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...all scored quite class goals today - Jenas apparently with an amazing free kick. Newcastle is such a massively mismanaged club when these players who are clearly pretty good given the right kind of management are allowed to go to other rival clubs. Jenas suddenly looks the part at Spurs, it's really pretty gutting.

In fairness Bellamy is a brat, Ambrose should have stayed and as for JJ he has had 1 decent game and i good goal today, Spurs were shite first half, JJ wasn't special.

we've replaced them with better, simple as.

Fair enough, but it's still a bumer when you see former players performing well at other clubs. Didn't JJ score last week as well? I can barely remember him passing the ball forward for us, let alone finding the back of the net. And Bellamy was/is a nob but I still loved him when he played for us.

True.
Jenas, we got Emre and Parker
Ambrose, we got Solano
Bellers, we got Owen.

JJ will do the same with us. start well have one good season then go down hill from there.

we should of kept ambrose though and bellamy is injured 90% of a season anyway so ..

Hughes scored an own goal for Villa today..

From what I saw, and I will admit I didnt see all of the game, that was about all that Jenas did. Certainly for most of the second half he looked even worse than he did for us. Will look again at replays but first thought was that the wall let the keeper down with maybe Smith at fault but didn't get a good look at it slowed down.

Ambrose looked really dangerous and could have had 4. He would have been worth giving a chance up here I think.

Bellers came on late on and it was one of those chances he sometimes misses.

Robert had his usual selection of shots of varying degrees of accuracy and was taken off near the end. I did hear many boos and judging by his influence on play I doubt it was disappointment but who knows. Maybe he's a cult hero there or something similarly spelt at least.

what about the rest that left,more doing nothing than doing something, fact is they are no longer nufc players and therefore i dont realy care about them
what did o'brien, robert, milner, klivert, viana, butt etc do today?

Exactly how i feel, I dont care about them any more, They have flown the nest and aint coming back, There are 1 or 2 Ex Newcastle players i have a quick look to see how they are doing and thats the likes of Woody or when Solano was gone

Robert is hardly well loved.  I saw the second half, and Charlton went freely down the right side again and again, because there was little shape for Portsmouth there, especially with Robert not tracking back at all.  Took a shit corner, almost scored a spectacular goal, what the man really needs is competition.  Is his spot unthreatened there like it was here?

The ironic thing is that Bellers is going to outscore the statue that is Shearer this season without playing as many games!
Cheers Al, we know where we stand!

Christ sake Al is 35, Bellamy is about 25, He should out score him, But i bet he'll never break Shearers Premiership record!!!! IMHO Shearer shouldnt be first choice any more but he is and we have to live with it but why people still compare him against players in there prime i'll never know, 3-1 NYD i'll bet you Bellamy does out score Shearer when he was 25 back in 95,

Aye but remember when we sold him to Blackburn, this MB was swamped by idiots proclaiming that Shearer would easily outscore him this season-that aint going to happen. Those who use Shearer's age as an excuse are simply in denial
It pains me to say it as he has been (probably) the greatest player in my lifetime to wear the black & white but he's mugging himself off these days.End of.
However, I for one will never forgive him for his part in getting rid of our best player of recent years.

Getting rid of our best player, Who's that then?

Go figure eh?

I thought we were talking about Bellamy, Did Shearer tell Bellamy to fake and injury? Or tell him to go on live tv to abuse the manager? Or Text him after the FA Caup semi's?

arguments of shearer outscoring bellamy at the same age are very pointless. they're two different types of finisher. i bet sheringham never outscored shearer, but he has other 'strings to his bow' which shearer didn't really have. same as bellamy. i think this thread is a good one which points out some of the misfortunes we have had to suffer due to the wrong appointment of manager, and his continued stay of residence in the job.

Amongst the Owen euphoria I said that we would regret selling Jenas, that we were stupid not to heed Roberts assessment of the goings on at NUFC.
It is the Souness revolution that is ****ing this club up the arse.
George Burley has just gave Souness the last orders bell.

It was always obvious that selling Jenas was a decision we'd come to regret BUT it was clear that the lad wanted to go, so he probably should have done, and I don't miss him much.

The rest of 'em -- good riddance.

I don't think Jenas will do well at Spurs, a cracking free kick today but a great performance by any means, last yes he was very good. But it won't last and if it does so be it, he wouldn't have done well here, He faded under Robson and it continued under Souey, he didn't like in Newcastle so c ya Jermaine.

Of course all this is gospel eh pal?

Jenas -> Emre
Bellamy -> Owen
Ambrose -> Solano


I know which 3 I'd sooner have in the side.  All 3 were replaced. Move on.

have you heard of back up?

jenas made like 2 forwards passes all game. so i guess he did improve then.

Think you might have been watching with one eye closed. :wink:

Broke up play after play, more than Carrick and in the first half was Spurs' best MF by far.  The rest imposed themselves more in the second half and in the end Spurs could easily have won it.  Fortress Old Trafford is looking more and more like Fergie's Bouncy Castle.  A lot of teams going there will have a decent chance of leaving with a point.

a bit harsh on your own side. Spurs got a point cause they actually played well to get it, not because Manure were bad. just because they underestimated Blackburn and didn't beat SPurs, don't let that lull you into underestimating them just yet. they've still got great players and the ability to give any other team bar Arse and Chelsea a good trashing on any given day. Spurs made Manure look ordinary, and i'd put it down to the mentality and confidence that is changing at Tottenham, sorry to say, rather than the demise of Man U. Man U will still be top 3 at the end of the season.

As for Jenas, he still doesn't look like a 7m pound player, but the free kick was class just as the way he creeped into the opposition box unmarked last week. he didn't make as many wayward passes as his first few matches for Spurs and did in fact break up quite a number of Manure's attacking forays. overall no doubt his best performance for Spurs yet, but i always had the feeling he was a role player rather than a player who enforces his talent on the field. time will tell if he develops into a mature reliable midfield player, but at the moment imho he's still looking shaky and needing tougher midfielders alongside him to protect him. i think he still needs plenty of coaching. Souness was never going to get the best out of him. We'll see if Jol can.

fair enough, although my comment was partly cheek in tongue, he did okay in the first without being spectacular and most of his play was what we've seen at st james' all the time - backwards and sideways passes, didnt really look too eager to get involved in building up play but defensively was decent. didnt do worse than the rest of spurs' midfield though.

2nd half was pretty much the same until he scored that freekick. i was telling my friend as he lined up the freekick that if jenas scored from there i'll eat the table. couldnt believe my eyes when he put it into the top corner. after that he seemed to disappear from the game for a good 10-15 mins before realizing that the game was still going on and put in a strong tackle on scholes and set defoe free, probably his first significant forward pass all day. there was another when he sliced the ball with the outer of his foot to release keane on the left.

before the freekick it was pretty much the same old jenas we know but after the goal he was noticeably more confident and started to impose himself a bit. i thought he did well, certainly an improvement over his past season for us.

i think he'll do well for you lot this season. and while im unlike others here who seem to dread him doing well for spurs, you should probably reserve judgement until he can perform consistently week in week out, im not sure if he has the mental strength that's required.

Pretty fair all in all.  I said before I wouldn't slate him after his first few games and I haven't got overexcited about this week (or last week).  I'm happy to see how things pan out over the rest of the season.

Just hope everything goes well today for you.

I'm always interested in how ex players get on. Especially the ones who I rated.

For the record Craig Bellamy was our best player when we sold him.

Nice finish from Craig, calmly slotted it in. Blackburn could finish in the top 8 if they can stop the silly red cards and soft goals and Craig scores often enough.
Ambrose could've got atleast 4 goals against Pompey. If he can keep his place in the 1st team I think he could get around 8 goals. Larry should've gone to Bolton when he had the chance. He would either of flyed or dived at Bolton.

Hughes had a 'mare.

JJ should do better at Spurs. At Spurs he will have constant continuity. Can't really blame anyone for his goal, brilliant goal. the run up was slightly camp but a brilliant finish. JJ does need to impose himself more in matches. He never seems rushed, he sprints in little spurts, he doesn't run up to someone and take tackle them. That's what he needs to do. Even when he's playing well he doesn't impose himself, he doesn't likes to stay on the edges.

Are you actually for real?..


Obvious that we'd come to regret selling Jenas?, why?  Everyone here was desperate for the useless waster to go and in the end that is why he went.  Because our fans had found him out and he wanted a fresh start with fans that would put up with him for another few years.

Honestly its laughable how reactionary this forum is at times.  Jenas has been poor overall for Spurs, no better then he was for us in his bad times and not a shadow of the player he was for us at his best.  One decent free kick and suddenly he's god and we were crazy to sell, get a ****ing grip people.

Not enough strength left in midfield -- as we've seen. But as I say, if he wanted to go...