Comments on: Heavyweight Divison: Ashley v Shepherd Round Two http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/ Giving NUFC fans a voice Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:27:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: bonky http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9371 bonky Thu, 31 May 2007 20:01:48 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9371 as usual toon fans are getting carried away "winning the premiership in 3 yrs & champions league in 5" and who's said owt about 270 million. I,m not saying don't be optimistic cos i want the best for nufc just like any supporter, but we've heard nowt about what this ashley bloke is actually intending to do. For all i know he might be gonna turn st james' into the biggest dodgy sports shop in the world ! as usual toon fans are getting carried away “winning the premiership in 3 yrs & champions league in 5″ and who’s said owt about 270 million. I,m not saying don’t be optimistic cos i want the best for nufc just like any supporter, but we’ve heard nowt about what this ashley bloke is actually intending to do. For all i know he might be gonna turn st james’ into the biggest dodgy sports shop in the world !

]]> By: BIG PHIL http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9363 BIG PHIL Thu, 31 May 2007 16:33:00 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9363 Why the fuck are we letting Scoty P go and getting Bellamt the 2nd x2 (Barton) if Parker was a Gerodies we would love him fuck Barton go for Big Kev ~Nolan an a don't want to see that fat lazy smog in a toon top, 18 games a season no good get Darren Bent Big Sam, you know it makes sense. Why the fuck are we letting Scoty P go and getting Bellamt the 2nd x2 (Barton) if Parker was a Gerodies we would love him fuck Barton go for Big Kev ~Nolan an a don’t want to see that fat lazy smog in a toon top, 18 games a season no good get Darren Bent Big Sam, you know it makes sense.

]]> By: ChezGiven http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9322 ChezGiven Wed, 30 May 2007 12:45:01 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9322 For those who have seen the snippet from the Sun today about the potential backing for Shepherd to mount a counter-offer, just remember that this 'news' will help Shepherd extract maximum value from his shareholding. I don't believe Shepherd intends to block this deal completely as this would, as i said in the original article, make his position untenable with the fans. His stock rose slightly after the appointment of Allardyce but blocking this would cause irreparable damage to his standing in Newcastle. Like any man with an investment to protect, Shepherd will look to gain what he can from this. For those who have seen the snippet from the Sun today about the potential backing for Shepherd to mount a counter-offer, just remember that this ‘news’ will help Shepherd extract maximum value from his shareholding.

I don’t believe Shepherd intends to block this deal completely as this would, as i said in the original article, make his position untenable with the fans. His stock rose slightly after the appointment of Allardyce but blocking this would cause irreparable damage to his standing in Newcastle. Like any man with an investment to protect, Shepherd will look to gain what he can from this.

]]> By: Kiwi Trev http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9303 Kiwi Trev Tue, 29 May 2007 21:13:39 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9303 There is very little serious doubt that in the long run FFS will acquiesce to an offer made by MA, the only problem we may have is if FFS decides, as most businessmen would, to hold out for a better/best offer. The drawback of this is he effectively holds the club to ransom in denying MA the opportunity to put his financial support plans into operation in time for the 2007/8 season, we miss out on targetted players and the whole club advancement is delayed by at least 12 months. FFS claims to be a fan! (supporter maybe) but don't lose sight of the fact he is a businessman first (albeit maybe not a hugely successful one) and he will value the cash first, look at his annual take from the club I hope that MA can get the 50%+1 vote he would need to restructure the board and sideline those who are anti his plans, as the saying goes "this train is heading north, if you are not with us get off now because once we start rolling you will be thrown off at speed" Come on Fred, you had ten years and it was a rollercoaster, give the new guy the chance to take us into "broad sunlit uplands" (thanx Winston!) Trev There is very little serious doubt that in the long run FFS will acquiesce to an offer made by MA, the only problem we may have is if FFS decides, as most businessmen would, to hold out for a better/best offer.

The drawback of this is he effectively holds the club to ransom in denying MA the opportunity to put his financial support plans into operation in time for the 2007/8 season, we miss out on targetted players and the whole club advancement is delayed by at least 12 months.

FFS claims to be a fan! (supporter maybe) but don’t lose sight of the fact he is a businessman first (albeit maybe not a hugely successful one) and he will value the cash first, look at his annual take from the club

I hope that MA can get the 50%+1 vote he would need to restructure the board and sideline those who are anti his plans, as the saying goes “this train is heading north, if you are not with us get off now because once we start rolling you will be thrown off at speed”

Come on Fred, you had ten years and it was a rollercoaster, give the new guy the chance to take us into “broad sunlit uplands” (thanx Winston!)

Trev

]]> By: Matthew http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9299 Matthew Tue, 29 May 2007 20:13:33 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9299 I hope the takeover goes through, and does so quickly, so as to not impede the new manager further in the transfer market. Alleged Toon targert Bale has already gone to Spurs while another alleged target, Jagielka, seems destined for Everton. Well Fed Fred (in my opinion) has only ever had the intention of looking after his own ego and warped opinions of himself and the club. My worry is that Fat Fred will see this as his last stand and make things very difficult for Mr Ashley, not through his love of the club but because he enjoys massaging his odd and inflated ego with all the power he can aquire. Mr Ashley will actually make us one of the top 8 clubs in the world with his money and vision for the club, (I too have heard tell of a plan for being prem winners in 3 years, and champs league winners in 5 as well as a £270M transfer budget) instead of people roaring with laughter when that baffoon Shephered says we actually are in the top 8. Surely even Shephered must realise that if he screws this he will become the least popular person ever in the history of Newcastle United by some distance. I hope the takeover goes through, and does so quickly, so as to not impede the new manager further in the transfer market. Alleged Toon targert Bale has already gone to Spurs while another alleged target, Jagielka, seems destined for Everton.

Well Fed Fred (in my opinion) has only ever had the intention of looking after his own ego and warped opinions of himself and the club.

My worry is that Fat Fred will see this as his last stand and make things very difficult for Mr Ashley, not through his love of the club but because he enjoys massaging his odd and inflated ego with all the power he can aquire.

Mr Ashley will actually make us one of the top 8 clubs in the world with his money and vision for the club, (I too have heard tell of a plan for being prem winners in 3 years, and champs league winners in 5 as well as a £270M transfer budget) instead of people roaring with laughter when that baffoon Shephered says we actually are in the top 8.

Surely even Shephered must realise that if he screws this he will become the least popular person ever in the history of Newcastle United by some distance.

]]> By: Jake http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9298 Jake Tue, 29 May 2007 19:29:03 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9298 Excellent article as ever NO. I hope FS sells up because the last thing we need at the moment is a boardroom war upsetting Allardyce's plans to overturn this shambles of a club. What is the general consensus on NO btw? I think there is a twist or 2 still to come and can't see FS letting go without a fight. NB love the spell checker. Excellent article as ever NO. I hope FS sells up because the last thing we need at the moment is a boardroom war upsetting Allardyce’s plans to overturn this shambles of a club. What is the general consensus on NO btw? I think there is a twist or 2 still to come and can’t see FS letting go without a fight.

NB love the spell checker.

]]> By: Ian Wright http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9297 Ian Wright Tue, 29 May 2007 19:06:34 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9297 Does it really matter? Fad Fred has taken his dosh in bucket loads. Ashley is not entering this deal for philanthropic reasons, he sees a company ripe for exploitation. They're both rabid capitalists with only one aim: Money! Declare the Toon a fans state and man the barricades! To a socialist Toon comrades. Ian Does it really matter? Fad Fred has taken his dosh in bucket loads. Ashley is not entering this deal for philanthropic reasons, he sees a company ripe for exploitation. They’re both rabid capitalists with only one aim: Money! Declare the Toon a fans state and man the barricades! To a socialist Toon comrades.
Ian

]]> By: Colin http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9295 Colin Tue, 29 May 2007 17:35:36 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9295 I am quite sure that Freddie will do the honorable thing and sell his shares. He is too smart to pick a fight he cannot win. It is only natural that he wants a meeting to discuss the future plans of the potential new owners and then to negotiate the best exit package he can get. We would all do the same. But at the end of the day he will know that there is no option but to go. Ashley would not have bought his 41.6% if the articles of the company prevented him taking control with 50% plus one share. I am sure its a done deal now and just a question of sorting out the detail and going through the legal formalities. I am quite sure that Freddie will do the honorable thing and sell his shares. He is too smart to pick a fight he cannot win.

It is only natural that he wants a meeting to discuss the future plans of the potential new owners and then to negotiate the best exit package he can get. We would all do the same. But at the end of the day he will know that there is no option but to go. Ashley would not have bought his 41.6% if the articles of the company prevented him taking control with 50% plus one share.

I am sure its a done deal now and just a question of sorting out the detail and going through the legal formalities.

]]> By: SteveB http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9284 SteveB Tue, 29 May 2007 11:12:09 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9284 Freddie has to sell up ASAP to save face and allow the New Newcastle United to evolve. The sooner this is done the better as it will allow Big Sam to know his transfer kitty in order to strengthen immediately. I honestly believe Freddie does have the club at heart and this is the perfect opportunity for him to prove it. The buzz, excitement and hope Mr Ashley has given us during this past week is incredible. The belief and expectation has returned to our great fans and the thoughts of silverware has now become a reality. Freddie will NEVER ever be allowed to visit SJP again should he attempt to stifle all our hopes Freddie has to sell up ASAP to save face and allow the New Newcastle United to evolve. The sooner this is done the better as it will allow Big Sam to know his transfer kitty in order to strengthen immediately. I honestly believe Freddie does have the club at heart and this is the perfect opportunity for him to prove it. The buzz, excitement and hope Mr Ashley has given us during this past week is incredible. The belief and expectation has returned to our great fans and the thoughts of silverware has now become a reality. Freddie will NEVER ever be allowed to visit SJP again should he attempt to stifle all our hopes

]]> By: North http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9281 North Tue, 29 May 2007 10:18:34 +0000 http://www.newcastle-online.com/2007/05/29/heavyweight-divisonashley-v-shepherd-round-two/#comment-9281 I know Shepherd has pumped in a lot of cash over the years but he's made some howlers. He's always said he had the clubs best interests at heart. The best thing for Newcastle is for him to move on. He's paid his money and anyone on Tyneside would agree he's had his chance, so come on Freddie, time to move over and let Newcastle take their place among the big boys. Don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out! I know Shepherd has pumped in a lot of cash over the years but he’s made some howlers. He’s always said he had the clubs best interests at heart. The best thing for Newcastle is for him to move on. He’s paid his money and anyone on Tyneside would agree he’s had his chance, so come on Freddie, time to move over and let Newcastle take their place among the big boys. Don’t let the doorknob hit you on the way out!

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