'
Steve Sidwell
Reading Age: 24; Value: £6m; Position: midfielder
Long-time contract rebel - and, despite some recent warm noises, Sidwell still won't commit. With plenty of clubs looking to import some young midfield quality next month, Reading face a battle to keep him.
Wanted by: Man City, Newcastle, Arsenal and Aston Villa.
Sidwell: 'I want to stay in the Premiership for the rest of my career with Reading - or another club. Not signing anything is the best thing for me to do right now.'
Steve Coppell says: 'Without doubt we don't want to sell him, and I don't think we will in January. But if he gets an offer I'd have to question it. I couldn't just let it happen. I'd have a serious sit down with Siddy and we'd talk about it.'
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Football / NUFC / Re: Silly season in full flow - Joey Barton
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on: December 31, 2006, 01:20:59 AM
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| I don't know if anyone's mentioned it but Roeder said in an interview on Radio Newcastle last night that he doesn't want to sign Barton as other areas are more pressing - then he started talking about our lack of forwards. |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Manchester United (H)- Pre match thread
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on: December 30, 2006, 05:33:05 PM
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Manyoo vs Newcastle United seems scary as hell,considring our current state i would go Given Solano Taylor Ramage Huntington Milner Butt Emre Luque (if duff is not fit,and if luque is not gone) Dyer Martins Subs: Pav Edgar Sibreski Parker whoever is fit post match prediction: won't be good to watch 
Ramage won't be playing. |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Everton vs Newcastle - Post Match Thoughts.
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on: December 30, 2006, 05:13:50 PM
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I actually think the performance will improve against Man U. Teams rarely get thrashed twice in a row and that feels like a match where we lose 0-1 and try to avoid depression by saying it was a good performance with the injuries we had and we were unlucky not to snatch a point.
I'm sure the "nil" part will be right. |
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Football / NUFC / Re: Everton vs Newcastle - Post Match Thoughts.
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on: December 30, 2006, 05:09:34 PM
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I'm very worried for Monday - Man United must be odds on to hammer us.
Henrik Larsson versus the mighty Peter Ramage. Huntington v. Rooney. Can't wait. Can't say I'm too worried about Larsson.
Larsson isn't registered but it won't make any difference. |
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