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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11820</link>
		<author>Mike</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First - Bluf Purdi - remarks on sacking the managers.  Too bloody right.  Couldn't agree more.

Second - we really should be optimistic, not because I believe big Sam can bring us CL football regularly, but because we are in a much better position than we were 12 months ago.  Not difficult I know, but it's still progress.

Big Sam has really impressed me with his philosophy, and there are reasons why we should be thankful he's here.

He can attract players, get the best out of them, can motivate those not playing well (just imagine - Luque, Carr and Baba could be our star men this season!) and he's not afraid to bring on the youths and give them a chance.  Good stuff.

But there's one thing the club should look at and it's the youth set-up.  It may be a personnel thing, it may be a lack of talented players, but let's just copy Arsenal etc. 

The tyneside area's a huge region and we're the only club in it - we could have a conveyor belt of talent if we wanted.  Other clubs like the London ones, Midlands, Manchester and Liverpool all fight it out with other clubs.  That's a huge advantage we have over many of our rivals (in terms of support too) that we should take advantage of.

Also regarding personnel - sorry but I just don't feel safe with Terry Mac, Pearson and Clarkie at the club.  They're the old regime - get Sam's men in.

Another reason to be cheerful is the fact our new owner is british.  Dont want to sound like Basil Fawlty but you just never know with foreign owners, will they stick around when the going gets tough.  Just feel there's more chance of Ashley doing that than the Pompey guy or the yanks.

As for progress, we need a mix of youth and experience - and yes we do need star players on big wages if we are to break the so-called top 4.

But let's face it when we do we're at an advantage over every other club because we've the biggest fan base, the most passionate support and the biggest potential.  Just imagine if what'd happened to Liverpool under Shankly had happened to us 40 years ago.  With our support we'd have been a true european giant, maybe the biggest club in England.

We sometime underestimate our size.  Let's not - we're massive.  And we need to think big to get to where we belong.  Not a partizan argument - if you look back at it and try to be reasoned anyone can see that we are streets ahead of Spurs, Villa, Everton and Chelski and could easily match Arsenal and Liverpool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First - Bluf Purdi - remarks on sacking the managers.  Too bloody right.  Couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>Second - we really should be optimistic, not because I believe big Sam can bring us CL football regularly, but because we are in a much better position than we were 12 months ago.  Not difficult I know, but it&#8217;s still progress.</p>
<p>Big Sam has really impressed me with his philosophy, and there are reasons why we should be thankful he&#8217;s here.</p>
<p>He can attract players, get the best out of them, can motivate those not playing well (just imagine - Luque, Carr and Baba could be our star men this season!) and he&#8217;s not afraid to bring on the youths and give them a chance.  Good stuff.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s one thing the club should look at and it&#8217;s the youth set-up.  It may be a personnel thing, it may be a lack of talented players, but let&#8217;s just copy Arsenal etc. </p>
<p>The tyneside area&#8217;s a huge region and we&#8217;re the only club in it - we could have a conveyor belt of talent if we wanted.  Other clubs like the London ones, Midlands, Manchester and Liverpool all fight it out with other clubs.  That&#8217;s a huge advantage we have over many of our rivals (in terms of support too) that we should take advantage of.</p>
<p>Also regarding personnel - sorry but I just don&#8217;t feel safe with Terry Mac, Pearson and Clarkie at the club.  They&#8217;re the old regime - get Sam&#8217;s men in.</p>
<p>Another reason to be cheerful is the fact our new owner is british.  Dont want to sound like Basil Fawlty but you just never know with foreign owners, will they stick around when the going gets tough.  Just feel there&#8217;s more chance of Ashley doing that than the Pompey guy or the yanks.</p>
<p>As for progress, we need a mix of youth and experience - and yes we do need star players on big wages if we are to break the so-called top 4.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s face it when we do we&#8217;re at an advantage over every other club because we&#8217;ve the biggest fan base, the most passionate support and the biggest potential.  Just imagine if what&#8217;d happened to Liverpool under Shankly had happened to us 40 years ago.  With our support we&#8217;d have been a true european giant, maybe the biggest club in England.</p>
<p>We sometime underestimate our size.  Let&#8217;s not - we&#8217;re massive.  And we need to think big to get to where we belong.  Not a partizan argument - if you look back at it and try to be reasoned anyone can see that we are streets ahead of Spurs, Villa, Everton and Chelski and could easily match Arsenal and Liverpool.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11771</link>
		<author>Mark</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11771</guid>
		<description>Some good points made by everyone here. It seems that there are not too many expecting Sam to win the League next year or in the next 5 years - which is probably right. I worry about buying old players since they reflect short term gains. They also reflect Big Sam's philosophy at Bolton. Unfortunately we are not Bolton, we are bigger than Bolton, and we are expecting to break into the Big 4 at some time. The immediate philosophy, to me anyway, is that a top 6 target is our goal from now until the foreseeable future. It will be interesting to see if Big Sam will manage the extra jump needed to get in amongst the big boys since he has failed so many times before. That's what poor Roeder was going on about in his recent rant, albeit ham-fistedly. But Big Sam is lucky. Not only did he have a conniving back-stabbing Chairman get him his current job but the back-stabbing conniving fat controller was sacked before Big Sam had to do the "him or me" ultimatum. Even better he has only got to compare himself to what Roeder did last season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good points made by everyone here. It seems that there are not too many expecting Sam to win the League next year or in the next 5 years - which is probably right. I worry about buying old players since they reflect short term gains. They also reflect Big Sam&#8217;s philosophy at Bolton. Unfortunately we are not Bolton, we are bigger than Bolton, and we are expecting to break into the Big 4 at some time. The immediate philosophy, to me anyway, is that a top 6 target is our goal from now until the foreseeable future. It will be interesting to see if Big Sam will manage the extra jump needed to get in amongst the big boys since he has failed so many times before. That&#8217;s what poor Roeder was going on about in his recent rant, albeit ham-fistedly. But Big Sam is lucky. Not only did he have a conniving back-stabbing Chairman get him his current job but the back-stabbing conniving fat controller was sacked before Big Sam had to do the &#8220;him or me&#8221; ultimatum. Even better he has only got to compare himself to what Roeder did last season.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Lishman</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11725</link>
		<author>Matthew Lishman</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An indication of how we need to keep our feet on the ground. I'm not for all of your methods and technicalities, but the 'stay calm' factor of your article perhaps needs to be outlined further at this time; at this rate there are a large percentage of supporters that will be disappointed come May. Good read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An indication of how we need to keep our feet on the ground. I&#8217;m not for all of your methods and technicalities, but the &#8217;stay calm&#8217; factor of your article perhaps needs to be outlined further at this time; at this rate there are a large percentage of supporters that will be disappointed come May. Good read.</p>
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		<title>By: Anikin</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11710</link>
		<author>Anikin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11710</guid>
		<description>The difference is he hasn't spent much really and he has proved he is an excellent coach. Souness' buys were actually good (Parker, emre, luque and owen) but the club needs good management and that is what we have got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is he hasn&#8217;t spent much really and he has proved he is an excellent coach. Souness&#8217; buys were actually good (Parker, emre, luque and owen) but the club needs good management and that is what we have got.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluf Purdi</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11690</link>
		<author>Bluf Purdi</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11690</guid>
		<description>I fully agree with those that think we should be very patient with Allardyce, we should.  He's got a proven track record of building a side and meeting his ambitions over a certain length of time.

However, I often have to laugh at those that moan about previous sackings.  Are people seriously suggesting if we were a bit more patient with Gullit, Souness and Roeder, we'd be any closer to success?  It's the very fact that we were NOT patient with them that has kept us in the league.  The problem in the past hasn't been sacking managers too early, but hiring managers with no track record of success, as well as hiring simpletons.  

Give Big Sam time, but the previous sackings were needed, not sure why the point is always brought up as if they weren't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with those that think we should be very patient with Allardyce, we should.  He&#8217;s got a proven track record of building a side and meeting his ambitions over a certain length of time.</p>
<p>However, I often have to laugh at those that moan about previous sackings.  Are people seriously suggesting if we were a bit more patient with Gullit, Souness and Roeder, we&#8217;d be any closer to success?  It&#8217;s the very fact that we were NOT patient with them that has kept us in the league.  The problem in the past hasn&#8217;t been sacking managers too early, but hiring managers with no track record of success, as well as hiring simpletons.  </p>
<p>Give Big Sam time, but the previous sackings were needed, not sure why the point is always brought up as if they weren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: &#124;maze&#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11687</link>
		<author>&#124;maze&#124;</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of you guys' points. And I'm very excited and optimistic towards the up-comiing season. I believe we have to be VERY patient with both SAM and the board, and I've been waiting for the right moment to say this, but say we finish 10th this year, and fans wants the manager out, and we sack him for that, well to be honest I'd be so ashamed that I probably won't be a toon fan anymore - ever again. Why?

Simply because we sack and sack and sack managers before even giving them a chance to prove, and then what?  We get another one, and another one etc etc. we sack, sack and sack... and complain... 

One guy wrote that it took Ferguson, what? 5-6 years to turn manure into a champion side. And then n'castle fans just sit there,whining their a**es of, "our manager is so crap, look at the top four" blah blah blah.

Now for once, take-off and f-ing fly for all I care, truely... be happy and optimistic.... but also be patient, very patient... All good things come to those who wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of you guys&#8217; points. And I&#8217;m very excited and optimistic towards the up-comiing season. I believe we have to be VERY patient with both SAM and the board, and I&#8217;ve been waiting for the right moment to say this, but say we finish 10th this year, and fans wants the manager out, and we sack him for that, well to be honest I&#8217;d be so ashamed that I probably won&#8217;t be a toon fan anymore - ever again. Why?</p>
<p>Simply because we sack and sack and sack managers before even giving them a chance to prove, and then what?  We get another one, and another one etc etc. we sack, sack and sack&#8230; and complain&#8230; </p>
<p>One guy wrote that it took Ferguson, what? 5-6 years to turn manure into a champion side. And then n&#8217;castle fans just sit there,whining their a**es of, &#8220;our manager is so crap, look at the top four&#8221; blah blah blah.</p>
<p>Now for once, take-off and f-ing fly for all I care, truely&#8230; be happy and optimistic&#8230;. but also be patient, very patient&#8230; All good things come to those who wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Yule</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11680</link>
		<author>Bob Yule</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We've got a new manager and a new owner, so there's no reason to feel pessimistic that the mistakes of the past are going to be repeated. In fact, so far, there's every sign of a more professional and patient approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve got a new manager and a new owner, so there&#8217;s no reason to feel pessimistic that the mistakes of the past are going to be repeated. In fact, so far, there&#8217;s every sign of a more professional and patient approach.</p>
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		<title>By: stevem</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11675</link>
		<author>stevem</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us stay calm - I agree that we need to pay 'over the odds' to get these players but until we are sucsessful and are playing at a higher level week in week out then that is what we must do I'm afraid to get these players here - at least now we have a guy with geniune financial clout behind him to help us do this and who seems 100% behind the manager, then yes let us have some hope for the future and now is perhaps the time our comatose giant of a club awakes begins sparring with the 'invicible top 4' and coming out on top.

It has happen some time - please sooner rather than later - we have all waited long enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us stay calm - I agree that we need to pay &#8216;over the odds&#8217; to get these players but until we are sucsessful and are playing at a higher level week in week out then that is what we must do I&#8217;m afraid to get these players here - at least now we have a guy with geniune financial clout behind him to help us do this and who seems 100% behind the manager, then yes let us have some hope for the future and now is perhaps the time our comatose giant of a club awakes begins sparring with the &#8216;invicible top 4&#8242; and coming out on top.</p>
<p>It has happen some time - please sooner rather than later - we have all waited long enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11664</link>
		<author>Phil</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ben, 

I'm not interested in Barcelona. I'm interested in Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool the only premiership clubs who can equal or better our potential both on and off the pitch. Our wage bill is £52million to their £80million and upwards. We're not in Europe and we don't have the dizzy lights of London to attract the top players so we have to pay a bit more. Are you seriously suggesting we should drop further behind these 4?

Since we're both toon supporters I don't want to argue with you mate but I think considering we have a new owner with £1 billion cash in his bank account then Chris Mort and Big Sam are doing a fantastic job of keeping the lid on the spending (a couple of million so far) and just getting us back to where we were post Robson. The young kids can come later for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ben, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in Barcelona. I&#8217;m interested in Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool the only premiership clubs who can equal or better our potential both on and off the pitch. Our wage bill is £52million to their £80million and upwards. We&#8217;re not in Europe and we don&#8217;t have the dizzy lights of London to attract the top players so we have to pay a bit more. Are you seriously suggesting we should drop further behind these 4?</p>
<p>Since we&#8217;re both toon supporters I don&#8217;t want to argue with you mate but I think considering we have a new owner with £1 billion cash in his bank account then Chris Mort and Big Sam are doing a fantastic job of keeping the lid on the spending (a couple of million so far) and just getting us back to where we were post Robson. The young kids can come later for me.</p>
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		<title>By: SHEARYADI</title>
		<link>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11660</link>
		<author>SHEARYADI</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/07/10/a-glass-half-full-of-pessimism/#comment-11660</guid>
		<description>Ben...this is the first time in the last couple months I read about "Pessimism" about Newcastle United progress into one of the top club in Europe.

Maybe you are having "Failure Paranoid Syndrome" or you are not "Genuine" Toon Army?

There's no way "Toon Army" would have such that pessimism because we are not that glory hunters like supporters, yet we need success and we deserve that, but to start a new season with pessimism is like we have been relegated before the season is even start to kick-off!

I think you must support whatever happened to the club, the managerial changes, and or even now the boards that have been totally refresh. I think, this is Optimism that you should write about, because the old boards of directors that probably equal to the word of pessimism now have been axed.

Arsenal investing heavily in their youth system? Give me a break! I see they have tried to lure our "release clause scandal" Obafemi Martins, and Wenger also busy looking for more French players to their squad. Have landed £7.5M Auxerre defender Bakari Sagna £8m, now they may try to get Fra Croatian striker Eduardo Da Silva, £2m Polish goalkeeper Lukasz Fabianski and £2m Norwegian defender Harvard Nordveit. Youth system you said? If you said like that because they are not spending much last season it's because they've very limited budget after the move to the Emirates Stadium.

Spurs and Everton has supplied their first team with the products from their youth system? We also DID that in the name of Steven Taylor. Have you ever heard or read about him ben?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben&#8230;this is the first time in the last couple months I read about &#8220;Pessimism&#8221; about Newcastle United progress into one of the top club in Europe.</p>
<p>Maybe you are having &#8220;Failure Paranoid Syndrome&#8221; or you are not &#8220;Genuine&#8221; Toon Army?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way &#8220;Toon Army&#8221; would have such that pessimism because we are not that glory hunters like supporters, yet we need success and we deserve that, but to start a new season with pessimism is like we have been relegated before the season is even start to kick-off!</p>
<p>I think you must support whatever happened to the club, the managerial changes, and or even now the boards that have been totally refresh. I think, this is Optimism that you should write about, because the old boards of directors that probably equal to the word of pessimism now have been axed.</p>
<p>Arsenal investing heavily in their youth system? Give me a break! I see they have tried to lure our &#8220;release clause scandal&#8221; Obafemi Martins, and Wenger also busy looking for more French players to their squad. Have landed £7.5M Auxerre defender Bakari Sagna £8m, now they may try to get Fra Croatian striker Eduardo Da Silva, £2m Polish goalkeeper Lukasz Fabianski and £2m Norwegian defender Harvard Nordveit. Youth system you said? If you said like that because they are not spending much last season it&#8217;s because they&#8217;ve very limited budget after the move to the Emirates Stadium.</p>
<p>Spurs and Everton has supplied their first team with the products from their youth system? We also DID that in the name of Steven Taylor. Have you ever heard or read about him ben?</p>
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