Comments on: Ice Man to buy the Toon? http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/ Giving NUFC fans a voice Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:14:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: random http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13983 random Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:42:11 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13983 This is exactly what we don't want at Newcastle - we need stability and sense, rather than yet another tabloid circus story. The new owners seem rational and sensible, and I like the way they're managing the club so far - reducing the debt, spending a bit on players, getting the money we deserve for the players we sell, and just being careful and sensible rather than trying to make ridiculous headlines all the time, or splashing out big money on average players (a la West Ham). In short, the team of Allardyce and Mort seems to be working - we've got a few good signings in (and there may be one or two more to come), now we need time for them to settle without ridiculous amounts of pressure and uncertainty. A lot of posters seem to think it's all about the money they spend on players - this is just rubbish. In the Shepherd era we spent a lot of money on players, and look where it got us. It's not about Hollywood signings and staggering wads of cash, it's about building slowly and carefully and sensibly, with a long-term plan in mind, rather than constant short-term changes of faces that get us nowhere. Stick with what we've got, in short, and stop getting so impatient that you'd welcome some more strangers through the door just because they'd be willing to spend money on players (which is an unknown regardless - no one knows how much they'd be willing to part with). This is exactly what we don’t want at Newcastle - we need stability and sense, rather than yet another tabloid circus story. The new owners seem rational and sensible, and I like the way they’re managing the club so far - reducing the debt, spending a bit on players, getting the money we deserve for the players we sell, and just being careful and sensible rather than trying to make ridiculous headlines all the time, or splashing out big money on average players (a la West Ham). In short, the team of Allardyce and Mort seems to be working - we’ve got a few good signings in (and there may be one or two more to come), now we need time for them to settle without ridiculous amounts of pressure and uncertainty.

A lot of posters seem to think it’s all about the money they spend on players - this is just rubbish. In the Shepherd era we spent a lot of money on players, and look where it got us. It’s not about Hollywood signings and staggering wads of cash, it’s about building slowly and carefully and sensibly, with a long-term plan in mind, rather than constant short-term changes of faces that get us nowhere. Stick with what we’ve got, in short, and stop getting so impatient that you’d welcome some more strangers through the door just because they’d be willing to spend money on players (which is an unknown regardless - no one knows how much they’d be willing to part with).

]]> By: Jon http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13975 Jon Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:43:04 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13975 Now they are saying in the Icelandic media that according to bulletproof sources Jon Asgeir is not in the group to buy Newcastle, but only Palmi Haraldsson. And yes I believe he is a fan of Newcastle and not that interested to buy Manchester City. Now they are saying in the Icelandic media that according to bulletproof sources Jon Asgeir is not in the group to buy Newcastle, but only Palmi Haraldsson. And yes I believe he is a fan of Newcastle and not that interested to buy Manchester City.

]]> By: LAS http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13959 LAS Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:24:41 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13959 To Pete, he (Jón Ásgeir) was found not guilty of these corruption charges. To Pete, he (Jón Ásgeir) was found not guilty of these corruption charges.

]]> By: leo http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13958 leo Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:09:01 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13958 Yeah but Freddie Shepherd was a fan of Newcastle United, we have to remember that, but his business mind was crap. Ruined our club from the foundations. Ash and Mort are the best thing for United in that department and so is Sam Allardyce in his respective dept. Yeah but Freddie Shepherd was a fan of Newcastle United, we have to remember that, but his business mind was crap. Ruined our club from the foundations. Ash and Mort are the best thing for United in that department and so is Sam Allardyce in his respective dept.

]]> By: davecbr http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13952 davecbr Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:53:20 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13952 I'm not sure if it really makes all that much difference if the board changes but it would be if wholesale changes were made to the team management. Now that we've got probably the best English manager going who is building up his technical support staff and systems I'd be incredibly worried if he went because of a boardroom coup. So my take - not too bothered just so long as Sam and his team are retained. If the Icelanders are fans of the Toon then that's an advantage. I wouldn't class Mort or Ashley in that category - possibly a good business team but not fans. If the Icelanders fall into both categories then I'd be happy with that. I’m not sure if it really makes all that much difference if the board changes but it would be if wholesale changes were made to the team management. Now that we’ve got probably the best English manager going who is building up his technical support staff and systems I’d be incredibly worried if he went because of a boardroom coup. So my take - not too bothered just so long as Sam and his team are retained. If the Icelanders are fans of the Toon then that’s an advantage. I wouldn’t class Mort or Ashley in that category - possibly a good business team but not fans. If the Icelanders fall into both categories then I’d be happy with that.

]]> By: toonsyd http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13949 toonsyd Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:34:10 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13949 i hope nothing comes of it, we need stability at the club - not another circus season. i hope nothing comes of it, we need stability at the club - not another circus season.

]]> By: Shearyadi http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13944 Shearyadi Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:11:22 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13944 Buy and then sell it again? These rumours are disgusting. After the Chinese consortium now Ice Man, what is next....Fantastic Four? Buy and then sell it again? These rumours are disgusting. After the Chinese consortium now Ice Man, what is next….Fantastic Four?

]]> By: Pete http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13942 Pete Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:57:41 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13942 Well if you Google this guy Jon, Asgier, you'll get his rep but you'll also see this link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4648259.stm Its a BBC link saying this guy might be up on corruption charges, so NO CHANCE do we want him buying out beloved TOON! Also, to answer someone's question above, if Man City's onwer gets time for Fraud, Man City will be relegated to the Championship, same as what happened to Juve in Serie A. C'mon Ashley, please tell us this is NOT true! Well if you Google this guy Jon, Asgier, you’ll get his rep but you’ll also see this link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4648259.stm

Its a BBC link saying this guy might be up on corruption charges, so NO CHANCE do we want him buying out beloved TOON!

Also, to answer someone’s question above, if Man City’s onwer gets time for Fraud, Man City will be relegated to the Championship, same as what happened to Juve in Serie A.

C’mon Ashley, please tell us this is NOT true!

]]> By: Irwin http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13941 Irwin Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:27:05 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13941 I would be disturbed if we lost Chris Mort. I would be disturbed if we lost Chris Mort.

]]> By: Archie Brand http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13936 Archie Brand Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:50:08 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/08/19/ice-man-to-buy-the-toon/#comment-13936 So how much would Ashley accept for the club, if he's already rumoured to have turned down a deal that would have netted him an instant 20 million profit (which we'd all agree is hardly worth getting out of bed for)? So, what would be better - an Ice Cool Icelander or invisible Ashley? MAybe they'd prefer to go for someone like Man City who could be up for sale again very quickly. If Man City's new boss, Tahksin Shinawatra is extradited by Thailand on corruption charges and they freeze his assetts, what happens to City? So how much would Ashley accept for the club, if he’s already rumoured to have turned down a deal that would have netted him an instant 20 million profit (which we’d all agree is hardly worth getting out of bed for)?

So, what would be better - an Ice Cool Icelander or invisible Ashley?

MAybe they’d prefer to go for someone like Man City who could be up for sale again very quickly.

If Man City’s new boss, Tahksin Shinawatra is extradited by Thailand on corruption charges and they freeze his assetts, what happens to City?

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