Comments on: Nowhere Fast http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/ Giving NUFC fans a voice Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:58:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Norman http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-27961 Norman Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:38:33 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-27961 Well reasoned, well researched,accurate summation of past and present problems, I for one distant supporter(Geordie born & bred) made a statement to the local (Cobblers fans that BS would be in their division sooner than you think I just hope it won't be with NUFC. Very good article will watch for future content and also for future success of New Manager Hope they get the right Sparky for the job. Well reasoned, well researched,accurate summation of past and present problems, I for one distant supporter(Geordie born & bred) made a statement to the local (Cobblers fans that BS would be in their division sooner than you think I just hope it won’t be with NUFC. Very good article will watch for future content and also for future success of New Manager Hope they get the right Sparky for the job.

]]> By: Adam http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26606 Adam Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:14:19 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26606 Yup i fully agree with u there. I was at Wigan on Wednesday and altho we dominated the chants and the atmosphere was brilliant at the JJB, you have to say the players do have to take some blame. I think just about everyone who was in the away section noticed how lazy some of our players relli are. Viduka has a reputation and he certainly lived up to it. From about 10 minutes from the end our players wern't even tryin. I remember when someone miss-placed a pass they just stood there instead of trying to win the ball back. I was happy to join in the chant 'wer sh*t and wer sick of it' because most of the time it relli shows. I meen Wigan, cmon WIGAN. They should be a guarenteed 3 points home and away. Even Titus looked a decent player against us. I suppose the only good thing about the day was the brilliant support we showed by having more supporters in the away stand than the one opposite! Yup i fully agree with u there. I was at Wigan on Wednesday and altho we dominated the chants and the atmosphere was brilliant at the JJB, you have to say the players do have to take some blame. I think just about everyone who was in the away section noticed how lazy some of our players relli are. Viduka has a reputation and he certainly lived up to it. From about 10 minutes from the end our players wern’t even tryin. I remember when someone miss-placed a pass they just stood there instead of trying to win the ball back. I was happy to join in the chant ‘wer sh*t and wer sick of it’ because most of the time it relli shows. I meen Wigan, cmon WIGAN. They should be a guarenteed 3 points home and away. Even Titus looked a decent player against us. I suppose the only good thing about the day was the brilliant support we showed by having more supporters in the away stand than the one opposite!

]]> By: Brewcastle http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26603 Brewcastle Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:01:43 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26603 So true! Sam kills the joy in football. His style isn't entertaining at all... and fair enough he often lose. That's good for the future of football, but tragic for NUFC who have adopted this problem. So true!
Sam kills the joy in football. His style isn’t entertaining at all… and fair enough he often lose. That’s good for the future of football, but tragic for NUFC who have adopted this problem.

]]> By: Henks F http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26595 Henks F Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:41:16 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26595 A really good article. I fully agree with what you're writing, and for me there are just two reasons why we should NOT fire Big Sam. The biggest reason is that of continuity, as you mention, we won't get anywhere by changing managers every season. And the other one is, who do we replace him with? Is there really any managers out there with the quality of Keegan or Sir Bobby who wants what must seem as a very ungrateful job? Especially with the media slaughtering us fans instead of Allardyce! I honestly can't think of anyone. But I do think we should look abroad next time we're appointing, just look at Sven! A really good article. I fully agree with what you’re writing, and for me there are just two reasons why we should NOT fire Big Sam. The biggest reason is that of continuity, as you mention, we won’t get anywhere by changing managers every season. And the other one is, who do we replace him with? Is there really any managers out there with the quality of Keegan or Sir Bobby who wants what must seem as a very ungrateful job? Especially with the media slaughtering us fans instead of Allardyce! I honestly can’t think of anyone.
But I do think we should look abroad next time we’re appointing, just look at Sven!

]]> By: Jon http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26591 Jon Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:12:51 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26591 Great article, couldnt agree more with all of your comments. BS should never have been appointed in the first place, another cock up by Shephard. Allardyce has to go now, the recent performances have been total shite, we had 2 shots on target in the whole game against wigan. i can take playing well and getting beat, but getting beat and playing shite whilst showing fuck all passion, i cant. The chants for shearer at the wigan game were totally justififed, i know he is untried as a manager, but he knows the club inside out and all fans would approve of his appointment, i just hope Ashley takes notice. Great article, couldnt agree more with all of your comments. BS should never have been appointed in the first place, another cock up by Shephard. Allardyce has to go now, the recent performances have been total shite, we had 2 shots on target in the whole game against wigan. i can take playing well and getting beat, but getting beat and playing shite whilst showing fuck all passion, i cant.
The chants for shearer at the wigan game were totally justififed, i know he is untried as a manager, but he knows the club inside out and all fans would approve of his appointment, i just hope Ashley takes notice.

]]> By: Shah http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26555 Shah Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:22:14 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26555 Tom, Very strong and must I say thought-provoking article. I share your sentiments and believe so are the millions of Toon Army all around the globe. I for one, still not convinced that BS is the "saviour" and rightful successor to Keegan and Sir Bobby, who are totally legends. I guess those who welcomed BS appointment with glee are having second thoughts right now. They must be pulling their hair with the kinda of football the team is dishing out week after week. BS has asked for more time but during this transition, we should have at least seen improvements to suggest, yes the team is on the right path. The opposite is actually happening...we are still conceding silly goals at the back, no creativity from midfield and we are struggling at times infront of goals since BS wants Oba to be a winger. Frankly speaking, I'm sick of the chopping and changing the managers but we've never seen the level of play that we're expecting. Someone wrote in the Sun, to chop BS now is ridiculous but what more ridiculous is how the team is playing...I don't see the management will make any changes now and I see Newcastle's glass is half empty right now. Tom,

Very strong and must I say thought-provoking article. I share your sentiments and believe so are the millions of Toon Army all around the globe. I for one, still not convinced that BS is the “saviour” and rightful successor to Keegan and Sir Bobby, who are totally legends.

I guess those who welcomed BS appointment with glee are having second thoughts right now. They must be pulling their hair with the kinda of football the team is dishing out week after week.

BS has asked for more time but during this transition, we should have at least seen improvements to suggest, yes the team is on the right path. The opposite is actually happening…we are still conceding silly goals at the back, no creativity from midfield and we are struggling at times infront of goals since BS wants Oba to be a winger.

Frankly speaking, I’m sick of the chopping and changing the managers but we’ve never seen the level of play that we’re expecting. Someone wrote in the Sun, to chop BS now is ridiculous but what more ridiculous is how the team is playing…I don’t see the management will make any changes now and I see Newcastle’s glass is half empty right now.

]]> By: Parklington. http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26541 Parklington. Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:04:37 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26541 I read some comments recently by SA that the supporters want instant success and aren't really interested in sustainable development and I partially see where he is coming from. However there is a certain kind of basic performance that is expected from our sides and we have seen it very rarely this season. I read some comments recently by SA that the supporters want instant success and aren’t really interested in sustainable development and I partially see where he is coming from.

However there is a certain kind of basic performance that is expected from our sides and we have seen it very rarely this season.

]]> By: M http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26527 M Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:42:46 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26527 all good but who to get or who could we get realistically? all good but who to get or who could we get realistically?

]]> By: John http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26525 John Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:55:45 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26525 A well writen piece, full of what our side seems to be lacking at the moment...structure and common sense! I really can't see what Allardyce is thinking. Does anybody remember the hand full of games we have either played or reverted to 4-4-2 this season and how well we played and the goals we scored when this was applied? Allardyces biggest gripe is us not scoring enough goals, not creating or converting our chances, blaming this on the players....This is your fault Sam! Our biggest attacking threat, the player teams fear the most in our team in my opinion is Martins. A great player, great skill, great shooting (and heading for such a small lad) is played out on the wing, where he receives the ball next to the corner flag or touchline. OUr best attacking player this year is N'Zogbia, yet he is played in defence. Viduka is a good player, but he isn't very quick and so needs players in the middle to help him....put Oba there! Milner isn't the greatest at shooting lets all be honest, so why play him in a front 3, and on the left at the, so he has to turn back inside to get a cross in...and then because he has done this he often has to make another couple of turns to get the ball in, and by this time there are 2 or 3 defenders marking Viduka or Smith (whoever is up top that game). He also insists on playing his players, changing the 2 centre backs every game, and not playing players on past performance....take Emre for example, dropped when Barton was fit after playing well in previous games, and more recently Duff, a player obviously unfit, not ready to start and yet he is put in ahead of Martins. These are all poor decisions. Also, I'm not happy with this play Owen at all costs philosophy, as soon as he is fit Sam wants him playing, Martins never gets beyond 60 minutes when that passionless scouse is around and we all know Sam would rather start Owen. I say sell him. We all know it has to be 4-4-2 with Zog and Milner on their correct wings (left and right respectively), the centre midfielders picked on performance, but if Geremi is our club captain in my opinion he has to be first chouce centre midfielder as it is his best position, playing a more defensive thoughtful role with a more attacking player alongside him. OUr defence is good if its kept consistant, Enrique and Beye look good, Id play Taylor every game but I would trust Sams decision if he could make one and keep it. Same with the strikers, even though Id play Oba and Viduka as the first choice pair and Owen and Smith as second. Im just sick and needed to babble and get my opinion across somehow because the big fat stubborn manager we have certainly won't listen! Shearer help us! A well writen piece, full of what our side seems to be lacking at the moment…structure and common sense!
I really can’t see what Allardyce is thinking. Does anybody remember the hand full of games we have either played or reverted to 4-4-2 this season and how well we played and the goals we scored when this was applied?
Allardyces biggest gripe is us not scoring enough goals, not creating or converting our chances, blaming this on the players….This is your fault Sam! Our biggest attacking threat, the player teams fear the most in our team in my opinion is Martins. A great player, great skill, great shooting (and heading for such a small lad) is played out on the wing, where he receives the ball next to the corner flag or touchline. OUr best attacking player this year is N’Zogbia, yet he is played in defence. Viduka is a good player, but he isn’t very quick and so needs players in the middle to help him….put Oba there! Milner isn’t the greatest at shooting lets all be honest, so why play him in a front 3, and on the left at the, so he has to turn back inside to get a cross in…and then because he has done this he often has to make another couple of turns to get the ball in, and by this time there are 2 or 3 defenders marking Viduka or Smith (whoever is up top that game). He also insists on playing his players, changing the 2 centre backs every game, and not playing players on past performance….take Emre for example, dropped when Barton was fit after playing well in previous games, and more recently Duff, a player obviously unfit, not ready to start and yet he is put in ahead of Martins. These are all poor decisions. Also, I’m not happy with this play Owen at all costs philosophy, as soon as he is fit Sam wants him playing, Martins never gets beyond 60 minutes when that passionless scouse is around and we all know Sam would rather start Owen. I say sell him.
We all know it has to be 4-4-2 with Zog and Milner on their correct wings (left and right respectively), the centre midfielders picked on performance, but if Geremi is our club captain in my opinion he has to be first chouce centre midfielder as it is his best position, playing a more defensive thoughtful role with a more attacking player alongside him. OUr defence is good if its kept consistant, Enrique and Beye look good, Id play Taylor every game but I would trust Sams decision if he could make one and keep it. Same with the strikers, even though Id play Oba and Viduka as the first choice pair and Owen and Smith as second.
Im just sick and needed to babble and get my opinion across somehow because the big fat stubborn manager we have certainly won’t listen!
Shearer help us!

]]> By: Mick http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26514 Mick Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:11:51 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.org/2007/12/27/nowhere-fast/#comment-26514 Now is the time to get rid of Sam. He has bought too many mediocer players & played too many players out of position. His tactics are non existant.He is building a championship side with the second rate players he has bought just like a manager of old Gordon Lee who built a second division team & that is where we finished up.He is not the man for the job he done nothing for Bolton. dont know where people get the idea that he is a good manager. If he stays dont give him any money in January he will just waste it on journeymen who nobody else wants.The only good buy he has made is Alan smith who is best played as a striker but Sam insists on playing anywhere but.Mike ashley should get his cheque book out & pay him off before it is too late.I have followed Newcastle for over fifty years and this is some of the worst football i have ever seen. Now is the time to get rid of Sam. He has bought too many mediocer players & played too many players out of position. His tactics are non existant.He is building a championship side with the second rate players he has bought just like a manager of old Gordon Lee who built a second division team & that is where we finished up.He is not the man for the job he done nothing for Bolton. dont know where people get the idea that he is a good manager. If he stays dont give him any money in January he will just waste it on journeymen who nobody else wants.The only good buy he has made is Alan smith who is best played as a striker but Sam insists on playing anywhere but.Mike ashley should get his cheque book out & pay him off before it is too late.I have followed Newcastle for over fifty years and this is some of the worst football i have ever seen.

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