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Your player ratings from today's game.

Given 9

Given 9

Others (who was there on pitch?) 4

Given 9

Everyone else 4

Given - 9
Luque - 6

Everyone else does not deserve to be rated.

Gerrard - 9 - Fantastic goal and fantastic elbows
Crouch - 8 - Well done, no longer a bean pole, you're a big man pushing over a player who's off balance.

given - 9
babayaro - 0
boumsong - 0
ramage - 2
taylor - 0
faye - 1
luque - 3
zog - 0
bowyer - 0
owen - 0
shearer - 1

subs

ameobi - 0
bramble - 0
solano -0

given - 9
babayaro - 0
boumsong - 0
ramage - 2
taylor - 0
faye - 1
luque - 3
zog - 0
bowyer - 0
owen - 0
shearer - 0

subs

ameobi - 0
bramble - 7
solano -0

Ref (for home team 10)

For awat team 2 (For missing Liverpools corner from Solano)

Given 8
Ramage 6
Taylor (Shouldn't of played)
Boumsong 4 (Bramble 5)
Faye 5
Luque 6 (Ameobi 5)
Bowyer 5
N'Zogbia 4 (Solano 5)
Shearer 5
Owen 4

Pretty abysmal all round bar Given.

Pretty generous tbh.

Given 9
Ramage 4
Taylor 4
Boumsong 4
Babayaro 3
Faye 4
Luque 6
Bowyer 1
N'Zogbia 5
Shearer 6
Owen 3

Bramble 6
Solano 4

Yes, considering all those numbers you gave were average.

Given 9
Ramage 5
Taylor 5
Boumsong 5
Babayaro 5
Bowyer 6
Faye 5
N'Zogbia 6
Luque 6
Shearer 6
Owen 5

Subs
Bramble 6
Solano 5
Ameobi 5

are you ****ing Alan Oliver now, Titus Bramble won ****ing everything today, he was ****ing great, outpaced Cisse, passing was decent enough, made so many important interceptions and tackles

given 8
Ramage 4
Taylor 5
Boumsong 3 - i wanna kill him
Bramble 8
Baba 4
Bowyer 5
zoggy 4
Faye 3
Luque 6
Shearer 5 - shudda inahilated Gerrard
Owen 4
Solano 4
Ameobi - who cares

I have to admit that Shay Given was very impressive. His handling was a bit off at times, but the save from Kewell was wonderful. I can't claim to be an expert on your side but from what I've seen he's your best player, bar perhaps Parker.

Ramage, the young defender....He really looked out of his depth. I don't know....I think the Owen money could've been spent more economically improving other areas of the pitch. He's a great player but as he showed at Anfield, he's not going to single handedly propel you to the biggest honours.

I'll just copy and alter the above.

Given 9, another day and another world class display.
Ramage 3, possibly worst display.
Taylor 5, another player rushed back?
Boumsong 2, he's no idea what he's doing or where he's playing.
Babayaro 4, not good but not as bad as some.
Faye 4, back to normal self.
Luque 5, did very little but other than Given at least he tried.  Not good enough considering his cost but still needs games.
Bowyer 2, terrible player.
N'Zogbia 5, did very little but at least managed a shot.
Shearer 4, did very little but was given nothing.
Owen 2, I can't remember him toughing the ball.

Bramble 6, possibly our best defender when he came on.
Solano 4, did nothing much but should have started.


Souness -10, shocking miss-management, Why make 5 changes you nugget?  go now.

All abit harsh on Bramble, came on and won everything and not once did he loose concentration. Fair enough he only played 50 minutes but he shouldnt be getting 4's and 5's. He did nothing wrong. Bramble - 8 only not a 10 because he didnt play the whole match.

exactly

anyone who fails to acknowledge that Titus was brilliant today doesnt deserve any respect

Souness-10

This is the best manager Newcastle have ever had!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont you agree Freddy??? blueupset.gif blueupset.gif blueupset.gif blueupset.gif blueupset.gif blueupset.gif blueupset.gif

Mick, you say why make 5 changes.

Would you rather have Elliott than Babayaro? Bramble than Taylor? Ameobi than Luque? The Parker one was forced on him, and the only one I question was Zoggy for Solano...and Solano didn't exactly pull up any trees with his performance did he? For what it's worth...

Given 8
Ramage 5
Babayaro 4
Taylor 4 (Bramble 5)
Boumsong 5
Bowyer 4
Luque 6 (Ameobi N/A)
Faye 5
N'Zogbia 4 (Solano 4)
Shearer 5
Owen 4

I wouldn't have played Taylor today, I wouldn't have played Bowyer on the right or dropped Solano.  We made 5 changes to a winning team, I wouldn't do that as the players looked lost.

I knew we'd lost the minute I saw that team selection.

Given - outstanding.

Bramble did very well when he came on, was nice to see Luque in action as well, put in a few dangerous balls and looked good when in possession.

Given - 9
Ramage - 5
Taylor - 3 (shouldn't have played, but still 3)
Boumsong - 4 (bramble 8)
Babayaro - 5
Bowyer - 4
Faye - 6
Zoggy - 4
Luque - 6
Shearer - 5
Owen 5

also, i'd like to ask graeme souness if he considers harry kewell, luis garcia, crouch, morientes, etc to be 'proper players'. kewell's not great, neither is garcia, yet they looked as though they were playing against children. sad really

Given - 9 - Outstanding. Kept the scoreline down.

Ramage - 3 - I suggested last week that he wasn't the player everyone is making him out to be, and sadly he proved it today. When I watch him play I always feel like he's doing just enough to scrape the grade, a decent tackler and not a bad reader of the game, but he leaves his winger acres of space time and time again and his distribution is not Premiership quality at all. he really lacks pace, so it would be sensible to stand a few yards off his man and give himself a head start, however he does this by drifting in, effectively handing over the whole flank to the opposition. His terrible distribution makes Solano's job so much more difficult and forces Nobby to drift infield looking for the ball. His distribution also frequently costs us possession.

Boumsong - 4 - I've been defending our centre backs lately, suggesting that our weakness in the full back positions gives them a very difficult task of covering the flank and marking the runner. I feel today that the same happened again, but that doesn't excuse either of the centre backs. Boumsong is a much faster player than Morientes and obviously felt he could stick tight to him safe in the knowledge that Moro was never going to turn him and run clear. However, he got lost in his personal battles with their forwards and lost sight of the bigger picture. I suspect he was given the task of man-marking by Souness, and if so that was a major tactical mistake against a side known for scoring goals from midfield.

Bramble (played 62 mins) - 5 - I thought he was our best defender today, although that's not saying much. He didn't do a lot wrong and read the game better than Boum. When we were down to ten men and chasing the game, Boum and Bramble sometimes found themselves defending 2 against 3. Under the circumstances Bramble did a good job.

Babayaro - 2 - Totally ineffective in defence and attack, his serious lack of pace was exposed throughout the game. Injury prone and not good enough. Left back is, without doubt, our priority position for January. In Wayne Bridge there is a quality and available replacement, the question is whether we can afford him or whether Chelsea want to loan him to us.

Luque - 5 - Along with Solano and the forwards, he simply had very little to work with. It's not that these four didn't try to run into space, in our own half we simply couldn't play three passes in a row and resorted to long balls. He showed some neat touches to take himself past Finnan although he's still not running full pelt and you could see when he came off near the end he was absolutely exhausted. The 85 minutes will have done him some good hopefully, and I look forward to seeing him running in full flight and playing further up the pitch where he belongs.

N'Zogbia (played 45 mins) - 6 - Although he was part of our overran midfield, I thought N'Zogbia, along with Given, was the only positive I could take out of today's game and I was amazed he was brought off at half-time while the totally ineffective Faye stayed on the field. At times he held onto the ball too long trying to take on too many players, but to be fair to him he almost always received wayward passes putting him under immediate pressure. We needed a player with great close control, someone who could retain possession in tight quarters and in the absence of Emre, Zoggy was our only player looking to take the ball forward and have a crack at Liverpool. He showed his promise in the first half as he skinned 3 Liverpool players in a very small space, lost possession to the 4th but immediately won it back again. He's a very promising player and was our only driving force in the first half.

Faye - 2 - Contributed very little to the game, his ball control was sloppy, his passing terrible. One of the main reasons we couldn't keep possession and he gave Liverpool's midfield a very easy ride. For me, he was our worst player throughout the game.

Bowyer - 4 - I haven't deducted points for his red, because it was an unfair red. Bowyer has never been a good passer of the ball, nor has he ever possessed a good touch, and in a game where our patched up midfield was struggling to maintain possession, he wasn't much use. It was a strange decision to play him right wing where he has never been comfortable, and he was slightly more effective when moved in the centre. But quite frankly, not good enough. When things are going well he can be a cracking player but when the team is playing bad it affects his game. Nevertheless, given the fixtures we have coming up we are going to need everyone available so let's hope the FA see sense and rescind his red card.

Solano - 5 - His introduction sparked a more positive game from us and we got a little bit of joy down the right flank. That was until Bowyer's red card, which left us chasing the game and leaving massive gaps everywhere. Our best spell of play, if you can call it that, came after Solano's introduction and although he didn't contribute much on the floor, his passes to the forwards were at least causing Liverpool some problems and making their defenders work. As with Luque and the forwards, he got very little service. With Ramage behind him and Faye to his left, is anyone surprised?

Shearer - 5 - He got very poor service, but made do with whatever scraps came his way and fashioned our only chances.

Owen - 4 - Very poor service as well, but saw even less of the game than Shearer as he's far less effective dealing with long balls.

Given 9 - Outstanding. One goal wasn't legal and the other was unstoppable.
Ramage 4 - His wing was easy today.
Boumsong 5 - A bad day.
Taylor 3 - He did nothing interesting for Newcastle.
Babayaro 4 - Not better than Elliot.
Luque 3 - This isn't the Luque I've seen hundred of times in Depor and Mallorca.
Bowyer 1 - I'll add him to my package "Go Out" (Shola + Bramble)
Nzogbia - 3 Useless
Shearer 6 - Decent performance. Boum avoided his 200th goal.
Owen 3 - Missing in action

Bramble 7 - Surprisingly good.
Solano 4 - Disappointing.

Given - 8
Ramage - 4
Boumsong - 3
Taylor - 3
Babayaro - 3
Bowyer - zero
Faye - 3
N'Zogbia - 3
Luque - 4
Shearer - 3
Owen - 3

Subs:

Ameobi - 3
Bramble - 6
Nobby - 5

Souness - minus 1

I agree with you. Some Liverpool players have played well (some defenders, Gerrard...) but rest of them have made an average match and, added to the referee's decisions, was enough to beat this bad Newcastle.

Given 9
Ramage 3
Boum 5
Bramble 7
Bowyer 0
Faye 1
Zoggy 2
Luque 4
Owen 1
Shearer 1