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I'd love it if we beat the scousers, love it!!

I'm f**king sick o death of them saying "owen will return" "he's really a liverpool great" "he's gonna sign for us" blah blah blah. The facts are he could have signed for either team or stayed at madrid and he chose NEWCASTLE UNITED. End of story. If he didn't want to be here, he wouldn't be here. Same goes for shearer,luque,emre,parker,given. They are Newcastle United Players and i for one think they are proud of it. Those going to anfield today will make one hell of a noise. Let's get behind the lads over this christmas period and lets get a top  finish this season.

HOWAY THE LADS!!!!!!!

Aye, bring it on you thieving scouse b@stard$!

Haway the lads!!!

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I FKN HATE YOU TELEWEST!!!!!!!  bluecry.gif bluecry.gif bluecry.gif bluecry.gif bluecry.gif bluecry.gif bluecry.gif bluecry.gif  blueupset.gif blueupset.gif blueupset.gif blueupset.gif bluesigh.gif

Why?

guessing they aint showing the match. Why doesn't he just go to a pub then?

how come all the papers have Luque to start?

and in Central midfield along with Emre?      blueeek.gif


Hope he is playing today.. its a big match all the lads should be up for, its a great shame parker wont be there.. hopefully he will still be in the dressing room to fire the players up though.

Most papers saying.












Bench: Harper, Taylor, N'Zog, Bowyer,Faye

Ive got a maths paper tomorrow, but who gives a damn eh :tongue3:

Been waiting a long time for this, hope it all ends up with benetiz having a boot up his arse.

A win would be absolutely brilliant but i'd be happy with a draw.

id go for

given

ramage  boum bramble  baba

solano emre faye luque

shearer owen

would prefer faye in midfield than ameobi "playing"

Too many player coming back from injuries - fitness and touch concerns me.
Will Luque be up to the workload? Maybe Faye in the middle and Luque out wide? That is, a 442.  Also Ramage migt be best to start - Carr maybe given 30 mins since he has been out for so long. Ramage defends quite well and Carr could be an attacking option later if needed. If Harry plays there will be some defending to do. Ramage for me then.
Howay lads. 3 points. Nowt less.

I hate telewest coz I have an overdue bill so they wont let me PPV the match, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr so I am off to me mams to watch it so won't be in chat :(
but will be getting to see the game :D :D
Does me in though coz I rang telewest last week to sort it coz I knew it was going to happen, and I was told not to worry it would be fine...

if all the players rumored to be fit again are, i'd go with this:

Given    mr reliable

Carr            better than ramage IMO
Boumsong  keep your head up son, doing canny
Taylor          the saviour is back
Babayaro    blueconfused.gif

Solano  another goal/assist please
Faye    deserves his place
Emre  make a fool of gerrard, son
Luque  must be fit now

Shearer  get that record
Owen  bluebiggrin.gif

Given - thank god hes still here
Ramage - played mint lately deserves his chance
Boom - hes getting better
Taylor - Clean sheet looks for closer now
Baba - if he plays properly we can win

Nobby - obvious , crosses corners etc etc
Faye - Got stuck in played well lately deserves a shot
Emre - Wonderman is back :D
Shola - Luque aint match fit shola has played well and wins free kicks etc give him a chance

Owen - i wonder why
Al - 200 maybe ??

Bring on Luque in 2nd half for shola or al ( if hes fecked) he can play up front or leftmid

If everyone gets stick in and plays properly we will win, need an arsenal type of performance stop them doing the short stuff then the long balls to the BFG , taylor and boom will sort him out.

Pool 0 - 2 Toon - emre , owen

Howay the ladddddddddddddddddddddds

I can only guess that the Bounsong comment is based on a sympathy vote rather than his actual game.  Watch him today and he'll probably be dragged all over the back, his positional sense and heading ability must improve if we are to get anything out of the game today.

I'd rather have Ramage playing than Carr.

I know its PPV but what channel number is that?

437

Cheers buddy!

You can find them all here https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/satellite/skyepg/

Nice one, that will come in handy

My nephew says we'll win 2-1, extra pocket money is riding on it.

So howay the lads.

We've got the better keeper and better strikers than them, but there defence is miles better and with out Parker in the middle, faye needs to play out of his skin today, he's been better of late but still no scotty parker, it could well be make or break for Faye in my eyes today with Jan window nearly here. Baba, Emre, Zoggy and Taylor can't be match fit but we need to take a chance with some of them today, as they are at the stage that they need games anyway. Luque should surely be fit by now!

I'd start with:

                        Given
Ramage Taylor  Boumsong  Baba
Solano  Faye        Emre        Ameobi
            Shearer        Owen

Subs
Harper
Bramble
Bowyer (i'd preffer clarky)
Luque
N'zogbia

Solano is very ineffective for me and i know most will disagree, but if he's having a poor game i'd stick either Luque or Zoggy on the left and switch Ameobi to the right!

N'Zogbia apparently has no idea what we are on about when we are singing his name

https://home.skysports.com/list.asp?HLID=348013&CPID=8&title=N

Given
Carr Boum Bramble Ramage
Solano Bowyer Emre N'Zog
Shearer Owen

Would be my starting line up. Otherwise Faye in for Zog, Emre on the LW.

Charlie Nicolas and Sky seem to think Owen is back at L'pool hmm

CHARLIE'S CHOICE

Michael Owen (Liverpool) - Obviously it will be quite an emotional day for Michael and not an easy one at all. I never had to go back to Highbury and face Arsenal, but I did it with Celtic and it is hard to retain your focus. You really want to go and do well against your old club and your old mates, but you can't get away from all the friends you have there, how much you love the supporters and that tends to take your edge away. Usually former players either go back and rob their old club or they end up having a stinker. Forget about Hyypia and Carragher knowing all about Michael as well, because let's face it, there is not exactly much to his game is there? But it is still remarkably effective and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a goal against his old mates.
Does Nicholas know? Owen to score first is 6/1 with Sky Bet Click here for full odds!

Thats very different to Souness' normal formation, if true it must be a tailored Liverpool away formation, wonder what he has in mind ? Can see how it may be intended to nulify the Liverpool midfield as Owen and Ameobi can drop into midfield in defence.

Its xmas so he thought he would try a tree

And he had to do it the wrong way, upside down.

Its the Souness way!




Shhhhhhhhhhhh......................

They'll never expect that one ;)

O:1  Alan Shearer

What time will the team be announced?

Yesssssssss


Murphy sent off for Charlton... Misses our game on wednesday :D

See the thread "TODAYS OTHER MATCHES"

good news for us, bad news for my fantasy football!

Already seen it,  thanks.

After listening Radio Newcastle, the team seems to be:


Given


Ramage Boumsong Taylor Babayaro


Bowyer    Faye    N'Zogbia Luque


            Shearer Owen


I don't know about the bench though.

Team news;

LIVERPOOL: Reina, Finnan, Riise, Hyypia, Carragher, Gerrard, Alonso, Kewell, Garcia, Crouch, Morientes.

SUBS: Carson, Cisse, Warnock, Pongolle, Josemi.

NEWCASTLE UNITED: Shay Given, Peter Ramage, Jean Alain Boumsong, Steven Taylor, Celestine Babayaro, Lee Bowyer, Charles N'Zogbia, Amady Faye, Albert Luque, Alan Shearer, Michael Owen
Subs: Steve Harper, Titus Bramble, Nobby Solano, Shola Ameobi, Robbie Elliott

So,  in summary.

Zogbia,  Luque, Taylor and Babayaro start.  Bramble, Nobby, Elliot and Shola dropped.  Bowyer gets a start.  Emre and Carr not fit enough yet.  Hamann misses out for 'Pool.


Really pleased to see Charles,  Luque and Taylor starting.

Why the hell Nobby is on bench and Bowyer starts?

I actually like the look of that side. Bowyer will offer a bit more steel out on the right up against Riise who'll attack a lot from full-back, and it'll keep Nobby fresh for Wednesday.

glad to see luque starts hope the lad proves all the muppets wrong who have writtem him off after TWO games.

Yeah,  not sure about the balance there.  Shola and Nobby out,  but Bowyer,  N'Zogbia and Luque starting?

I guess we'll go  Luque - N'Zogbia - Faye - Bowyer

Also,  we have to remember we've got 4 games in 8 days.  Maybe Souness feels it will be better for a fresh Solano to be playing against Charlton and Spurs,  whereas Bowyer is more fitted to getting in at Liverpool.

Ah **** it.

COME ON NEWCASTLE.

Worried about Faye and Zoggy in central midfield against Gerrard and Alonso. If we had Parker and Emre in there I'd feel a lot better.

Probably does prefer the idea of the aggressive Bowyer away rather than Solano, can see where he is comming from not wanting to play 2 creative wide players away, Bobby used to do the same thing.

What's wrong with Emre ? :(

Midfield doesnt look the best imust admit. Im a bit nervous now, lets hope Gerrard had a bad christmas and isnt up for the game

It just occured to me that Souey may intend to through Solano on toward the end when the game may open up a bit.

He may be trying a diamond shape,

        Owen  Shearer
              Luqe
Zog                          Bowyer
              Faye
Baba Tayloe BOum Rammage

Its propably not whats he's going to play but it's still a theory.

Surely it'll be Faye's job to sit back and cover the defense though, regardless of the formation.  But I can definetly see Solano coming on the 2nd half, be shocked if he didn't.

Emre not even on the bench! bluecry.gif

it could be:








Wouldn't surprise me away from home

Boum owes Given a beer...
Actually whole team owes him for the second save... :tongue3:

Hope the Boumsong fans out there just saw him get beat three times by the same man, in the same move.

He's ****ing useless.

nothing changes then.

So what is the formation ?

why isn't emre in the sqaud ???

Shit. 1-0 down.

Gerrard ..  hot knife through butter.

This can be very painful match.. 1-0 already and they are in TOTAL control

Well, a chance for Souey's side to show they can fight back.

Sadly we are lumbered with a quite shitty defence (it was only a matter of time before they conceded listening to it- I switched off. i had only listened to a couple of seconds and that was bad enough !) and no Parker.

good job crouch is crap ... :rolleyes:

same old same old as we get our expectations up only to be let down by a non existing performance???? its looking good.

I'm only getting the radio in my distant location -- and grateful even for that -- but it sounds like we are a total and utter shambles... and that's from a Toon-supporting commentary team.

This is embarrasing.

Total white wash so far.

Ref aint helping matters, having about 5 half fit players on the pitch cant be doing us any good.

I'd have rather stook with the settled team that has played the last few games.

Poor selection decisions by Souness.

Note to Ramage: When you lose possesson, don't just stand there and look to the sky in frustration, when the ball is still in ****ING PLAY!  :evil:

Bowyer looks the best Toon player.
Not Boum bashing, but he's awol.
midfield struggling. Still hope though cos they are working hard.

Note to self: Stop thinking Newcastle could perform and win a big game.

Great cross by Luque.

edit: Then he nearly scores taking the corner!

not twice in the space of a month anyway ... what were we thinking.

We've beaten Arsenal, that should do us for the season.

Chatroom not working for me so posting here, defence is in shambles, boumsong is constantly out of position, We keep ending up in panic situations where it just becomes a ball scramble in defence. shearer's doing alright up-front, making his aerial presence felt.

Taylor has done his shoulder.  Amazing.

Well done Souey. Yet again, play someone who isn't fit enough.

Bramble gets a big cheer from the Liverpool fans.  bluelaugh.gif

Taylor permanantly weakened for the rest of his career, nice one Souness. Die.

Why does Boumsong always stand and watch the ball bounce?

Boum  blueeek.gif Then babs brain explosions

What station is that? Century seems to be covering Middlesborough

is it still 1-0? :?

yup.
poss 65% Liv New 35%.
Need to ramp up the midfield.
Zoggs off Bowyer in the middle, solano wide right.

It might as well be 4-0 to me.

We've just lost Taylor for probably most of the season due to poor decision making from Souness.

And to top it, he's probably going to have that shoulder injury over and over again throughout his career.

So everytime his shoulder buckles, we can remember the day's that this thick Scouse bastid was in charge of our club, and led it to ruin.

Zoggy nearly scores from 30yards out.

Crouch 2-0 bluecry.gif

first shot on target  blueyes.gif  blueupset.gif

The club employs physios and a medical team whose expertise decide who is fit and who isn't.  Managers make decisions on the fitness of players based on the assessments of this team.  They must be held responsible for players being rushed back if they tell the manager that they are fit enough.

But then its all to easy to lay all the blame on Souness..

Three red shirts and Boum behind them, His man scores just.. Heads over the line by 2 mms.
Poor defending - leading up to goals  also. 2-0

we need a goal back seriously now and we might have a chance

Taylor's shoulder is worrying me. But yeah we hardly have any time of possession in the midfield, probably due to no parker. The ball keeps ping-ponging from defence to attack.  Blah just saw the second goal, horrible keeping by Given this time.

H/T should have been 3-0.
Again crouch had bags of room as Boum was ball watching.
How they messed it up...  blueupset.gif Terrible.

It is easy to lay the blame on Souness, he's been trying to rush Taylor back for weeks.

We've been absolutely rubbish in the first half - I can't think of anything positive to say. It could and should be much more and we are probably lucky it's only 2-0 - they've just missed an open goal as I type! With Taylor missing now for most of the season and Boumsong having yet another shocker (he's been all over the place) and Bramble getting cheered on by the Scousers! we are going to need to get a centre half, at least on loan in the transfer window. The second half can only get better, definitely not any worse. blueupset.gif

Disgusting performance yet again.

Excuse 33596336.7694 expected from Souness in about an hours time.

This is horrible.

Peter Fecking Ugly Crouch has just scored against my team. I'm fuking fuming, they should all be ashamed.

How much more do we have to put up with from Souness the loser?

Parker is sorely missed.

i cant remember one spell of possesion we have had :(

feel so sorry for stevie taylor, he got his shoulder dislocated and put into place again but the commentator says he gonna need an operation probably to make it right...

damn the physios, whats wrong with them rushing players back like this....cant fathom

outplayed n outfought n outclassed.  a 2-0 scoreline is very flattering to say the least.  not surprised if we are beaten 5 - 0. 

Just think a few seasons ago we were at the same level as liverpool then what happens both get new managers.

Just have to watch the game is obvious souness is clueless everything about our play is crap.

Bring Nobby on for Faye,  move Bowyer into the centre.  Not that that'll stop us being raped.

The club is run by a bunch of clueless monkey's.

These monkey's pick the manager, who in turns hires (or keeps them on) gorrilas as his physio's & Hyenas as his assistants and coaches.

Liverpool have played well, disappointing considering they should still be jet-lagged! Even so as good as they've been we've been bad in equal measure. Given should have saved Crouch's header but if it wasn't for him it could be 2 or 3 goals more.

"you should have signed for a big club" chant the scousers.

They're right, you know

That's my worry, i dont think i could take it.

Liverpool deserves credit because they have been great.

its weird isnt it .... seing a team actually pass the ball around quickly, neatly... we dont even do that at home.

Anyone would look great playing against 11 traffic cones.

This is a good match, that brings many people here back to reality.

Crouch scoring tells it all about our defence.

Look - we've had a few good results courtesy of Michael Owen, and poor finishing by the teams against us.
Boumsong is beyond bad. Bramble is back to his bad, bad old days. Full backs not up to it. No bottle to fight back.
How can you expect the rest of the team to get on with the job when they expect to concede at least 2 per game for chrissakes ?
And Souness and his imbecilic coaches must go. blueupset.gif

10 traffic cones, leave Given out of it as we would be getting slaughtered if it wasn't for him.  He's the only player who has looked bothered in the first 45 minutes.

I feel so sorry for the lad, you can see on his face he is thinking "FFS i deserve more than this surely!!"

The gulf in managerial class between Benitez and Souness is so large, it may actually be infinite.

The only, and I mean, ONLY, positive I take from the first 45 mins is that the Scousers haven't exactly put on the charm offensive to Owen, have they? 

Owen's body language is poor, though.  He does seem genuinely disappointed by the reaction.

It's not all down to our defence that we are getting beat, our midfield has been shite.  5 changes from last week and you can tell, we look to have 10 strangers in front of Given.

bluelaugh.gif class

I expect them to come out fighting, they better hit Liverpoll hard.
Zoggs off, Bowyer inside, Solano on, maybe even Ambeobi on.

I agree Mick, We miss Parker and Emre, Well Parker more. And people say we are a 1 man team

Solano on for N'Zogbia - should be a bit more balanced now.

Don't be stupid. Benitez has only won the UEFA cup and Champions League.

Souey has won the Turkish cup, so he's the greatest.

don't talk ****ing shite, Newcastle have been disgraceful

So your saying Liverpool hasnt been good?

precisely

Good save Solano, tips it round the post!  bluelaugh.gif

Solano gets away with a handball on the line. Could be about to get worse blueupset.gif

Hoping for Luque to score, confidence boost for him would be one good thing to come from the game

Boumsong blocks Shearer's goalbound shot.

Boum great save... of Shearer's shot. Would have been a goal. blueeek.gif

Boumsong's getting it from all sides...

Even the commentator just said, in response to Boum's leg blocking Shearer's shot, "That's arguably the best bit of defending he's done all day."

We are a bit of a joke today.

hmm at least Luque is looking good

take owen off

Boumsong seems to me to be so indecisive and completely lacking in confidence and especially positional sense. I know he's got personal problems but surely he must be better than this.

Agree, if we had some flair and passing prowess in midfield, he would of shone today.

Fight! Bowyer getting himself involved - again.

Crouch should be sent off.

Bowyer sent off for walking into Crouch's hands?

Terrible Ref WTF is going on!!!!

This is turning into an absolutely terrible day. I really hope Bowyer doesn't play for us ever again and gets sold in the transfer window. He's a complete liability.

according to sportinglife the red is for the lunge before the fight

Morientes has deliberately handballed twice and hasn't been carded. Shit ref.

CRAP. We had ten good minutes.. Bowyer maybe a yellow acrd but red is crap.
Crouch should ahve been red.
CRAP. Bowyer is a marked man.

What a disgraceful decision.

I also think Bowyer is singled out by the refs.

****in shite ref!!!!.... jesus... crouch a yellow but bowyer red? this not make sense to me... i mean the tackle wasnt _that_ bad but i thought attacking another player was a pure red card?(crouch pushing bowyer) maybe bowyer is paying for his reputation...

Referre should be fined!!! Gerrard grabbed Bowyer by the neck for f*ck sake

par for the course

STEVEN GERRARD - DISGRACE TO ALL FOOKIN FOOTBALL. That man is overrated as footballer and total prick.

First he pushed Shearer from back and then went to punch Bowyer. Fu.cking disgrace, would love to see him break his leg or something.

Can't really believe that that guy is CAPTAIN. What a brilliant role model, LET'S FIGHT AND BREAK LEGS, eh.

And Crouch - prick.

And referee - unbelievable..

Hate to be contrary but Shearer recently got away with grabbing an Arsenal player by the neck, on a side note, do you think there is bad blood between these teams ? Remeber Ambrose/Kewell flare up for a seemingly innocuous incident a while back, Rafa's comments about Newcastle weren't flattering

Crouch raised hands - automatic red card.

Gerrard raised hands to Shearer and then little head butt to Bowyer.

Totally shocking refereeing and needs to be an FA investigation.

Bowyer is a marked man.

In the end - the second half has been a better display.
I'm not a Souness hater - but he must take some blame for the midfield starting line up. Zoggs in the midle was sure to be over run by Gerrad and Alonso.Boums poor display hasn't helped either.
Luque has shown some promise, Bowyer before that silly decision was one of our better players. Owen has had a stinker.

From sportinglife did not enjoy reading this:

80 mins: This game is almost being played a walking pace now and Newcastle have as good as given up. It has been a poor display and the Toon army will go home gutted by this.

Seamus Given is perhaps the only reason Graeme Souness still has a job.  He's turned many a day where we could have lost 5-0 or more into mere 1-0 or 2-0 defeats...and thus saving a little face for the thick Scot in the process.

I hope he signs a new deal...but I'll wish him well if he decides he wants to abandon this rudderless ship.

I agree with the first part, but hope he has the good sense to move on and win the trophies he deserves.

I think the reason he's so good is the fact he gets a lot more practice than other goalkeepers!

Get a grip mates... what are you talking about.
Given stays.. no excuses..

FT, over to post-match thread everyone :(