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First-half diagnosis?



Second-half diagnosis?



Full-time diagnosis?



Star man for United?



Worst United player?



Opposition comment?



Toon-pros?



Toon-cons?



Post-match feelings?

Mate I made topic already.

GET IN!!!!!! Great game, thought we deserved it. Defence was an absolute shambles in the first half, but were real solid in the second half.

My ratings from watching on tv:
Harper 7
Taylor 7
Gooch 8
Bramble 7
Baba 6
Solano 8
Parker 7
Butt 7
Milner 7
Oba 8
Dyer 8

Nevermind.

No you didnt idiot. You started a post match thread before the end of the game!! you seriously want shooting!

Thank f*** for that.

:lol:

Excellent result, enjoyable match which could've gone either way. Well done, lads, never suspected a result like that, tbh.

Roeder's celebrations:  ;D

:lol:, he started it before the end of the game the fool! talk about jinxing it!
Had Liverpool equalised it would have been an immediate permaban surely?!

Excellent result - just hope Solano isn't crocked. Onyewu looks decent too.

fantastic game. really buzzing after that. tbh i felt confident when i saw liverpool's lineup, they're not that special. saying that, they've been on a really good run recently and to come from behind to beat them is testament to our team spirit.

Is that us up to 9th then, over Blackburn?

Said we would win  O0

TABLE after the match:

7 Evert 26- 39
8 Ports 26 - 38
9 NUFC 27 - 36
10 Bbu 27- 34

:lol:

Newcastle United are the most bipolar football club in the World.

seeing Glenn Roeder jumping up and town and seeing the scoreboard at 2-1 to the toon almost brought a tear to my eye why can't we get results like this every f****** week ffs see them play like that againt liverpool but s*** against fulham pisses me off i think i love Gooch lol but seriously i said in the other forum he will be the rock in our defence hopefully for years to come

Made my day that has. No, made my week. f****** love it!

COME ON


Anyone see Martins I think it was jump up and down in delight at the final whistle? Brings a tear to the eye.

And Spurs nowhere to be seen.

We were a bit fortunate first half with Titus doing his usual and Bellamy terrorising, but second half we looked the better team for most of it and 'Pool ran out of ideas, tbh. Great win.

Again, what the f*** is that? One brick wall of words. Can you not type properly please.

Lucky result when you consider that there wasnt any penalty for us but im pleased with the 3 points O0
Bramble and Babayaro were poor as usual

Solano is needed - surely even Glenn can see that now ?
Happy with Gucci, mind (yes, I know thats not how you spell it - but he's class foot stuff isnt he ?)

Great result and great game. We didnt start well but 2nd half we were the better side, 8 games unbeaten at home and winning 6 of those.

Great result for us.

Again Glenn showing he is doing a very good job.

Roeder got it right then

dude, if it bothers you, dont read it. simple as that.

NUFC06 how was it a lucky result?

He can't

Oh give it a rest. Who honestly gives a f***? We just won a game, we just a beat a team who are far better than us, and you've got nothing better to do than moan at someone for how they type.

for my money babayaro played fairly well, bramble was good at times and terrible most of the time as usual. i'm happy to see onyewu playing well. our defence looked fairly solid after the break, sign of good things to come. 

Come on then the Roeder out possee?

Changed your fickle tune yet?

I don't understand how the defence seemed 200% more composed in the second half. It seemed we were playing a higher line, which you would've thought'd be trouble against Bellamy, but it seemed to focus the back four into actually being a unit.

Great result, Taylor looked excellent, midfield was solid. Obvious improvements could still be made in defence but we dont have the players at the moment to do that. Good move by Roeder leaving Duff on the bench.

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Sweet victory.




GR still a muppet though. :rolleyes:

self explanatory really why can't we play like that every week liked to see the scoreboard 2-1 against liverpool and GR jumping up and down and that Gooch will be the rock in out defence hopefully for years to come

I think he's referring to the penalty decision, and the number of missed chances Liverpool had in the first half.

So was it a penalty then?

There's more to it than just one semi-decent win. Not that I myself want him out at the moment, I'd rather wait to the summer and see where we finish.

Just my two cents:

Excellent second-half performance. Following the nature of the first two goals, I thought it was well-advised and acceptable that both sides resorted to long-ball tactics for various spells of the match. I thought that Milner might have had a few more pops at goal given how wet and windy it was. Both sides did really well, all things considered, and hosted a fantastic game. Playing out of defence was never really an option in those conditions with Bellamy and Martins at either end.

Bramble really imposed himself on the game in the second-half and looks to be getting to match fitness. No one had a shocker really - and this was against top-class opposition too in awful conditions. I thought our midfield was highly industrious and our attack penetrative.

It was quite funny to see the new Liverpool owner freezing his ass off at half-time. You could tell from his face he no longer cared about the match and he just wanted to survive the cold. Also heartening, was Nobby and Bellers at half-time.

I was quite disappointed with some of the diving, and from what I saw, I don't think it was a penalty [but once again, I'm not 100% sure about that]. Good game though, tough on Liverpool.

YES pen was a good decision

In my eyes? Yes. I'm biased of course, but Riise definitely caught Taylor and aside from that episode against Villa a few years back Taylor isn't the guy to dive or do anything like that. And to his credit he got straight up after the challenge too.

Quality result, chuffed to bits. Seeing my 'scouse' flatmate lost for words is brilliant!

Thought it was a dive tbh for the penalty.

Gooch looked good, really strong and some good clearing headers. Taylor had a good game at RB too.

:lol: hardly.

Honestly i dont think it was penalty especially when i watched the replay

But im glad that the ref gave it

And im really happy that we won

 ;D ;D

Whassat?

Well I only saw the replay properly once to be honest.

roeder out!

Just being generally pally and joking around. They did it during matchplay, too.

Semi-dive for the pen. Definitely left his foot there, but a good dive: certainly by Taylor's standards. ;D

Why were we wearing black armbands?

YESSSS~~~!! VICTORY~!!
Onyewu was solid as a rock and seeing Duff and Babayaro killing time made my day.
HAHAHA bet that wiped that ugly smile off Bellamy's face

Thought Bellamy behaved pretty decently throughout.

Ah right. Good to hear.

Nobby always comes across as everybody's best friend actually.

Out of respect to Anna Nicolle Smith apparently.

:lol:

Yee-ee-e-yee-e! Everybody say...Yee-ee-e-yee-e! I want more, say: Yee-ee-e-yee-e! Okey we won now let`s go! once more all you say: Yee-ee-e-yee-e!

ok then im a little scared

Still haven't seen the penalty incident. Missed it during the coverage. Taylor being the one involved isn' t filling me with confidence though :(

Newcastle,f****** hell..

U never know what your going to get next..

Anyway,my ratings for todays game :-

Harper,8 : The Bellamy goal was his fault,but made some fine stops and catchs that kept us in it

Babayaro,6: Fairly average,was better then usual though

Gooch,7 : its true what they said about him winning every ball in the air,fine peformence

Bramble,6: Made few mistakes but didnt get punished for them..

Taylor 7,: Nice peformence as a makeshift Right back,won us the penalty

Parker,8: My MOTM,superb peformence from the skipper

Butt,7: Fairly good

Milner,7: Looked far better then Duff in the left hand side

Solano,7: Good peformence,well taken penalty

Martins,8: Worked hard for his first,did well today

Dyer,7: Looked tired,still managed to be a threat on Liverpool's defence

Subs:

Duff,6: Not enough time,Did some good time wasting though
Sibreski,6: Some fine Tackles..

Overall team peformence,8.5: Very good home peformence,as a team we looked capable of causing threat and defending well,got to hand it to Roeder he really played his cards well today.

It was a penalty, Taylor did make the most of it like, but it was a foul.

Mel, to say Taylor isn't the type of player to take a dive is laughable though, dying swan x2, etc.

So it was someone else that didnt sign any full backs then ?
Someone else who dropped Nobby for Carr ?
Someone else who made a mess of two transfer deadlines ?
(Better that than waste untold millions like Souness, mind)

But - whats your problem of praise when its due and criticism when its due ?

Good result. I wasn`t at the match and i`m not going to form my opinions like some on here from radio commentry and a dodgey stream. I hope we are Match of the day on sky later.   I wonder how Micheal Owen felt, mixed feelings  I guess. I sent a message to Bramble " Do the business on Mickeys team" .   ;D

I'm pretty sure Riise thought it was a pen, so...

Just seen the penalty again and it was quite a lot more of a dive than I remembered, still a foul like... ....maybe... ...well who f****** cares really!?! :lol:

James Milner was the worst player on the pitch, after all he CANT play down the left !

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You say Harper was at fault for goal yet you gave him an 8!!!!!

Bet Marco Polo are pissed :lol:

oh yeah haha :lol: two home games running as well!

100% defo a pen... TV replays showed definate contact, Riise knew it was a pen...

Taylor didnt make the most of it, and he was basically back up and on the ball, before it had been given.

?

I mentioned that...

Fantastic result. Didn't see the game so won't cast my views on performance. Would like to hear a little bit more of an accurate view on Goochs performance and what do people think of Martins?

12 goals is bloody good with so many games still to play. I suspect he will get a few in europe when we return. Certainly looking like a good signing. Is 12 more than that off any Liverpool strikers?

Crouch has got 12 as well I believe

Game of the day n footy first

showing the 90 mins

Trevor Bennett (board member) popped off.

Gooch looked solid, in a shambolic defence (in the first half)

Put him with Taylor in the middle, and build on that for next season....
RB and LB still needed.

You mentioned the first one, but not the second and he's blatantly dived/cheated on a number of other occasions, I'm not going to hold it against him because it's not of Robben/Ronaldo proportions or anything, but to say he wouldn't dive is ridiculous.

He was fantastic despite the mistake,one of the main reasons we stayed in the game

I had absolute confidence in the team even when we were 1 down. Harper had an outstanding game, one mistake that cost us a goal but otherwise solid.

What time does football first start?

8.25pm

Why argue about the penalty? We won because of it. I couldn't care less if it should have been given or not, the fact is it was and Solano scored from it. That'll do me.

It will be interesting to see Shearer versus Hansen and Lawrenson on Match of the Day. You can bet the highlights will be edited to show how Liverpool were 'robbed'. Hopefully Shearer will stop being so diplomatic and will have a big grin on his face.

Would say Taylor is our only player who dives, can't actually remember any other players who do...

Merci.

Emre. Not so much diving (although sometimes) but staying down for ages all the time as if he's been shot. Annoying.

I thought it was a dive by taylor like.  I was right in front of it, and i was just about to shout at him for being stupid.  I'll be dissipointed if im right, but i dont have any sympathy for liverpool - they got bowyer sent off last year.

Got to disagree i thought harper had a very dodgy game, his kicking was abysmal but credit to him he did make 1 decent stop in the second half, cant think who it was off?

Clear contact, clear penalty imo.

Brilliant result, last 10 mins was pretty nervy!! Delighted with the win, will def breed confidence amongst the lads... 1st half we were pretty poor but 2nd half was great... 3pts and up to 9th spot - Happy Days...

It looked a definite penalty to me and the commentator on TV said it was one before the referee even signalled for it. Anyway, who cares? We won!

The strange thing about the 1st half...bellamy was like the focal point of the game, yet the defence just kep leaving him!  Bellamy shouldve had a hatrick.  But we improved in all areas as the game went on.

Do you remember when bellamy did that SSN interview he said "I physically just couldn't play at st james' in front of the geordies in another shirt.  I couldnt bring myself to do it"?  His celebration suggested otherwise.

We beat Liverpool in a very entertaining game and the main topic has been the Pen decision.

There was definite contact for the pen. To call it a dive would be harsh.

Watched the match at the Berkley Tavern (when it wasn't breaking up) and we did really well 2nd half.

1st half was a disgrace to NUFC (mainly the defending) and it was through pure luck we got the 1-1.

But good effort in the 2nd half, the fear drained out of our players, and we matched and in parts past Liverpool in play, not much though, a scraped 3pts we didn't deserve but achieved, and i really dont give a fuk as long as we got them.

Obviously an exagerration, but he definitely appreciates his time here and the fans.

I don't think he does.  I dont hate him as alot of people but i don't think he'd say anything +ve about us, only that we provided a stepping stone to bigger club.  If he really thought that i dont think he'd have directed his celebration at our fans.

Harper: 7

Taylor: 7
Bramble: 6
Gooch: 8
Baba: 7

Solano: 7
Parker: 8
Butt: 7
Milner: 7

Martins: 8
Dyer: 8

Nice victory but Roeder MUST put Taylor back in the heart of the defence, Solano RB and then toss Bramble :P

Yep, agree with the majority that we were awful in the first half and our defending was comic at best. Harps completely at fault for goal.
Martins worked his socks of today and got hus just rewards...

Tbh, I can't be arsed to discuss Bellamy ever again.

I will, owever, say that Agger was w*** today and thank God for Reina's insanity.

First-half diagnosis?

Liverpool in clear control, but we hung on and battled our way back into it.



Second-half diagnosis?

Thought we were marignally the better side - but we wanted it more.



Full-time diagnosis?

An unexpected win, but I'll take it. Well pleased with the fight that the team showed today.



Star man for United?

Gooch - was a tower of strength at CB.



Worst United player?

Probably Bramble.



Opposition comment?

Played some good stuff, but they didn't seem to want it as much as we did.



Toon-pros?

Effort, character and determination to drag themselves back into the game.



Toon-cons?

Bellamy gave the defence a hard time with his pace, but that was always gonna happen.



Post-match feelings?

Over the moon with the win !  8)

hahahahahahaha anyone seen the sky player ratings? f****** terrible.

Fancy posting them?

https://home.skysports.com/matchratings.aspx?fxid=298356&cpid=8&clid=4

link?

Skysports rating are a disgrace today

Blatently written by Phil Thompson.

lol Phil Thompson looked so gutted when the pen was given, everyone in that studio was taking the piss out of the look on his face :P

Ratings

Harper - 6.5 - At fault for the goal, kicking was poor at times... but otherwise was good

Taylor - 7 - Poor in the first half, better in the second. Got up well to win the penalty and made some crucial headers at the end.
Gooch - 8 - Its true, he wins everything in the air. Solid game overall. Keeps it simple. Extra 0.5 for being mistake free (a rarity for us).
Bramble - 6 - Same old
Babayaro - 6 - Average, considering this is his first game in a while. Dives in too easily for my liking.

Nobby - 7.5 - Still the best passer in the team. Good penalty
Parker - 7.5 - Strives in this sort of game. Wet surface gave him the extra zip in the tackle. Used the ball surprisingly well too. One volleyed pass to Milner(which he failed to control) on the left stood out.
Butt - 6.5 - Usual solid performance.
Milner - 6.5 - Tried hard, didnt happen for him.

Dyer - 7 - Full of running, caused Agger plenty of problems in the first half. Faded after the hour.
Martins - 7 - Few chances, used the ball okay still lack that bit of finesse in his game. Scored.

Subs
Sibierski - 6.5 - Came on, fought hard for the ball. Did well.
Duff - 6.5 - Didnt do much except wasting time by the corner flag. Did a good job on that though.

They gave bellamy and gerrard 8s.  Hardly noticed gerrard, and bellamy only did well at the start due to not being marked and he shouldve scored at least 2.  Anonymous in the second half.

I thought parker and martins were our best players.

Gerrard was nowhere to be seen most of the time, and he got 8? what?

Total mockery of the ratings for some of our players.

Gerrad got 8 because.....eeh.....he is Gerrard! Thats not good enough for you?  :rolleyes:

Quite obvious they didn't watch the game. 'Driving force' for Gerrard is such a default statement.

Babayaros brother died yesterday Roeder just said

taylor has had a couple of oscar winning performances over the last few seasons though.

how sad ,feel for him or anyone in that position and to play shows alot of guts considering the stick he gets off the crowd at times .

Theres a reason why he gets stick

Didn't see the game, so I can't comment on Babayaro's performance today. But it seems to me that  some fans are more critical of him then is frequently justified.

For example, over at the Sky Sport ratings (rubbish), the fan ratings of NUFC players are across the board higher than the ratings given by SSN--- except for Babayaro, who's scores are significantly lower. Fans tend to overrate their heroes and unduly criticize the goats. Fairly typical. He's often just a kickdog for fan frustration.

Not nearly as bad as some like to pretend-- consistently better for us than Carr has been this season.

(Anyway, I'd like to see both  of them replaced in the summer.)

Didnt waste anytime getting thier Justice for 96 banner out did they?

i thought baba had a good game today and so did bramble, however taylor and gooch is the defensive partnership in the middle imo

Baba was OK today and it was sooo nice to to see our LB as an attacking full back again!!!

oh man.. great game.. i believe this is our first win against a 'top 4' side under Roeder.. edit: chelsea last day :coolsmiley:
good to see the lads showing some character for a change

Brilliant result today.  Good to see Thompson so sick at his beloved Pool getting beaten.   He needs to remember that there are two teams playing and we beat you.     :)

Best midfielder in the world my ass.

I'm prepared to stand up and remain consistent. I hope Roeder is not still the manager at the end of this season. He is barely average at best and we win when we win despite him not as a rsult of him

Let me guess. Copyrights HTL?


 :lol:

Great game.

First half was shaky, but apart from a couple of bellamy chances, not too much to worry about.

Second half, they caused us no problems, and we caused one or two. Very hard fought victory. Very sad for Baba, he had a decent game.

The lad sat next to me put a bet on Bellamy to score first and us to win 2-1. He put 2 quid on and won £500. He was screaming at our players not to score another!!! ;D

Bollocks mate. I bet it's his fault if we lose. Therefore it's down to him when we win. He deserves credit and is doing a good job in my opinion.

I think baba's crap.  However, some people are ridiculous.  So many people seem like they want him to fail, they're just waiting to have a go.  One time he played a good ball down the line, but it curled.  Before it curled people were giving him abuse, they could at least wait til it's run its course.

Indeed.

Milner has always looked comfortable on either wing. Better on the right, yes, because of his crossing, but still very comfortable there.

Alot more than good enough as a backup for that wing.

didn't see the match, but some have said gooch did well--did he do any long throw-ins?

How old are you? Why you feel the need to lie on the forum is beyond me, tbh. No need.

Here is a link to what I actually said, which is different to what is said in your lie....
https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=35515.msg690722#msg690722 (https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=35515.msg690722#msg690722)

Which means, in simple terms for you to understand, that Milner on the left is like Taylor at RB, he can fill in but that's all. In my opinion.

COmpeltely right. Add Dyer up front, too.

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Stolen off Peasepud on Toontastic. :lol:

Youve merely changed your stance. No suprise there. Read this post of yours:

https://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=35585.msg692363#msg692363


Let me repeat what you said:

"Dyer and Milner arent good enough for the left. You can't just throw someone at a position and say 'hey presto', we've filled that gap on the left."

Heres what I said:

"Milner has always looked comfortable on either wing. Better on the right, yes, because of his crossing, but still very comfortable there. Alot more than good enough as a backup for that wing."

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Honestly, theres no arguements imo, Milner can play on the left as much as Owen can play up front or Given can play in goal.

We have a left wing backup, if everyone is fit - Duff.

Milner can do a job there for a game or two, but we will be less effective. We'll be even less effective with Dyer there - outside of the centre of midfield he really struggles to do what talent he has justice.

Aye, but the point of that discussion/thread was that it was a tad silly to spend 5mill and 70k per week on a backup player for the left wing, when we already have 2-3 adequate ones, whilst having not a single fullback good enough for anywhere near where we want to be, as well as being in the need for a good centreback AND a good forward.

Thats the measure of Roeders incredible stupidity, though.

Anyway, i knew what the point of the thread was, i just wanted you and HTL to stop fighting, You were upsetting the kids.

Let's not fight. We've beaten a good side. It's the sort of result that the players can really take some confidence from.

As others have said, the defence was transformed in the second half. They were a lot more aggressive. It felt like they were committing themselves as individuals more, relying on the fact that their team mates were covering for them. In the first half, it looked like they didn't trust one another enough.

We looked the better for Babayaro in there. He's not the greatest, but he's better than a teenage centre back.

He was today, but that is the first time i could have agreed with that comment so far. He's usually less use than a chocolate cock.

i thought Baba was pretty awful as usual today, everytime the ball was played to his side i panicked

that said, he's miles better than Ramage and Huntington

Just got home from the game - dont care who was crap or great, feckin great game - and 3 points!

Maybe baba isnt world class when defending but when I has got the ball he is very composed and almost everytime pass the ball to a Newcastle player unless Huntington or Ramage who give it away often with a long ball. Baba is our only natural left back but an average one of them, but until we get a new LB in I will support him....

Two sensible posts from me that you've linked to there, neither of which say what you claimed I said. Just keep the lies coming.

How old are you?

Aye, I agree with the majority on this one:
Baba ain't the best but he's certainly better than what we have had replacing him on the left wing up to now. Just the fact that he can pass the ball with his left foot gives him much more options and he CAN pass a ball instead of give it away to opposition players....

Ratings

Harper - 6.5 - At fault for the goal, looked ok no way near the level of Shay Given un surprisingly.

Taylor - 7 - out of position as a right back but dominant throughout in the air.
Onyewu - 8.5 - superb performance on his home debut, everything in his zone he was dominant in the air and in the tackle.
Bramble - 5.5 - got sucked out way too often and left the space for Bellamy to run into on numerous occasions.
Babayaro - 7 - decent return however he needs his match fitness back.

Nobby - 7.5 - same old Nobby neat and tidy and when there is a forward runner he picked him out.
Butt - 6.5 - not at his usual, got far too tight therefore rolled over and over again.
Parker - 9 - Colossal absolutely colossal overshadowed both Gerrard and Sissoko and was our most important and best player, not only did he win back the ball he used the ball fantastically spreading the play rather then his usual 10 yard and backwards passing.
Milner - 7 - workhorse performance but lacked the delivery in this game.

Dyer - 7 - caused Agger plenty of problems particularly first half with his movement and put Oba through for the goal.
Martins - 7 - plenty of running and showing for the ball at key times but lacked service. (scored)

you must be joking, Sissoko got the better of him time and time again

What lie are you on about?

You said Milner cant play left wing
"Milner isnt good enough for the left. You can't just throw someone at a position and say 'hey presto', we've filled that gap on the left."

Your words.

Just because you no longer have anything to stand on, youre trying to divert the arguement away from the subject towards me being a "liar".

Christ. Nothing like putting heart before head.

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I did not say Milner CAN'T play on the left, so you are lying, I'm not diverting anything. I lived near Leeds for 7 years and saw him play for them on the left so I expect I saw him well before you did, he did ok but he will always be limited on the left. He also played up front for them throughout most of his youth days, but he's not a natural striker either.

Be mature about it and do the right thing then it's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.

Somehow I doubt you will.

I thought it was a WUM, either that or we know that "scotty" posts on the forum. In case he does.......sod off in the summer.  ;)

Excellent performance, exellent win, a fully deserved one too, despite Liverpool's chances.

8.5, 9 - he's either a WUM, or one of those who think that 7 OUT OF 10 is an average score. Maybe he scores matches for the Sun.

most people rate 1-10 differently in terms of what they think is a average or poor number in a 1-10 score

I am one of those who thinks 7 out of 10 is a average score for me 6.5 is somebody who had a less then average game 

lots of people score it differently

by the way sorry for my ignorance but does WUM mean wind up merchant?

I genuinely don't get it. between ZERO and TEN, how is 7 average?

For me 1-4 is awful, 5 is disappointing, 6 is average, 7 good, 8 very good, 9 outstanding, 10 unbelievable.

because half of 10 does not mean average

like i said most people have a different view of average rate in a rating out of 10

anyway your main point was about my high rating of our Captains performance no?

Yes, it was. he played very very well, but 9 out of 10??

Mind, the 8.5 was MORE wrong.

yeah your probably right

read in the paper today that saturday was the first time Liverpool under Benitez had lost a league match after taking the lead. seems we are developing quite a team spirit under roeder.

Well it depends, the median average is obviously 5, but the mean average would depend on the 'normal' score for players. So I can see how people could consider 6 'average' in that sense - they're not talking about literally the middle of the scale.

correct

Was a good win hopefully we can continue it for the rest of the season which wont please sky sports.

Ssshhhhhh!

Husshhhhh!

:whispers: Our Glorious Captain is mentioned :whispers:

I'm sitting back down now.

True. Well done Glenn and the coaching staff.

Let's see what happens when the opposition doesn't motivate the players, if we start beating the lower teams then I might agree.

Always used 7 for a decent performance, 6 for just below that, 8 for good, etc, because thats what Championship Manager/FM have always used.

Majority of people who have a computer and are footie fans will have played that game, so it quite sensible to use the system that most are familiar with.

Football manager is the truth, so we should use their rating system :P

Average performance + team won = 7
Average performance + team lost = 6

Thats my experience from FM, dont ask me about tie :P

6 = average
7 = decent
8 = very good
9 =top-class, almost flawless
10 = world-class

This whole discussion just goes to show how daft it is people posting their ratings, seems people don't even agree over a criteria. By the time you add to that the idea that some people post ratings based off a radio commentary.......