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		<title>By: Benny</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19315</link>
		<author>Benny</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I don't think any bodies comments on hear can be deemed as negative. I think people are just saying it as they see it.

It maybe a good start in terms of a points total, sadly we cannot dismiss the fact that we are being managed to fail in away games.

I think your assessment of Geremi and Emre is without substance. I could say Geoff Thomas played in centre midfield for England so he cannot be that bad, we all know he was chutney. I think Barton will come good for sure.

I'm not sure if you are under the impression that we play possession football, I'm certain we don't.

I'm up for getting behind the team and the manager as much as anybody else I have never booed Newcastle off the pitch and I always support the team. But I think in the cold light of day we have to speak our minds and say what we think, if we don't analyse our team displays and discuss our managers tactics is there any point in supporting Newcastle?

All I'm doing is Saying what I See.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any bodies comments on hear can be deemed as negative. I think people are just saying it as they see it.</p>
<p>It maybe a good start in terms of a points total, sadly we cannot dismiss the fact that we are being managed to fail in away games.</p>
<p>I think your assessment of Geremi and Emre is without substance. I could say Geoff Thomas played in centre midfield for England so he cannot be that bad, we all know he was chutney. I think Barton will come good for sure.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you are under the impression that we play possession football, I&#8217;m certain we don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m up for getting behind the team and the manager as much as anybody else I have never booed Newcastle off the pitch and I always support the team. But I think in the cold light of day we have to speak our minds and say what we think, if we don&#8217;t analyse our team displays and discuss our managers tactics is there any point in supporting Newcastle?</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m doing is Saying what I See.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19290</link>
		<author>chris</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19290</guid>
		<description>The next two games are crucial - cliched and hackneyed a situation it may be, but it is true.

Home to Portsmouth - possibly one of the strongest and in-form teams to come to St James' so far this season. We need a strong home display, and getting 3 points would see us in the Euro places, and all doom and gloom would be lifted.

Next away game, I believe, is Sunderland. They will be up for it, make no mistake. And, if we repeat the tactical nonsense witnessed at Reading, we will lose. Simple as. I await in horror our next tactical switch, which will probably be putting Milner on the left, benching the Zog again, Smith back on the right, where he does nothing of value, and Owen up front on his own.

You just know that is what we will do, with some silly excuse afterwards about trying to match Sunderland physically or something. Whereas, if we played a proper 4-4-2 'home' formation we could be 2 up at half time and have nothing to worry about. So what if we lose that way. It is better than getting zero points and looking stupid.

wwww.worldrecordsearch.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next two games are crucial - cliched and hackneyed a situation it may be, but it is true.</p>
<p>Home to Portsmouth - possibly one of the strongest and in-form teams to come to St James&#8217; so far this season. We need a strong home display, and getting 3 points would see us in the Euro places, and all doom and gloom would be lifted.</p>
<p>Next away game, I believe, is Sunderland. They will be up for it, make no mistake. And, if we repeat the tactical nonsense witnessed at Reading, we will lose. Simple as. I await in horror our next tactical switch, which will probably be putting Milner on the left, benching the Zog again, Smith back on the right, where he does nothing of value, and Owen up front on his own.</p>
<p>You just know that is what we will do, with some silly excuse afterwards about trying to match Sunderland physically or something. Whereas, if we played a proper 4-4-2 &#8216;home&#8217; formation we could be 2 up at half time and have nothing to worry about. So what if we lose that way. It is better than getting zero points and looking stupid.</p>
<p>wwww.worldrecordsearch.com</p>
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		<title>By: Parky</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19288</link>
		<author>Parky</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19288</guid>
		<description>Steve A,

I don't think you can brush away two clueless away performances against teams who are the divisions strugglers as the supporters being negative.

Are you actually trying to explain what posession football means?

Here's the news...We don't play posession football.



I thank you,


Parky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve A,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you can brush away two clueless away performances against teams who are the divisions strugglers as the supporters being negative.</p>
<p>Are you actually trying to explain what posession football means?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the news&#8230;We don&#8217;t play posession football.</p>
<p>I thank you,</p>
<p>Parky.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve.A</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19260</link>
		<author>Steve.A</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19260</guid>
		<description>Stop with all off the negativity.
Is this not the best start to a season since the keegan years? Yes
Is this not a new manager? yes
Is this not a whole new team? Yes

Regarding players. Geremi played on the right wing for Real Madrid so he cant be that bad. Emre was the creative midfield meastro behind a Turkey team that finished 3rd in a world cup. Barton is the all round captain we have been looking for. 

Playing possesion football is ok,The opposition cant score if they dont have the ball. We just failed to keep the ball. It happens to every team. Look at liverpool on sunday they had 33% of possesion,they were never going to win.
We have players who will fight for the cause. That is what all fans have been asking for. Smith,Barton,Butt will not like getting beat at all.

So am i TELLING yes TELLING all fans to take a moment. Take stock of the situation.Look at Spurs, they prove there is no right to win anything and if we win our game in hand we go above liverpool and 1 point behind chelsea.

Would you have taken that after 10-11 games.
I would.

Give Big Sam and the players your support.
Lets not get down on them already.

Think positive and positive things will happern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop with all off the negativity.<br />
Is this not the best start to a season since the keegan years? Yes<br />
Is this not a new manager? yes<br />
Is this not a whole new team? Yes</p>
<p>Regarding players. Geremi played on the right wing for Real Madrid so he cant be that bad. Emre was the creative midfield meastro behind a Turkey team that finished 3rd in a world cup. Barton is the all round captain we have been looking for. </p>
<p>Playing possesion football is ok,The opposition cant score if they dont have the ball. We just failed to keep the ball. It happens to every team. Look at liverpool on sunday they had 33% of possesion,they were never going to win.<br />
We have players who will fight for the cause. That is what all fans have been asking for. Smith,Barton,Butt will not like getting beat at all.</p>
<p>So am i TELLING yes TELLING all fans to take a moment. Take stock of the situation.Look at Spurs, they prove there is no right to win anything and if we win our game in hand we go above liverpool and 1 point behind chelsea.</p>
<p>Would you have taken that after 10-11 games.<br />
I would.</p>
<p>Give Big Sam and the players your support.<br />
Lets not get down on them already.</p>
<p>Think positive and positive things will happern.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19257</link>
		<author>Benny</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19257</guid>
		<description>Paul,

I would like to give any manager a few seasons to get a settled squad which he could genuinely call his own. Sadly I don't think that is a realistic possibility in today's game.

Sam has been quoted today as saying today "I don't know what my best side is yet". Fair comment, except if he doesņt realise that Zog and Milner should be in his side it could take seasons before he works his best side out.

Even scarier is his theory of if we beat pompey we will be on 20 points after 11 games. Hence using this as a solid bench mark after 33 games we will be on 60 points with 5-6 games remaining. Nice theory Sam, but have you not realised at home or away we have not played any of the big teams (Arsenal, Man u, Chelsea, Liverpool)? 

Sorry lads but this Bloke is a massive worry, if that's how he thinks we will achieve a points total he has just reinvented the wheel. Another possibility is he is buying time by pulling things out of his hoop because he thinks we are stupid??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I would like to give any manager a few seasons to get a settled squad which he could genuinely call his own. Sadly I don&#8217;t think that is a realistic possibility in today&#8217;s game.</p>
<p>Sam has been quoted today as saying today &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what my best side is yet&#8221;. Fair comment, except if he doesņt realise that Zog and Milner should be in his side it could take seasons before he works his best side out.</p>
<p>Even scarier is his theory of if we beat pompey we will be on 20 points after 11 games. Hence using this as a solid bench mark after 33 games we will be on 60 points with 5-6 games remaining. Nice theory Sam, but have you not realised at home or away we have not played any of the big teams (Arsenal, Man u, Chelsea, Liverpool)? </p>
<p>Sorry lads but this Bloke is a massive worry, if that&#8217;s how he thinks we will achieve a points total he has just reinvented the wheel. Another possibility is he is buying time by pulling things out of his hoop because he thinks we are stupid??</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19203</link>
		<author>Paul</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19203</guid>
		<description>Benny
 Valid point, i would agree that at the start of the season we should pencil three points in for these games and it angers me when we do get beat by these lesser teams, iam not saying Sam is the man but surely he has to be given a few seasons to prove himself, and although we should aim to be playing for a top five finish personally i feel the squad is still short of achieving this esp in midfield were there is a serious lack of creativity. Overall though for what he has spent on players he has done well in bolstering what was a bloody awful team last season. Things can only get better, well thats after the mackem game anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benny<br />
 Valid point, i would agree that at the start of the season we should pencil three points in for these games and it angers me when we do get beat by these lesser teams, iam not saying Sam is the man but surely he has to be given a few seasons to prove himself, and although we should aim to be playing for a top five finish personally i feel the squad is still short of achieving this esp in midfield were there is a serious lack of creativity. Overall though for what he has spent on players he has done well in bolstering what was a bloody awful team last season. Things can only get better, well thats after the mackem game anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19190</link>
		<author>Adam</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone want to bet on the Evening Chronicle coming out with an issue around thurday with a trio of either Butt, Smith or Milner saying 'We will bounce back'?? Im getting sick of this, we bounce back then get beat on the road only for us to bounce back again. Our consistancy is horrific, one week a good top 8 team then the next a mediocre bottom half side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone want to bet on the Evening Chronicle coming out with an issue around thurday with a trio of either Butt, Smith or Milner saying &#8216;We will bounce back&#8217;?? Im getting sick of this, we bounce back then get beat on the road only for us to bounce back again. Our consistancy is horrific, one week a good top 8 team then the next a mediocre bottom half side!</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19173</link>
		<author>Benny</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19173</guid>
		<description>Paul,

I don't think we have a divine right to anything.

I think our manager should be aiming for more than a 10th/11th spot finish. I think he needs reminding that he's at Newcastle, not Bolton. Also aiming for a point at the likes of Derby and Reading are not acceptable.

I think I speak for the majority when I said play to win. 

I agree an "i want it and i want it now" attitude is not what we need I just want to be able to walk out of any away ground and think we had a really good go, under Sam this is not possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we have a divine right to anything.</p>
<p>I think our manager should be aiming for more than a 10th/11th spot finish. I think he needs reminding that he&#8217;s at Newcastle, not Bolton. Also aiming for a point at the likes of Derby and Reading are not acceptable.</p>
<p>I think I speak for the majority when I said play to win. </p>
<p>I agree an &#8220;i want it and i want it now&#8221; attitude is not what we need I just want to be able to walk out of any away ground and think we had a really good go, under Sam this is not possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Pricey</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19171</link>
		<author>Pricey</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19171</guid>
		<description>Whilst agreeding that Rome wasn't built in a day ( if you've been there recently you will notice that it is still work in progress) I do worry about Sam's selections away from home and in particular his substitutions when chasing a game. Having been present at both the Derby and Reading debacles certain worrying patterns do emerge.

The cry of square pegs in round holes certainly rings true. The attempt to contain and play on the break will only work if you have some pace to break with. Starting at Reading with four central midfield players was doomed to failure once the goal was conceded. It is the substitutions that confused me. If we are chasing surely you keep your forwards on. Take off Geremi (another Chelsea reject drawing wages he's not worth), Butt (Dreadful first half with colour blindness problems when passing the ball) and Emre (if he's a central midfield maestro then I am Johann Cruyffs illegitimate love child). Keep Martins on, play Smith either behind the front two or alongside Owens with Martins being given free rein. Milner and Zog are a given seeing as they are our two best players. This is a team that could chase and has pace and fire power. Taking off Martins and delaying Milner coming on was ridiculous.

Why is Sam so timid away from home?

He has too many midfield players something that Roeder had a problem with as well. Duff is due back in November so confusion in this area will reign even more. The Premiership is all about pace - just look at Arsenal and Man Utd. At Reading there were too many pedestrian players on the pitch. 

As far as I'm concerned Duff,Emre and Geremi are not worth the wages and could be despatached with minimal impact on the team.

Sam needs to show some bollox and win on the road. A defeat in the village of the Damned could turn things rather ugly and guarantee the end of his honeymoon period (did I hear someone mention he used to play for the Mackems........).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst agreeding that Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day ( if you&#8217;ve been there recently you will notice that it is still work in progress) I do worry about Sam&#8217;s selections away from home and in particular his substitutions when chasing a game. Having been present at both the Derby and Reading debacles certain worrying patterns do emerge.</p>
<p>The cry of square pegs in round holes certainly rings true. The attempt to contain and play on the break will only work if you have some pace to break with. Starting at Reading with four central midfield players was doomed to failure once the goal was conceded. It is the substitutions that confused me. If we are chasing surely you keep your forwards on. Take off Geremi (another Chelsea reject drawing wages he&#8217;s not worth), Butt (Dreadful first half with colour blindness problems when passing the ball) and Emre (if he&#8217;s a central midfield maestro then I am Johann Cruyffs illegitimate love child). Keep Martins on, play Smith either behind the front two or alongside Owens with Martins being given free rein. Milner and Zog are a given seeing as they are our two best players. This is a team that could chase and has pace and fire power. Taking off Martins and delaying Milner coming on was ridiculous.</p>
<p>Why is Sam so timid away from home?</p>
<p>He has too many midfield players something that Roeder had a problem with as well. Duff is due back in November so confusion in this area will reign even more. The Premiership is all about pace - just look at Arsenal and Man Utd. At Reading there were too many pedestrian players on the pitch. </p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned Duff,Emre and Geremi are not worth the wages and could be despatached with minimal impact on the team.</p>
<p>Sam needs to show some bollox and win on the road. A defeat in the village of the Damned could turn things rather ugly and guarantee the end of his honeymoon period (did I hear someone mention he used to play for the Mackems&#8230;&#8230;..).</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19164</link>
		<author>Benny</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/10/27/a-pragmatic-mis-reading-of-the-script/#comment-19164</guid>
		<description>Paul,

I do not have an attitude of "i want it and i want it now", I do not think many Newcastle fans have. I was merely saying Sam is showing a lack of ambition by aiming for a tenth/eleventh spot finish. 

I think it's realistic for a club of our size to be going for 5th spot in the league, not a "divine right", but realistic.

I also said that we expect our team to play to win, something that Sam is clearly not prepared to do away from home.

Maybe the right man but definitely at the wrong club..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I do not have an attitude of &#8220;i want it and i want it now&#8221;, I do not think many Newcastle fans have. I was merely saying Sam is showing a lack of ambition by aiming for a tenth/eleventh spot finish. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s realistic for a club of our size to be going for 5th spot in the league, not a &#8220;divine right&#8221;, but realistic.</p>
<p>I also said that we expect our team to play to win, something that Sam is clearly not prepared to do away from home.</p>
<p>Maybe the right man but definitely at the wrong club..</p>
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